Can You Hear the Difference Between a 1800s Piano and a Modern piano?

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  • Can you hear the difference between a piano from the 1800s and a modern piano?
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  • @elizabethchevrie6574
    @elizabethchevrie6574 Před 3 měsíci +171

    Your modern piano has such an amazing sound

  • @xhoneybehrx6467
    @xhoneybehrx6467 Před 3 měsíci +255

    I still find it absolutely stunning how you can play without looking half the time

    • @M_SC
      @M_SC Před 3 měsíci +33

      Muscle memory. It’s not a super advanced skill, more like a medium skill. Not trying to be rude.

    • @20alphabet
      @20alphabet Před 3 měsíci +6

      But the other half...

    • @Lord_Vinheteiro
      @Lord_Vinheteiro  Před 3 měsíci +218

      It's not hard to play without looking at the keyboard. But looking AWAY while playing, that's difficult. Because it completely changes the way you play.

    • @MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12
      @MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12 Před 3 měsíci +14

      Try watching blind pianists play🎹🎶

    • @Ko-Iri_888
      @Ko-Iri_888 Před 3 měsíci

      Легко

  • @DusanPavlicek78
    @DusanPavlicek78 Před 3 měsíci +134

    I love the painting. He's always watching 😁

  • @CelliniCreations
    @CelliniCreations Před 3 měsíci +188

    The rag sounds much more interesting on the old piano.

    • @shoestring-budget08
      @shoestring-budget08 Před 3 měsíci +18

      It's like it was made for that specific genre

    • @BrandyBalloon
      @BrandyBalloon Před 3 měsíci +1

      It almost sounds like two different instruments in accompaniment.

    • @paulcutty8048
      @paulcutty8048 Před 3 měsíci +5

      Exactly, I prefer the modern piano for all pieces except those from Scott Joplin.

    • @luis4290
      @luis4290 Před 3 měsíci +8

      @@paulcutty8048Which is amazing as Scott Joplin is the modern composer compared to the other ones.

    • @LewisPassos-gq9yn
      @LewisPassos-gq9yn Před 3 měsíci

      3:20 You don't say!

  • @Tupacem
    @Tupacem Před 3 měsíci +183

    This does make me wonder how these composers wouldve changed their styles, if at all, if they had modern pianos.

    • @EpicureMammon
      @EpicureMammon Před 3 měsíci +2

      czcams.com/video/xwFL01yi4Sg/video.html They definitely sounded different, but not necessarily like his.

    • @user-ye2sm1gq7l
      @user-ye2sm1gq7l Před 3 měsíci +9

      I think they'd love the sound of our modern piano. Liszt changed his old one for a new one when he was very old already. This nostalgia for sounds of old pianos is an "our generation" thing. They were always looking for new and better sound ones.

    • @Schmidtelpunkt
      @Schmidtelpunkt Před 3 měsíci +6

      The qualities of the medium influences the art. Stereo allowed a greater clarity of sound and more instruments in the mix, which changed studio productions. LPs had two sides and the order of tracks was optimized for that, CDs were optimized for being listened uninterrupted, modern music is happening on playlists, so there is no connection anymore between songs required. 70s synth never could sound like real instruments, so they were used for their own qualities right into the 80s when they started to be used to compensate for other instruments in a cheaper way. Tik Tok requires a minute of music without an intro and tracks meant to be promoted that way have pretty much become that. Pop music is not meant to be sung by opera singers and Freddie Mercury's Barcelona (which was specifically written for his and Montserrat Cabllé's voices) lead to an avalanche of mediocre operatic pop covers, which never should have existed.

    • @Casutama
      @Casutama Před 3 měsíci +5

      @@user-ye2sm1gq7l That's not the question though. Old pianos sound different, achieve a different sound effect, and not necessarily a worse one. The question is if these compositions would still be composed in the same way if they were written with the modern piano in mind.

    • @alanclarkeau
      @alanclarkeau Před 2 měsíci +3

      Yes, I'm sure Bach would have embraced Sustain & Sostenuto pedals - and absolutely loved a Wurlitzer Pipe Organ.

