1 Year After Total Knee Replacement

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  • čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
  • I had a total knee replacement on February 2nd 2018. This is my 1 year post op update. The whole process for me went very well. My post op pain was minimal and I am in little to no pain now. I can pretty much do anything now. Thank God for Science!

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  • @gloriapeel6887
    @gloriapeel6887 Před 5 lety +17

    I had my total knee replacement two months ago. I am getting along fine . I wanted my life back and I am getting there. So glad you are doing good. I have a great physical therapist. And I do all my exercises at home also.

  • @josephboyett992
    @josephboyett992 Před 5 lety +5

    I have both knees replaced and I can hike about 7-8 miles comfortably. This summer my son and I are going to do the Rae Lakes Loop from Onion Valley and Kearsarge Pass. Looking forward to the trip. Trying to get in shape now. I’m with you, in that I love my new knees but they are still not like my real knees. I’m 63 years old and still going. Hope to enjoy many more years of hiking.

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 5 lety

      Awesome! If you can still backpack then the surgery was a success. I managed to crank out a 16 mile day 8 months post op but it hurt. The new knee performed flawlessly. Lighten the load and learn how to use your hiking poles to their maximum efficiency and you are good to go. The Rae Lakes are the highlight of that loop. Consider a couple days there and a wander around nearby 60 lakes basin.

  • @markoverland7748
    @markoverland7748 Před 5 lety +11

    Thanks for the great video. I'm 7 years with first knee TKR. It's tererric! Second one in 6 weeks. Looking forward to the journey. No two people alike, but just do the exercises. I actually got even better at 2 to 3 years. Don't even think of it any longer. It's a miracle!

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 5 lety +1

      I love mine so far and am confidently going to get the second one done in 1-2 years. My primary care doc today tried to sell me on stem cells at $1000 a pop. I'm bone on bone so no point. Just using cortisone injections for now. I know they degrade the knee long term but I'm replacing it anyway and injections cost me 15 dollars.

    • @ayuningsih9609
      @ayuningsih9609 Před 3 měsíci

      Are you saying once you had knock knee surgery you will have to do every several years the rest of life?

  • @teresalane5086
    @teresalane5086 Před 4 lety +5

    Glad you mentioned the footwear. Makes a huge difference!

  • @jondstewart
    @jondstewart Před 10 měsíci

    Your testimony was very uplifting! I got my right knee replaced last March, it was 100% bone on bone in the medial and middle part. I’m 55 and haven’t been able to run at all or walk without limping since I was 50-51. First time I ever had surgery. I don’t remember going down with the anesthesia at all, just being doped up on benzos for half an hour or so. When I was hauled to the operating room, I was told by the CRNA to sit up straight, hold my head down, put my elbows to my chest, felt a pin prick, got numb the waist down, and nothing after that when I laid down. I was delighted the pain wasn’t that bad and got to stay in the hospital 3 nights working with a physical therapist three times a day, plus Percocet, Valium, flexeril, and an ice chest with a compression hose were my best friends the first week.
    Long story short, straightening the knee out is the worst part of physical therapy. I’m 7 months out now. It’s still a little swollen, tender, numb, warm to the touch, and my thighs still feel a little weak, but I’d take this over what I had. I was going to get knee number 2 done a few weeks ago, but tested positive for MRSA and didn’t want to and decided to wait until March of next year.

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 10 měsíci +1

      Well hopefully the worst is over with and it will continue to get better. I really miss running but I can walk and sleep pain free. You’ll get there too!

  • @Nevertoosweet2eat
    @Nevertoosweet2eat Před 5 lety +5

    Thank you Capt. Ape Man I wish my husband had seen your video. Although my husbands pain was extreme, yes everyone has different levels. He is not one to take narcotic meds. He did phenomenal in rehab and he is also one who did more then necessary. He had to have his knee drained twice because of his Klingon mentally . With in three months he could bring his heel to his butt, great range. He lost a considerable amount of muscle mass in his thigh. He finds this disturbing. I keep telling him it’s only been three months! Ready to send him back to Qo’onS. Thank you you this Captain, hope you add more to your log in this following year. 🖖

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 5 lety +3

      Send your husband to the pleasure planet of Risa for some R& R and he will be fine. The muscle mass will come back as he’s able to do more weight bearing stuff. I just got back from a 20 mile backpacking trip that involved some serious off trail bouldering involving a lot of being on my hands and knees and big steps and some jumping off stuff. My knee performed flawlessly. Sounds like your husband has great flexibility which is really important. Carry on!

