Rise and Fall of the Seleucid Empire (Who were the Seleucids?)

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  • History of the Seleucid Empire
    From Alexander the Great, and the empire's foundation by Seleucus till the empire's annexation by ancient Roman Empire.
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    #Ancienthistory #Epimetheus #Seleucid

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  • @blaz2892
    @blaz2892 Před 3 lety +2189

    When you cant decide whether to play as Greece or Persia

    • @perverse_ince
      @perverse_ince Před 3 lety +93

      @@vadergamerboss6660
      Achaemenids, Parthians and Sassanids All ruled from Babylon/Seleucia/Ctesiphon, which is the same general location.

    • @ChevyChase301
      @ChevyChase301 Před 3 lety +38

      Vadergamerboss 66 Apamea was a Persian noblewoman. Antiochus I was 50% Persian

    • @catdogman23
      @catdogman23 Před 3 lety +4

      LOL!

    • @perverse_ince
      @perverse_ince Před 3 lety +14

      >TheSeleucidsWereNotPersianBecauseTheirCapitalWasNotInPersiaGuy deleted his comments out of embarrassment
      jej

    • @arianrezaie4729
      @arianrezaie4729 Před 3 lety +1

      @@cyrusthegreatofpersiairan7569 not really only occasionally

  • @arianrezaie4729
    @arianrezaie4729 Před 3 lety +1969

    Nobody:
    Seleucids: one more civilwar for old times sake🙏

    • @stevemarshall6515
      @stevemarshall6515 Před 3 lety +37

      Lmao I chuckled out loud at this kne

    • @robertsanders7060
      @robertsanders7060 Před 3 lety +7

      If only they had fought others instead of each other...

    • @Lycurgus1982
      @Lycurgus1982 Před 3 lety +41

      @@robertsanders7060 it was Alexander's biggest mistake to not secure a succession line.

    • @arianrezaie4729
      @arianrezaie4729 Před 3 lety +6

      @@Lycurgus1982 well he almost certainly did remember much of what we know about the past has gone trough several layers of propaganda why would anyone what to tell the truth about alexanders succession and also seleukes is under rated he could have fixed every thing why would you think a 30 year old alexander could have done better than this man? He was easly just as capable

    • @Lycurgus1982
      @Lycurgus1982 Před 3 lety +1

      @@arianrezaie4729 there was a fair amount of resentment in the army toward Alexander and his exploits in Persia, but most of his kinsmen loved him. For all of Alexander's qualities, he had an equal amount of personal conflicts as well. Choosing to change from first amongst equals to absolute monarch was deeply troubling to the Macedonian elite and as a result, he was blindsided before he could cement his Dynasty. I'm not sure where your coming from making comparisons to Seleukos. These two men were different in many ways.

  • @celtofcanaanesurix2245
    @celtofcanaanesurix2245 Před 3 lety +1436

    It’s amazing how the Gauls seem to work their way into war with or for every major civilization of antiquity...

    • @AlexanderDiviFilius
      @AlexanderDiviFilius Před 3 lety +291

      It makes Caesar's swift conquest of them all the more impressive, in my books. People often underestimate them, forgetting how much of a genius Caesar was in comparison to literally everyone.

    • @ChevyChase301
      @ChevyChase301 Před 3 lety +74

      Celt of Canaan Esurix Gauls were in the grand armee of Antiochus III and fought in Afghanistan and Pakistan

    • @MrSafior
      @MrSafior Před 3 lety +39

      @@ChevyChase301 Source?
      Anyways I wonder how far the gauls would have go if Seleucos didn't stop them.
      Maybe they would have India or even China!

    • @ChevyChase301
      @ChevyChase301 Před 3 lety +38

      @@MrSafior the Gauls were Seleucid auxiliaries and are recorded in Iran in addition to Persian and cretan. The Seleucid army did not garrison any regions and did not take many loses in Antiochus Anabasis. Logically they would have accompanied anitiochus into Bactria and India but it is not recorded. it is likely Antiochus army was at full strength when entering parapomisadea because the Indian ruler submitted without a fight. The Gauls were definitely not strong enough to mutiny during the expedition as it is recorded at 100,000+ men in the army of mostly greeks

    • @MrSafior
      @MrSafior Před 3 lety +5

      @@ChevyChase301 Do you have source or link to to this record ?

  • @Artur_M.
    @Artur_M. Před 3 lety +708

    "Then the Romans came in and put an end to all the silliness." What a burn at the end!

    • @user-kt1st4uu9x
      @user-kt1st4uu9x Před 3 lety +8

      i know you from some other video...

    • @DoReMi123acb
      @DoReMi123acb Před 3 lety +8

      Can't deny that truth. As a pure and highly credible Roman scholar called Dovahaty says "The absolute shit flinging mess that was Greek politics at the time"

    • @mustardstang573
      @mustardstang573 Před 3 lety +1

      a fellow fan of dova i ser here

    • @anasty_arisaka754
      @anasty_arisaka754 Před 3 lety

      Yeah, same as Mexico...

    • @trajananevski6280
      @trajananevski6280 Před 3 lety

      Antioc Alexandria Pela. United. In Rome.

  • @BiakSkull
    @BiakSkull Před 3 lety +297

    "The reanimated corpse of the kingdom was revived, so they decided to have one last civil war" jesus christ this is halarious

    • @saguntum-iberian-greekkons7014
      @saguntum-iberian-greekkons7014 Před 3 lety +17

      Imagine the state revived for three years instead of 3 days

    • @deBebbler
      @deBebbler Před 2 lety +19

      Yeah, that was unexpected and drew some laughs. The "Seleucid Zombie State" label was a nice touch, too.

  • @petersantos6395
    @petersantos6395 Před 3 lety +1133

    Romans: look at those silly kingdoms in the east with their civil wars, surely we won't be like them

    • @AlexanderDiviFilius
      @AlexanderDiviFilius Před 3 lety +174

      Every remotely ambitious general from the second century BC onwards:
      "I'm gonna do a pro-gamer move"

    • @sushanalone
      @sushanalone Před 3 lety +34

      @ Peter Santos
      .....