  • @zloboslav_
    @zloboslav_ Před 3 měsíci +121

    The old one is kinda bright, I prefer the softer and fuller tone of the new piano a lot. Except at the end the ragtime example sounded much more authentic on the old one. :)

    • @jarekwrzosek2048
      @jarekwrzosek2048 Před 3 měsíci +5

      That's because 1800s piano is a honky-tonk, it was customised specifically for playing ragtime.

    • @MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12
      @MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12 Před 3 měsíci

      I don't know if it's just the condition of the piano or that is just how it is with older pianos🎹🎶

    • @MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12
      @MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@jarekwrzosek2048if you listen to Roberts Pianos videos on old pianos they don't sound quite like this🎹🎶

    • @rogerphelps9939
      @rogerphelps9939 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Indeed. The old one sounds much more like the sort of piano that you would find in a British pub and very good for playing boogie woogie etc.

    • @jarekwrzosek2048
      @jarekwrzosek2048 Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12 It's neither. Honky-tonks are specially customized, with hammers covered with metal plates, instead the usual felt, hence the brighter, tinny sound.

  • @bkpsly1
    @bkpsly1 Před 3 měsíci +45

    The classical composers sound better on the modern piano, even though a good portion of them played on pianos of that age, if not older. But I make the exception for Scott Joplin, he always sounds exceptional on older pianos. Ragtime just sounds amazing on brassy old pianos! This was a fun video, thank you! 😃

  • @November8888
    @November8888 Před 3 měsíci +63

    it seems like the change of environment is affecting too... i kinda prefer the old one. Stunning difference

    • @rogerphelps9939
      @rogerphelps9939 Před 3 měsíci +4

      The old one sounds more like a pub piano. Yhe modern one has a much fuller rounded sound.

  • @claymccoy
    @claymccoy Před 3 měsíci +52

    Love your portrait.

  • @BobbySacamano
    @BobbySacamano Před 3 měsíci +25

    I like how I can judge how truly difficult something is to play by how much time you spend looking through me or at the keys.

  • @MikeDial
    @MikeDial Před 2 měsíci +3

    I like the older one; it seems to produce more harmonics. Of course, the different rooms have an effect on the sound, too.

  • @danc3488
    @danc3488 Před 2 měsíci +4

    I remember going to a music museum several years ago in Spartanburg, South Carolina, they had a collection of very old and also new pianos. You could DEFINITELY tell the difference. It was quite amazing. BTW, Joplin sounds incredible on the older piano.

  • @tecc8380
    @tecc8380 Před 3 měsíci +16

    1800s just sounds like it hits better and has cleaner notes to me. Your skill level never ceases to amaze 🙏🏼😁 Thanks for all your content!

  • @Donttrustthatburger5144
    @Donttrustthatburger5144 Před 3 měsíci +17

    I was in the middle of putting words to my thoughts on the differences in tone, and then lost it noticing the portrait of you was staring at me as well.

    • @joyfulnoise2477
      @joyfulnoise2477 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Hahaha! Very observant. It's a bit unsettling isn't it?!

  • @tijmen.kremer7243
    @tijmen.kremer7243 Před 3 měsíci +63

    Even tho the sound of the new piano is way more clear I like the sound of the old one better. It has a way deeper sound.😊

    • @Mjao519
      @Mjao519 Před 3 měsíci +3

      Yeah the old one sounds closer to the chemballo

    • @JoyPeace-ej2uv
      @JoyPeace-ej2uv Před 3 měsíci

      I suspect the newer piano might sound more like the older one as the wood ages. As the cells of the wood collapse or lose their natural internal oils.

    • @1001100x02
      @1001100x02 Před 3 měsíci

      Warmer, like a tube amplifier.

  • @caelestigladii
    @caelestigladii Před 3 měsíci +7

    Dang both had their charms. I like the new one on some melodies and the old one for other melodies.

  • @Reuben-
    @Reuben- Před 3 měsíci +15

    What I learned is that it's good to have the instrument(s) that you feel best represent the music your playing. Thank you for your videos! They are great entertainment!

