Top 10 Most BROKEN Moves in Guilty Gear Strive
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- čas přidán 28. 07. 2024
- Guilty Gear is a series with tons of broken special moves and Strive is no different. But what specials are the most broken?
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00:00 Intro
1:40 Number 10
2:35 Number 9
3:45 Number 8
4:40 Number 7
5:25 Number 6
6:30 Number 5
7:14 Number 4
7:55 Number 3
9:14 Number 2
10:00 Number 1! - Hry
The most broken move is the emotional damage you get from the axl time stop into taunt
no ram on the list huh...makes you think
about what
@@tire_iron488 she sux 🗣️
Agresa Ordono (j.214s) is definitely a top 10 special imo
All of Ram’s best moves are resource moves based on her number of swords, that’s why she’s not there (trust)
Maybe Erarlumo (rekka) from older versions could've been on there but I don't think any of Ram's special moves are super strong individually, it's more about how they function together in her kit. The exception to this is Bajoneto (sword toss) which was left off because resource.
So to sum up, buff Testament.
I thought Garuda would've gotten at least an honest mention
Kapel had to be close to making the cut right? It's basically the reverse of half the moves that made the list; a hitbox with advancing movement instead at the end, plus the disjoint, projectile property and ability to combo afterwards into oki.
Color me impressed that Tatami mat or Joe Johnson didn't make it.
Also I get none of A.B.A install moves and H.C, Bedman, Asuka, etc not being there... But how come Goldlewis drone gets a pass when it's literally linked to his security meter
Btw I do think drone is op but I thought the rules would cross it out of the list
The no resource moves definitely made me think that 3 of these wouldn't get here. Beyblade, HC clone, drone.
@baltharaaz9847 True I didnt even think about Clone and beyblade like that
@@baltharaaz9847I think by resources he just meant moves that you can only use a certain amount of times before having to obtain the resources again. Think something like happy chaos gun or ram swords where you have to wait to get the ability back
And drone only gets weaker without his resource, you can still use it so it counts
Very surprised to not see Rainwater make it (though it shows up in the intro, so, considered, perhaps?). Very hard for most of the cast to meaningfully punish, a difficult animation to react to, and requires a hard callout to beat even though it won't lead to much. It's also a full pressure reset if blocked and has solid reward on a hit.
Rainwater is more of a knowledge check Imo, it’s not really that good on block if your opponent just faultless defenses unless you wild assault after. Plus it doesn’t really get you good mix on block, or put you in mid screen or full screen where axl is best.
I really wanted to put rainwater in the list but it barely got cut. Specifically in the context of on Axl it's a bit worse than it could be and there are just a lot of broken moves in this game lmao
@@SQuirrel147 Fair enough, it's definitely true that Axl pressure after isn't anything particularly threatening (though it is still pressure ofc).
Most broken move is whatever i lost to
Mist Finer going unnoticed by everyone. (Although it's hard to rank because it interacts with another move, and that's a big part of what makes it so good.)
Yeah but Johnny sucks so it balances it out
mist finer is… okay i guess? its not insane or anything lmao
Probably steady aim, clone, and beyblade
edit: just watched, this list is kindof like that horse drawing meme
I would have put sword toss in the list, the reward on hit or on block is just too strong, and you don't need to use the move outside the corner
It seems when I rendered the video it messed up some of the transitions? Couple of rough transitions that aren't like that in my editor. Sorry about that lol
Bro said that you can't react to the spin 💀
No ram??? They rlly gotta give her the new special move soon so she can keep up 😮💨
does he know?
@@Okami_HD rock doesn’t count.
Just like how zatos new “move” didn’t count.
@@sKinCollector She is still strong, she does not need that sht, where's all this ram downplay coming from I keep seeing it
@@sKinCollector how does it not count? it's a crucial part of her kit and has it's own input and name, what makes it different from literally every other special move?
It makes me wonder at this point if people even play this game, ondo is a mid-reaching indipendent projectile that is +7, ironically some may argue she is better now then before based on her current kit
I would've picked Garuda over Potemkin Buster honestly. Whenever I get hit by that it's a struggle for me not to check out of the match lmao
Yeah Garuda makes potemkin work in this game
Genuinely shocked not to see the current version of elk hunt on this list
I’d argue it’s number 10, if we drop Mappa Hunch. Mappa is broadly safe, situationally plus, while Hunt is unsafe unless you use some stamina to make it plus. However, that’s a guarantee and you can ‘mix’ by not spending that stamina. So, it’s overall a damn good move that I’d argue is slightly stronger than Mappa. But it also makes sense that it’s not because it’s not exactly impossible to smack the shit out of Sin for trying to go for it Willy-Nilly.
