DIY Hoist System (Rooftop Tents, Kayaks, Jeep Tops, Ladders, etc.)
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- čas přidán 25. 06. 2024
- Welcome back to the Gator Overland channel. It's time to get your recreational or household equipment stored up and out of the way. In today's episode I explain how to create your own hoist storage system. I designed my system for 200 lbs, but can be capable of nearly 400 lbs by upgrading a single pulley (as explained in the video). Feel free to contact me via social media or email should you have any questions about your build.
**DISCLAIMER : PLEASE WORK SAFE AND AT YOUR OWN RISK**
Video Timeline
Intro- 0:00
Opening- 1:03
Tools- 2:07
Materials- 4:09
Locating the Hoist System- 6:33
Threshold Height Confirmation- 7:07
Stud Finding 101- 8:14
Hoist Terminology- 9:39
Ceiling Brace- 10:09
Pulley Junction Block- 11:16
Load Bridle- 11:51
Load Boards- 12:45
Direction Pulley & Winch- 14:27
Explaining Mechanical Advantage- 15:53
Load Board Disassembly- 21:23
Rooftop Tent Prep- 22:49
Fastening Load Boards- 25:33
Connect Hoist- 26:12
Raise The "ROOF"Nest- 26:38
Connect Safety Chain- 27:20
Closing- 27:53
Dropbox link for construction info and reference photos:
www.dropbox.com/sh/vz6r165mo8...
DIY hoist consolidated materials list (including amazon affiliated links)
(2-3ea.) 36”x1 1/2” perforated square tubing amzn.to/3yoPDv7
(3) 2x6x8ft boards (hardware store or lumber yard)
(12) 3/8”x3” long lag bolts (to ceiling joists) amzn.to/3fzoixs
(2-3) 3/8”x2” long lag bolts (winch to wall stud) amzn.to/3fuGNU3
(9) 3/8”x4” long eye bolts and nut amzn.to/34bWwlL
(33) 3/8” washers get 10 extra just in case amzn.to/3eZqBLd
(8) 1/4”x 1 1/2” long lag bolts (pulleys to load boards) amzn.to/3f33Lm2
(12) 1/4 x 1” long lag bolts (pulleys to junction block) amzn.to/3wgFb6Y
(1) 5/16” 2-3” lag eye bolt (mounted to wall stud near ceiling for winch hook) amzn.to/3v6WLdE
(5) 420# cap. swivel 3/8” rope pulleys amzn.to/3v2lmAb
(8-9*) 100# cap. Stationary 3/8” rope pulleys *you may increase the capacity of the direction pulley to winch for 200lbs+ loads (400lb max load, unless you increase pulley capacity on load boards, be safe) amzn.to/2QySbWv
(1) 5/16” quick link amzn.to/3ow6Wpk
(4) 160# spring clips amzn.to/2Scjo1p
(8) 130# spring clips amzn.to/3whngx0
(50ft+) 3/8” diamond braid poly rope 100lbs+ cap. amzn.to/3hAwtfT
(8ft+) 200lb+ cap. Safety chain (swing set chain) (check hardware stores)
(4) ubolt 5/16” wire rope clips (use at bridle for adjusting load board levelness) amzn.to/3tZlyPf
(4) 1/4”-3/8” rope clamps (use for loop end attached to ceiling brace 160# spring clips) amzn.to/3wdjpku
(1) winch (worm gear, trailer, electric, etc.) (check harbor freight)
(1) *optional* winch offset bracket for using trailer winch on the wall. amzn.to/3f6Sgdz
Contact Info:
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I don’t generally leave comments on videos that I’ve watched, but this one definitely deserved some kudos. Not only is the video incredibly well, documented and informative, but when I reached out to John with a question, he offered to provide me his contact information if I had follow-up questions. I’m sure he’s busy like everyone else in life, but he really took time to answer my questions thoroughly and even provided some other suggestions for the storage to be used as a table when it comes down. John is one of those rare people that goes out of his way to help others that he has never met. I very much appreciate not only the video, but also his assistance afterwards. Thanks John!
And this is why I take the time 👆🏻… thanks for the kind words, always happy to help.
As others have said, this is an amazingly well made and explained video. No one else has ventured into the options of mechanical advantage. Kudos and thank you for sharing.
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment… Anybody can make a video utilizing pulleys and rope… But I wanted folks to understand why and how before they elevate expensive materials or equipment without regard… Plus it’s a really cool learning experience..