  • @theg-man7868
    @theg-man7868 Před 5 lety +2

    Thanks for the update, great to see how well it’s gone and for bringing awareness. I’m two weeks into rehab and apart from the swelling and stiffness all is ok. No pain to talk of, lack of sleep yes but that’s coming. Uncomfortable when I do the exercises, yes, but that’s going the right way. Already feel so much more stable, and the relief to be pain free is priceless. First week was very uncomfortable, but every day now I feel stronger and know I’m going the right way and made the correct decision. I did wait for several years until I pushed the surgical button and am very glad I did it. All the best from the UK. Can’t wait to get back out hiking and fishing. 🇬🇧

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 5 lety +1

      Thanks for sharing. Congrats on your recovery! The outdoors are calling you!

  • @arriciaslaton8576
    @arriciaslaton8576 Před 5 lety +2

    Congratulations!! In a few weeks, I will be having bilateral partial knee replacement. Encouraging and motivational words.

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 5 lety +2

      Good luck! A positive attitude really helps!

  • @davidharwood9552
    @davidharwood9552 Před 5 měsíci

    I had my 2nd knee replacement December 2023. This put pressure on my 1st knee replacement. Walking is challenging. The pain has gone but a long way to go on healing. It’s a long journey. My sister is 2 1/2 years after both her knee operations. She said it was 2 years before she did not have to compensate and not think she had knee replacement.

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 5 měsíci

      Hang in there! Every week things will get a little better! Good luck!

  • @Peacheslaroo
    @Peacheslaroo Před měsícem +1

    Love your presentation!

  • @trailkrum6750
    @trailkrum6750 Před 5 lety +2

    Feeling confident in your doctor is paramount (3 ACL reconstructions here) -- awesome to hear about your recovery!

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 5 lety +1

      It was 30 years ago but my ACL construction was actually more painful and harder to recover from than my tkr. I hope that isn’t in your future.

  • @sallywaters435
    @sallywaters435 Před 5 lety +2

    Hi I'm getting a total knee replacement in the next coming weeks I had both hips replaced my knee is bone on bone I'm looking forward to getting my life back I was very active person and I can't wait I'm delighted your doing well I have a brilliant surgeon which I trust completely God bless

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 5 lety

      Trust in your doctor is paramount. It’s hard but keep a good attitude and know that better days are ahead. You will get your life back and have a lot of fun passing through metal detectors.

    • @sallywaters435
      @sallywaters435 Před 5 lety

      @@ApeMan thank u so much for ur reply I have been stopped on many occasions looking forward to my day God bless

  • @MS4323
    @MS4323 Před 4 lety +7

    Thank you for making these videos. You provided encouragement and hope. I’m a very active person who’s knees brought me to a stop. I had bi-lateral TKR and it was very challenging for the first 10 weeks. 9 months after surgery, PT, and exercise, I’m back to being active me! These are mechanical knees, not real, but they work and life is good.

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 4 lety +1

      M & S Jones Congrats! Yup they aren’t real but they work and the pain of the old knees is gone!

  • @anniekostka956
    @anniekostka956 Před 5 lety +1

    Hi ape man. Thanks so much for the update. So glad you're doing well. I had my left knee done on valentines day last year . I followed your vids and you certainly helped me along. I'm also fine. I work as a melker on a dairy farm in germany. Every shift I walk between 17,000 and 20,000 steps. The only thing I really can't do is climb over iron gates. I tried it once and twisted my knee. I thought it had come apart the pain was momentarily so intense I felt sick. Anyway I'm so glad I had the knee replacement I really am. Night times in bed it's still a bit sore but I can't complain. I've also got my life back. And I don't think I would have recovered so quickly without your vids so thanks again. All the very best annie

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 5 lety +1

      Annie - You did it all on your own but thanks for coming along for the ride. That's a lot of steps a day. So glad you had a good outcome! I have a very physical job also and have been ok. It's not perfect but I can do all the things I want to. I had a weird thing happen a month ago where I couldn't straighten my leg all of a sudden without excruciating pain. I forced it and there was like a pop and the pain vanished. It was like a tendon or something got stuck and I unstuck it. When I retire in a couple of years I'm seriously considering some type of vape pen pot oil delivery system for sleeping. I don't use drugs of any kind but on a hiking trip a friend offered me this and I slept like a baby in 20 degree weather on the ground. Greetings and good thoughts from the USA. Ignore the temporary lapse in our leadership. It is not who most of us are.

