Part One: The Complete, Insane Story of Trump University | BEHIND THE BASTARDS
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Part One: The Complete, Insane Story of Trump University | BEHIND THE BASTARDS
In Episode 50, Robert is joined by Miles Gray (The Daily Zeitgeist) and they discuss a Trump-adjacent topic: Trump University.
Original Air Date: March 5, 2019
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There’s a reason the History Channel has produced hundreds of documentaries about Hitler but only a few about Dwight D. Eisenhower. Bad guys (and gals) are eternally fascinating. Behind the Bastards dives in past the Cliffs Notes of the worst humans in history and exposes the bizarre realities of their lives. Listeners will learn about the young adult novels that helped Hitler form his monstrous ideology, the founder of Blackwater’s insane quest to build his own Air Force, the bizarre lives of the sons and daughters of dictators and Saddam Hussein’s side career as a trashy romance novelist.
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“What’s poppin’ my bubble wraps?” was good! 😉
yeah, if I ever start a podcast that's going to be my sign on.
That Trump sales pitch was the exact type of thing my parents kept falling for thinking we would be eating lobster every weekend while we stretched the Monday spaghetti all the way to Thursday.
I never trusted Trump, ever.
I don't think Trump was the bad guy in Trump University, I think he got scammed and I am surprised that he didn't know better. There is no denying he has been a smart businessman who has made a lot of money for himself and many many others. He has employed thousands of people over the years and many of them were high-paying jobs. He had some failures along the way but far more success than failure. I think he was the best POTUS since Reagan and he will be again in 2024 and have 4 better years than the first.
@@jeffb5785 Should've read this comment bf4 I replied to your other one lmao
You think he got scammed despite him fucking doubling down when all of the details came out is some next level cope. Trump was right when he said he could walk down main street and shoot a man and none of his fans would care.
"Sheepskin" refers to vellum, a type of paper made from the skin of animals (calves and sheep). In the middle ages, university diplomas were usually written on vellum because it was cheaper and longer lasting than the paper available at the time. My understanding is that some universities still use vellum (or non-animal-cruelty versions of it) for their diplomas.
Thus, "sheepskin" has become kind of a folksy term for diploma. Kinda like how "pigskin" is another term for a ball in American football even though they're not made of that anymore either.
FWIW, the (New York State) Regents Exam in about 1972 included: "Pork chop is to football as lamb chop is to..." [4 choices, one of which was "diploma"]...
Vellum is the non-animal-cruelty version of vellum. You do not need to be cruel to animals to make it.
@@meatmobile this is correct. vellum is used for Jewish ritual items like Torah scrolls, mezuzot, and tefillin. And for vegan Jews there are special providers who make it out of the skin of animals that died of natural causes. Not all vellum is without animal cruelty, but vellum doesn’t inherently require slaughter.
Also, traditionally the highest quality vellum was made of stillborn calves, which means they never lived in the first place.
@@IsaacMayerCreativeWorks tell an anti-abortionist that :P
I'm surprised Robert didn't know this, I had him pegged as one of these guys who tracks down and catalogs/decodes every Simpsons punchline/reference that misses him the first time. (When Homer is getting his diploma from Krusty's Klown Kollege, Krusty lets slip the fact that the diplomas are actually "cat skins" before quickly correcting himself. This is, in fact, close to the only reason I even know what a sheepskin is.)
Would LOVE LOVE LOVE if you ever did a Behind The Bastards for Bobby Kotick, and bonus points get Stephanie Sterling of the Jimquisition as your guest. She's glorious and has a lot to say about that particular bastard
I totally agree that he sucks, but like, making shitty video games is hardly evil by the standards of a show that regularly talks about dictators and genocide. I'm not sure there's enough truly evil stuff to fill out an episode.
@@deefpaladinoh, you have no idea
@@deefpaladin Do you really think the extent of any billionaire CEO's evil is limited because of the product their company makes? An employee killed herself over the sexual harassment and abuse she endured from one of her superiors at a company Bobby is responsible for, dude. And nothing was done about it. That's literally just one story out of thousands of employees. Are you really unaware of all of the heinous shit happening at Blizzard alone under his watch? Literally lives ruined and lost by him and people he's allowed to wreak havoc.