If you have any questions, please feel free to reach out via email at JKHARTEL3@gmail.com and I will send over construction information and viewer Bill photos for reference… I’ve helped folks all over the world with their builds and have come across some really interesting scenarios, but ultimately all works out in the end.
Amazing video. Well done. You explained a complex topic in a simple and easily digestible way. You’ve inspired me to build one for my camper shell.
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment… It did take a little bit of planning to get the explanation as simple as possible for something so complex.. if you have any questions with your construction, feel free to reach out jkhartel3@gmail.com
You have no idea how long ive been looking for this video. I need to build one to hoist my kayak in a single garage with a 10' ceiling. Thank you!
In this case, I’m glad I took the time to make a video… You as well as a few hundred others have reached out with photos and gratitude for the info… I’m happy to share… Shoot me an email at JKHARTEL3@gmail.com if you have any questions
Watched 3 DIY hoist system videos today, this is by far the best and most sturdy one. Good job!
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment… I watched a handful and couldn’t seem to find exactly what I was looking for or answers from the poster, so I Did a bit of research and made my own… Happy to pay it forward… Let me know if you have any questions I’m happy to help
JKHARTEL3@gmail.com
That's the system I need for my rooftop tent. Thank you for the clear explanation.
Absolutely… Don’t forget to check the description below for construction information… I have helped over a dozen folks like yourself around the world with their system since posting the video… If you have any questions don’t hesitate to reach out… My email is available in the description as well
Hi John,
Thanks for sharing! The detailed explanation of all the steps make it easy for the reconstruction of your hoist system!
Thanks… Over a dozen people have reached out via email with photos of their completed hoist system based on my video… If you have any questions don’t hesitate to reach out… See the description below for construction information and links
Exactly what I was looking for! Great Job! I am not very pulley savvy but your explanations and information gave me the understanding to adapt it to my situation.
I did this video for you.. happy to help.. let me know if you have any questions jkhartel3@gmail.com
Another great video thanks... I'm thinking about adjusting this system for hoisting the top. The Jeep community is better when folks like you are involved.
That’s what it’s all about! If it helps even one person learn or understand, then it’s worth my time to make a video explaining how to do it. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment! 🤘🏼
I was looking for something similar for my slotcar table top. Thank you for being really good at explaining how the system works.
Thanks for taking the to watch and comment! Always happy to help. I would love to see that when you’re done. Shoot an email to jkhartel3@gmail.com if you have any questions or want to share your construction to add to my viewers builds portfolio
Nicely done! Excellent, succinct explanations without a lot of useless fluff! I like your design; especially the 2:1 on the load bars. Good idea.
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment… As well as taking notice to a lot of information without extra fluff… That’s what I try to do give as much information as I can without tangents and opinions.. hundreds of folks from all over the world have reached out with photos and gratitude for my time spent explaining… Let me know if you have any questions, I’m happy to help… jkhartel3@gmail.com
Fantastic video! I was looking at various techniques for building a pulley shelving lift in my garage, I wanted it to be clean balanced and mechanically safe, this video was long but all the explanation is exactly what I needed to make sure this system will be safe not just for me but for the next homeowner. 👍
That’s exactly why I took the amount of time to make the video… Not just to get it done, but to further explain its abilities and safety… Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment… Let me know if you have any questions… I’ve helped dozens of folks around the world with their build, and some were similar to what you plan on doing. You can email me at
JKHARTEL3@gmail.com
😮 this is the best DIY video i have ever seen. I found this video searching for pulley system ideas to lift my truck canopy.
Thanks for making this video. 🙌
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment… I take pride in sharing information and helping people learn…I have construction information if you need it. I hope it wasn’t too long for you but if you should have any questions don’t hesitate to reach out or shoot me an email… I have since uploading this help people all over the world with their own… JKHARTEL3@gmail.com
that was awesome - looks complicated but a major advantage having only one line to hoist. I'll be building using this design!
Don’t hesitate to reach out. I gave a lot of information so it may seem complicated but it’s really quite simple and only requires a few simple tools. If you have questions or need construction information email me at JKHARTEL3@gmail.com.
This is "First time quality" tier. Awesome job.
Thanks! I put a lot of though and effort into the design and video i hopes even one persons finds it helpful. It’s super helpful and convenient for our RTT storage
Excellent video. One of the best I've seen on this subject. Thank you!
Thanks so much for the kind comment, and taking the time to watch… Let me know if you have any questions… My contact information is in the description as well as construction information and links to my dropbox
I love videos made by engineer types. Here's what to build. Here's why that works.