  • @trilbyarnold3341
    @trilbyarnold3341 Před 5 lety +2

    Congratulations on such a success with your knee. I've several friends who have had knee surgery, none regret it. Happy Trails.

  • @davidterrie7661
    @davidterrie7661 Před 5 lety +1

    I started turning the corner at 5-6 weeks. Now pushing PT and home rehab hard before I hit the three month mark. Still some patella tracking issues, but I'm told this will resolve. Hoping to hike in SEKI this fall. There is no free lunch in this deal. But rehab effort is key. Terry is right about the knee feeling perfectly natural. The best result is high function. Gotta say, my knee had been compromised for so long that a natural feel was never coming back. Your brain will need to adjust to what is now possible without pain.
    Also, nice uni bro.😀

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 5 lety

      Glad to hear you are on the mend! If you can comfortably hike the hill off Sofia Parkway at 3 months I am confident you will be good to go for SEKI. My knee is a solid hiking knee now with no pain when hiking. I walk normally now. Just think what we were doing to our bodies hobbling along the jmt.

  • @williamforbes8461
    @williamforbes8461 Před 5 lety +2

    Was the most helpful videos for getting through my knee replacement. Very grateful tks

    • @kimperes5987
      @kimperes5987 Před 5 lety +1

      Thank you! I just found your channel. I am 20 days post op from TKR left knee. My goal is to resume hiking and walking. No marathons for me before or after TKR.

  • @keithscott8187
    @keithscott8187 Před 4 lety +1

    Thanks for sharing.
    It has been 10 months since I had total knee replacement surgery on my right knee.
    I don't have full range yet.
    I'm doing home exercises and I would like to get back to roller skating.

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 4 lety

      Hope to see you on skates again!

  • @johnterry9095
    @johnterry9095 Před 5 lety +2

    Just want to say Ape man your video"s are inspiring I started watching when making a decision on my knees. You are correct it's only done if really needed. It's not the same as a real knee. But the pain is gone and it is and can be life changing. I had both knees done at the same time. This was the best solution for me. It wasn't"t easy but...You must get in the best shape before surgery.You must do the physio, And you need a strong positive attitude. If you have family that can help that is key as well. I couldn't have done with out there support.
    Glad to hear your doing well...And thank you.Beam me up!

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 5 lety

      Thanks John and congrats on getting both done at the same time and getting it over with. My wife gave me a bell to ring when I needed help while I recovered. I still try to use it but she no longer responds to it.

  • @markshepherd7367
    @markshepherd7367 Před 17 dny

    6 months in for me and my knee is wonderful, no pain and it feels as good as my other knee. You must bend it a lot in the early weeks other wise you will get trouble with it. By the way l spent 10 days in hospital with it due to a blood problem with low platelets. The pain l had for the first week was very bad but boy l quickly got better and now it’s fantastic.

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 17 dny

      @@markshepherd7367 We are lucky that ours turned out so well! No swelling or pain 👍🏾 You are right - do the work and bending early. Yes it hurts like hell the first week but the end result is sooo worth it!

  • @dianecolumbus477
    @dianecolumbus477 Před 5 lety +5

    I can’t believe people would actually believe that you can predict their pain level. Everyone is different. My lady friend had knee replacement two days ago in Alaska and she has no pain hardly at all.
    By the way synvisc did nothing for me.

    • @pault477
      @pault477 Před 3 lety

      Was she still on the meds they gave her. Typically the blocks given during surgery take a few days to wear off.

  • @jaberwoky_
    @jaberwoky_ Před 5 lety +1

    Excellent and good luck with the other one! I'm six weeks into recovery and if it wasn't so swollen, it'd be close to perfect. I have 117 degrees range of motion, going up stairs is not a problem and I'm walking about 5,000 steps a day. I just returned from xray and it's pretty amazing to see the hardware. Regarding Synvisc - it was amazing when I first tried it about ten years ago but every year, it was less and less effective. Cortisone did nothing for me but Synvisc kept me on the ice until a couple of years ago. I had three injections a year and a couple went badly - the knee blew up to twice its size and the pain was intense. Again, congratulations and all the best moving on! I'm thinking I may be back on the ice in the fall!

