Should Europe Return Africa's Lost Treasures? | Foreign Correspondent
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- Europe’s museums are stashed full of Africa’s cultural heritage, much taken in colonial times. Some was looted, some traded. Some museums say they’re the rightful owners but others say the objects belong in Africa.
“No-one has the right to take what belongs to the African people, because it’s our heritage”, yells Mwazulu Diyabanza as he yanks an African funerary pole off its museum stand.
The Congolese activist is in Paris’ prestigious quai Branly Museum, which holds some 70 000 artefacts from Africa. Two thirds of these were brought to France during the colonial era.
Mwazulu is determined to put the issue under the national spotlight.
Most of us are familiar with the stoush over whether Britain should return Greece’s lost treasures - the Elgin Marbles. There’s now a growing debate across Europe about whether its museums should return Africa’s cultural heritage.
In the 19th and early 20th centuries, European countries colonised Africa, exploiting its natural and cultural resources.
Some of these objects were looted, some taken under duress, others traded. It’s estimated a whopping 90% of sub-Saharan cultural objects are now held outside the continent where they were made.
“Young people in these countries, they need their heritage”, says Marie-Cécile Zinsou, an art historian and curator who runs a gallery in Benin, West Africa. “These objects are part of our history and explain who we were, so they are very, very important.”
But Diyabanza’s radical actions worry many.
“If you allow people to come and take back what they want, based on their own feeling, what will be the future of the museum?” asks Emmanuel Kasarhérou, President of the quai Branly - Jacques Chirac Museum.
In France, the subject became a national talking point when newly elected President Marcon visited Africa and said the continent’s cultural objects should be in African museums. Three years later, France has passed a law to return 27 objects.
In Germany, recent debates about the country’s colonial history have highlighted the ethical problems of displaying looted art. A massive new cultural and museum centre in the heart of Berlin is being criticised for exhibiting ‘Benin Bronzes’, a set of statues and carvings looted by the British in present-day Nigeria and held in museums across the world.
In a colourful and eye-opening story, France-based reporter Allan Clarke travels from Paris to Berlin and Hamburg to see the vast ethnographic collections in these cities.
He talks to museum leaders, artists and activists about the thorny issue of who owns Africa’s lost cultural treasures and whether they should be returned.
Museum directors are now confronting the issue but will this translate into action?
“So things should go back, but how many things go back and which things go back and which things can be shown here” says Hermann Parzinger from Berlin’s Humboldt Forum. “I think this has to be solved in a dialogue.”
In November, France will return 26 objects to Benin in West Africa. “It’s not the end of something”, says Kasarhérou. “It’s the beginning of something new.”
“If it's a first step; it's historical, it's very important. It's the most symbolical thing you can do” says Zinsou. “If it's the only step, well… it's nothing.”
Mwazulu remains uncompromising. “Let’s go to the core of the problem. The West admits that they stole and when you steal, you must return what you’ve stolen.”
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Hey everyone, you may have already watched this program last night; we had to reupload the program because we accidentally left off a team member who worked on the program in the credits, apologies for any confusion caused.
Who even watches the credits (except for the people that worked on it)
Who cares?
maybe just throw it all away. its shit
"Lost" is a very strange way to say "stolen"
There was more to it than that
@@electricdreams9446 how so?
@@karlrogers4464 some were gifts of diplomacy.
@@electricdreams9446 MOST OF IT WHERE LOOTED, HENCE THE REASON THEY ARE ASKING BACK.
@@africasiagloballtd5596 They are asking for them to relinquish ownership with no evidence to prove the way in which ownership was transferred...
Why can't European countries 3d print copies and return the originals that way people can see what the artifact looks like without other countries losing their culture and past
Exactly. Replicas of these items can be made and kept in foreign museums and the originals returned.
The simplicity of this solution blows my mind.
Some museums have been commissioning replicas from local crafts people, so they can keep a copy and return the originals. In some cases, this has resulted in better relationships, and the addition of new complementary objects in their collections.
@@silentWolf334 People go to museums to see originals, 3d models are a complement to collections of original artefacts, not a replacement. Nobody would go to a "museum" that had nothing but replicas, you may aswell look at images on the internet.