That’s exactly right! Happy to share! Some folks think I make it harder than it is. But I think the info does all the brain work to make it easy for others to understand. Let me know if you have any questions!
Thanks Gator , I used this video to install the lift in my carport to take the topper off my truck by my self. I had to make a frame in the center from some bed frame scraps to get it the way you have. in the end it works great cost around 250.00 and took a full day to install. You really did a good job covering all the bases thanks again.
Thanks so much for reaching out Joseph it’s always good to hear from my viewers especially on a construction project… I would love to see it, and add it to my viewers builds! I’m glad my information helped you, that’s what it’s for, just paying it forward! 🤝
Email me at JKHARTEL3@gmail.com
That “pearl jam” ‘patagonia’ shirt is cool! 👍🏼
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Thanks for the video! Used yours over others as a foundation to start and worked out well!
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment 🤝
i love the safety chain idea! gonna add that to my jeep top hoist build.
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment…
Awesome video! I really like how you explained the details. Thanks for making the video.
You bet !! This video is for you. Let me know if you have any questions. My contact info is in the video description
Perfect work out there John!
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment! 🤘🏼
Awesome video and instructions. Thanks for the well laid out design, instructions and engineering explanation of pulley systems.
Glad you’re able to take advantage of it! Shoot me an email @ JKHARTEL3@gmail.com if you have any build specific questions.. I’ve helped hundred of folks around the world
this was so good. wow. the mechanical engineer in me is very impressed.
I appreciate that. I’m not a mechanical engineer but.. went to school for it a few years and a bit of it stuck.. figured I wouldn’t hurt to share this with folks like yourself in hopes that it’s exactly what they are looking for. 🤝
Looks awesome! Great job and detailed video!
Thanks man!
Holy over-engineering-like-a-boss, Batman! Great job and great video!
Safety first!! Thank you.. I know it’s a bit over explained but I want folks who would maybe shy away from the task feel comfortable doing it on their own.. I have dozens of photos of folks who have sent me emails of their own construction based on my info.. if you need construction info shoot me a message to jkhartel3@gmail.com
Awesome attention to detail and precision!. This is the best explained hoist system that can be tailored to the size and load capacity needed at a fraction of cost the prebuilt systems.
That is exactly right! Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment.
I show you asking another comment about the eyebolts but I can’t reply to it for some reason… Feel free to email me any questions you may have jkhartel3@gmail.com
@@GatorOverland I sent an email reg my question. Thanks!
I followed up with an email and short video… Reach out via phone number I provided if you have any other questions
Thank you very much for taking the time to document this! I used your video in order to make my hoist, and used a lot of the materials and ideas that you did, just made a few variations to fit my specific needs and how much weight I may need to lift in the future.
This is great to hear!! Thanks for taking the time to follow up!! We’re now at over 100 viewer installs!!! Shoot your photos over to jkhartel3@gmail.com so I can add to my “viewers builds” portfolio
Thank you so much for this video, you explained everything I needed to know and now I have a good understanding of how to adapt my system to suit me.
This is awesome to hear! Thanks taking the time to watch and comment. Feel free to reach out if you have any questions, always happy to helps
Jkhartel3@gmail.com
Beautiful set up
Thanks! It works great !! Let me know if you have any questions
DUDE!!! That’s freaking awesome. I’ve seen a lot of videos on CZcams, a lot of in-depth detailed videos but man…you are one seriously detailed guy. I’m guessing here but, Mechanical Engineering right?
This is a system exactly what I’m looking for. Thanks so much! 👍
Nail on the head bud.! Let me know if you have any question jkhartel3@gmail.com happy to help
Gearhead and Engineer here.. Nice video and good explanation of pulley systems! Love it. Looking at your setup, you could leave the load boards attached and swing them to the front and back of the roof top tent (RTT) without having to disconnect them from the lines. You would have to lift the RTT with your shoulder on the front like you did in the video to provide clearance with the truck roof. You could also use quick release tension handles on the T-slot bolts (think quick release bicycle tires) to attach the load board to the RTT, which would keep the T-slot bolts with the load boards (less floating pieces to lose).
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment… Those are great ideas, I will definitely look into it quick release attachments as mentioned. With the t bolts in the board and the knob slightly loose and I am able to move the boards back-and-forth with a light tap so your idea might work better for sliding the boards in as mentioned and then tapping them into the position below the ceiling braces. The only reason I have to disconnect it is the carabiner will not go through the pulley
Or run the planks parallel to the truck and add 2 more planks with easy fastening
John that was a very easy to understand video, even the mechanical advantage portion. Took me back to high school math/science class, wait do I really want to repeat all of that 😜
😂😂😂thanks man. Yes I figured I might as well explain why/how it works so folks will be comfortable knowing it won’t break or fall, because, Physics proves it 😂😂😂
Thanks for the thorough breakdown!