    • @asfm2
      @asfm2 Před 3 lety +68

      *The disembodied voice of Diocletian crying out from beyond time and space*

    • @Crafty_Spirit
      @Crafty_Spirit Před 3 lety +5

      @@asfm2 Now D was the size of a top tier Diadocchus

    • @pipebomber04
      @pipebomber04 Před 3 lety +21

      Proceeds to have civil war every month.

  • @thedoruk6324
    @thedoruk6324 Před 3 lety +800

    One of the most *underrated* Empires on the history truly deserved to be covered and uploaded by the Epimetheus!

  • @SarudeDanstorm
    @SarudeDanstorm Před 3 lety +395

    It kind of amazes me how everyone knows about Alexander The Great, but virtually nothing of what happened in the 200-300 years before the rise of Rome, as if his Empire didn't actually live on or anything.

    • @bamtoday
      @bamtoday Před 3 lety +15

      Check out The Storm Before The Storm by Michael Duncan.

    • @Hashishin13
      @Hashishin13 Před 3 lety +47

      Or how Rome is basically taught as a self made empire and not a force that mostly mopped up some older empires that had fallen.

    • @roberttaylor8906
      @roberttaylor8906 Před 3 lety +35

      @@Hashishin13 i think the idea is that while they did take a lot from other cultures, namely Greece, Rome's unified, systematic and bureaucratic organizational approach allowed for an almost industrial uniformity and standard of quality when it came to things like their military and engineering feats. While the engineering feats of the Romans, to my knowledge, don't really stack up to ancient works like the great Pyramid, the expansive Roman networks of roads and aqueducts show what their more unified, industrious approach was able to achieve when compared to the fractured nature of the Greek city-states.

    • @pablosturm6640
      @pablosturm6640 Před 3 lety +12

      @@Hashishin13 lol rome was successful because they had a very efficient slave system. The roman empire was built on the backs of gallic, greek, german, iberian and african slaves. Granted, most other civilizations also used slaves but the romans did so on an industrial scale.

    • @DNC_Patrik
      @DNC_Patrik Před 3 lety

      Well, it fell apart pretty fast

  • @deuratusanimatedhistory10
    @deuratusanimatedhistory10 Před 3 lety +624

    During the Babylonian wars (311-309 BC) when Seleucus was facing Antigonus, the evening put an end to the undecided action; and both armies retreated to their respective camps with intend to renew the conflict the next day. The soldiers of Antigonus put off their arms, and relaxed in their tents. But Seleucus ordered his men to eat, and sleep in their arms, and lie down in order of battle: that they might be ready for action, whenever the charge was sounded. The next day, at break of dawn, the army of Seleucus rose up, already armed and in order, and immediately advanced against the enemy camp. Finding antigonid troops unarmed and disordered, Seleucus gained a swift victory.
    This is my favourite strategem from book 4 of Polyaenus. (it's essencially Polyaenus 4.9.1, edited slightly by me)

    • @deuratusanimatedhistory10
      @deuratusanimatedhistory10 Před 3 lety +24

      @Zen Tao Demetrius Poliorcetes, not because of his tactics or victories (sometimes he was succesful sometimes he was not) but I admire him for his conduct with his enemies as well as for his restless ambitions. He was constantly at war with all kings (except Agathocles) and was constantly campaigning with no rest. For that, he is my favourite man in history

    • @Lycurgus1982
      @Lycurgus1982 Před 3 lety +8

      This was the famous attack against Peithon's army from the east. It was less than three to one odds. What Seleukos did against Antgonus in the west is even more impressive and took some serious stones.

    • @deuratusanimatedhistory10
      @deuratusanimatedhistory10 Před 3 lety +10

      @@Lycurgus1982 You are confusing the events, Peithon son of Crateuas (executed 315 BC) and Peithon son of Agenor (killed in action 312 BC) were both dead by the time of Babylonian wars. (another Peithon son of Sosicles died circa 328 BC). I suppose by "famous attack against Peithon" you mean coalition of satraps from the Upper Satrapies (Peucestas, Sibyrtius, Eudamus the Greek and others) against Peithon son of Crateuas and his brother Eudamus but that was before before 318 BC and Seleucus took no part in it, only later gave refuge to Peithon when he was defeated.

    • @deuratusanimatedhistory10
      @deuratusanimatedhistory10 Před 3 lety

      I checked the coalition from Upper satrapies in Anson 2014 just now. It consisted of: Peucestas, the satrap of Persis, Tlepolemus, the satrap of Carmania, Sibyrtius, satrap of Arachosia, Androbazus, general for Oxyartes, Stasander, the satrap of Areia and Drangiana, Eudamus from India and Amphimachus, the satrap of Mesopotamia.

    • @deuratusanimatedhistory10
      @deuratusanimatedhistory10 Před 3 lety +2

      @Il Bugiardo dell'Umbria If you have no experience with the period nor ancient historians, then it's probably best to start with reading popular history books.
      There is only one book which deals with the whole period of Diadochi wars, it's "Dividing the spoils", and since it covers a large span of time: it sucks as it can be expected. I have read it 2 years ago and I was so dissapointed, it ommits like 90% of history and gives you only the most basic info. It's not even well written. I highly discoruage reading it.
      However there is a book "Ghost on the Throne" by James Romm that covers period 323-316/315 BC (W. Heckel/E. Anson dating) + the Athenian politics 324-318 BC + little throwback to the times of Alexander campaigns. Since it covers smaller part of history: it is quite detailed. James Romm is a fantastic writer. Writing style 10/10, historical content 8/10. You will get a great introduction to main events, you will get very familiar with generals and some higher ranking officers. But obviously it ommits smaller events and less important officers. But after this book you can confidently start reading ancient sources and have a clear idea what is going on.
      The rest of the books I know are not popular history, they are ment to be read when you have a good idea of the period and you are familair with ancient sources.
      You can also read ancient sources directly. Wars of Diadochi has few sources so there is not that much to read. The core is diodorus Siculus books:18,19 and 20 (18th book is almost entirely dedicated to Diadochi, 19th less diadochi, 20th much less diadochi). Plutarch is the biggest secondary source, rest is scattered over multiple smaller sources (some attractive, like surviving fragments of Arrian:Successors or Memnon of Heracleia; some unattractive: like Strabo or Pausanias).
      These ancient historians are public domain, so you can read it online, absolutely for free.
      That's my favourite period of history, if you chose to read ancient sources, I can guide you through it (saying what to read), if you want you can add me on discord: Alcetas#6256