  • @cammoguy2
    @cammoguy2 Před 3 měsíci +15

    Great comparison video.
    This reminds me of all the old cowboy movies I've seen. Most saloons had an old geezer playing in the background and the piano sounded like your old one.
    I wonder if the movie-makers used old pianos in the movies to add an authentic feeling?
    Probably not, since back when they made those movies, old pianos were pretty cheap; sometimes free.
    (Still waiting for you to play the bagpipes!)

    • @nmccw3245
      @nmccw3245 Před 3 měsíci +1

      You’re thinking of a tack piano.

    • @cammoguy2
      @cammoguy2 Před 3 měsíci

      Never heard of tack piano, so looked it up. You are absolutely right! Thanks for the pointer! @@nmccw3245

  • @ClassicalMusic.Channel
    @ClassicalMusic.Channel Před 3 měsíci +5

    It's impossible not to love the 2 pianos!

  • @shannonlawsonnashville
    @shannonlawsonnashville Před 3 měsíci +6

    I love the comparison videos!
    The idiosyncrasies of the 1800s piano and its tinny tone make it for me

  • @Welgeldiguniekalias
    @Welgeldiguniekalias Před 3 měsíci +21

    The antique piano is giving me Western movie saloon vibes. Is this what it sounded like when it was new though?

    • @JoyPeace-ej2uv
      @JoyPeace-ej2uv Před 3 měsíci +2

      I wondered the same. Also do different species of tree make for different sounds? Plus the best violins it turns out the wood marinated in ocean water by necessity due to the location of the city waiting for the wood to be needed. Forming salt crystals giving Stradivarius violins their amazing tone. So a guitar maker tried the same trick and got an upgrade.

    •  Před 3 měsíci +6

      Nope, it didn't sound like this when new. When the hammers wear down, they become harder and the sound becomes brighter.

  • @m7trf07
    @m7trf07 Před 3 měsíci +6

    Both great tbh.
    Like two great black and green teas.
    Each has its benefits

  • @CIPEIYT
    @CIPEIYT Před 2 měsíci +1

    BOTH pianos sound amazing...even on the recording. Amazing job of selecting & placing microphones. Pretty sure that old piano has platinum strings; probably worth more than the building they're in. Certainly genuine ivory key caps.

  • @george28rw
    @george28rw Před 3 měsíci +9

    Impresionado.... maravillosas ejecuciones, Lord.

  • @wt2179
    @wt2179 Před 3 měsíci +11

    尖った感じの音がする1800年代のピアノの方が好きだな。
    でも、曲次第でどちらが適性があるピアノかはここまで違いが出るとは面白い。

  • @habsom1406
    @habsom1406 Před 3 měsíci +4

    They all have their own character and personality and the acoustics of the room play a role too! But what stands out for me is the supremely exceptional playing by your fingers maestro! 👍🙏😎❤

  • @AgnesCongdon-xk8hr
    @AgnesCongdon-xk8hr Před 3 měsíci +4

    Nice work..
    Thanks 😊

  • @LuigiElettrico
    @LuigiElettrico Před 3 měsíci +4

    Such music sounds beautiful on both pianos.

  • @paulor.f.oliver
    @paulor.f.oliver Před 3 měsíci +1

    Parabéns!! O Sr. é um "Gênio" da musica. Obrigado pelos ensinamentos!!

  • @jordan_-yj4gh
    @jordan_-yj4gh Před 3 měsíci +24

    Old is Gold

  • @manariwa
    @manariwa Před 3 měsíci +1

    The last piece tells it all. Old and new technology can make a great difference in how musical expression and appreciation are done. We're all made richer and more blessed to have both. Thanks!

  • @JohnViinalass-lc1ow
    @JohnViinalass-lc1ow Před 3 měsíci +2

    yes, our friend, I did!...thanks for playing them for us

  • @Bernard_de_Fontaine
    @Bernard_de_Fontaine Před 3 měsíci +4

    Malgré la valeur historique d'entendre un instrument plus proche de celui pour lequel les morceaux furent écrits, je trouve une plus grande profondeur dans le son du piano moderne qui est donc mon préféré ❤.

  • @Chelovekpastila
    @Chelovekpastila Před 3 měsíci +1

    Thank you for doing this, God bless you

  • @cinderellie9583
    @cinderellie9583 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Love the new painting❤❤

  • @hiagojosue7311
    @hiagojosue7311 Před 3 měsíci

    Simplesmente o video chegou em uma boa hora, tive uma certa recaida emocional e me
    sinto muito melhor ouvindo suas melodias no spotify também, grato pelo trabalho impecavel
    e um excelente dia!