I figured at least one person out there would appreciate it.. folks like you make what i do worth doing .
Excellent video, well done! Thank you.
You bet, let me know if you have any questions… Check the description below for construction information and material links
That's a neat little system! Looks to be similar to Harken and around the same price. I am at the stage of building vs. buying and like your setup since it offers adjustability in the square tubing if I ever needed to use it as platform storage.
Yes, exactly.. it’s a similar design to a harken, but the highest capacity harken is only capable of 200lbs at a price point of $230 and you still need to invest in other materials for mounting.. for about the same price my design is capable of 400lbs, limited by the (4) 100lb stationary pulleys on then load boards, and could easily be increased if higher capacity stationary/swivel pulley and rope was used. Either way they are great options. I like projects and I like sharing them with others so it was a win win, and if it helps even one person learn or understand, then it was worth my time to do. Don’t forget to check the description for links to my dropbox for construction information and contact information should you have any other questions. 🤘🏼
This was great!! Best explanation and nicest build so far.
Thanks I appreciate that… If you have any questions, shoot me an email at JKHARTEL3@gmail.com
Well-done amigo. I appreciate the level of detail; the "how" and especially the "why" information as you move through the design and installation. Thank you.
Absolutely! Thanks for the kind comment! My contact info is in the description. Don’t hesitate to reach out if you have any questions
This is an educationally awesome vid. Thx
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment… Let me know if you have any questions
Wow. That was detailed.
😂😂.. you are now a mechanical engineer
Great explanation and thank you for the diagram and pictures.
Absolutely!! Let me know if you have any questions.. I help folks with theirs nearly every day.. jkhartel3@gmail.com
Very cool, thank you for sharing that video!
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment… I hope folks literally every day with this configuration… A lot of cool builds out there now… If you have any questions, please reach out… jkhartel3@gmail.com
Outstanding video! Thank you!
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment… Let me know if you have any questions… JKHARTEL3@gmail.com
Brilliant well done from Perth Australia
Thanks from Texas! Awesome to see it’s made it down under! Let me know if you have any questions! 🤘🏼🤝
Great video!
Great video John. I am about to tackle the same project. I also have a ceiling light to work around as well and very limited on distance from the wall that I want to mount the winch. Was originally thinking of using an electric winch but there is not enough value to offset the money and need for power connection. Thanks for your thoroughness.
Absolutely!! That’s what it’s all about!! Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment! Feel free to contact me via links in the description if you have any questions.
Great video and idea! Love the setup!
I’ve helped hundreds of folks around the world develop their own with great success.. thanks for the kind comment 🤘🏼
this is very cool and informative.
Thanks, let me know if you have any questions
We’ll done. Succinctly explained.
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Coming from someone learning to be an engineer, you did a great job. The safety chain is a great idea. The only thing I'd change is where it is mounted. Since the eyelet is coming out the side of the square stock, its creating a moment (rotational force).
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment… You’re absolutely correct about the eyelet and rotation force. I have considered relocation and a smaller eye faced down to center the force of gravity/rotational force. 🤝
@@GatorOverland How would you mount the eye bolt facing downward? Directly into the ceiling joists or use another square tubing? Thanks
great video, just the right amount of detail. I'm looking for a way to get my poker table out of the way when not in use, I think this is just the ticket. Fold the legs up, put a few load boards under it and hoist it out of the way. Thanks!
This will work great for that… Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment… Let me know if you have any questions… Check the description for links to my dropbox for construction information… Or email me at JKHartel3@gmail.com
Great video and setup. I'm going to build one for my garage! Safety tip: Never let a wire rope run through your hand. If it starts running it will destroy your palm and maybe take off a finger.
Awesome!! Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. Don’t hesitate to reach out via email with questions JKHartel3@gmail.com
AND thanks for the wire rope tip 🤘🏼
Very detailed information! Two thumbs up man and thanks for the links in the description for the items needed!
Absolutely man… The idea was to cover everything so no one had any questions and if they did, they can contact me personally… If you have any questions don’t hesitate to ask I’m always happy to help
@@GatorOverland no questions comes to mind since you may have covered it all. I’ll order what I need and put it together next month. If I have questions, I’ know who to ask. Thanks!!!