  • @steveb6598
    @steveb6598 Před 3 lety +324

    Indeed one of the most underrated Empires, and one of my personal favorites

    • @kaiza9184
      @kaiza9184 Před 3 lety +4

      May i ask why you prefer Mr Selecus Nikator over the other the other successors ?

    • @SteveSmith-ty8ko
      @SteveSmith-ty8ko Před 3 lety +6

      I liked Ptolemaic Egypt, one of my favorites personally.

    • @vaibhavsinha97
      @vaibhavsinha97 Před 3 lety +8

      @@kaiza9184 I personally like antiochus iv. He not only put a puppet on Ptolemaic throne but was also smart enough to not fight the Romans. By doing this he baught the empire at least another 100 years but sadly he was failed by his successors.

    • @palacehaunter5442
      @palacehaunter5442 Před 3 lety +2

      No it wasb't stop projackulating

    • @ChandraguptMourya-lj8xr
      @ChandraguptMourya-lj8xr Před 3 měsíci

      I m son in law of selucus nicator

  • @georgekosto2737
    @georgekosto2737 Před 3 lety +192

    i am Greek living in Athens, my grandmother is from Seleucia Isauria and this video fashinating me!!

    • @EpimetheusHistory
      @EpimetheusHistory  Před 3 lety +42

      That is a very interesting region of Turkey. I am am glad you like the video :)

    • @mka8869
      @mka8869 Před 3 lety +6

      U know Chandragupta

    • @saeedvazirian
      @saeedvazirian Před 3 lety

      You're Persianised. As usual, Persian influence will never escape you. Never.

    • @juanlamban3715
      @juanlamban3715 Před 3 lety +8

      @@saeedvazirian you make it sound like it is a bad thing.

    • @ComradeHellas
      @ComradeHellas Před 3 lety +13

      @@saeedvazirian Persian influence is insignificant compared to Greek, Latin, Hindu and Mandarin.

  • @MK-dg8gr
    @MK-dg8gr Před 3 lety +125

    Ahh Seleucids. Has mix of best units in RTW (Armoured Elephants, Cataphrats, Chariots, Companion Cavalry, Legionaries, Silver Shield Pikeman) yet always one of first to get destroyed.

    • @emptank
      @emptank Před 3 lety +25

      All of them late game and you start with half your empire made of first tier cities two which can only train peasants. The parthians and Armenians will come at you in the east with horse archers perfectly suited to pick a part your pike men, Greek cities and Pontus in the west, and Egypt in the south. Lose Antioch and it's all but game over. Little wonder the AI can't handle it. Survive though and you might be one of the few factions that can take post reform Romans in a straight fight.

    • @masoudkhosravi2822
      @masoudkhosravi2822 Před 3 lety +1

      helenic lie and bloff history.selusid was not cataphract.they are use helenic war style.but parthians was catapharact cavalry(original knight)and kick ass selucids .

    • @masoudkhosravi2822
      @masoudkhosravi2822 Před 3 lety

      I suggest you read this books parhtian and sasanids rom enemis by peter vilcox.and sasanian elite cavalry by kaveh farrokh

    • @masoudkhosravi2822
      @masoudkhosravi2822 Před 3 lety +1

      @Nomad, O Cavaleiro you are wrong catapharact was mean havy cavalry armor.and Persian was first people in world use them

    • @ImperialGuard322nd
      @ImperialGuard322nd Před 3 lety +11

      @@masoudkhosravi2822 you do know they are talking about a video game called Rome: Total War (RTW), right?

  • @bradm.c.9569
    @bradm.c.9569 Před 3 lety +86

    Probably the most effective use of war elephants outside of India.

    • @loowick4074
      @loowick4074 Před 8 měsíci +2

      Heard a story where an Indian elephant nabbed an enemy king before dumping him at the feet of his own army.
      The enemy king was then beheaded.

  • @timothycook8334
    @timothycook8334 Před 3 lety +147

    The Seleucids always looked like they were trying really really hard to stretch all the way from the Aegean to the Indus and they could only barely do it but it was an inspiring effort.

  • @TheLoyalOfficer
    @TheLoyalOfficer Před 3 lety +503

    Seleucus was a visionary but his empire had bad borders.

    • @orlandogreenhow2870
      @orlandogreenhow2870 Před 3 lety +60

      TheLoyalOfficer Definitely the worst borders of the Diadochi

    • @ChevyChase301
      @ChevyChase301 Před 3 lety +50

      DingoBling check out empire of Antigonus II. Literally just a bunch of coasts and islands

    • @TheLoyalOfficer
      @TheLoyalOfficer Před 3 lety +6

      @@ChevyChase301 Well sure, he sucked too.

    • @ChevyChase301
      @ChevyChase301 Před 3 lety +17

      TheLoyalOfficer Demetrius after Ipsus only had Boetia, Peloponnesus, Cyclades, Ionia, Cyprus and Tyre literally the most disgusting thing.

    • @TheLoyalOfficer
      @TheLoyalOfficer Před 3 lety +3

      @@ChevyChase301 LOL, yes, I hear ya. I'm not saying you're wrong. My comment was about the Seleucid Empire, though.