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 5 lety

      Sounds good. The swelling will go away. Mine hardly swells at all unless I hike 10 miles. I’m still having success with the synvisc so will continue until it stops working. Hopefully you’ll be back on the ice soon!

  • @JohnnyTHolland
    @JohnnyTHolland Před 3 lety +1

    Great - nice and positive ! Some great tips too. Thanks Monsieur.

  • @debraseguin18
    @debraseguin18 Před 5 lety +3

    just had my surgery 5 days ago, i have no pain just stiffness. I also have to get the other one done, but thats for another day lol. I am enjoying your videos they give me lots of hope :)

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 5 lety +1

      Congrats on a successful outcome. It’s all about flexion and extension the first few weeks so do your exercises!

    • @petemills5704
      @petemills5704 Před 4 lety

      Debra's Crazy Life! No pain!..you’re hard!🤣

  • @JonathanClarkNorCal
    @JonathanClarkNorCal Před 5 lety +1

    Good upate, dig the shirt! T--dog keeps video-bombing you. What a cutie! You're right, everybody is different. AYK, mine required a revision one year later and I'm still healing up. Second knee to be done in a month. I cannot imagine having both done at once as a few peeps I've met have told me. There are significant 'lifestyle' limitations one has with just the one TKR to rehab and strengthen.

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 5 lety

      I wish I had done them both at the same time so I'd be done with it but it made more sense to do them one at a time so I can be somewhat mobile. I hate to depend on others before I have to wear depends!

    • @JonathanClarkNorCal
      @JonathanClarkNorCal Před 5 lety +1

      @@ApeMan No shit! :) (My daily double entendre).

  • @onkelsort5381
    @onkelsort5381 Před 5 lety +2

    All the best buddy, love your sincere videography. Hope to see more tripreports soon! Ok, beam me up Scotty, cya!

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 5 lety +1

      Got at least 2 trips planned already so yes there will be some new trip reports. Thanks for watching.

  • @philipmarsden1359
    @philipmarsden1359 Před 2 lety

    Thank you for your video comments which I can very much relate to having just had knee replacement surgery on 10th Feb.22. Here in the Uk.

  • @glennmarley6989
    @glennmarley6989 Před rokem +1

    Agree. At 4 months I ran a 5 K. No issues.

  • @DavidAsset78
    @DavidAsset78 Před 2 lety

    I, too, had very little pain. I think that's because I was in good physical shape BEFORE surgery ,and I had a good attitude about the whole process. I did not give in to bed rest, whenever I felt a slight pain. I kept working through it trying to re-establish my normal regiment. And I follow instructions and did all the exercises recommended daily.

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 2 lety

      Congrats on your recovery! Doing the work and a positive attitude help a lot!

  • @kani4mac
    @kani4mac Před 5 lety +3

    Thank you for all segments of your journey. You are and APE, MAN!

  • @kathyayinigr
    @kathyayinigr Před 6 měsíci

    Just saw your video. Well with me I am 62.5 yrs old. Both my knees are in stsge 4 orthoarthritis. Have consulted more than 8-10 doctors and feel that my life would be better after surgery. Used to work as associate prof of chemistry. Lot of standing. Now after retirement, past 60 I am worried of knees. I don't to do much phydical activity like the westeners. Also scared of surgery.

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 6 měsíci

      I put off the surgery for a few years because I was afraid too. But the constant pain and icing and trouble sleeping finally got me to do it. My life is so much better now and I can do whatever I want pain and swelling free! The surgery hurts for a couple weeks but they have great painkiller drugs to keep you comfy. Get you life back! Good luck on your journey!

  • @davidterrie7661
    @davidterrie7661 Před 5 lety

    Hi Terry. I'm four months out now and doing well. I had a lot more pain early on than you did, but I really turned a corner at 7-8 weeks. I'm training with my pack on on the trail around Folsom Lake, and the knee seems fine. I was a bit shaky at first, but the trail forces you to use your balance a lot and this has helped. I work on flexion hard every day. In addition to the chair exercise, I lie on my stomach with a leash looped around my foot and pull it hard over my back to and hold for 60 seconds. I repeat twice. Really helps stretch the whole quad. It's good to have a goal, and mine is being ready for the Big SEKI Loop in August. My leg still grabs a bit above the knee on bigger steps, but this is improving. You've been my Obi Wan.😀

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 5 lety

      So happy to hear you are doing better! I was so excited to be able to backpack last summer nearly pain free and take a normal stride again. I actually surprised myself how many miles I could cover. Think about the extra couple inches you get with every step of a normal stride. That adds up on a long hike. Even downhills were not a problem but I still was cautious with my steps even though I no longer have that horrible downhill pain. You are going to be amazed. You are doing all the work and it will pay off. And you are right that walking on a trail uses all the muscles that have atrophied since surgery. It takes a while for everything to start firing together. I maxed out at about 6 months and have had 0 setbacks and very little swelling anymore. Happy Trails!!!!