You bet! My contact info is in the description as well as links to my drop box
Very good explanation
Awesome… I appreciate that… It works great
Thank you, building this now
You bet… Let me know if you have any questions, I’m always happy to help… JKHARTEL3@gmail.com
Great video! Thanks
Awesome Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment
Freaking AWESOME thorough DIY video 👌🏽 Thank you.
That’s what I do… It may be long winded, but I know it will be informative to someone… Let me know if you have any questions…
@GatorOverland None now, but thanks.. I'm just gonna get my build of materials and start. I'll be purchasing the same roofnest in your video soon to explore Colorado, and storage was the one downside for all the reasons you mentioned in your video.
@@ghostfantasmo shoot me an email I have a bunch of camp info for Colorado and Utah
Jkhartel3@gmail.com
You belong on TV dude! Such a fantastic DIY and extremely thorough. Thank you!
😂😂 TV !? I’m just happy help. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment 🤘🏼
@@GatorOverland I just noticed that my joists in the garage run perpendicular to yours. is there going to be alot of problems with a 90 degree twist in the ropes/pulleys? any work around for this?
That shouldn’t be a problem that I can think of.. shoot me an email with some photos and we can discuss
JKHartel3@gmail.com
Nicely done brother. Wish I could still get ours into the garage 😆
Yeah same here 🤣
Great setup bro. Thanks for this! design. I can totally retrofit this into my metal garage. Also, awesome Pearl Jam shirt!
Thanks on all accounts! 🤘🏼.. I help folks all the time, all over the world.. if you have any build specific questions, don’t hesitate to reach out.. jkhartel3@gmail.com
Great setup!
Thanks, it worked out even better than I imagined!
@@GatorOverland love the explanation and detail. I need to do this but don't have the room currently. Saving this video for future endeavors though!
This one is for you bud! Shoot me an email if you have any questions!
@@GatorOverland definately will! Appreciate it!
Going to get parts to build this right. Amazing video!
Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment… Should you have any questions check the description for my email address… I have helped dozens of folks around the world with their build in the case that they had some hiccups… Always happy to help.
@@GatorOverland finished mine and it works great. 🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽
That’s awesome to hear… Glad it worked out… If you don’t mind, shoot me some photos of it at my email address JKHARTEL3@gmail.com
Excellent video! Thank you!
You bet! Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment! Let me know if you have any questions
@@GatorOverland My project is a full sized workbench that I want to suspend from the ceiling, so this video is awesome! And I’ll be using your affiliate links because I like to support quality content. I’m serious - I’m a content creator myself (not on CZcams) and this video is fantastic! I know it’s not as easy as it looks to make quality content, so I get it :)
Wow.. someone actually gets it.. yes.. 20 mins of your time took me 16hours to develop 😂.. I appreciate that.. if not on CZcams, what kind of content do you creat (is this my friend Nate Johnson from Utah with the white diesel JT?)
@@GatorOverland No, not that Nate Johnson. I live in Seattle and I work in video production. I’m partners in a small video production team and we focus on high end story telling for corporate clients. Think long form commercial-infomercial, but without selling anything. Think educational at the enterprise level. Specifically, I’m the DP for our team, I handle lighting, some editing and special effects, and I’m also the photographer. So I totally know what it’s like to embark on a project and spend hours to deliver 3 min!
That’s awesome! Well I take what you said as a super comment then 😂😂.. one man team over here just trying to learn peoples stuff one project at a time.
Keep in touch, I’d like to see how the floating workbench works out. JKHARTEL3@gmail.com
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Nice shirt man. Love it.
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Thanks!😀
Wow!! This is incredible!!! My first super thanks! Reach out via email if you should have any questions out your specific build.
jkhartel3@gmail.com
You are a genius
I don’t know about that… but I know my tent will last a long time, and my wife is happy the garage is still spacious. 😂
Great video I did the same thing. The only thing I did different I use the chandelier hoist.
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment !
@@GatorOverland
I love your videos you get straight to the point no rambling.
I appreciate that.. usually you see a 20min video you’re wondering how much of that is fluff.. I make it a point to answer nearly any question I imagine before doing my designs and installs.. leaving you with 20mins of a learning experience.. 😂🤝
God bless you baby, awesome video!
🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼 glad to help.. let me know if you have any questions or want construction info jkhartel3@gmail.com
This is genius!