It's that important right? To keep other people's glory as yours? These were stolen artifacts! Thief with no shame!
These items were never lost, we know who stole them and where they were smuggled to.
Strange there is so much reluctance to return these artifacts when the French cried about all of their art in the hands of private German collectors after the war.
They can cry all they want, the scots grey are not returning the eagle ahahahah
There is quite a bit of difference between artifacts taken hundreds of years ago or LAWFULLY acquired artifacts, and those artifacts taken in a recent war by literal nazis that were then spread about to other Germans who collected them.
@@sirissac234 actually there is no difference, these objects were looted by colonial forces and passed on to the museum. Exactly the same as what the Nazis did. Just because it changed hands a bunch of times and writs of sale were handed over doesn't make these objects lawfully obtained as any police officer would tell you with regards to stolen goods.
Just because the war happened 70 years ago and Colonial looting happened 150 years ago has no bearing on the morality of keeping them.
@@Sairagna "actually there is no difference, these objects were looted by colonial forces and passed on to the museum. Exactly the same as what the Nazis did."
Actually there is a difference. Because you have no actual proof of how artifacts from hundreds of years ago were acquired, where they absolutely did with the Nazis looting Europe. You have no way of determining who originally owned these artifacts in Africa to begin with. Were they sold? Or given as gifts by tribes/individuals/rulers to dignitaries/diplomats or notable people, or given to missionaries, as many thousands of artifacts were. Were they acquired lawfully in trade or purchased lawfully by museums and institutions from private collectors, antique dealers, or auction houses? Were they acquired with the legitimate permission of African nations through excavations or from the rulers/states directly? Literally none of those are comparable to the Nazis looting Europe.
The lack of documented provenance isn't proof that something was looted. The majority of artifacts did not have documented provenance because that wasn't even a thing until the 20th century. No country has the right to demand that ANY and ALL artifacts be returned to their country of its initial origin.
isn’t this the plot of Black Panther?
The plot of black panther was literally family drama. What?
Their museums will be empty without the artifacts. They even have the audacity to go to the extent of giving back some artifacts they stole on loan. Imagine!
Yes, not so hard to imagine..,. They own those items, if somewhere wants to use them for display and the owner doesn't want to give them to the other museum they are loaned, what a shocker... The alternative is that the museum that wants to display the item never gets it at all...
The artifacts were never lost...they were stolen!! Big difference
Traded, big difference!!!!!
@@harrier331 STOLEN!!!
@@chinedunduaguba4886 Provide proof for every artifact...
All stolen artifacts need to be returned to their right full owners!! ✨
Stolen?
dude... If Europe didnt keep African treasure, there would be no African treasure. It would all be destroyed.
@@captain_context9991complete nonsense
@@rebeccaconlon9743 yes stolen. Or should I say looted
"90% of your heritage" she says proudly lol..who'd want to keep such a heritage alive? Just return what you stole. When thieves get caught and the loot gets recovered, it gets returned to the rightful owners. Simple as that.
Thats not how it works. If Europe didn't keep African treasure... There would be no African treasure. It would all just be lost.
@@captain_context9991 this objects are cultural, pass down from generation to generation. Why did their not get destroyed.
@@theoldschoolgamer
The vast majority of them HAVE BEEN destroyed. There are extremely few artifacts to be found in all of Africa.
@@captain_context9991 90% of African act is not in Africa. And most africa act was taken . Like in my village cultural or spiritual act was taken long ago. In the museum we see photos. African art was not destroyed it was taken, how do you destroy something spiritual to you culture.
@@theoldschoolgamer
Wow... How things get destroyed? Things get destroyed or sold all the time. Very few places in all of Africa are civilized enough to keep things of culture from being destroyed or sold.
What is with all the anger about returning artifacts to Africa from Africans living in Europe with asylum visas who do not want to or cannot return to Africa themselves.
They probably realized if they returned them no one would visit those museums, lol, just too many stolen treasures.
Absolutely, Africa has many beautiful museums and a right to learn about our heritage on our own continent in our own countries.