    • @davidterrie7661
      @davidterrie7661 Před 5 lety

      @@ApeMan I still have to concentrate on fully straightening my left leg when walking. Old habits hard to break. There's still that little voice that says don't do that, it will hurt.

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 5 lety

      I was terrified to try to run for 6 months. I can but it hurts a little so I don't. I still have the voice but it's fading. I still have to force myself to walk normally but on the trail it came naturally.

  • @gnohn9366
    @gnohn9366 Před 4 lety

    Thanks for the information. I’m An avid hiker/backpacker and having some knee problems that may lead to TKR in the future. I’m going to try everything before surgery, as you said.The is very little info out there on backpacking after knee replacement. You video helps a lot.

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 4 lety

      So far after 2 years my knee is going strong and hasn’t limited my backpacking at all. I did an off trail trip last summer. My only problem was really high steps which I had to just crawl over. It wasn’t because it hurt but because I don’t have full flexibility. Good luck

  • @rdpauley9824
    @rdpauley9824 Před 4 lety +2

    I’t’s been 3 months since my surgery, it’s better than before. I’m about 22 degrees on my bending make sure you do your Physical therapy take meds as needed. I’m 57 years old, going to have the other knee done before the year is over.

  • @oscarhuynh8066
    @oscarhuynh8066 Před 5 lety +1

    Glad to see it is a success and allows you to keep backpacking!

  • @fattpatt44
    @fattpatt44 Před 5 lety +3

    Thanks for the videos,I have seen them all including all the hiking videos and was wondering how your knee was doing. Glad to see you can run and jump.looks like I am having my knee done in November I just have to get through the summer.Ape Man keep up with the videos they are very helpful.

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 5 lety +1

      Hang in there. You will be glad you did it. Do whatever you want this summer because you can't make it any worse. You will be amazed and feel younger after you recover. Good luck!

  • @WhiteTiger333
    @WhiteTiger333 Před 5 lety

    Exactly three weeks until my left knee goes bionic. Too bad we don't have a sick bay to just run that bar thing up and down our leg and...instant awesome knee. :D But, through the early 21st century hospital it is. Great to get a sense of what the bionic knee can do one year out.
    Thank you so much for this video series. A complete inspiration to persevere aggressively...with confidence in the outcome!

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 5 lety +1

      I finally had my 1 year followup with my doctor - a little late. X-rays show everything in great shape. I was very hard on my new knee with lots of hiking and physical labor at work. I have total confidence in it now and my doc gave me no restrictions. He even told me I could resume downhill skiing but I think I will stick to cross country skiing and snow shoeing. It will take some work but it sounds like you already have the right mindset going in. At least we are in the 21st century! Even 50 years ago we would just be cripples in a rocking chair. "Do not go gentle into that good night!" Keep me posted on your progress.

  • @LADYKNICKOLE1
    @LADYKNICKOLE1 Před 5 lety

    hi, I had rt.(total) knee done end of November. I experienced same as you. getting my left on done( revision. ugh!) next week. can't wait to have it all behind me . thanks!

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 5 lety

      Best of luck to you!

    • @dianecolumbus477
      @dianecolumbus477 Před 5 lety

      nicole barrett I wish you the best. You are brave!