  • @moy9022
    @moy9022 Před 3 měsíci

    You are a genius, you played excellent on any instrument. Thanks again.

  • @vitorvieira672
    @vitorvieira672 Před 3 měsíci +1

    1800's brings life to the music! Chords much beautiful

  • @sonsuzevren61
    @sonsuzevren61 Před 3 měsíci

    Thans for the amazing video.. 💙

  • @rendresminto6315
    @rendresminto6315 Před 2 měsíci

    Bom d+ ... achei muito mais bonito e vivo no 1800 ... Parabéns.

  • @laurencewinter9728
    @laurencewinter9728 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Love the Scott Joplin with the 1800's piano. Sounds authentic to the period.

  • @lynnmeyers10
    @lynnmeyers10 Před 3 měsíci

    I like them both. Each is unique when heard side by side.

  • @ClassicalSongsChannel
    @ClassicalSongsChannel Před 3 měsíci

    Mano…o som do piano 1800 soa de um jeito incrível! Você fecha os olhos e viaja!!

  • @NigelDixon1952
    @NigelDixon1952 Před 3 měsíci +1

    You really are a good player! Excellent!

  • @reallyoldtom9352
    @reallyoldtom9352 Před 2 měsíci

    The vintage piano 100 percent. I especially like how you have fun with it. God bless. Tom in Idaho

  • @MrRjcosta
    @MrRjcosta Před 3 měsíci

    Os Pianos estão afinados! Aí, o som é um show🎹🎼🎵🎶🎶👏👏👏

  • @frankgagliano9677
    @frankgagliano9677 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Sounds Great, Love the painting where can i can buy one?

  • @feechka-shef
    @feechka-shef Před 2 měsíci

    Оба варианта прекрасны! Браво мастерству ❤

  • @extraordinarilydry1234
    @extraordinarilydry1234 Před 3 měsíci

    You play beautifully

  • @erikroth4723
    @erikroth4723 Před 3 měsíci

    Wow! I really want one of these old pianos! Sounds really 👍 😎😎😎

  • @akcel1211
    @akcel1211 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Good job maestro and finally a good ragtime !

  • @LtKernelPanic
    @LtKernelPanic Před 3 měsíci +2

    Both sound excellent. The old piano has an almost honky-tonk sound that really fir the Joplin piece nicely.

  • @metachuh480
    @metachuh480 Před 3 měsíci

    would be nice to hear this comparison again with identical microphone setup 👍

  • @Cwar.
    @Cwar. Před 3 měsíci +1

    LORD primeiramente quero te agradecer por ser o único músico competente que existe no Brasil, e quero te pedir pra refazer o Tom de Tom e Jarry tocando piano.

  • @smadaf
    @smadaf Před 3 měsíci

    I'm curious to hear a similar video using grand pianos, with as much matching as you can of how open they are, the rooms they're in, and where the microphone is.

  • @T-J-S
    @T-J-S Před 2 měsíci

    I love that Mozart Sonata! I'm learning it

  • @hugomazariegos7406
    @hugomazariegos7406 Před 3 měsíci

    Nice, las melodías bellas....

  • @dvldog_
    @dvldog_ Před 3 měsíci

    Both are amazing! Wonder what thing or things can make such a huge difference?

  • @remco7226
    @remco7226 Před 3 měsíci

    I love the painting

  • @DudokX
    @DudokX Před 3 měsíci +2

    Old one sounds almost like a Cimbal aka Cimbalom which I like.

  • @JohnatanFahrenty
    @JohnatanFahrenty Před 3 měsíci +1

    Os dois tem sons belos mas sem dúvidas o de 1800s pareceu se encaixar melhor com essas músicas, principalmente O Rag que ficou bem interessante!

  • @marcdavidson9853
    @marcdavidson9853 Před 3 měsíci

    @Lord_Vinheteiro it would be nice to hear more covers from you🎉. That pure and full sound of your piano it’s better than most recordings on youtube. Lord Vinheteiro, if you hear me please do a full Eric Satie Gymnopedie cover on your wonderfull piano ❤.

