Apple’s Strange Rhapsody OS on a 1997 ThinkPad
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Today we're installing Rhapsody for Intel on the most compatible and powerful possible laptop - the ThinkPad 765L!
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#Rhapsody #ThinkPad #NeXTSTEP - Věda a technologie
having hte keyboard open like the hood of a car is absolutely genius design for ease of maintenance. You can have it open to work on, then turn it on briefly to test it, without having to turn it over and throw in screws.
You may like the Framework Laptop 16
@@ckingpro I'm aware of framework, and while I'm not exactly unhappy with the design, I wouldn't say its necessarily where we should be headed. Mostly, cause while it is standardised to itself, it is not an industry standard, and likely never will be, because it clearly relies on repeat buyers of their ecosystem to be profitable. It's not really the same kind of modularity we had with older swappable components like pc cards, express cards, conventional socketed CPUs, and mobile gpu slots.
And I thought I had many PCMCIA/PC-CARD ethernet dongles!
@@curvingfyre6810right to repair is a human right. stop defending big companies.
Wait... what ?
I'd like to see the laptop hood come back in modern laptops, would be so nice for getting inside lol
was the Framework laptop of the 90s
Haha - no problem, we just all have to get onboard with carrying 2-3” thick laptops again.
I'd be down for that....for someone like me who likes to tinker with computers, but not an expert in anyway, this just made life so much easier
Framework 16
Lol! No, it won't happen. Soon laptops will be filled with epoxy, because a repair prevents a replacement (sale)!
this channel is always at the bleeding edge of advancing the retro computing state of the art
This Rhapsody video was suite! A true symphony for the eyes. Thank you for orchestrating it!
I laughed :D
I just love the ever-growing crossover between the tech enthusiast community and the car enthusiast community.
Man that laptop is *unhinged* !
Get it because it has a hi-
It's possible your 3C589 card and PCMCIA slot are fine, the OpenStep/Rhaposody Etherlink III driver works but can't do media detection, so unless you've hard-set some options on the card it won't see the cable. You need to use a DOS setup utility to set the media select in the EEPROM, then it will work.
I have a ThinkPad 560E that I run OpenStep4.2 on (It's just like the MacWorld 97 machines!), from which I learned that the hard way.
The NetBSD 3c589 driver from 5.1 - the last version that could boot from 2 floppies - can do runtime media selection, but it won't persist through a power cycle.
(I think this comment is being eaten by automatic moderation because I put a link to my own findings on this; I've tired to post twice and it keeps not sticking. Trying again without the link.)
Gotta love an old IBM thinkpad from the late 90s to early 2000s
I think I get the love for these now!
So cool! I've got a 760ED buried in storage somewhere... pretty sure I have the external floppy case too! That machine started a life-long ThinkPad obsession. I believe it's on the OpenStep HCL as well. Fun to see some of these "projects" I've been putting off for years come to life on your channel!
The thing I miss the most is being able to go into a laptop without having to almost break the thing.
Almost break it? You must have mad spudging skillz.
Absolutely love watching your videos every Saturday, and it was so nice to see you again at the VCF Swap Meet! Can't wait to see what "totally normal" computing shenanigans await you in the future!
It's funny how replacing the screen on a thinkpad hasn't changed much after almost 30 years
You missed that the keyboard can also tilt up when you open the screen, there are two levers near the top of the keyboard on either side. Depending on how you put the levers you can disable this, which appears to have been done on this laptop.
IBM thinkpads bring back a lot of memories. Great install. Love seeing those NeXT inspired windows! 😊
needs to be a NeXT Linux distro
i just purchased this laptop so fast on ebay, thanks action retro
Haha nice!
It’s amazing how laptop screen bezels got larger (by a lot) in the 2000s and then smaller again in the 2010s
A user serviceable, modular laptop in 1997... We've abandoned this to make them "lighter and thinner" as if someone need to put a laptop in his pocket.
To be entirely fair, light laptops are pretty nice. Those late 90s chonkers are too big. But we should have light AND modular AND serviceable laptops, not one or the other. If needed, add *some* width, there's no real need to go ultra thin.
@@elu9780 framework! That brand has released and sells some heavily impressive modular laptop systems!!
@@elu9780 Framework wants a talk with you.
"quirks and features"
But we gotta know, what's the DougScore of this beautiful ThinkPad?
Cats and dogs, living together...
Nice. I installed Openstep 4.2 on my Thinkpad 380D (with working battery) recently, audio works through SoundBlaster Pro compatibility.
About a year ago, I found one of these (or one VERY similar) at a flea market without the power supply. It apparenely came from a local TV station. I pulled the hard drive and looked it over thinking I'd find videos and other TV related things, I didn't. I think It was running windows 95, and was running some type of software that allowed it to work from and store everything on a server.
Rhapsody is my 2nd fav old OS next to BeOS
Very nice video as always. Where did you find the screen?