  • @kriosatimoss6562
    @kriosatimoss6562 Před 3 lety +116

    Great video man. Only thing I'd add is a mention of Antiochus VII Euergetes, one of the most tragic rulers in history. Antiochus was a gifted General, and by all accounts a pretty good guy. He restored huge swathes of territory to the empire during his reign, and had the Parthians on the ropes. He probably could have beaten them too, had he not fallen for a trap that saw him killed in battle. He's one of my favorite historical characters to think "what if" about, and the last Seleucid monarch worthy of the name of his forebear.

    • @christopherhardy8808
      @christopherhardy8808 Před rokem +5

      His defeat obliterated the last Seleukid army. It was this that marks his reign as a tragic failure. Up until then, Syria was able to produce on its own an army of around 60,000 men, but his defeat was so catastrophic that the Syrian population was stunted for a few generations. It was only until Philip I that Syria had a few years to breathe before Tigranes invaded in 75/74

  • @miguelmontenegro3520
    @miguelmontenegro3520 Před 3 lety +56

    Alex: Finally i can relax.
    Death: Nope

  • @dankaxon4230
    @dankaxon4230 Před 3 lety +57

    6:49 crusader kings 3 moment

  • @DurgeshYadav-ip1zr
    @DurgeshYadav-ip1zr Před 3 lety +160

    Badly want to see a movie based on the battle between the Mauryans and the Seleucids!

    • @angusyang5917
      @angusyang5917 Před 3 lety +3

      Isn't there an Bollywood show on this?

    • @DurgeshYadav-ip1zr
      @DurgeshYadav-ip1zr Před 3 lety +23

      @@angusyang5917 no idea, Bollywood is dead BTW!

    • @aromanlegionnair5096
      @aromanlegionnair5096 Před 3 lety +4

      @@DurgeshYadav-ip1zr Really? Aww :( I liked some of their movies, mostly of their special effects 😂 comedy gold!

    • @DurgeshYadav-ip1zr
      @DurgeshYadav-ip1zr Před 3 lety +17

      @@aromanlegionnair5096 there are a lot of good Bollywood movies but lately they just haven't been up to the mark.

    • @Noone-gz8li
      @Noone-gz8li Před 3 lety +1

      @@aromanlegionnair5096 u can watch bajirao mastani

  • @micahclark3606
    @micahclark3606 Před 3 lety +23

    Adding Seleucus to the list of historical people we could be having television about right now.

  • @senselessmacabre7870
    @senselessmacabre7870 Před 3 lety +26

    00:45 Love how you casually put mark of chaos

  • @totalwartimelapses6359
    @totalwartimelapses6359 Před 3 lety +19

    6:46 "what are you doing step-son?"
    Brought to you by Brazzers

  • @gw7120
    @gw7120 Před 3 lety +79

    How Charismatic Alexander had to be to control these guys , because they all wanted to kill each other , he would have been disappointed with them all , they could have had so much more , alternate history time.

    • @12345adambomb
      @12345adambomb Před 3 lety +26

      He couldn't have been that disappointed when they asked him on his deathbed who the empire should go to he said "the strongest"

    • @saguntum-iberian-greekkons7014
      @saguntum-iberian-greekkons7014 Před 3 lety +3

      Even after the Diadochi they could have said: « Look, we are Greek Kings controlling ancient lands, why we don’t work together and accomplish Alexander s’invasion programs? »

    • @tuele4302
      @tuele4302 Před 3 lety +2

      @@12345adambomb Assuming that story is true, the context is missing. What did Alexander mean by that? How would such a person be selected?

    • @12345adambomb
      @12345adambomb Před 3 lety +7

      @@tuele4302 its probably a mistranslation/ legend to enforce the legitimacy of the successors. What Alexander actually said was "Hoti to kratisto" so some people think they just misheard him and he was trying to say the empire goes to Cassander his lifelong friend and general. But it's way to good of a legend to not repeat.

    • @12345adambomb
      @12345adambomb Před 3 lety +9

      @@tuele4302 alternatively if he really did mean to say "to the strongest" he was probably just bitter he didn't get to rule over his great empire. An "if I can't have it no one can" situation.

  • @SeleucidArgyraspide
    @SeleucidArgyraspide Před 3 lety +22

    Iv been fascinated with the Seleucid Empire for a long time, but iv not been able to get much info on them. So im glad you made this video explaining the timeline in more detail.

    • @theodorospadelidis6537
      @theodorospadelidis6537 Před 2 lety

      i own a greco turkish friendship discord server if you want to join send me your account

    • @apresmidi153
      @apresmidi153 Před 7 měsíci

      There's a biography of Antiochus III that has a lot of good info in it and covers a lot of the events of this video.

  • @Alex-mn1fb
    @Alex-mn1fb Před 3 lety +29

    Loved this one... I love Ancient History but in the recent years the Hellenistic Era really started to fascinate me. All these great men and women, proclaiming themselves gods on earth, commanding armies and empires, ultimately for nothing, as their world ended up divided between Romans and Parthians. Culturally, however, it was the setting stage for our modern world. Science, philosophy, art, even religion, as both Judaism and Christianity, all of them shaped in that melting pot of chaos :)

    • @Alex-mn1fb
      @Alex-mn1fb Před 2 lety

      @Red SITH what's your point?

    • @Alex-mn1fb
      @Alex-mn1fb Před 2 lety +1

      @Red SITH Good one, except that the greatest centers of Jewish diaspora and early Christian thought were thoroughly Hellenized centers like Alexandria and Antioch, in fact Septuagint was translated to Greek during the Ptolemies, and despite the great conflicts between Hellenized Jews and the Orthodox ones, and the unsuccessful and violent attempts at Hellenization, the Jews were thoroughly immersed in the Hellenistic culture of the age, both during the actual Hellenistic and later Roman era. The Greek influence was felt long after their political power failed, thats why it is still important. Theirs was a secondary language in the Roman empire, it was even used by the Parthians long after the Seleucids, also in Bactria and Northwest India. it was the language of science, their conventions of architecture were influential for the entire Mediterranean world AND the east. Look at the ruins of Palmyra or Petra, with clearly Greek columns, long after the last Greek kingdoms fell.. And I'm not even going to joke about the influence of Greek on Christianity. From the first Bibles being in Greek, first Christian communities being Greek, to the neoplatonists looking for inspiration in works Plato , to the art and architecture of Byzantine empire. As I said, both religions had their development in the melting pot that was the Hellenistic age. Christianity had its roots directly, while Jewish history was definitely shaped by it to a great degree.