  • @daveinstlouis7296
    @daveinstlouis7296 Před 5 lety +1

    Heal up Ape Man, Love the wealth of knowledge you share with Everyone

  • @BikingHikingRadio
    @BikingHikingRadio Před 3 lety

    I turned 60 last week, and I am having my left knee replacement in 17 days (that's my b-day present I guess). I have a lot of apprehension about this, but I watched all of your videos tonight regarding your surgery through one year post-surgery. The time I spent tonight watching your videos has given me confidence that it will work out as well for me. You're an avid hiker (I'm going to watch your hiking videos now that I'm subscribed to your channel), and at age 56 I took up running and went from 320 lbs. to 220 lbs. and have run 17 half marathons and many other shorter races since 2016. Even today with all the pain in my knee I walked 5 miles this morning and going to do 4 interval miles tomorrow. I'm hoping by being active up to the surgery will put me in a better position for when I get this surgery done based on your progress from your replacement. I learned in 2016 that the word "can't" is no longer in my vocabulary and "I will" is what replaced "I can't". This will be my motto as well after the TKR. Whether I ever run again I'm not sure after surgery, but I loved trail running, so trail backpacking and also getting the walking sticks is also in my future as well after seeing your progress. Thanks again for your excellent videos dealing with your replacement. Very inspiring to me.

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 3 lety +1

      I put those videos out to inspire people like you but your story is even more inspiring. Losing 100 pounds and completing all those 1/2 marathons is way harder than the process of knee replacement. Being in shape will certainly help speed your recovery. Running took a while for me but I can still run but stay off the hard surfaces. I did a lot of street running and 10k’s and I’m pretty sure it contributed to my knee problems. Now hiking and trail running is all good! Get those hiking poles and hit the trails...in a few months. Good luck!

  • @stevep7785
    @stevep7785 Před 5 lety +3

    Nice update! Glad you had a positive overall experience.

  • @charlieboylol527
    @charlieboylol527 Před 2 lety +1

    Take care ,all the best 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @Radnally
    @Radnally Před 5 lety +4

    Isn't it great to get back your mobility!? Sounds great. Beam me up.

  • @claudialeahey7090
    @claudialeahey7090 Před 5 lety

    Just had simultaneous bilateral knee replacement. 2-5-2019
    I am in pain no doubt but like you I was in such tremendous pain in my right knee and my left was going the same way and I had postponed it too long and needed surgery now
    . So this pain From surgery will I make it and each day will get less. Right now the pain in my right is at times less than pre surgery.
    And for the first time in my life ( according to family observations) I don’t have bowed legs.. yippee..
    So doing this on my own.. a lot of work ahead, I know.
    Thanks for all your input
    Ps. Are you riding horses?
    That was one of my loves.

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 5 lety

      Congrats on getting it over with and good luck with your recovery. I haven’t ridden since surgery and since I’m no longer bow legged but I’m sure I could comfortably. I was a horse owner for a short time and as you know most time was spent taking care of them instead of riding them.

  • @briancarroll3288
    @briancarroll3288 Před 5 lety +1

    5 days post op, and I am off the pain med's, walking, stretching, flexing , icing, icing, icing, and the future looks bright, can't believe it has already happened and I writing this update to you. It seems like I am ready to walk that same trail. lol.

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 5 lety

      Great news Brian! Do your exercises and you will be on the trail in no time. Glad to hear it is going smoothly for you.

    • @dianecolumbus477
      @dianecolumbus477 Před 5 lety

      Brian Carroll you just gave me hope too! Glad your doing well!

  • @jestradabmw540i
    @jestradabmw540i Před 3 lety +1

    thanks for this video , im going through the same thing, time hills

  • @carolgarza2023
    @carolgarza2023 Před 3 lety

    I did vigorous water aerobics 6 months before my knee replacement. I went 3xs a week for 2 1/2 hours at a time
    I had my right knee replacement on 4/20/2021. The first 4-5 days were brutal but I iced a lot after exercises. I only took Tylenol extra strength for pain
    Today is my one month anniversary. My knee feels great!!! I don’t struggle getting up from a chair or from laying down.
    I continue my exercises at home and also have out patient therapy. My flexation is 130. I have very little pain but I am still healing and have stitches under my knee that are dissolving.
    I am 66 yrs young with severe RA for 20 yrs.
    I will have my left knee replacement hopefully in July, 1 1/2 months from today. Will find out in 2 weeks
    I hope to be able to do water aerobics in the near future before my left knee replacement
    I believe my pre op preparation of water exercises accelerated my recovery on my right knee. Grant it, my right knee will not be completely healed for some time.
    But already I am much more advanced than many people in my healing process thanks to my pre op and post op exercises
    Blessings and encouragement to all!

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 3 lety +1

      You are living proof that doing the work before and after surgery will result in faster healing and better results. Good luck on your knee journey! Mine are doing great and I’m back to playing softball and climbing mountains. Life is good!