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment! Let me know if you have any questions. See description for links and contact info. 🤘🏼
Instead of 3/8 3" lag screw into the ceiling joists I went with 4". Going through 1.5 square tubing and washer, I wanted more to go into the ceiling joist :)
Ain’t nothing wrong with going deeper… (that what she said) 😂
Nice! Now I just need a garage to park my gladiator in so I can build one of these
Thanks bud! Soon I’m going to attempt to raise both the tent and the rack connected to Incase I need full bed access.. I need to come up with a turnbuckle to pull inward where the rack attaches to the bed rails to keep them from Bowing out when picked up since they are under preload. Other than that, it works better than I expected!
Great video, I will likely be building one of my own. Our RTT is on an SUV, so we can't get under it to leverage and get the boards under it like you did here. Maybe instead of disconnecting the 2x6s we could slide it over the top/bottom and lift it up a bit to get the car out from underneath. After that we could very carefully lift the RTT up to further slide the 2x6s under the frame that it will bolt into. Problem with this is both unloading and loading will have the RTT resting on the 2x6s without being bolted down.
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment… There is actually no problem with leaving the rooftop 10 on the load boards without being fastened… I merely did this as an additional safety measure… What you have suggested by lifting up the rooftop tent slightly to slide in the board is perfectly fine… I have a friend with a forerunner that does it this way. Just make sure you determine your center of gravity for the tent and locate the load boards accordingly… Let me know if you have any further questions on construction, I’m happy to help… Email me at JKHARTEL3@gmail.com
Great video! Very detailed and informative! I installed a Harbor Freight hoist and it works great. I made an install video but yours is so much better than mine 😎 I just need to figure out how to attach the hoist better to the RTT. I like your board idea.
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment… Knowing others out there may have current hoist set ups and can easily upgrade their existing set up is awesome to know.. yes the load boards work great and are very rigid when attached to the tent… It would be about $12 worth of material for you😂🤘🏼
@@GatorOverland you bet! You did a great job on this video! Yea I need to set something up for mine with boards. I might need a pulley or something. My RTT is so heavy and it’s really unbalanced!!!
This will definitely solve or alleviate that issue
Something tells me former Navy and and now an engineer.
pretty close… I am not military, but I work in engineering..I’m just a guy making things easier for those who are willing to do it themselves. Let me know if you have any questions 🤝
apreciate the design and details on setup. gonna built similar setup for my Falcon 2 Pro, but i've got tracks can use eyebolts in vs needing the boards under. ;)
Be careful using your track as the lifting point… I believe the tracks are only rated for 75 pounds per side or 25 pounds per bolt… If that works out to under the weight of your falcon Then it is a great use of the track… Otherwise it could be dangerous and rip through the aluminum.
yulp, their rated for 150lb on the racks. i'll be adding nylon ratchet straps under as well for added security.@@GatorOverland
Awesome… If you don’t mind, shoot me an email with some photos when you get it done… Or if you have any questions on construction don’t hesitate to reach out… jkhartel3@gmail.com
I'd like brickwork on your garage. Nice a job man.
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment… Let me know if you have any questions
In my next house I'm doing this by making sure I have a big enough garage door opening. Currently I wouldn't be able to get into or out of the garage with the tent on the truck, even if I aired down. Totally doing this next time though.
😂😂 truck with tent is 84” tall I was fortunate that my threshold was 92” in the center, but tapers down on the sides so it does take a bit of maneuvering to line up, but it’s off and on in 10mins now and out of the element on down time.
I’ve watched several videos on this topic over the last several days and finally came upon yours. Your explanation of the pulley system and mechanical advantage etc was exactly what I was looking for! I need to understand how and why something works the way it does before I can confidently apply the lesson, and you helped me achieve that next level of understanding - thank you! I intend to use what I learned to create a retractable workbench for a 3D printer/laser engraver that takes up too much space in my workshop when not in use. I have a few other ideas that would benefit from this utility, which leads me to ask a question: if I set up a winch + hoist system as you did but wanted to lift/lower different loads (located in different places), could I use the same winch for them? (Basically, can I create a “quick-connect” to the winch and interchange the load I’m trying to pull?)
I’m not an overlander (but would probably enjoy it…and have quietly lusted over the roof nests) but I subscribed to your channel and look forward to learning more from you! Thank you for creating with such careful intention.
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. I actually just helped a guy do the same idea. Please reach out via email and we can discuss further. As for your multi purpose winch idea.. yes it will work, but would take some brainstorming for efficient routing
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“We’re gonna raise the roof…top tent.” Gotta love dad jokes. 😂
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment… I keep my dad jokes and a dad-a -base
John, great video. I may have missed it if you mentioned these but 2 factors I think are important when adding additional pulleys needed to gain the mechanical advantage. If you go direct from the platform, each turn of the winch results in a 1:1 lift of the platform. This means your bridle needs to be the same number of feet away from the min winch position as the height you want to lift. IE, to lift 10 ft, the bridle needs to be at least 10ft away from the wall. Once you add additional pulleys at the platform connections and the winch, it is no longer a 1:1 between the length of cable pulled in by the winch and the height the platform raises. This affects your planning and something you need to verify before drilling. In addition, the lift speed is reduced dramatically. Just some food for thought for others before they start.