Honestly, as a Sol player Im really happy that someone finally got right why BR is such a busted move. Because I never got why people called it broken, except the FRC giving a free high low part, so its refreshing to finally see someone actually explain why.
And I agree, the versatility and combination of properties on BR make it really difficult to deal with and make Sol a much better character. I think when I think about it, the most important Sol buff by far was the one where they made BR a rekka, because that allowed for all of that versatility and turned a move that if you got hit by that was it without RC into a move that, depending on situation could go into a full conversion meterlessly. Couple that with being able to make it safe/safer with spacing and the fact that you get a uninterruptible high low 50/50 that can potentially lead into the game, which also has dozens of reset points and even makes BR1 > Reset sorta usable due to the threat of the RC, and yeah I can absolutely see why people say its that broken.
I think its gotten slightly worse with the universal rekka change, but it still has everything that makes Sols conversions so strong and the FRC 50/50 is still there. And due to the existence of WA, Sol can now create guess from game sequences from blocking a single button given enough resources and/or previously accumulated RISC on the opponent. So I think that a small nerf to BR but a massive buff to pressure makes that even more degenerate and easy to get into. BR FRC is truly a drug.
Probably the scariest part about Nago’s Beyblade is that I can never tell if it’s an actual low or not, because I swear I have blocked it standing before and now I’m forever confused
They changed it at the beginning of season three from a mid to a low
The list is good and all, but you must not let chipp get away with this! The world must not forget!
Surprised stun dipper wasn’t on the list but I’d say this is a solid top 10
i dont really have a top 3 best moves in the game, but i feel like i have to mention chipp's 236K, vertical alpha blade, because that move does sooo much for the character that without it i think he'd be Considerably Weaker. it may not even be his best special, cuz his rekka is so good, but 236K is combos, mixup, technically a safejump unless youre fighting leo, you can do funny corner wallrun stuff with it, And it helps you get OUT of the corner cuz its also air okay! it obviously has its weaknesses, it isnt a Perfect move, but it is so so strong in many areas for chipp that it has to be mentioned. may not actually be a top 10 or whatever special but it is in my heart. Alpha Blade!
wrote this before i watched the rest of the video, so ill come back n see after. seriously cant gas up K alpha blade enough tho
big agree! meaty k alpha is a bit annoying to setup but super rewarding on hit and *usually* safe enough on block. plus triple jump k alpha is so free it's almost unfair. chipp would be nigh unplayable without it.
Going by the logic of bandit revolver's inclusion here, k alpha blade makes a lot of sense. I also still wonder which version of the move is better (current or release)
:) nice editing
Man I can't believe that my goat Jack-o isn't here/j LOVE THE CONTENT
Ah yes. Minion self destruct is the best move ever. So strong in fact that it takes all her minion bars away🥲
futaba palace theme my beloved
In conclusion, buff Zato
Yo, nice run at EVO, SQ... Big ups.
whoa, a video
Oppose
You can be trapped in a corner, and if you hit a button oppose can stop your mash and you can gwt counter hit or even thrown/ command grabbed in some scenarios. I know Zato isnt top tier, but that special move is still pretty strong.
It’s a resource move though so it didn’t make it sadly
It is a good move but it comes with all of the eddie mechanics so I did not include it in the running.
Starting to think there’s some broken moves in Strive
My top 5:
Fanir
Night Raid Vortex
Volcanic Viper
Bandit bringer
Wild Throw
Honestly good list. I avoided putting multiple moves from the same character but some characters could have had multiple moves for sure lol
Dolphin S is only REALLY good on Counter hit. On normal hit May is +0 and cant really push any feasable RPS. On block she either loses the RPS or is neutral at best if the oponent just presses 2p after it. It neutral skips at a very high risk as getting touched means a CH in the air into combo most of the times, is usually used very sparringly this way. With split and cancel she gets to do some shenanigans like avoiding most 6ps but is *very* reactable. With meter fprc after dolphin gives an amazing mix up so that's really strong but S dolphin, despite being great I wouldn't put it on top of the list at all, but perhaps spot number 7 or so. I would prefer mappa hunch way more than dolphin tbh.