Then we get into all of the financial ruin of individuals and families he is knowingly pushing through proven psychologically manipulative business practices at King (makers of candy crush) especially. Practices that are PRAISED at that level of the business world BECAUSE of how effective they are at manipulating people. And none of THAT gets into the people he has PERSONALLY done awful things to. Just because he owns a video game company doesn't mean he's any less capable of evil as the other CEOs (of which there have been several) we've gotten episodes on. The industry they're in is largely irrelevant.
@@deefpaladin Yeah, it's not about the games. He's a monster.
Yeah I second that. Bobby K is a monster wearing human skin.
The idea that Trump himself could POSSIBLY ever CORRECTLY use the word "curricula" in a sentence as he supposedly did in his foreword is probably the absolute funniest thing about this joke of a university XD
4:11 I would call that person a Mercenary Journalist. They are reporting the truth, but not because they care about it-- they care about *getting paid* for the truth.
"What's popping, my Bubble Wraps!" is a great intro
Have this guy on more often. My dude cracks me up as much as you do.
I was this close to going to Full Sail. Even had some very emotional calls with some "admissions" people about what I wanted out of a career.
Instead I went to a legit university and got a bachelor of science in robotics. Now I work for a two-bit woodworking outfit whose business decisions are basically all dictated by its own social media team. I'm sure things would be worse if I'd fallen into that trap, but at the moment it's tough to imagine how.
I think there was a point to this comment when I started. Maybe "Get a good internship or you'll end up like me."
It's tough out there. I hope things will work out for you eventually.
I almost went too, but I'm curious... did you hear any testimonials? Because Robert sidn't actually give one. His friend very well might have lost interest or failed out, drugs... any number of things
@@Virjunior01 I've never spoken with anyone who went, but the secondhand accounts I've heard all describe it as a survival situation. Even if it is a pipeline right into a media job, and I have my strong doubts about that, there have to be less self-destructive ways to go about it.
@@EnsignGeneric yeah... first year of some kind of art college is like that. Either you believe in your work and go completely into it or you don't and just stop wasting your time
"Alex Jones? Just me in a wig." HAHAHAHA double levels of humor there. Nice.
It took me way too long trying to picture that, then remembering Jones is bald
I remember Full Sail giving a presentation in one of my classes once and I could smell scam even at 16
I went to Full Sail and have had a great career since. It was money well spent for me and most other people I met there. This was back in 2005 though I can’t speak on them for the past 18 years.
Renting a private jet is like paying someome $500 to have your picture taken while you flaunt the stack of six fifties and two hundos that you paid with.
Does anyone else listen to both the podcasts and then sometimes out the CZcams videos on when they need something playing in the background?
hahaha the empty platitudes continued with Third Wife 'Be Best' as perfectly lampooned by Randy Rainbow
The doc about the person who was raised to be a preacher sounds fascinating. I was raised as a Jehovah's Wittness, being groomed for leadership before I gained some cursory awareness that it was horse shit. I wasn't aware how thoroughly rhetorical tactics had been drilled into me until I got a job selling bullshit and immediately clocked that everything they were teaching was stuff I already knew.
I basically cannot do sales because it reminds me too much of that.
“Unspecified charity, you should make a t-shirt of that”
I bought that T-shirt a few hours before watching this episode…
I like how his ad pitches deadbeat donnie as a revolutionary architect, real estate magnate, and construction kingpin, when he's just a guy who sells signs.
So when you say "the balls" after Trump started the University after the government told him he couldn't....no balls needed. They knew THE WORST that would happen is a fine. They could pay the fine no problem, so why not give it a go. It's like parking tickets to rich people. It's just how much it costs to park there. Who cares. Because the USA is super awesome.
