Here’s how the Chevy Astro/GMC Safari twins became known as “Mid-i-vans”

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  • čas přidán 6. 10. 2023
  • In this episode I provide the history of the Chevrolet Astro and its GMC twin, the Safari. Both vans were GM's quick response to the success of Chrysler's minivans that debuted in 1983. The 1985 Astro and Safari differed from Chrysler in that GM's vans were rear-wheel-drive and based on a truck chassis, making them taller, and able to tow and carry more cargo. However the Astro/Safari never became seriously competitive with Chrysler, leading GM to introduce their dustbuster minivan trio in 1990. The Astro and Safari stayed true to form for their second generation in 1996, still very square and only one sliding door, and although they had many loyal fans, they weren't enough for GM to continue production after 2005. However there are still some out there who wish GM would bring them back someday.

Komentáře • 347

  • @curtiscf1986
    @curtiscf1986 Před 9 měsíci +15

    These vans were tougher than a bucket of nails. Probably one of the best vehicles General Motors ever made.

  • @2coolwheels139
    @2coolwheels139 Před 10 měsíci +25

    I'm driving a 98 with over 200K miles on it. I bought it 10 years ago for $100! Best $100 I ever spent!

    • @johnmaki3046
      @johnmaki3046 Před 8 měsíci +1

      I believe this!

    • @Lilmiket1000
      @Lilmiket1000 Před 22 dny

      omg 100! Amazing! I been trying to get one for less than 3000 with less than 300k miles on it lol.

  • @colbywalsh4610
    @colbywalsh4610 Před 10 měsíci +66

    I am the proud and happy owner of a 2005 Chevrolet Astro L S passenger all wheel drive with about 250,000 miles. As far as I know, it is all original. Original engine and transmission and everything. The 03 to 05 was the best😊

    • @lawnmowerdude
      @lawnmowerdude Před 10 měsíci +1

      Have you changed the intake manifold gaskets yet?

    • @patrickmcgoldrick8234
      @patrickmcgoldrick8234 Před 10 měsíci +8

      The 4.3s are a really good engines,as long as the coolant is changed and the intake is tightened as routine service as well as oil changes with filter and the transmissions seem to hold up well if taken care of.overall a pretty decent little van

    • @colbywalsh4610
      @colbywalsh4610 Před 10 měsíci +3

      @@lawnmowerdude it was a school van before I purchased it. Service record show that was done at around 217,000 miles or so. I am currently at just under 246,000.

    • @aaronburratwood.6957
      @aaronburratwood.6957 Před 9 měsíci +1

      I have an ‘04 with 212,k mikes now and counting and I drove it to Philadelphia to visits some friends and I urban camped in it for a few days. It was quite a scene

  • @davinp
    @davinp Před 10 měsíci +138

    Since GM & Ford both left the minivan market in 2009, that left Chrsyler the only American automaker to offer a minivan

    • @Rascofresco11
      @Rascofresco11 Před 10 měsíci +29

      I think it's quite ironic that Chrysler introduced the minivan concept and when the chips fall they're the last(American) standing.

    • @SayAhh
      @SayAhh Před 10 měsíci +7

      Was the Mazda MPV ever considered a domestic product?

    • @CarringtonHollister
      @CarringtonHollister Před 10 měsíci +25

      Ford still has a minivan technically (Transit Connect)

    • @FiregemGaming
      @FiregemGaming Před 10 měsíci +29

      And now it’s quite literally the only car in Chryslers line up, they are killing the 300 this year.

    • @carexpertandy
      @carexpertandy Před 10 měsíci +16

      @@SayAhhNot when Mazda is a Japanese company.

  • @rtcturnemup7028
    @rtcturnemup7028 Před 10 měsíci +30

    I remember simple times when suvs were rare and mini vans were exactly how suvs are today. Cars, minivans, and wagons ❤

    • @MrOiram46
      @MrOiram46 Před 10 měsíci +3

      in those times, SUVs were just trucks with shorter beds that came with rear seats and a removable top

    • @rtcturnemup7028
      @rtcturnemup7028 Před 10 měsíci +4

      @@MrOiram46 most suvs I remember were 2 door mostly just like the trucks. Only a few super long suvs with the main one obviously being the suburban

  • @edwardaustin740
    @edwardaustin740 Před 10 měsíci +42

    I had an 87 Safari. Took the seats out and went camping in it every weekend for years. Great vehicle.