    • @Alex-mn1fb
      @Alex-mn1fb Před 2 lety

      @Red SITH Lol what are you talking about? :D I did not say that Hellenization or Hellenistic RELIGIONS influenced them I said they were built or changed, influenced and shaped by the Hellenistic AGE in which they existed. Read about the Jewish Hanukkah and how its origins are strictly tied to the political landscape of the age. The Jewish national and religious identity was forged by the Ptolemaic and Seleucid attempts to conquer and control their lands, the day to day politics of that age shaped the religion as we know it today. And the earliest communities of Christians were also Greek, most of cities mentioned by the Bible that are not in the Holy Land are Greek and Hellenised cities like Ephesus, Thessaloniki and Corinth and many others. And Greek being one of the first languages of the Bible.

  • @jason4275
    @jason4275 Před 3 lety +23

    Seleucids Now that's a guy you would want to go back in time and watch his entire life.

  • @Vulcaani
    @Vulcaani Před 3 lety +15

    I enjoy Seleucid empire immensely for some reason! Thank you very much, this was great!

  • @benhayward2597
    @benhayward2597 Před 3 lety +21

    One of the periods I've always wanted to know about, thanks!

  • @alexburke4569
    @alexburke4569 Před 3 lety +21

    I absolutely love this channel. I wish you could cover the Bronze Age more but I understand there is only so much to cover. Anyways amazing work thank you!!!

  • @LuisAldamiz
    @LuisAldamiz Před 3 lety +72

    Awesome documentary! I'd say "as always" but I'd lie: it's even better. TY.

    • @EpimetheusHistory
      @EpimetheusHistory  Před 3 lety +7

      Glad you liked it Luis :D

    • @arthasmenethil7208
      @arthasmenethil7208 Před 3 lety +5

      @@EpimetheusHistory adding jokes inbetween your narration like oversimplified or historia civilis really adds up to the quality of the video.Keep up the great work!

    • @shashwatsinha2704
      @shashwatsinha2704 Před 3 lety +1

      I thought your portrait was stalin. Then I looked closely. Who is it?

    • @LuisAldamiz
      @LuisAldamiz Před 3 lety +1

      @@shashwatsinha2704 - Myself some years ago.

    • @shashwatsinha2704
      @shashwatsinha2704 Před 3 lety +1

      @@LuisAldamiz Oh, great. You genuinely look like a businessman-philospher.

  • @Seruvius
    @Seruvius Před 3 lety +32

    For anyone else confused about the helmet, it is apparently a dashing combination of leopard skin and the horns and ears of a bull.
    Why that particular getup you ask? Allow me to quote in detail: "The obverse of this tetradrachm [a silver coin] bears an image of the deified Alexander the Great. He wears a helmet covered with leopard skin and adorned with a bull’s horns and ear. All of these are attributes of Dionysus, the god of wine but also of eternal life, who rode about on a leopard and could transform himself into a bull. According to myth, Dionysus conquered India through his mysterious power; thus Alexander, who conquered parts of India by force of arms, could be seen as a second Dionysus. The coin type is yet more complex, because the issuer of this coin, Seleucus I, had repeated Alexander’s exploit of campaigning in western India. Thus he could claim to be a third Dionysus and a second Alexander, and this is undoubtedly implied by the heroic image."

    • @istvansipos9940
      @istvansipos9940 Před 3 lety +1

      - here, great king. for these reasons, you need such a helmet. it will serve your political ambitions perfectly.
      - yes........... But it still looks ridiculous... Oh, F it!

    • @Marcusjnmc
      @Marcusjnmc Před 3 lety

      thanks

  • @andrewbatist6355
    @andrewbatist6355 Před 3 lety +141

    "them the romans told them to leave egypt alone. so he did."

    • @andrewbatist6355
      @andrewbatist6355 Před 3 lety +6

      @Zen Tao i would pay to see this alternate timeline. i wonder who the mongols would fight in this region some day

    • @andrewbatist6355
      @andrewbatist6355 Před 3 lety

      @Zen Tao could you explain your theory on how christian cruzaders would made to southeast asia ?

    • @andrewbatist6355
      @andrewbatist6355 Před 3 lety

      @Zen Tao yes ! i absolutely agree with you. christian feudal middle easteners would be occupying mesopotamia and the surroundings down into the middle ages until the mongols crush their positions there. i was only confused about the :" and maybe fight crusaders in australia and indonesia "

    • @andrewbatist6355
      @andrewbatist6355 Před 3 lety

      @Zen Tao well. the cruzaders where so much more distant. not like that would be a problem for experienced knights, i mean look how further north the teutonics went. but the cruzaders had many hadaches arround canaã and spain to care about that distant arquipelago until the age of navigation. anyhow i loved your theory.. imagine if zeng he´s fleet was not burned in this timeline too. the landscape of the whole middle east would be very curious.

    • @andrewbatist6355
      @andrewbatist6355 Před 3 lety

      @Zen Tao they could. the question for me is they would ? and left eastern europe vunerable to steppe nomads of the north. yes they have fortifications in mesopotamia by now. so possibly a very bold christian leader may had insisted on leading troops to indonesia.

  • @andrewmartin9379
    @andrewmartin9379 Před 3 lety +17

    Gotta love ancient history that intersects both Alexander and Rome.
    P.S. your style seems to be getting more recognizable and enjoyable to watch if you catch my drift. Great stuff. Keep goin.

  • @R3GARnator
    @R3GARnator Před 3 lety +29

    This was a lot easier to understand than Kings and Generals Diodochi Wars series.