The right of conquest has been a legitimate cause of ownership for millennia I find no reason to see it being deemed unlawful. It’s history like it or not it’s already happened. Unless it’s in violation of a country cultural protection laws or the 1970 UNESCO Convention for the protection of cultural heritage I see no reason to return artifacts unless it’s been explicitly stolen.
MOST DEFINITELY NOT ONLY IN AFRICA BUT EVERYTHING STOLEN FROM AROUND THE WORLD !! But the issue here is can they protect & maintain these treasures knowing the massive corruption & poverty within AFRICA?!
I suggest that instead of going in to these collections of stolen goods, when we go to London or Paris or New York we stand outside the museums for 1 hour with a small sign saying "give back the stolen goods".
😂😂😂😂 that’s not gonna do anything 😂😂😂😂
Hell yes!!! Europe return Africa’s lost treasures ASAP
Shouldn't we use the word stolen lol.
Even at 0:44, he says that France took the objects.
In Australia we're living on what we stole!
Same here in America!
Conquer or be conquered
Land is “owned” by right of conquest and continuous occupation. That’s the natural law of survival.
@@statesk8r yeah there's a few of us in the colonisation club!
@@Elearen conquerors often say that.
Give them back, It's a national Treasure for them..Shame on you France..You guys are proud of your stolen treasure -_-
A) The lack of views, compared to other ABC clips, shows that most people don't know enough to engage with the subject in the first place.
B) It is a leading question that has an obvious answer laid within. If you have to ask, you already know.
It is hard to care about something one doesn't know about.
I think Africa has bigger problems they could be worrying about.
I think you should let Africans decide what's urgent to them
That’s the fallacy of relative privation
Thou shalt not steal who wrote that, will Africa get justice?
No country should steal other countries treasures
What happens when they blow them up?
What happens if they were freely given?
Haha, only one word about British museum, but England is the main vampire. Still.
When I die I'm put in the ground in that time I'm remembered ...as soon as im forgotten would I really be lost ... yet we dig up the past as claim it as forgotten and lost ....don't forget some one did remember
Profiting from stolen goods is dealing in the proceeds of a crime. Everyone fighting to keep these stolen artifacts should be charged with obstruction of justice and dealing in the proceeds of stolen goods.
Prove that it was "stolen"
@@rebeccaconlon9743 prove that colonialism never happened
I agree. All stolen items need to be returned. People are inspired not by what they pillaged by what they created. So all items of antiquity of those nations need to be returned and if Parisians want to see what their ancestors had stolen, then they can go visit those nations and their museums.
It would be one thing if they had the means to protect these things, but they don't. Africa is unstable, and who would you give them back to anyway? Cultures, populations, and borders change constantly.
If we can't protect them how come you found them in good shape before you stole them...how were they existing in Africa before being looted...that is a stupid argument
Don't be daft... Africa is no more 'unstable' than any other country in the wold... But keep believing what the western media constantly feeds you.
@@maishawena1997 There are 25 wars in africa right now, to a total of 49 world wide. Africa has more that 50% of all wars. Africa is still the poorest continent by far. Multiple civil wars playing out, a very recent country that gained independence, multiple civil wars in the works and massive cultural and economic instabilities. It is home to Basicaly all of the poorest and most underdeveloped countries in the world and 35% of the entire population lives in absolute poverty. Theese are all facts. South africa and some in the north african region aren't unstable and poor but the vast majority is. And North africa mostly has to talk with the turks (non-european).
@@infanos3720 You're right, but who are the biggest perpetrators of the wars? It's the west, look at Congo, the West and Europe Stand to gain far more from an unstable Congo. Congo had the worlds largest cobalt mines, and should be far wealthier than they are, yet why are they still in such a bad situation? The US and Europe. Same as SA. They are having problems with political instability thanks to apartheid, and who are the biggest perpetrators of that? The Dutch and the English. Look at Haiti right now ( even though it's not in Africa) don't you think it's a little bit suspicious that just when they find oil reserves ,their president get assainated? They rest of the world has been bleeding Africa for all she's worth for centuries and they continue to exploit her by making money off of the things and artifacts that they stole. Quite Frankly ,if only half of Europe payed back what they owed in colonialism reparations Africa would be in the situation it's in. Honestly, even look at Queen Elizabeth, almost all those jewels in her collection are stolen, for heaven's sake, her crown is literally a stolen stone from South Africa. But you know what let's flip the coin. If you look at the US, and the amount of school shootings they have, would you say that people shouldn't go to school?