The elephant garlic to garlic self scan scam and other “life hacks” (a.k.a. crimes) should be on a podcast called “How to be a Bastard with Robert Eveans”
That hot pocket line made me proper cackle. xD
Jesus, it's like Kamp Krusty
The Kamp Krusty of Universities
Oh my God that ad at 32:11. 🤣It sounds like a parody.
hugged cat and she immediately latched onto my hand and won't stop purring or let go, please advise
You know it's not a real Donald Trump dinner story because he didn't insist on the Kobe beef being well done and then top it with ketchup.
I do miss seedy roms, I do miss seedy roms.
'students grading each other' is also how any open assignments in coursera work. And yeah, nobody is going to fail their unseen classmates.
(Still some good courses though. As in all education it's mostly up to you what you're getting out of it)
I used to sell cars. Scary. Exactly like this though.
I did a car sales workshop thing many years ago. I think I actually paid for it too. But at least I learned that I'm completely unable to lie to anyone, especially in order to take their money.
Plant that Elephant Garlic 🐘🧄
32:35 I love how it refers to trump as a famous businessman man, but it doesn’t say he’s successful….
He's so close to getting banned from doing business in NY now. We've come a long way.
32:59 Trump University was about action...legal action.
I’m calling dibs on the band name “Scam City Tower”.
2:05 that could be any for-profit university but we all know what you said, and you know we know, and that's fine because I have a friend who got scammed by those assholes.
I feel like Australian Trump was just Liverpool.
Be harder!
Yes diplomas used to be on vellum fancy paper made of sheep’s skin.
These always look so good, but they take so long to get to the subject that I end up losing interest and moving on from them.
Oh Ro Bo ros
I am so fucking afraid of where we are going for this one. -buckles up-
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Full Sail was horrible!!!
I had to laugh when this guy had no idea what a Sheep Skin is, I wondered to myself "Have you ever heard of The Beatles?" Millennials shock me sometimes, I have three children all born in the 80's, all intelligent and doing well in business and in life but they sometimes surprise me, my highest learning was I dropped out of high school at 17 and got a GED before my graduating class, and went to work. I know as far as schooling they are all far better educated than I am and yet sometimes I think I know so much more about almost everything than they do except Smart Phones, I am not up to par and often need their help.
This is just hubris man, the phrase sheepskin is not said by many ppl so he doesn't know what it means, the fact you correlate that to any amount of intelligence is fucking stupid. Showing you know how to use a smart phone is a far bigger sign of intelligence than just having some pub trivia in your head. Every generation says shit like this and it's never true.
Sorry for the tone of this comment but man it's so annoying how ppl see shit like not knowing phrases you have probably never encountered anyway makes you dumb, all it does is make YOU feel better grandstanding over your own damn kids.
Scam voltron
First listen. 24 minutes in and not that impressed. I wanted to learn more about a presidential candidate and all I’ve gotten is half an hour of Ad Hominem and stories about his child hood that were just wasted time. If the second half of this isn’t more factual I’m unfollowing.
I'm an hour in and I think Robert is beautifully showing who Trump is and what he values.
I'll tell you ALL of the secrets of Trump's success for the low sale price of $35,000! We just met for coffee and he told me how concerned he is that you haven't contacted me yet, as this is HIGHLY IMPORTANT information!
One of the first things Robert said was "I'm not going to go into Trump specifically as a person, that's been done enough already." Sorry you missed that part, coulda saved you an hr.
1. You weren't following in the first place. I don't know why you guys always do that. Ben Shapiro has "cancelled his Sports Illustrated subscription" at least a half dozen times now. It's so dumb.
2. you didn't want "to learn more about a presidential candidate", you wanted a hagiography. the cognitive dissonance caused you to construct a reality where you're actually a reasonable person, just looking for information and this podcast was too mean, therefore you don't have to take their claims seriously.
I’m sure Robert will be absolutely crushed by your announcement
On one hand you do have a valid point. Moreso than normal, this meanders.
As others point out though from how you phrase your opinion and the threat of unfollowing, you are a fraud.