    • @shorewall
      @shorewall Před 3 lety +31

      I think that's because this channel has a higher level view, focusing on the big picture. While K&G dives deeper into battles and moments in time.

  • @ShahStark
    @ShahStark Před 3 lety +65

    Romans And Parthians be like: it’s free real estate

  • @omarbradley6807
    @omarbradley6807 Před 3 lety +7

    Finally. A video of the Seleucids who cover Seleucus's reign after Ipsus, like when he conquer european lands. Great job and video

    • @ChevyChase301
      @ChevyChase301 Před 3 lety +1

      severely understudied as coins minted during his European conquest were found as far as Romania meaning he had firm control for a short time

  • @lukezuzga6460
    @lukezuzga6460 Před 3 lety +5

    Great job EP, one of my favorites videos that has come along in awhile! Great artwork and perfect History!

  • @leopoldopetrieska6564
    @leopoldopetrieska6564 Před 3 lety +5

    fascinating video. love how it cover the kinda blind spot between alexander's conquest and roman dominance in the near est and persia.
    looking forward to more of this type of content, is really needed.

  • @AncientHistoryGuy
    @AncientHistoryGuy Před 3 lety +16

    My favorite successor kingdom! Also, the subject of my most viewed video on my channel haha! Love the artwork as usual mate!

    • @EpimetheusHistory
      @EpimetheusHistory  Před 3 lety +5

      Mine too! Old one eye and his son is probably my second favorite.

    • @AncientHistoryGuy
      @AncientHistoryGuy Před 3 lety +2

      @@EpimetheusHistory Mine too!

    • @Crafty_Spirit
      @Crafty_Spirit Před 3 lety +1

      Eumenes will probably always remain my favourite... who else defeated Seleucos and Antigonus in battle? Only treason would bring his downfall.

    • @Crafty_Spirit
      @Crafty_Spirit Před 3 lety +4

      But I reckon we all agree on whom to like the least... Cassander 😌

    • @christianenglert1620
      @christianenglert1620 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Crafty_Spirit him or Ptolemy Keraunos

  • @christopherhardy8808
    @christopherhardy8808 Před 3 lety +33

    YEEEEEESSSSSS!!!! liked before add was over! As implied by my name, I am a Seleucid fanboy

  • @Craig144_1
    @Craig144_1 Před 3 měsíci +3

    This is a perfect video to study along with the biblical book of Daniel chapter 11!

  • @pankratoshellas183
    @pankratoshellas183 Před 3 lety +3

    I am so glad that Epimetheus showed the Mosaic of Alexander!!!... thank you for doing that!!! 👍🇬🇷👍

    • @EpimetheusHistory
      @EpimetheusHistory  Před 3 lety +1

      I believe that the Mosaic of Alexander is the most accurate depiction of him :)

  • @SpencerSmith-rz8pm
    @SpencerSmith-rz8pm Před 2 lety

    You continue to both engage and learn me something good. Thanks for all you do. This one really fills in the gaps of history I've always wanted to know about.

  • @issith7340
    @issith7340 Před 3 lety +6

    Wow!! I’m greek and i still didn’t know exactly what happened there. You compressed them perfectly, without loosing the flow. Cause it’s a very complicated period!!

  • @brazy8427
    @brazy8427 Před 3 lety +5

    This channel simply does not miss. It would be cool to learn about the other successor kingdoms as well.

  • @DCM68W
    @DCM68W Před 3 lety +4

    a very informative, well edited, and drily humorous overview

  • @samuelseabrook2891
    @samuelseabrook2891 Před 3 lety +2

    always such amazing content, please keep up the good work and keep digging for more interesting historical settings!

  • @illerac84
    @illerac84 Před 3 lety +84

    The Romans certainly don't have time for any silliness.

  • @rajbagwe3732
    @rajbagwe3732 Před 3 lety +5

    Great art and map. Seleucid Empire is very undercovered. Waiting for more videos. Love from India.

  • @AverytheCubanAmerican
    @AverytheCubanAmerican Před 3 lety +30

    And right over here, Alexander just had the idea of conquering the entire Persian empire. It's a great idea. He was...Great, and now he's dead. Hopefully, the rest of the gang will be able to share the empire evenly between them.

    • @grimgoreironhide9985
      @grimgoreironhide9985 Před 3 lety +3

      *sarcasm intensifies*

    • @adilsheikh843
      @adilsheikh843 Před 3 lety

      Knock knock Its Chandra gupta. He says get the hell out of here . Will you get the hell out of here if I give you 500 elephants. Ok thnx bye.
      Time to CONQUER ALL OF INDIAAAA !!

    • @adilsheikh843
      @adilsheikh843 Před 3 lety +1

      @CARNAGE !!!
      Just search Histroy of entire world I guess by Willy brutz and then spend your lazy ass time in watching that 19min vidio and only after that you are eligible in replying me.

  • @davidsending
    @davidsending Před 3 lety +2

    Happy to see another video from you! Thank

  • @cooolbigguy
    @cooolbigguy Před 3 lety +1

    Great video! Didnt know much about the period between the wars of the diadochi and roman conquest of the region, I'm glad you made this video to fill the gap. Love the humor in it too

  • @savioblanc
    @savioblanc Před 3 lety +5

    Those war elephants sent by the Indian Emperor turned out to be the best trade deal ever

    • @zuboy4272
      @zuboy4272 Před 3 lety +7

      1 greek princess < 500 trained war elephants !

    • @savioblanc
      @savioblanc Před 3 lety +1

      @@zuboy4272 To paraphrase and change that Trump quote
      "This has been the best trade deal in the history of trade deals, maybe ever"

    • @ShubhamMishrabro
      @ShubhamMishrabro Před 3 lety +3

      Welcome

  • @celestialweaver8460
    @celestialweaver8460 Před 3 lety +3

    Not many people have done videos on the Suluecids, so it makes me even happier to see your video^_^

  • @Ianassa91
    @Ianassa91 Před 3 lety

    I really like your videos. Great drawings, narration, tempo and they are very informative.