Trusted me, if you actually lived in Africa, you would understand how much the Western media loves to exaggerate the poverty of Africa, yet people forget that African's may not have the same interpretation of poverty and power as the rest of the world.AND AT THE END OF THE DAY... THE ARTIFACTS STILL BELONG TO AFRICA. It's very simple really... Wars don't change that and neither does political instability...
@@maishawena1997 You arguement of 25 wars and only mentioning l one country is very faulty argument Africa will not receive the pieces until they've proven they can safely store them for the foreseeable future and currently they cannot so they will stay where they are
Whilst its good for us to have our African artefacts returned, it probably best to agree on which ones to return and which to keep at European museums and have the museums pay a portion of museum fees to the respective countries or particular king/chiefdoms so that its a win-win. Some people may travel to Africa to see the artefacts, yet other will see them in Europe. But we should settle things amicably and fairly and we should cooperate and level with each other.
You're sitting on the fence
Settling amicably? As of there was blame on both sides??? A win win for the victim and the thief???
Everyone take a look at what neocolonialism looks like. Smh.
Not possible for the 90% of your heritage to be so far away you say ?? Well plz explain the treasures stolen by the Brits from India then!! Thankfully some where practically impossible to steal and some of the treasures where hidden in secret vaults which we know of now!! 🙏
The British in no way looted "90%" of Indian heritage. That is physically impossible and India is still filled with artifacts today.
@@sirissac234 Did you pay ATTENTION to what I wrote?? Read it again!!! I never said they looted 90% 🤷
From context, I think she meant "Not _sustainable_ for 90% of your heritage to be so far away."
Yes. Give it all back. I could care less about your museums.
And what if it was a gift?
Why say lost when we all know it was stolen
If in the rare case that it could be proven that something was gifted by the respective culture; good for the museums. Otherwise, Yeah nah, it is only right to give the stuff back. If the cultural leaders in question so choose to have the items remain in those museums, then the terms of how the items are housed can be renegotiated in the favor of the respective culture.
Like How Apartheid was "gifted" black Lives and natural resources? cause that was all legal and on paper written by them.
@@leckansibanda1927 What do you mean?
If he came to France as,a political refugee then allow African art the same refugee status. France is good enough to.protect you but not your art?
These items were stolen, they did not seek refugee status and need to be returned.
Do u know what France's current involvement in Africa is and why so many africans from former from Franch colonies end up in France or do speak from ignorance?
@@BimRen246 No they were not, they were either traded for or taken as spoils of war (A tiny minority) Both of which transfer ownership. It is the same with land as it is with items.
V Hamilton, do not have to he ashamed of your past. However, please learn from your mistakes and try to be a better human being. These artefacts were stolen therefore they should be returned to the rightful owners. It is very shameful to be proud of stolen goods that belong to someone else.
IF SOMEONE AND OR NATIONS STOLE FROM YOU WOULD YOU NOT WANT IT BACK, AND WITH DAMAGES???
They should it's not even a question it's a must
Europe should give ALL stolen treasures back. I'm a white german woman and this guy has every right to take these important African pieces back to Africa.
You might want to read up on Karma. You can't have a Karma factory. Or collective Karma.
@@electricdreams9446 our world is a karma factory indeed
Yes and they must pay reparations to former colonies.
In your dreams
Agreed. At the very least stop profiting off of and continuing to steal African labor and resources
@@CC532009 so do you agree then that Germany should not have paid any reparations to any European country after WW1?
@@Tardig I’m sorry that’s a little before my time
@@CC532009 Most things are before most peoples time. That's why we learn history to not repeat the mistakes of the past. Let's put it this way: if you steal something from your neighbor shouldn't you give it back? Even if 20 years have passed?