  • @davidking3311
    @davidking3311 Před 10 měsíci +7

    I worked at the Baltimore assembly plant making these in the early 1990s there was a whole lotta drinking going on to get these beauties manufactured

  • @carexpertandy
    @carexpertandy Před 10 měsíci +9

    The most manly minivan built!

  • @agy234
    @agy234 Před 10 měsíci +17

    I still see Chevy astros driving around as work vans

    • @Shuckey5
      @Shuckey5 Před 27 dny

      I just bought one $500 run amazing 140,000

  • @averyparticularsetofskills
    @averyparticularsetofskills Před 10 měsíci +20

    To this day I'd LOVE an Astro/Safari AWD high top conversion!

  • @Mr19thcenturyman
    @Mr19thcenturyman Před 9 měsíci +13

    I've had a Safari passenger model and currently have a Safari cargo version. AWD and anti-lock brakes. The boxy design is what makes them perfect for cargo , boxes or bicycles.

  • @joshriles84
    @joshriles84 Před 10 měsíci +11

    They're still so popular the prices are higher than any other older minivan

  • @Lon1001
    @Lon1001 Před 10 měsíci +54

    Drove an awd one from the late 90s often for work, to pick up customers and drive people around and the 4WD was awesome in them, they went everywhere in all weather. 18 inches of snow was barely a problem even on some pretty steep grades, and the rear bias made them fun to powerslide when it was slippery out.

  • @Henry_Jones
    @Henry_Jones Před 10 měsíci +8

    The chevy Corvair Greenbrier deseves a shoutout as it pre-dated the Astro by 20 years to compete with the vw bus!

  • @19chucki74
    @19chucki74 Před 10 měsíci +22

    I'd been looking for an Astro cargo van for a while, and almost bought one, if it hadn't been so roughed up on the inside. I still want an Astro though. Great vans.

  • @RIVERSIDEREVIEWS
    @RIVERSIDEREVIEWS Před 9 měsíci +7

    Literally LIVED in a one of these for 2-3yrs. It was a 1980s era class-B+ allegro camper conversion with the V6. Thing ran strong with zero issues. Uncle had a standard van version. Basically, the S-10 of mini-vans. Good times and shame theres nothing on the market like it today.

  • @aaronburratwood.6957
    @aaronburratwood.6957 Před 9 měsíci +7

    I have an ‘04 Astro for work. I paid $900 for it with 167,k. It was in great shape but had an electrical problem. I fixed that, put some wheels from a ‘22 GMC Sierra on it & it’s still a great van with over 220,k miles on it now.

  • @georgemartin1436
    @georgemartin1436 Před 10 měsíci +6

    Drove the Safari and the Astro, and they were awesome.

  • @daveunknown01
    @daveunknown01 Před 10 měsíci +15

    The Astro name was also used for one of GMCs Cabover Semi trucks.

  • @citizenblue
    @citizenblue Před 10 měsíci +5

    I have one of these and still love it

  • @RobsNeighbor
    @RobsNeighbor Před 10 měsíci +7

    I was born in 1980, these were all I saw! Then worked on then drove. Great Video!

  • @aliendeer1294
    @aliendeer1294 Před 10 měsíci +4

    Wow the memories....I remember being enthralled by that jingle as a little kid..."Chevy, CHEVY, Astro, ASTRO!"

  • @rickc6028
    @rickc6028 Před 10 měsíci +9

    Best minivan ever!!! 😍

  • @XqeDiosxqe
    @XqeDiosxqe Před 10 měsíci +13

    One of the best mini vans out there.

  • @indee105
    @indee105 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I used to have an Astro with the Vortec V6. Thing made it to 310,000 miles before I sold it, only ever did basic maintenance. Before I moved I would still see it being driven around by the new owner from time to time. Was an amazing machine.