  • @setflavius8049
    @setflavius8049 Před 3 lety +1

    Been waiting for this one for a long time. Very nice

  • @Danymok
    @Danymok Před 3 lety +15

    Hellenic Emperors had quite a habit of dying unexpectedly.

    • @DNC_Patrik
      @DNC_Patrik Před 3 lety +1

      Guess they even took that from Alex

  • @trondsi
    @trondsi Před 3 lety +9

    I always feel as if the Seleucids get a bad rap because of the interactions they had with Rome (where most of our sources comes from). Many dynasties and empires in the region lasted shorter periods and had less influence. The founder was also evidently pretty badass :)

  • @gabrielluizdasilva4439
    @gabrielluizdasilva4439 Před 3 lety +2

    Great content ! Simple and objective on the explanation !

  • @Crusaderjack
    @Crusaderjack Před 3 lety

    I know this is an older video, but I recently found this channel and I love it. Really helps get my gears goin when im worldbuilding.

  • @papaianiuarmy3111
    @papaianiuarmy3111 Před 3 lety +7

    one of my favourite channels keep posting man :)))))

  • @kostasyian4788
    @kostasyian4788 Před 3 lety +9

    Great video! Seleucus died EXACTLY 2300 years ago! How many times during the wars of the Diodochi a small event could change the world's history? If only Alexander's empire could stay united...

  • @rmpj13
    @rmpj13 Před 3 lety +1

    Excellent synopsis, great information, very entertaining, subscriber earned.

  • @Noobfantasy
    @Noobfantasy Před 3 lety +1

    Amazing work.Thanks Epimetheus

  • @ADrunkBassist
    @ADrunkBassist Před 3 lety +5

    *Gauls* : "RUMBLE!!"
    *Indian War Elephant* : Exists
    *Gauls* : "Fk...."

  • @futsolder4136
    @futsolder4136 Před 3 lety +3

    who the heck gave Epimetheus the right to make videos with nearly lethal levels of awesomeness???

  • @tamaveirene
    @tamaveirene Před 2 měsíci

    Brilliant video...just what we needed to get the facts without the fluff! Thank you. I have shared and shall subscribe. Great Respect from this Australian 🔥🔥🔥❣️

  • @michaelpresley2624
    @michaelpresley2624 Před 3 lety

    Great video Epimetheus. Would love to see you do a video like this on Ptolemaic Egypt.

  • @zsupersaiyan
    @zsupersaiyan Před 3 lety +3

    Judea was a small region steadily growing in power since the bronze age, and this was their moment of glory. Fascinating

  • @Punaeased
    @Punaeased Před 3 lety +4

    This channel is legendary

  • @felta4390
    @felta4390 Před 3 lety +2

    Discovered your channel a few weeks ago and I'm in love with your content! Very informative on such fascinating topics! I am definitely subbing + notify belling ur channel, keep it up! 💜

  • @antoinebrgt
    @antoinebrgt Před 3 lety +1

    Amazing vid as usual, thanks!

  • @ChiGyu620
    @ChiGyu620 Před rokem +6

    Thanks for this video. Considering its size and importance, the Seleucid Empire seems to get very little coverage in media. It seems to be the most neglected of the successor kingdoms.

  • @Crafty_Spirit
    @Crafty_Spirit Před 3 lety +9

    😁😁😁 I've been waiting for a skilled content creator to adress this story. So far I've found only bad or mediocre videos regarding this subject on youtube. But hey, we are talking about roughly 150 years of Hellenic rule in the heartland of the first civilisations and empires! It wasn't all Iranian, Arabic, and Turkic overlords.

  • @Theocloud
    @Theocloud Před 3 lety +1

    Great video ! I love your channel btw

  • @farajaraf
    @farajaraf Před 3 lety +1

    Beautiful video as usual.

  • @theonlygoodlookinghabsburg2081

    The humour of these videos never disappoints.

  • @VanaeCavae
    @VanaeCavae Před 3 lety +4

    I hope you can do an video about the spread of Buddhism within the Greek colonies in the east.
    Even ancient Greek writers wrote about Buddhist missionaries in Greece proper.

  • @BrianelSuperMacho
    @BrianelSuperMacho Před 3 lety +1

    Fun video! Thanks for making it :)

  • @mukul039
    @mukul039 Před 3 lety

    I enjoy your videos a lot. Thank you.

  • @user-zz8ll5ry7r
    @user-zz8ll5ry7r Před 3 lety +11

    Thank you for this video! There are only a few documentaries on the Seleucid Empire. I couldn't find resources in Greek, either. I must say it has been largely neglected -not only underrated- as a "Diadochi" State. It would be nice to include its flag [the one that is like a reversed anchor]

    • @omarbradley6807
      @omarbradley6807 Před 3 lety +1

      maybe because it is considered an "Eastern empire", rather than a "Western empire", but in eastern history they are very well covered, as they are looked as Iranians, Iraqiac, Syrians, Afghans, Turkmenic, etc

    • @user-zz8ll5ry7r
      @user-zz8ll5ry7r Před 3 lety +3

      @@omarbradley6807 So, even in eastern historiography, the hellenized [Greek] character of the ruling class of that Empire is largely downsized? It was a multiethnic Empire, but some parts of its culture had a Greek/Hellenistic influence, that even the Parthians that conquered much of its lands kept for some time after the conquest of Iran [the Arsacids are said to have enjoyed theater, a staple part of Greek culture].

    • @omarbradley6807
      @omarbradley6807 Před 3 lety +3

      @@user-zz8ll5ry7r Of course who the Macedonian/Thracian/Greek influence helped the empire, but, the people from the "Western world" ignored the Seleucids, because they where, an advanced society, in the east. while in the eastern cultures it is knowed who the royal family was kind of a Macedonian/Sogdian, Macedionian/Epirote, Macedonian/Seleucid dynasty, the Satrapies where under the local kings, or Shas, that is why the Seleucids where Basileus but also Shanahashas, (kings of kings)

    • @pantelispantelis1820
      @pantelispantelis1820 Před 3 lety

      @@user-zz8ll5ry7r discord.gg/Yj2yusGHqU

    • @saeedvazirian
      @saeedvazirian Před 3 lety

      That's because only Persians ruled Persia. Suck it.