YES!!!
'Should Europe Return Africa's Lost Treasures?'
If the question is 'Should Europe Return Africa's Lost Treasures?' it means Africa's Treasures haven't been lost, they are somewhere, in the museums in Europe. Europe that supposed to be Christian. Europe that sends people to evangelize others.
Loot others' items in order to erect your own museum isn't any Christian teaching. Share the blessings is what Christianity teaches. Therefore, one of the solutions can be to build museums in Africa countries from which the items have been stolen and share the exposition of these items, They can still be exposed in Europe but also for some times in Africa, exposition by rota.
It’s opening a can of worms to start returning looted art, the British Museum would be emptied if artwork from foreign lands went back to the land of its origin.
Good then British people will have to make art. Isn't that what the British right wing wants? More British culture.
That won't happen anyhow, there is a government injunction which explicitly forbids the transference of ownership of any item in its collection. A good thing too. We cannot allow this to occur, where would it end, people won't be content with just artifacts... what about land rights etc... madness.
Lol so you’re admitting everything you’ve got belongs to someone else
@@tyrionlannister6459 At one point EVERYTHING belonged to someone else, what matters is who ownes them today, the UK owns everything in all public museums which aren't leased...
@@harrier331😂 there stolen stop beating around the bush
Hahah when I steel something I say the same thing “lost”
It shouldn't even be a question
Absolutely!!!!
No
if the situation was reversed am sure there would be no debate and also how could they be lost artifacts if they can be found in European meuseam
Lost or traded away?
@ read yours
@ I have, hundreds of books, texts, letters, etc... I guess you don't know what research actually looks like
give them back
The Me too movement has hit a new nerve. How far are we going back in time? What about the treasures the Vikings stole? Or Rome stole from most of the ancient world. Should conquered land be returned? What about the great American robbery from the Native American communities. The Indians lost land and their heritage to immigrants.
LOL! What the hell has this got to do with "me too?"
The issue of the return of treasure to Europe's _recently independent_ colonies goes back to the 1960's when Europe had given up (or had been forced to give up) most of said colonies (long before the me too movement). From India to Nigeria to Malaysia. It's perfectly reasonable for a country to become independent then ask for its treasures back. Taking this reasonable request and countering with argument to absurdity is just silly. Vikings? C'mon.
I hope that your company will publish reports carefully so as not to affect the political relations between your country and other countries. After all, your company is only a broadcasting company.
Wow
During those colonizers period , Africa countries suffered n oppressed n discriminated n sold away as SLAVE to the New Countries .
BENIN is the most advanced western africa country n the 1st to used Iron n others minerals to creat their culture n in the end thousand upon thousands of Benin "s Iron antiques arts all was looted n stolen away n pop - up in European Mesu........
he needs more support from africans leaders and African brothers abroad he can just do it alone. he is a strong man big respect...
they didn't take it, they have stolen...
No.
If they should?? How is that a question????
Simple answer yes: ….
Should Europe Return Africa's Lost Treasures? You mean, Should Europe Return The Treasures They Stole From Africa?... Well, I'll put it this way... If you need a show to answer that question, well...uh... I don't think watching the show is really going to help you. Maybe I should go find a few Lost watches at Macy's and see what the police think.
ME: "But officer! The watches were under that glass, in that tiny box, just sitting there for years! So I excavated them!" OFFICER: "Oh! Ok! Why didn't you say so! You're free to go."
Don't worry.... We'll rightfully reclaim what's ours...
@ with what army, economy or political influence you chinesse puppets?
Where did they steal the KOH INOR from???!!!???!!!??? 🙈🙉🙊
Same is the situation for many indian artefacts lying in Britain museums
Yes.
Yes
How is it lost? You mean stolen.
Absolutely
Title is very misleading they are not lost but stolen
Portugal also stole brasil'gold.
Spain stole ALL of Mexico's, Peru's, Costa Rico's, & Columbia's GOLD 😢🎉!
Return what does not belong to you.
give back all dutch art then as well thats been scattered all over the world , same as for other countries to reclaim their arts
Who's keeping Dutch art's... & yes all art that's been deemed lost before being found or agreed to be outright stolen should be returned to their respective places of origin.