Thanks man, I appreciate that… Yes start at about 16:35 for the full explanation… I go further on at about 18:56… And then specifically what you’re telling me in your statement is mentioned at 19:50..
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment 🤝
@@GatorOverland Perfect, I totally missed it as I already have a system built and was jumping around. Is there a multiplying factor as well when you do Mech Adv 2 at the platform AND at the winch? Does it become a 4-1 at that point?
Thanks agains and nice work!
No worries… The MA2 basically divides the load by two in any situation… So at that point, yes 4 to 1.. 160/4
160#/2 = 80# (load at bridle)
80#/2= 40# (load at winch)
This was detailed. Like n sub
Awesome!! I appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment… Let me know if you have any questions… over 100 folks have reached out after building this, so I have a bunch of different configurations for comparison of your own construction. Jkhartel3@gmail.com
John, nice video and explanation. I created a lift system just as you have for my truck cap. With this system, it is virtually a 4-1 mechanical advantage, yes? A 2-1 advantage for what I would call the lift system (that part in front of the load bridle) and another 2-1 for the pull system (that part attached to the winch). I'm surprised at the amount of force I need to just lift my two boards with no weight on them. I can barely manually lift the two boards pulling by hand. I tried another test. I have a couple of 70lb sand bags I put on the boards and tested. I couldn't lift them at all. With a 4-1 advantage, my total lifting force for 140lbs would be 35lbs. I'm not superman, but I can lift 35lbs with one arm. I estimate my truck cap to weigh somewhere around 200lbs (give or take 50lbs). I haven't purchased a winch yet as I'm confused on the amount of force needed for my unloaded system. Do (did) you have the same issue? Is this just the amount of drag of the total system?
Bart, thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. I’d love to talk with you more about your setup. Please contact me outside of CZcams so we can share info and pics/vids for reference
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BLAH BLAH BLAH SCIENCE! ;) great work man!
You have the award for the best comment I’ve ever received… And I thank you.. 😂😂🤘🏼
@@GatorOverland ha!
You should install these as a side hustle!
Not a bad idea! I appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment
This is a great video. Do you have one that covers your installation process?
No I do not have any specific video for my installation rather it’s an overview because every installation will be different… I have had a couple dozen folks reach out via email and I have gone over specifics with them and they have been able to do it for themselves with their configuration. See the description for links to all the construction information and materials… Shoot me an email at JKHARTEL3@gmail.com and I’m happy to help in anyway (photos, clips, info)
Thanks for the awesome video. I am in the process of building a similar setup to take my rack and tent off together. In looking at the worm gear setup I'm curious how you held the bolt onto the shaft on the winch when lowering the tent. Raising it makes sense that it would stop threading on at a point but, depending on the amount of torque you're applying you could easily back off the nut on that shaft. Just curious how you bypassed that, or if it was such an aggressive gear ratio that you back that nut off.
You propose a very good question… There is very little resistance on the worm gear because it’s 40 to 1… If you hit it with an impact style drill it will definitely back off the nut… But you can use the drill on a low torque setting and start slow and then once it gets momentum going let her rip. I have yet to have it back off except for the first time which was a learning experience. Let me know if you have any questions or feel free to reach out via email… jkhartel3@gmail.com
Great video. Noticed you have your bikes mounted as well. Do you have a video for that?
No, but the company is called steady rack. They have a single pair option on Amazon.. we love it!! amzn.to/3MzymHo
Hi John, thank you for the great video with detailed walkthrough of the process! I am planning to build the same for hoisting my IKamper 2.0 Skykamp RTT in my garage (12' ceiling height). I am wondering what kind of floor joist you have, (solid 2x6 stud or engineered I-frame with plywood web and how much screw thread you got into the wood? The reason I am asking is because, mine is engineered I-frame which is constructed using 1 1/8" thickness solid wood at top and bottom. With 3" 3/8 lag screw it will only reach about 7/8" into the wood when we factor in the washer, 1 1/2 inch square tube and 1/2" drywall. Wondering, whether two 3" screws with 7/8" thread inside the wood (on each of the four square tubes) is enough to hold the weight safely ? Any thoughts ?