  • @pozzowon
    @pozzowon Před 3 lety +18

    9:28 Antiochus III made the Seleucid empire Great Again!
    #MSGA

    • @BamBamGT1
      @BamBamGT1 Před 3 lety +1

      And then he fucked it up completely and set in motion it's decline and fall. They should have won the decicive battle againt the Romans, and this would have changed history completely, with the Seleucids becoming the dominant force in Greece, rather than the Romans. But no, after his right flank cavalry broke the roman flank, they decided to go raid the roman camp, while the main army was still engaged in battle, and with some bad luck involved ended up losing. If he had swung around the cav and hit the romans from behind, they would have won.

    • @wankawanka3053
      @wankawanka3053 Před 2 lety +1

      @@BamBamGT1 really shoukd have given hannibal command of the land force

    • @Ivan-bk9xs
      @Ivan-bk9xs Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@BamBamGT1what greed does to a mf

  • @tonihokkan9808
    @tonihokkan9808 Před 3 lety +1

    I very appreciate this episode!

  • @richardcharay7788
    @richardcharay7788 Před 3 lety +1

    Enjoyed! Pls continue.

  • @chucknorris202
    @chucknorris202 Před 3 lety +4

    Finally!! Ive been waiting for a video on the seluecid empire for a LONG time now.
    Can you do one on Lysimmachus? He is the diadochi I know the least about, in pretty much everything. I cant think of any notable achievements of his besides dying gloriously in battle even at an old age.
    Keep doing videos on and around this time period. The Classical period, the Hellenistic period/diadochi period, the Roman Period(republican and imperial), and so on. I also wanna see a video on the various Macedonian diadochi armies composition and training and equipment, and general battle tactics. Because I KNOW that Seleucis' not only used the standard Macedonian Sarissa Wielding heavy infantry pikemen as the heart of his army(like alexander and the other diadochi), but I also know that he had more of a variety of Troops than ANY other faction in his time....he had plenty of Gaulish Mercenaries during the batttle of Ipsus which he lost. The elephants too but you covered that, but not in a tactical way. He had plenty of REGULAR classical style hoplites too; Warriors with BIG Round shields and a one handed 8-9 foot spear and a Sword as a backup. He had countless slingers and archers and other missile troops, archers esp due to his persian subjects that were capable of being warriors all specialized in the bow and in hit and run tactics, the European warriors focus on melee hand to hand combat, for the most part. The cavalry of this time was also shockingly advanced...in fact I say they didnt get this good cavalry again in the Ancient world until hundreds of years later in the time of Julius Caesar(consistently this good I mean)...and Macedonian cavalry was the precursor to byzantine cavalry, therefore the precursor to knightly cavalry, they were early cataphracts, armored men on armored horses wielding lances and swords(and small shields too it seems). They let the persians and mercenaries handle the horse archery and similar ways of fighting.
    This is actually a very big topic. I'd like to see a breakdown of ALL of the Diadochi's military forces and ideal tactics.

  • @Nihoolious
    @Nihoolious Před 3 lety +7

    Such an underappreciated period of history. Not much mainstream coverage of it and the only Paradox grand strategy game that covers the era is awful too.

  • @m.a.9571
    @m.a.9571 Před 3 lety +1

    Nice to see another epimitheus video

  • @Red1Napoleon
    @Red1Napoleon Před 3 lety

    Great video like always

  • @benerdick_cumberbiatch
    @benerdick_cumberbiatch Před 3 lety +3

    I'm not one to dabble with classical antiquity, instead focusing on other subjects.
    But I've been intrigued by the Seleucid empire, ever since I saw king Arthur (2004).
    This video both satisfies that curiosity and completely surpasses my expectations of just how interesting the Seleucid's were.

  • @makky6239
    @makky6239 Před 3 lety +13

    "Then the Romans tell them to let Egypt alone, so they did"
    Lol

  • @Azwan1415
    @Azwan1415 Před 3 lety +1

    This was amazing, thank you

  • @didierdenice7456
    @didierdenice7456 Před 3 lety +1

    Excellent ! Thank you for sharing ! 👍

  • @bitcodelabs4660
    @bitcodelabs4660 Před 3 lety +5

    Man Alexander couldn't even enjoy a 5-minute break?

  • @33ttips
    @33ttips Před 3 lety +3

    Love it, hit my blind spot..

  • @RZA491
    @RZA491 Před 2 lety

    It’s a clear presentation. I learned a lot!

  • @martynparkman6336
    @martynparkman6336 Před 3 lety

    Great vid, learnt stuff, thanks.

  • @Eshanas
    @Eshanas Před 3 lety +10

    Seluecus deserves a good, accurate movie.

    • @LuisAldamiz
      @LuisAldamiz Před 3 lety +2

      Absolutely!

    • @rob6927
      @rob6927 Před 3 lety +2

      Wars of the Diadochi should have a Game of Thrones like series.

    • @arturoroldan4839
      @arturoroldan4839 Před 3 lety

      Knowing how fucking subversive Hollywood is, we will end up with another aberration like the Alexander movie.

    • @istvansipos9940
      @istvansipos9940 Před 3 lety +1

      history is exactly like that, yes. If Hollywood picked 1 interesting topic of history each year, they'd still never run outa topics

  • @megaponful
    @megaponful Před 3 lety +11

    I have never been so early in a video before in my entire life.

  • @jhonfaith3122
    @jhonfaith3122 Před 3 lety +1

    Pretty cool info and explaining God bless u 😁🙏

  • @angquangtruong360
    @angquangtruong360 Před 3 lety +1

    awesome vid man