  • @nesianhoney94
    @nesianhoney94 Před 9 měsíci +1

    This is the most classic bangin' little Chevy van! I swoon when I see a well kept Astro.

  • @Minivan_Operator
    @Minivan_Operator Před 10 měsíci +6

    CHEVY! CHEVY! ASTRO! ASTRO! DAMN YOU! DAMN YOU! 😂

    • @xraider927
      @xraider927 Před 10 měsíci +1

      🤣🤣🤣 even at the end of the video

  • @FriedOkraPickles
    @FriedOkraPickles Před 9 měsíci +2

    0:50 🚨Dad Joke Detected 🚨 "Dedicated Van Base"😂😂🤣

  • @TheHelado36
    @TheHelado36 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Loved the sharp crease in the middle of the front fascia !

  • @sergeipohkerova7211
    @sergeipohkerova7211 Před 10 měsíci +27

    The Caravan and Transsport always struck me more as the mom car and the Astro was more likely to be a dad.

  • @dave900575
    @dave900575 Před 10 měsíci +4

    We rented an Astro for a mother's day roadtrip. I recall it was a very nice vehicle.

  • @DarknessViper99
    @DarknessViper99 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Man I was getting mad nostalgic for these lately, the epitome of 2000s family transport in Santa Ana

  • @James-sir
    @James-sir Před 10 měsíci +8

    I always wanted a Astro Van because when you saw them lowered with actual nice wheels they looked so good I might have to buy one and fulfill that teenage me dream minivan

  • @joshriles84
    @joshriles84 Před 10 měsíci +7

    1995 is a special year....1996 front end with 1994 interior

  • @Danthehistoryman
    @Danthehistoryman Před 10 měsíci +6

    It's amazing GM hasnt changed the look of those commercial vans in decades, they've made their money on those. The ASTRO was neat, nothing really like it these days.

  • @tenczaandfriends
    @tenczaandfriends Před měsícem

    I currently got a 1990 Chevy Astro 4.3L V6 RWD Cargo with 290k and I love it, I lived in it and now I live with it. It's so juiced for just a Van. It's got some quirks but it still starts up and drives every time.

  • @padroooo
    @padroooo Před 10 měsíci +8

    I see you are headed for 100,000 subscribers Pat. Keep up the good work.

    • @DUNEATV
      @DUNEATV Před 10 měsíci

      Hey deserves it and much more!

  • @billdursa4976
    @billdursa4976 Před 10 měsíci +6

    I had an Astro and a Safari. They were both great and trouble free.

  • @jmc6000
    @jmc6000 Před 10 měsíci +8

    Just for FYI, the 1984 Sheepdog van at the end of this episode was actually based on a Ford Econoline van.

    • @MyOldCar
      @MyOldCar  Před 10 měsíci +16

      Yes I know that wasn't a GM van, I just loved that scene and figured I could borrow it here

    • @rushnerd
      @rushnerd Před 10 měsíci +3

      @@MyOldCar CHEVY CHEVY ASTRO ASTRO
      What you have you done to me

  • @brandbryce
    @brandbryce Před 10 měsíci +1

    loved this episode

  • @ThatPatriot
    @ThatPatriot Před 10 měsíci +2

    I wish they still made it, perfect work van

  • @highwayman1218
    @highwayman1218 Před 10 měsíci +16

    Great vans and wrenched on them alot as a mechanic through their runs. The 4x were more wotk, but solid platforms. Unfortunately alot of buyers didnt understand what made them great was the truck inspired bones and complaints from soccer mom type buyers....

  • @AN-cw6yg
    @AN-cw6yg Před 9 měsíci +1

    We had an 89' Astro in Maroon then a 99' Astro in Green. Those were the days.

  • @robertcamble3543
    @robertcamble3543 Před 9 měsíci +2

    These vans are among the most reliable vehicles ever made . They still popular on the road after so many years .

  • @timothydurkan
    @timothydurkan Před 9 měsíci

    I wanted an Astro van bad in the mid 90s. Another great video!