  • @DAG.......
    @DAG....... Před 3 měsíci

    Buenas noches maestro, toque por favor algo de Charly García ❤💪🇦🇷💪

  • @Mr.Facebox
    @Mr.Facebox Před 3 měsíci +2

    There is a huge difference in the room sound as recorded by the mics. Modern is almost direct clean sound, while the classic sounds like mics were more distance from the piano. Not super fair comparison.

  • @debroahhammond1349
    @debroahhammond1349 Před 3 měsíci

    Love this guy

  • @glenmoss02
    @glenmoss02 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Joplin, on the 1800s piano, just fits like a glove. 👍

  • @lilianacastellanos1914
    @lilianacastellanos1914 Před 3 měsíci

    so amazing

  • @lcastillo6537
    @lcastillo6537 Před 3 měsíci

    Otimo, perfeito

  • @ernesto8466
    @ernesto8466 Před 3 měsíci

    Eres un auténtico virtuoso,! cómo te admiro!,por cierto,el sonido del piano moderno es claramente mejor.

  • @bapgames4684
    @bapgames4684 Před 3 měsíci

    Parabéns

  • @yashiro798
    @yashiro798 Před 3 měsíci

    Por um momento pareceu que iria tocar Wood Carving Patita, da OST de Casylrvania SoTN.

  • @PaulWrightHome
    @PaulWrightHome Před 3 měsíci +1

    I mostly hear a difference in the recording. There is much more room sound in the 1800s one, which makes me think either the microphone setup was different or one room had more echo.

  • @robertogarcia3054
    @robertogarcia3054 Před 3 měsíci

    Me gusta mucho el plano

  • @jhonwask
    @jhonwask Před 3 měsíci

    I like the crisp, bright sound of the old piano, in fact, I love the fortepiano.

  • @N.K.S.R-PIANIST
    @N.K.S.R-PIANIST Před 3 měsíci

    Lord eu não sei oque tem esse seu Piano Vertical Yamaha Mais o Som dele é Incrivel, Ele é Muito Rico E bem assentuado É até mais Poderoso que um Piano de Cauda, Me diga qual é o Segredo.

  • @giselaloraine
    @giselaloraine Před 3 měsíci

    Maravilhoso!

  • @fransergiodelgado
    @fransergiodelgado Před 3 měsíci

    Percebi mais diferença de ambiente do que do piano.
    O piano antigo está numa sala com muito mais eco, enquanto a sala onde se encontra o piano moderno está com uma acústica abafada.

  • @pierredelapotterie5996
    @pierredelapotterie5996 Před 3 měsíci +4

    There's an obvious different, but how do you describe it? It feels like the sound produce by modern piano seems a little muted? While the old piano there's some form of reverb?

    • @CelliniCreations
      @CelliniCreations Před 3 měsíci +8

      I hear it as the modern piano has a more full, rounded tone while the older one is very thin or sharp (tonally, not musically)

  • @marcor.8106
    @marcor.8106 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Reverences from Italy vinheteiro!! Apart from all, Joplin's rag retains its charm on the 19th century piano!

  • @user-dp7dk5ls9n
    @user-dp7dk5ls9n Před 3 měsíci +4

    Each instrument has its own highlight.😍🤩

  • @musicbraz
    @musicbraz Před měsícem

    Musicas compostas para o piano de 1800 soam muito melhor do que em pianos novos obviamente pelo fato do compositor tomar como referência esses timbres!👍

  • @lovemommybaby
    @lovemommybaby Před 3 měsíci

    I always preferred bright!!

  • @tatigomes1621
    @tatigomes1621 Před 3 měsíci

    Em musicas mais "tristes" o som do Piano Moderno é melhor aos ouvidos enquanto as musicas que passam uma sensação de alegria combina com o som do Piano Antigo. Alguém sabe me dizer o porque ? Gosto muito de Piano e outros instrumentos mas ainda não sei tocar nenhum, não tive a oportunidade de começar até agora.