@@LK-ho1dg how could you be so ignorant 😏😏
Oh man, you got us!!! We’re just hoarding the wooden clogs and windmills 🤣
does colonials and thief's and so bad, not even ashamed. I wonder why Chinese are protecting themselves with strong army against the west Americans and Australians, Chinese are smart. they is no justice for Africa and Africa's is sad...
If the africans develop world class museums and facilities to house maintain and care for all artifacts they may be half way there?The real challenge will be to navigate the corruption both political and financial that these treasures bring with them!
IT'S NOT THE BUSINESS OF EUROPE WHAT THEY DO WITH IT. JUST RETURN
@@africasiagloballtd5596 I agree certainly but there is a difference what is given and what is taken,and who decides.this can be said of all indigenous artifacts held in foreign institutions around the globe.
This is crazy
Museums are overrated man
colonialism still alive why hiding and refusing to return stolen objects?
Plunderers
Rather long video when all this needs to be is "Yes. *credits roll*"
Good point. You should also return your hair style to the hairdresser.
Every nation has “lost” treasures.
The thieves don't go around parading the stolen items now do they
@@Brian-bo4bz thrives? Or bartered with locals for goods...
yeah, if you really want to go there you have a loooooooong road ahead of you. You know, coz if you really want to go there, you can make it as ridiculous as you want.... should the US return paintings of famous painters back to the Netherlands? Should New York break down the liberty statue and give it back to France? Should the Lourve return the Mona Lisa to Italy coz Leonardo da Vinci was an Italian? Should the British museum return the marble statue facade of the Parthenon back to Athens? Should the Dutch Rijksmuseum return the ship's mirror of the flagship of the UK back to the UK that they took in their stealth attack in 'rampjaar 1672'? Should the Basilica in Venice give back the 4 horses to Istanbul coz it was from the Hippodrome? Should all the muslims just take a hike out of the Hagia Sophia in Istanbul coz it was a Orthodox Church and not a mosque, should the Vatican return the obelisk on their popular square to Egypt coz it was Egyptian? Should the German museum return the blue gate and wall of Babylon back to Iraq? Should the Pergamon museum give the facade they hold of the greek hellenistic temples back to Greece? Should Germany return the bust of Nephertiti back to Egypt? etc. etc. etc. This to me is a typical marxist 'fair and equal' lunacy that comes out of the US, and you can make it just as ridiculous as all the gender-identity and critical race theory stuff.
@@stijnvdv2 The Statue of Liberty was a gift from France to USA; we didn’t “steal” the Statue of Liberty. Get out of your feelings and get your facts straight.
Truth
Return, what their fore - father's created that you stole.
Let them connect to their past
Looted? Maybe they just bought it?
Exactly, most of the trades including slave trade was introduced to Europe by Africans as part of African cultures... but you don't see them parading that as their heritage they want to respect. If it wasn't for the culture there, Europe would have kept using children
These are all part of human history. Nobody really owns any of these things. They should be free to all the public. Whoever can best facilitate that should be allowed to. Nobody today owns the past.
No, there are rightful owners of these items that were made with people’s hands in certain countries. They need to go back and yes they are owned.
Did you even watch the documentary? There is a part where they showed a handsome African young man who is a direct descendant of the Benin Kingdom. If you understood what he was saying then maybe you would lose some of your arrogance towards other people’s culture.
Criminals
If these efforts go about positively then, there are tons of artifacts that Great Britain, the Portuguese, the French... etc. have to return to India. But one thing, everyone has to admit that these colonizing countries were super powers then, and if they return the artifacts, they are even greator powers today!!
There is no “have to” it’s at the discretion of the country as to whether or not they return something. They don’t have to. There is no international law that dictates the return of colonial artifacts.
lost or stolen!
Neither, Traded.
Yes, but every culture has blood and theft on their hands. So, Americans, give land back to Native Indians, Japan give everything back you took from Koreans, etc.
Yes.