Thanks for reaching out… I’d be happy to answer some questions you have, shoot me an email at JKHARTEL3@gmail.com
With the lag bolts, simply out, the longer they are and the more you uses the stronger it will be. I’ve helped build organize 3 other folks systems already..
Thanks!! Great video and set up. You have to be an engineer!!!!!!! Hahahaha.
😂😂 thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. I do engineering for work, so it did help with the development for this project. If you have any questions, don’t hesitate to reach out.. JKHARTEL3@gmail.com
I think the only thing I’m wary of on this setup is the pulleys installed into the endgrain of the load boards - maybe its fine, but I feel like perhaps a piece of punched angle on each corner of the load boards would give me a lot more peace of mind.
Absolutely… There’s no harm in being over cautious… In my situation the weight is only 40 pounds per corner and I used lag bolts sufficient of the load… It’s to anyone’s discretion of how careful they want to be but in my opinion it is totally safe and has been holding up without issues for two years. you could utilize the same square tubing and instead of using a fixed pulley you could attach a pulley through one of the holes with use of an eyebolt much like I did for the upper ceiling brackets….
I’ll be eager to set the results. 😴😴👊🏽🤙🏽
Thanks for the comment! It works great!
Great video can I ask what watch your wearing in the video
Hey bill thanks for taking the time to watch and comment .. the watch is the luminox recon 8826.MI for (mph walking).. they have updated the style since my model
I enjoyed your video and method, have you noticed any movement on the pulleys attached to your load boards? I’ve found mounting into the end grain of wood to be dicey, especially with soft woods. I doubt it would matter much here, but if someone scaled up this design for a heavier lift I suspect the pulleys would tear out long before any of the other components failed. In any case, thank you for sharing your project.
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. You’re absolutely right about the end grain. The tent is 160lbs, only only 40lbs per corner, and the lug size x length I used is rated for 200lbs each. I’m pretty confident with my construction, but If I was going any heavier I would probably do an eye bolt thru the topside of the board and fasten with a large washer on the bottom side for displacement. But to answer your question further, no, there has been no degradation in nearly 3 years and multiple cycles of installing and removing the tent. Smooth as butter and works great.
Loved the video. Can you tell me what type of rope you used and what was it rated for? I'm working on a hoist for my James Baroud Grand Raid XXL which is 165 lbs.
3/8” Diamond braid rated for 250lbs
Thank you for the video and the detailed explanations of what to buy and why. I bought an electric hoist and my garage has vaulted ceilings but the wood beams that run from front to back are too low. It won’t pull high enough so I have to switch to a pulley setup or wall mount.
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment… Don’t hesitate to reach out via email if you have any questions about your specific build… JKHARTEL3@gmail.com
@@GatorOverlandthanks! I do have a question. Instead of using boards to help lift, could we use lifting slings? I know it’s easier to level it out with boards, but I was just curious. I’m thinking of putting a sling or board under the long side of the tent vs the short side. My tent is about 78” long so I’d need a really long 2x6 or just use a sling instead.
Absolutely… I’ve actually had a viewer construct with lifting slings… Shoot me an email and I can shoot you photos for reference
Fantastic job on this, I am hooked. If you don’t mind, what was the total cost all in, please? Thanks
Thanks.. about $200-250.. premade options of equivalent are 200lb capacity
Nice job! Thank you for a very descriptive video! I was considering an electric hoist but the drill driven version will more than suffice for my needs. Mechanical advantage at work, I "better" understand now! ;-) Question. Do you have enough rope length to lower the 2x6 load bars all the way to the floor?
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. By design, I only needed about 2 feet to drop… with mechanical advantage 2 that would mean I needed at minimum 4 feet from the Hoist wall.. I have a 9 foot ceiling, so to touch the floor using MA2, I would need 18 feet to the hoisting wall.. MA1 would need only 9 feet from the hoisting wall..
If you have any specific questions, please reach out via email at JKHARTEL3@gmail.com
Various viewer build photos for reference from around the world, and I’m sure we can get you fixed up .
@@GatorOverlandThanks! I'll shoot you an email.
Great video! The joists in my garage run the opposite direction so I’m trying to figure out how to do my pulley junction block. Does the pulley junction block need to be dead center between the ceiling braces?
You’ve asked a great question… Neither does the pulley junction block have to be center nor does it have to face the same direction as mine… That’s the beauty of this system… As long as all load lines are equal everything will work just fine… Feel free to reach out via email and I can help you further jkhartel3@gmail.com