MMmmmm, that Platinum window style goodness. So good, I use a Platinum UI visual style on Windows to this day.
I saw a few of those Thinkpads when I worked in a laptop shop. Absolute joy to work on. If one of those was broken, it had flown off the roof of a car or something. They were tanks.
So…since it’s running on an IBM product, and IBM is “Big Blue”….is this “Rhapsody in Blue”? If you used that joke, I haven’t gotten to it in the video yet. 😂
anybody searching "Rhapsody in Blue" would not be disappointed in viewing this video
Rhapsody on Big Blue…
I would love this one even before OS X…
I've always been a huge fan of the 700 series thinkpad laptops because of that wonderful modular design..they sure don't make em like they used to
Yeah, it's a shame really. Soldering stuff straight to the board to save a few cents but not pass that savings to the customers and all that.
Imagine if laptops still had socketed CPUs plus also got GPUs that could be slotted in. It would truly be magnificent.
Next time for the "Quirks and features" reference, I would play the ding dong sound from Doug's little intro as well. hahahahahahahaha Maybe even have the dot bounce LOL.
“THIIIIS is an IBM Thinkpad 765L!”
HAHAHA@@NielsPaul Big news! This actual thinkpad is for sale on...
Check out “computers and bids”
I was able to get Rhapsody DR2 running in Virtualbox at some point. Driver support wasn't the best, but it was functional for the most part.
If memory serves correct, for bootable system Floppys there was a generic internal CD-ROM Driver from ATAPPI, and a generic external CD-ROM Driver from IOMEGA. Both can be found on the system CD installation disc for Norton Ghost.
IBM were ahead of the game with how modular that laptop is
Really love this laptop thanks to that! Apple's PowrerBook G3 "Pismo" copied ThinkPad a bit: you could remove the keyboard so easy with no tools and then get access to RAM, HDD and stuff. Maybe you could take away the keyboard on "Lombard" also. It's not about who's best or first. Just wanted to point out that around those years, the laptops were so nice. Thicker yes, but so nice!
I like this Gui. In fact, on Linux I've been using Wmaker for years, and still use it sometimes on small computers :))
Action Retro loves his new daily driver! 🙂
The three best laptops of that era were Thinkpads, Sony Vaios, and Powerbooks. I had all three, loved all three.
Quirks and features? Doug Demuro has entered the chat
I had back in the days a ThinkPad 365XD with a similar design, but a bit lower end. I remember the CD drive was a CD-ROM drive. It could only read CD-ROM and not burned CD-R, at all.
What did u do with the suse cd?
Listening to a recording of yourself on camera and being totally okay with it is such a flex
Original Title: Building a 1997 Rhapsody Hackintosh
This is amazing. I had such high hopes for Rhapsody at the time. Was so disappointed that it didn't develop into a real product for PCs. Although, in retrospect, what did I expect it to actually be? 🤷♂️
i have an hp elitebook that opens similarly. just push the switch to remove the back panel and you have access to all the important parts. i wish more laptops incorporated that sort of design.
Sean did you get my email a few weeks ago? Anyways off topic, cool looking video, watching it in a minute!!
One should be able to hot swap the cd rom and floppy, there is a switch on the lid when open the bios will switch off circuit and resume when you close the lid
Hi Shawn; what electric screwdriver did you use for this and other recent video?
Wonder how it's run on my Thinkpad 770 from around the same time. Came out in 1997 but does have a single USB port
perfect form factor
"Quirks and Features" . . . Were you watching some Doug DeMuro earlier? ;) great vid man as usual!
It's the most un-Apple like Apple laptop - thick, black and easy to open with a multitude of ports on its edges.
I want to do this to my thinkpad - where do I get the best ISO for Rhapsody for Intel? Any what was actually on the floppy disks?
We had a Rasphody OS computer in my house around that time. I think I was the only one who ever used it. I was just a young kid back then, so there wasn't any novelty that I could appreciate.
Great video. But all I can think of is the picture of Steve Jobs flipping off the IBM sign in New York. Lol…
I'd love to find one of those era of Thinkpad
Great video. I used your image at Macintosh Garden to put on Virtual PC 5. But trying to change the resolution and it's asking for root password. What is it, or how can I change it? I indend to get a ThinkPad on eBay or maybe a Powermac G3 to run Rhapsody, what has been your best experience (ThinkPad looks like you enjoyed it with the sound recording you made). Thanks,
macOS Catalina also was released for off the shelf pcs
Absolutely no one:
This guy: 👋🤚🖐✋👈👌
I had one of those in the early 2000’s I finished doom 2 on it 😅
The add hardware dialog at 11:20 says "NEXTSTEP" instead of Rhapsody :D
Very cool. This is before Apple's lick-able GUIs.
Now I want to see if I can get this running on my Thinkpad 385xd...
1:42 Doug is smiling!