  • @jeremyanderson1139
    @jeremyanderson1139 Před 10 měsíci +20

    The Astro and Safari were more so aimed at commercial buyers than at families. The M-Body platform that these vans was actually different from the Chevrolet S-10 platform

    • @sharedknowledge6640
      @sharedknowledge6640 Před 10 měsíci +4

      The bad news is even the S10 was basically bean counter cost reduced junk. So the M body was doomed to be even worse in most ways. These were mostly the dark years for GM.

  • @heffedirte6243
    @heffedirte6243 Před 10 měsíci +4

    I would love to have another one. I had an 87 lowrider on Daytons and a 94 with a 350 conversion and cragar SS

    • @bobhill3941
      @bobhill3941 Před 10 měsíci

      That's awesome! I've always loved Crager SS mags! I watched a show where some guys took a second gen Safari AWD like we had and turbo'd it as a what if like the Syclone and Typhoon.

  • @danhenson7366
    @danhenson7366 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Best mini van ever produced

  • @ryurc3033
    @ryurc3033 Před 9 měsíci +4

    The transfer case / front differential of the AWD models has been known to withstand 800hp launching with drag radials. With only upgrades to the cv axles. Still a sought after setup for street racing

    • @ryurc3033
      @ryurc3033 Před 9 měsíci +1

      AWD Astro van with a gen4 5.3 and one of them Chinese whistling hair dryers would make a hugely awesome sleeper

  • @nurseelliott4256
    @nurseelliott4256 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Hey I dig those little vans. I wouldn’t mind have a conversion one today.

  • @CarlosGuzman-bq8fr
    @CarlosGuzman-bq8fr Před 10 měsíci

    Loved ❤ it. Thanks so much.

  • @lobolj53
    @lobolj53 Před 9 měsíci +1

    We still have our 2000 Astro awd that was bought in 2001. 320,000 miles and still going.

  • @pbmc_
    @pbmc_ Před 9 měsíci

    I saw the thumbnail and had to watch. We had the same color one as in thumbnail. I waked up at 4:30 every morning in high school
    and delivered newspapers by throwing them out the windows of the ASTRO.
    Such great memories with this awesome vehicle.

  • @DUNEATV
    @DUNEATV Před 10 měsíci +1

    Great video…as usual! 🍻

  • @charlie_nolan
    @charlie_nolan Před 10 měsíci +3

    I still see the cargo/work versions of the Astro everywhere, must be because of the 4.3 V6 or the Iron Duke

  • @grunkohlaktionar7474
    @grunkohlaktionar7474 Před 10 měsíci +6

    Please do an episode on the Mitsubishi Diamante

    • @42luke93
      @42luke93 Před 10 měsíci

      What’s that? Never heard of it

    • @xraider927
      @xraider927 Před 10 měsíci +1

      ​@@42luke93it's a full size sedan larger than the Galant

  • @TheJaymon1962
    @TheJaymon1962 Před 10 měsíci

    Thanks for this!

  • @EDT123
    @EDT123 Před 10 měsíci +1

    You keep it up man good job very informative citipointe I love it

  • @dalesmth1
    @dalesmth1 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Former Astro owner here.
    The V8 swap greatly improved this vehicle’s shortcomings.

    • @nicklikesradio
      @nicklikesradio Před 9 měsíci

      5.3 or?

    • @dalesmth1
      @dalesmth1 Před 9 měsíci

      @@nicklikesradio
      5.7 vortec.
      This was three years before LS variants.

  • @joellamoureux7914
    @joellamoureux7914 Před 10 měsíci

    Here in georgia usa, i fairly frequently see these on the road. I always liked them.

  • @SeymourBalz
    @SeymourBalz Před 10 měsíci +1

    I have a 97 Astro.
    206k miles. Runs and drives fine. About 21mpg.