H dolphin is really niche. On blockstrings its a nice ender leaving you +7 but *really* spaced, specially on FD. It's really good still but its very reactable and not being able to fully reset with C.S from it is arguably not great but I'm willing to hear opinions. In neutral is weird beucause its very reactable but with Split you get to do some unexpected mix ups or bait 6ps even better compared with S dolphin. Probably one of the better characteristics of dolphin which you didnt mention (probably because it's kinda niche by how hard is to input and situational) is that you can kara cancel the first frames of split and dolphin cancel into orca. This is good with H dolphin because it being so reactable and telegraphed usually makes other people press slower buttons as a reaction and you can orca them.
A lof of yapping here but I wanted to give my input. If this was S2 dolphin would probably be the best special *by far* just by the RPS alone getting you dumb wallbreaks of 60% damage just because you pressed the wrong button vs May while she is favoured. Now in S3 I think is a needed tool for May and really great but it doesn't give you the win at all by default and the Risk Reward is much more balanced IMO
Edit: grammar
No stun dipper 😔
Pre-nerf stun dipper would definitely be on the list, but it got shot pretty hard.
My top 3 would have to be nago beyblade, nago clone, and hc clone.
Probably biased cause I main her but I'd say Bridget's 214 yoyo is like one of the best moves in the game. Yea it has to be paired with Roll to make it that good, but still
I'm kinda curious if it just didn't make it into the list or if didn't fit the rules
Genuinely surprised you didn't put scum dipper on the list, as a long time Ky main.
With meter it's incredible but I think if a move is only broken with meter it's not reasonable to put it in top 10. Elphelt rekka being an exception because it's TOO good with meter
@@SQuirrel147 you know what? That's fair to say then.
make testament crow a top 10 move arcsys
Leo dp should be in the list. It's the best meterless reversal in the entire game
my top5 in the same ruleset would be
1 hc clone
2 nago beyblade/dp/clone
3 anji spin (altho for me kou is a close second)
4 pot hammerfall
5 may dolphin
id love to put millia kapel there too, but its only great in millias context i think
im unsure what oki characters across the board would love more, yoyo-set/tandem top/charged stun edge but i suppose "win-more" doesnt do much in guilty gear xd
Before I even watch this vid I nominate terra metron as broken
Based on your rules id say
3. Potemkin hammer fall
2. Anji spin
1. Slayer Dandy step
Hm: Nago beyblade, I think it doesn't count because it takes a resource per your rules (also sin elk hunt and hoof stomp would go here)
Nago beyblade technically breaks the rules but his resource is so much less convoluted than the other ones I omitted that I allowed it. In the case of Asuka, his moves have 3 resources tied to them and RNG. HC has 2 resources and technically is missing an H button. Nago is much simpler to compare to a normal character in that regard
axl rainwater, testament skull , johnny mist finer , bridget yoyo .... and why thunderbird is here ?
Testament's 236S/H is not even remotely a good move rn, the hurtbox extends so far that it's very risky for Testament to throw out in a lot of matchups.
Baiken and Johnny not on the list huh … makes you think
Johnny just straight up has zero OP moves
Vault deal doesn’t exist, it can’t hurt you…
@@Chadto-1i mean, he has both ensenga and vault deal which are both very solid moves, maybe not op but very strong
@@wompwomp1892 yeah i can agree with u there but vault deal requires meter to usually be good consistently and ensenga is just solid, but not great its only real practical use is making blockstrings end safely which sounds great but in reality he doesent get much off it due to weird spacing afterwards, the only move of his id call "OP" maybe is cards because of how plus they are and they set up his mix but he has to set them up to actually use them theyre not free
Btw i don’t know if i misheard you but the goldlewis drone does go away. If goldlewis gets hit the drone will despawn. You probably know this but just to be sure. Good video otherwise ❤
I don't think I said otherwise? It doesn't go away on block, though I didn't mention that either lol
It's not a special but as a testament main 6p is absolutely evil, as a friend has repeatedly said to me
No spoilers - but its good I can say my champion is honest
Best special in the game is obviously Still Growing
I would have put beyblade number #2
Happy Chaos gunshot could take up all 10 slots
technically fire is a normal (5H), steady aim on the other hand is fair game
I agree and that's exactly why I kept it off the list lol
no bedman on this list huh... makes you think
I was gonna try and say something nice about my main but a lot of her moves aren’t all that great if I’m being honest lol. Millia. She’s functional. And her moves work well alongside one another but none of them are really all that crazy on their own. So I don’t think I can really say anything regarding it.
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Asuka Chant fr
Faust Scarecrow, specifically PRC Scarecrow. Not all that hard to do and even if you expect it, he's got options afterwards.