  • @virginiavaleri2559
    @virginiavaleri2559 Před 3 měsíci

    Sicuramente nulla da paragonare il bel suono caldo sul pianoforte antico... dà un senso di originalità al brano sei sempre il migliore!!! Il quadro che hai di sfondo lo riconosco: é di Albert Edwin Flury

  • @tarstakars
    @tarstakars Před 3 měsíci +3

    Well I can definitely tell you which one scott Joplin sounds best on.😊

  • @leonardomarzi8075
    @leonardomarzi8075 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Pineapple rag com certeza no piano de 1800.😊😊

  • @tpertux
    @tpertux Před 3 měsíci

    as someone who really cherishes sounds (except the ukelele, i have trauma associated with that), i really like the modern piano's sounds, but in the ragtime example, the tinny-ness and tone really fit the melody being played. it's amazing how one instrument can sound entirely different with a slightly different build!

  • @FrikiObsoleto
    @FrikiObsoleto Před 3 měsíci +1

    Sounds more brighter the vintage than the modern.

  • @vladimirzuvanov8229
    @vladimirzuvanov8229 Před 3 měsíci

    Sehr gut.

  • @robertshrewsbury5067
    @robertshrewsbury5067 Před 2 měsíci

    That was a good comparison to think of. The older piano sounds more like a plucked one to me, a Clavicle?, so the sound is different.

  • @JF-wp2rz
    @JF-wp2rz Před 3 měsíci

    I prefer the old one because my grandmother used to have a similar one and it's really nostalgic to me.

  • @matiaserp
    @matiaserp Před 3 měsíci +1

    Was the audio recorded the same way, like same mic and same distance? Because differenced in this would make a huge difference.

    • @balleron24z
      @balleron24z Před 3 měsíci

      1800's sounds like cam mic in mono, modern piano is in stereo and sounds like it was recorded with proper gear. So, this isn't an apples to apples comparison.

  • @user-kl4ci7ug9d
    @user-kl4ci7ug9d Před 3 měsíci

    Спасибо, Лорд.
    От звука старых фортепьяно у меня на языке металлический привкус. 😁
    Но как вы сыграли капельку Шопена!!! 🌹 🌹 🌹

  • @MATHERALUS1976
    @MATHERALUS1976 Před 3 měsíci +2

    O piano moderno parece mp3, o antigo parece vinil, o primeiro soa comprimido o segundo muito mais sonante e expressivo.

  • @vitorkk328
    @vitorkk328 Před 3 měsíci +463

    Not trying to be edgy, but I prefer the sound of the 1800s piano

    • @ChanceTM
      @ChanceTM Před 3 měsíci +45

      Same. Has a more "Classical" sound to it, considering it was what it was originally played on.

    • @st.ricardomilos5117
      @st.ricardomilos5117 Před 3 měsíci +27

      Nothing edgy about that, I prefer it too. It just sounds better

    • @M_SC
      @M_SC Před 3 měsíci +9

      @@ChanceTMno, that’s not the type of instrument the prices were originally played on

    • @djshiroi9708
      @djshiroi9708 Před 3 měsíci +13

      Me too, its much better to hear, and also the sound is so much clear! 😊❤❤

    • @Blacksquareable
      @Blacksquareable Před 3 měsíci +11

      Me too. It's how those pieces would have sounded, originally.

  • @nathalie_desrosiers
    @nathalie_desrosiers Před 3 měsíci

    I love the Scott Joplin book in the background...

  • @rafaelbento2011
    @rafaelbento2011 Před 3 měsíci

    Para algumas músicas eu prefiro o som do piano de 1800, pra outras eu já acho q o som do Moderno encaixaria melhor. Mas não importa mto o som e sim a habilidade do pianista (minha opinião).

  • @sven711
    @sven711 Před 3 měsíci

    Hearing that difference I really would be interested to hear different titles played on the instruments of their time. So basically how they had been written initially. Or do you have such video already?

  • @NOLANRYANHOSKINS
    @NOLANRYANHOSKINS Před 2 měsíci +1

    Older Pianos still have a similar sound to that of a harpsichord, at least to me it sounds much closer as the modern piano branches out almost having its own unique sound.

  • @CaioAlencar
    @CaioAlencar Před 3 měsíci

    Já não se fazem mais pianos quanto em 1.800!