I’m using a ThinkPad T480 running macOS 13.6.1 Ventura.
can you tare off the menues in rhapsody?
Don't forget the IrDA receiver on the back! hahah
I played around with Rhapsody a few years ago out of curiosity. It was interesting to get it running on PC hardware but after that, it was essentially useless as there were no apps for it.
Show off live window resizing. I"d like to see it
Check the SMD fuses that bring power to the PC Card slots, I guess they are gone.
All early ThinkPad's have that design with the flip up keyboard. The designers referred to it as the bento box because they got inspiration from their lunches. So it's not really a quirky but a standard of IBMs of the era. And I think one of the best laptop designs of all time. People give the G3 PowerBook a lot a of credit as being super expandable and easy to work on, it doesn't hold a candle to bento box ThinkPad's. 100% toolless removable of drives, battery, ram and the cmos battery? In 1994? Its one of the easiest laptops to work on from any era.
IBM Thinkpads are true legends!
Have you actually found a build of OmniWeb for x86 Rhapsody that works? I haven't been able to find one yet. Please let me know.
Hello will you try install a/ux on mac or just make a video about it please
He made a video a while back about running A/UX on a period accurate machine and even ran a MUD on it
@@TylerFurrison can you send link pls
Omniweb was slow compared to Netscape navigator back in 1999/2000, I wouldn't hold much hope for it working on modern websites. And I was running this OS on my dev desktop. I noticed there was significant lag in the apps on this laptop which I never had on my desktop machine.
Nice
Laptop hood needs to come back, 100%.
I’ve ran it on an i810 based system with a small amount of success.
Does macOS really still have Chess? I've never looked for it. Thanks for the heads-up.
So...this is now an IBM ThinkMac? 🤣
Why did this get canceled. Did anyone continue it.
Rhapsody is an operating system? Are they the same company that also made an iTunes-like/Spotify-like streaming music platform?
ahh a fellow user of Tortex guitar picks, I see!
What kind of screw driver is that? I'd love something that small that's powered.
I very much want to know too
Ahh yes...
The good ol days...
Rhapsody DR2 was great. In hindsight,, Apple were wise to release it as Mac OS X Server 1.x for PowerPc machines, with its rather primitive BlueBox environment for classic Macs, and the native API being so alien compared to what went before, that the likes of Adobe threatened to leave the platform (hence Carbon). For the x86 platform it would have been even worse, with only a handful of of programs .
Does it count as a hackintosh if Rhapsody was made to work on normal PCs anyway?
what that "quirks and features" a reference to Doug Demuro?😄
I wish we could open up modern laptops so easily. Hint, hint framework!
Your recorded voice sounded like 90s era Steve Jobs presenting the NeXT..... you should repeat the test but now with a "I think I speak for everybody at NeXT saying it's great to be back. ", which of course would be epic on Rhapsody on an IBM Thinkpad, knowing that IBM broke with Apple just before SJ returned, then sold all their PC businesses to Lenovo and then basically left Apple as a siting duck with PowerPC as they switched all their servers to POWER4.
There's was even a mythical ThinkPad with a PowerPC 604e that never got off the ground, and Workplace OS (OS/2 6) which was just Mach (with an H) with an OS/2 front end. Supposedly, they would have created a Mac OS 9 UI if everything worked according to plan. Tip: it didn't.
You could had hot-swapped the floppy drive with the cdrom drive after finishing loading the driver floppy.
It's just OpenStep with the Finder slapped on top.
Another totally pointless obscure OS install on battered hardware. I love it. Thanks for all the late nights that your channel has caused on my bunch of junk ;)
I have a ThinkPad 760CD, wonder if/how that would run Rhapsody! (EDIT: Looks like it would work, but with no audio.)
1:43 Action DeMuro Retro 😂
QUIT IT WITH THE ADS!!!!
great video.
3Com must have made a fortune selling dongles for PCMCIA cards. I remember ppl always losing them. Drove the main accountant bonkers. 😀
you never hit save at 8:15 :( :( :(
shoutout tortex picks
Ciao and thank you for your very interesting Video, you're so funny 😅 and for a next Video please try to Install Windows 95 on a Apple II hahaha just kiddin' happy weekend and many greetings from brunswick in germany 🙃
2:49 Remember when laptops were highly user-serviceable...😢
"Oh yeah, it works great!"
[*Screen has the most blurry, fuzzy and out of focus picture you've ever seen*]
pensar que tuve un par de thinkpad, pero de la era xp
Why didn’t Apple just release Rhapsody sooner? Seems like the original Mac skin on NS would have been pretty good! Maybe they just wanted to wait and make a splash with Aqua.
@@nicksterj True - I was thinking in the 21st century "release early and update later over the internet" mindset that just doesn't work back then. A "developer release" was what they went with and kinda all they had. It's just pretty cool how stable and fast it seems to be already before all that other stuff slowed it down!