  • @albear972
    @albear972 Před 10 měsíci +2

    *♫ ♪ ♪ ♪ Chevy, Chevy! Astro, Astro! ♫ ♪ ♪ ♪*

  • @donalddday7741
    @donalddday7741 Před 10 měsíci +3

    it was the only mini that looked like a real an and was and still is popular with vanners

  • @Raatokalle
    @Raatokalle Před 10 měsíci +1

    had a good laugh at the end. Should have seen that coming.

  • @Brian-li5up
    @Brian-li5up Před 10 měsíci +1

    Great ending!

  • @ghoffmann821
    @ghoffmann821 Před 10 měsíci +9

    I learned to drive in an '86 manual Astro. By age 14, I was a grizzled stress veteran with a 100,000 mile stare.

  • @carlbuschman
    @carlbuschman Před 10 měsíci +2

    I drove an Astro van as a Courtesy for Riley Chevrolet for customers, the Astro was a really good choice.

  • @Rascofresco11
    @Rascofresco11 Před 10 měsíci +25

    An Astro comeback would definitely work as an EV for GMs portfolio. Possibly out sell the traverse 7:1

  • @danhenson7366
    @danhenson7366 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Using the truck plan is why they were the best.... im currently looking for a 2005 awd

  • @davinp
    @davinp Před 10 měsíci +16

    Currently GM only wants to offer big expensive gas-guzzling SUVs so that they can make more profit. Also, Ford. They care more making higher profits instead of making affordable, fuel-efficient and reliable family cars and minivans

    • @piggy310
      @piggy310 Před měsícem

      They build what the market wants, stop being such a little tyrant.

    • @piggy310
      @piggy310 Před měsícem

      Tell your hero Joe biden to sell his gas guzzling V8

  • @JSFGuy
    @JSFGuy Před 10 měsíci +3

    We've been waiting for this.

  • @bk_goatkim679
    @bk_goatkim679 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Astro-Astro! These cans were so unreliable! Love it!!!

  • @mr_beezlebub3985
    @mr_beezlebub3985 Před 9 měsíci +1

    It'd be so cool if the Astro made a comeback as a hybrid minivan.

  • @jimbo5728
    @jimbo5728 Před 10 měsíci

    💀💀💀💀💀 Wanna hear the most annoyong sound? You caught me way off guard. 😂😂 Love this channel!!

  • @hrayrstanboulian5270
    @hrayrstanboulian5270 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I used to own 1990 buick century i had custom dual exhaust on it from same generation grandprix but now rarely seen one for years still. Road worthy

  • @Henry_Jones
    @Henry_Jones Před 10 měsíci +1

    At last! Thank you!

  • @evanscott7578
    @evanscott7578 Před 9 měsíci +2

    GM actually had a prototype for a minivan before Chrysler, called the Nomad II. If you look it up, it looked very similar to what Chrysler came out with. Another GM van fact is they had a trim package for their full size Chevy G vans called Caravan well before Dodge used that name.

  • @jelanimclean6326
    @jelanimclean6326 Před 10 měsíci +5

    The Heartbeat Of America. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

  • @icillay
    @icillay Před 10 měsíci +3

    If you think that the Chevy Astro theme is annoying, then playing the Ford Aerostar song (an adaptation of Age of Aquarius from the musical Hair) would most certainly be a violation of the Geneva Conventions.

  • @4BillC
    @4BillC Před 10 měsíci +3

    Take the 4.3 V6 AWD and turbo it. It'd be like Syclone van! I'd drive it!

  • @melvinmcfly4498
    @melvinmcfly4498 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I’d love to see a video about the Lincoln ls, very under appreciated cars imo.

  • @jsembler1
    @jsembler1 Před 10 měsíci

    Nice touch on dubbing in the Astro jingle with Dumb and Dumber.

  • @JohnnyN-ml3te
    @JohnnyN-ml3te Před měsícem

    I had a 2001 Astro hi top conversion that I bought in 2014 with 125k. In 7 years I put 90k on it and the only thing the engine ever needed was a distributor cap but I gave it plugs and wires too. Of course I did an alternator, water pump, power steering but that's any vehicle. I think it was the most dependable vehicle I ever owned, and I'm a Ford van guy! My Astro still ran great when I sold it with 216k I kinda miss it

  • @Kvietosh
    @Kvietosh Před 10 měsíci +1

    Great video as always

    • @JSFGuy
      @JSFGuy Před 10 měsíci +2

      Really? It's been out for what about 1 minute and it's great? You have to watch it first you know?