Lost 😂
Stone that doesn’t belong under somebody’s butt in London needs returned
They're probably better preserved and appreciated than they would have otherwise been, though I believe reconciliation is in order. There should be a guarantee that they will be conserved as national property and not just let go into corrupt networks.
"Better preserved and better appreciated ".Really, are you sure... Because quite frankly considering it Africa's and African's heritage, they would be the best people to look after it. Ancestry and heritage and art is a big part of African culture. Also I think it's extremely exploitative for these museums to continue profiting from Africa and Africans like they haven't been doing that for years already.
@@maishawena1997 not to mention if so many African cultures hadn't been usurped and destroyed by colonialism they'd still have a connection to the kind of thought and traditions that can produce such objects of beauty
tl;dr: "Yes." *queue credits*
They will just destroy it somehow
pirates
They were saved not stolen
What type of ideology is that
Just ask nicely, and goodwill will be the response.
Africa should fight for them back
To the victor go the spoils of war
@@Subliminalsapper we will smoke the whole of Europe give us time
@@Brian-bo4bz hahahahahahahaha. Africa? Mate wakanda isn't real stop dreaming.
Ice cream you your CZcams channel is stuck in this CZcams count
can we return the people to
Don't forget the resources too
@@Brian-bo4bz deal
A thief
Yes of course.
Lol, stop refering to Europe and Africa as if those are single entities. Both are continents with >50 countries. England and France want to shoulder their responsibility for stolen items on the whole continent? And in Africa most countries can keep their art in their own museums, while some countries are unstable for decades and cannot, the situation is different in every country
Stolen, not lost.
Frankly if they were returned to Africa I don’t think anyone is going to see them anymore. The point of keeping such relics to to expose them to a wide audience and the best place to put them would be in the most prestigious museums.
So all private art collections should be taken and put in public museums then right?
@@Tardig No
@@motleyzadot6867 I thought you were for exposing relics to a wider audience though?
Looters
@@Tardig These artifacts are already in European museums and have been for over a century. I do not advocate for more artifacts to be taken but whats done is done and these artifacts are in arguably better care and exposure in their current and unaltered state.
Yes, we (the English) have a terrible history with this stuff - The Elgin Marbles, most of Egypt etc.
However, if you consider what happened in Iraq and other areas of the Middle East there is some concern that these things could potentially be destroyed if sent back.
Well its up to the owners to decide...its belongs to them...you have to understand that Europeans stole the artefacts and didn't make them...when you are caught stealing the ethical thing to do is to return what you stole not try to tell the person you stole from they can't take care of the artefacts you found them taking good care of before you stole them
@@Brian-bo4bz So you are ok with irreplaceable artifacts being destroyed so long as they are given back to their country of origin?
@@philgallagher1 given back to their owners...why weren't they destroyed before Europeans invaded and looted them...from where I'm standing unless you guys come to loot them again they will be just fine how they were found
@@philgallagher1 European cultural artefacts are all in Europe so I don't understand why you don't want other people to preserve and celebrate their ancestors and heritage the same way Europeans do...to you its just art to the owners its part of their culture and heritage which connects them to their ancestors
Think you picker a very poor example, maybe do some research? The Elgin Marbles were not stolen, they were purchased legally from the Rulers, they were to be burn to make lime and Lord Elgin saved them.
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you are right Bitcoin trading might make you rich if you are hedge fund with deep pockets or an unusual skilled currency trader After a successful investment you have nothing to worry about, whether the rise and fall of economy won't affect you. Make's your future brighter, by making good investment.
Hello everyone, well if I'm permitted to speak I think Investing right now should be at the top of everyone's list. In 2years you will be ecstatic with the decision you made today! Bitcoin is the most secure run on the largest decentralized computer network in existence..
thanks so much for this comment do you mind sharing his contact so others can benefit too?
@Wayne Vincent would gladly appreciate if you can introduce us to the platform.
He has been able to secure a steady inflow of returns off my Bitcoin, it's just great especially with this whole pandemic situation it's just amazing to find Mr Donald and there's been no regrets ever since.
Keep it until the country is fully stable and someone come and destroy it and sale it. Actually thanks.