Moves that are only good with meter I valued less, with the exception of Elphelt's rekka as 2 50/50s that easily accessible is just too good even if it requires meter to convert
If you include RC stuff, then you would need a top 50 move list instead of a top 10.
@@SQuirrel147 Scarecrow fprc isn't worth talking about but dolphin regular hit needing meter to convert makes it the most broken move in the game?
@@SQuirrel147scarecrow still has value without meter as well
@@tswrangle1000 Not really. It needs certain items on screen or meter to be even worth thinking about.
DRAGON INSTALL!!!
based aba mentioned
Chain lolipop
As an I-No main I gotta say MLA is pretty good… but yeah, probably not as good as any move on this list.
MLA was considered but just barely didn't make it on. If someone put it top 10 I wouldn't argue too much
Uhhh Fuujin...
Bajoneto, and Stun Dipper?
Definitely not fuujin
Stun dipper requires meter to work. Hit 1 doesn’t combo into hit 2 unless you space it well, it’s very minus, and it doesn’t give good oki. Still a crazy neutral skip and fast low when you have meter but it really sucks when you don’t
Algo button ❤
Whos more annoying, s.naoto or happy chaos at his strongest
Kamariyuki shouldn't be on that list in based on what you said on ressources and character's mechanics
Future me is Danzai on the list?
no, it was not on the list.
it's a part of a resource which i imagine why it's not up there.
Armor frame 7? No combo on hit? No way.
@@AchedSphinx Partly that but I also just don't think it's top 10. It has a fair amount of downsides for what it is compared to the other moves
3:14 any zoner with a slightly fast disjoint can easily punish mappa hunch. Axl 2h, 5p or rensen, johnny mistfinder, testament skull thingy. Mappa hunch is really not that good specially when taking into consideration how brain dead all slayer players are spamming it the second they are 4 meters away from you
Edit:
Briget 5s and 5h and 236s
Edit nr 2:
Asuka 2d
Also mappa hunch is very reactable imo
K Mappa is physiologically unreactable with most buttons dominant enough to beat it. You are lying.
@@MMurine 11 frame startup is 100% reactable, infact i do it every time i play any slayer💀
besides most slayers use it as a netural skip tool, and it is minus on block.
@@fred_ted7614 You revealed such a comical lack of game knowledge in this comment that I'm not going to humor you further.
@@MMurine its ok if you dissagree, idc. stay ass. but its genuenly not that good, its a good approach option and breaks wall early but i think saying that it being especially good on zoners is plain wrong as a axl player myself, mappa is the move i punish the most out of slayers moves. on block and from far distance. idc if you dissagree its the reality. its ass against zoners.
@@MMurine also last reply i promise, you can grab it.
In-O’s new special move is pretty dumb imo but that just might be the hater in me
No anji? Really makes you fish...
Spin? Seriously????
You can absolutely punish it on reaction, he has 15f of ch recovery.
Bruh. People act like 15 frames recovery on a move with variable active frames is punishable
Like the whole point is to not swing into it, but he can choose to make the part that’s usually punishable, not punishable by holding it a little longer.
Everytime spin is mentioned somebody who has no idea who they’re talking about inevitably goes “well, you can punish its recovery” and they’re wrong everytime
@@ThePoodle Call me bad (I am bad), but it's the fact that you're gambling that it's not Fuujin/etc with the animation being the same. The duration being variable also makes it harder to challenge too. That said, I've never really tried to aim for the recovery punish; I could definitely try that in the future.
@@ThePoodle kid named ambiguous timing and animation:
No Bandit Bringer????
L List
Hi SQ u are cool
When the going gets tough notice that Eisensturm doesn’t make the list
Curious…
(Imagine I posted the image of Idris Elba that says “Learn to sit back and observe. Not everything needs a reaction” here)
really… mays dolphin being the best move in the game… i get that it is MAYS BEST MOVE but its far overshadowed by mappa hunch gios dog pencil thing inos stroke Bridget’s scooter and much much more
may has just become obsolete with the release of slayer and no one realizes except for the sensible ones
This take it not it
Thank you for your input MayGGST
To be roleplaying May and not have pride in her strength, to downplay her, is sinful. I'd rather be carried by May than be good at the game with any other character. I'm proud to say she's too strong, and to say she's the only character I could win with, because I wouldn't want to win if I wasn't playing her. Harden your resolve and abandon your gamer ego, MayGGST.
Every single GG character youtube roleplayer comment are the same person
beyblade is bottom 5
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