    • @doug6191
      @doug6191 Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@JSFGuy'Cuz he has to be the FiRsT

    • @Kvietosh
      @Kvietosh Před 10 měsíci

      @@JSFGuy and how do you know that I haven't seen the video already?

    • @JSFGuy
      @JSFGuy Před 10 měsíci +3

      @@Kvietosh seriously? Because you commented one minute into it and I commented 2 minutes into it that's how. Look at the timestamps pretty easy to figure out.

  • @dsihacker01
    @dsihacker01 Před 9 měsíci

    These astros are great damn vans, got a few right now myself, 2 2000s, and a 99. One of the 2000s is a teal awd, with a now blown motor, which thankfully, is easily swapable to a 5.3l v8. I also want rwd and Awd or 4x4, so thats being swapped out. Originally looked into doing similar to another van of mine, and it was going to be a lot of work, however, I was very happy to see that its very easy, and chevy literally makes all the parts. Most I may need is driveline. Engine literally falls out

  • @PrydeWater901
    @PrydeWater901 Před 10 měsíci +1

    What an ending!!

  • @chosenone101
    @chosenone101 Před 6 měsíci +1

    The Astro name was used the 80s production of the GM/Chevy heavy truck cabover division...the GMC Astro and Chevy Titan. They stopped production in 1987 and formed White/GMC

  • @johnmaki3046
    @johnmaki3046 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I owned an '87 Chevy Astro (2.5 4 cyl.) cargo van and a '90 G.M.C. Safari Waldoch conversion in '09! They were both "okay", but the MoPars were MUCH BETTER in EVERY CATAGORY!

  • @CSmith-gb1sl
    @CSmith-gb1sl Před 9 měsíci

    I had a couple of Dustbuster U Bodies, the '02 Astro I rented once had a softer quieter ride but higher from the full frame.

  • @maddoxboyd6584
    @maddoxboyd6584 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Astro is amazing

  • @jasonz7788
    @jasonz7788 Před 10 měsíci

    Cool thanks 👍👍

  • @furiouhuzzah
    @furiouhuzzah Před měsícem

    Even as a kid I always thought they were the coolest vehicles. I was a teen in the early 2000's during the SUV boom, so to fit in I got a Grand Cherokee. I wish I would've gotten an Astro, probably would have had a lot fun with it.

  • @fgeiger41
    @fgeiger41 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Great video. You forgot that the AstroO was HUGELY popular in japan and inspired a while segment of vehicles that even Kia started emulating like the Soul.

    • @MyOldCar
      @MyOldCar  Před 9 měsíci +3

      Actually I did mentiion its popularity in Japan near the end.

    • @fgeiger41
      @fgeiger41 Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@MyOldCar oh wow. Gives me an excuse to watch again. 😁 I was waiting on it but was also multitasking at the same time.
      Thanks 😊

  • @tonybrown6775
    @tonybrown6775 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I drove a shorty GMC Safari one of the first Buick Pontiac dealership parts runner van. The Southside of Indianapolis I worked for

  • @idajane1974
    @idajane1974 Před 9 měsíci +1

    If they made one of those new today I would buy one

  • @googleuser3760
    @googleuser3760 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Excellent work. 👏👌

  • @pemulis_dmz6796
    @pemulis_dmz6796 Před 10 měsíci

    Those Chevy commercials were awesome haha

  • @marviveedee7198
    @marviveedee7198 Před 22 dny

    Definitely a cool van

  • @jean-phillipegagnon2120
    @jean-phillipegagnon2120 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I owned one used it for work beast 👌

  • @anthonyrivera4735
    @anthonyrivera4735 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Please do a video on the Ford Explorer sport trac pickup

    • @JSFGuy
      @JSFGuy Před 10 měsíci

      Keep asking and see what happens.