  • @ostrobogulous4200
    @ostrobogulous4200 Před 3 lety

    Thanks, you have me a hint of what to expect

  • @kzzzzzzzzz7804
    @kzzzzzzzzz7804 Před 3 lety +2

    SO ENCOURAGING!!

  • @thomastaylor637
    @thomastaylor637 Před měsícem

    Thanks
    Live Long and Prosper

  • @adventuresofstitches
    @adventuresofstitches Před 5 lety +1

    Catching up on your videos...what a beautiful background! Where is this? Glad your knee surgery went well!

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 5 lety

      I live a mile from Folsom Lake so I film a lot of videos there. It's pretty when everything is green but in the summer it is a mess of people, power boats and 100 degree weather.

  • @debmetheral6596
    @debmetheral6596 Před 4 lety

    2 months out of surgery flexion of 125 pain was not pleasant but went down to 1 tramadol 50 mg only at therapy but therapy exercise is key you must do it!

  • @inthecrosshairs4480
    @inthecrosshairs4480 Před rokem

    One week out. Suffering like a, I don’t know what. EXCRUCIATING! Pissed at myself for doing it. Never again!

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před rokem

      Hang in there it will get better I promise!

  • @rudysal1429
    @rudysal1429 Před 5 lety

    If people were saying you were misrepresenting the amount of pain, they clearly don't understand that pain is subjective. I had meniscus surgery on both knees at the same time and I didn't even touch any medication prescribed to me except for some anti-inflammatory like ibuprofen for the swelling. Some people can't tolerate pain well though and could be in extreme pain.

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 5 lety

      Meniscus surgery is a breeze compared to a total knee replacement. Its not even remotely comparable. I didn’t bother even picking up my prescription after one of my meniscus surgeries and was playing soccer at full speed a week later. It sounds like we have a high pain tolerance. Everyone is different. Knee replacement surgery is one of the more painful surgeries and I definitely needed drugs to get me through the first week. For some it’s scary to do the rehab the first few weeks because it hurts so much and they have never experienced pain at that level. I embrace pain and learn to listen what it is telling me. Also many people may be old or frail and have a harder time with recovery. Pain sucks at any age but still being in my 50’s certainly helped me power through!

  • @lindabramy7040
    @lindabramy7040 Před 5 lety +9

    Love the videos. You should make up with Bones.

  • @noreenosullivan1986
    @noreenosullivan1986 Před 2 lety

    You told your story like you said every body is different
    All what you apply physical therapy. You get back.
    People have other .medical problems that may inhibit them,In their recovery ,example wear and tear in other joints ,hip back ankles,weight etc
    Hence different recovery times

  • @sharonhildenbrand1566
    @sharonhildenbrand1566 Před 5 lety

    Thanks so much for getting back with me. You’re right - I’m afraid of being in the wilderness alone, which is why we were looking at the High Sierra Loop trail. We loved your trail suggestion, so we’ve altered our plans. We are flying in from Ohio and really like the idea of having an easier time getting a wilderness permit starting from Agnew Meadows and hiking into Yosemite. We’ll be flying in and out of Fresno, so after making our way from Agnew to Tuolumne, we thought we would spend a couple of nights at Tuolumne and then hike down to Yosemite valley for a few nights before heading back to Fresno via YARTS.
    So, our questions: Should we take the JMT from Tuolumne to the valley & camp at Sunrise? (We hope to do more of the JMT at some point.) - Or is there different route that you would recommend? Would the Inyo permit cover us all the way to the valley? - Or do we need a separate one for that? We would possibly like to include Half Dome, but we are not really sure what day we would be heading down. It would be nice to have a little flexibility - would a wilderness permit at Tuolumne cover Half Dome? Sorry, so many questions. We appreciate your time and welcome any advice or suggestions you can give us.
    Again, glad your surgery has helped & Happy Trails.

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 5 lety +1

      Hi Sharon
      Why don't you send me an email at apeman45@sbcglobal.net. I'll help with your trip planning. A few questions. What is your start date? How many miles are you comfortable hiking a day? How many days do you want to be on the trail? How many people in your group?

  • @carolthecrazycamper3442
    @carolthecrazycamper3442 Před 5 lety +2

    Your scar looks great

  • @jorgensen8
    @jorgensen8 Před 2 lety

    Emailed you before. Nice candid review.

  • @patriciavillareal6334
    @patriciavillareal6334 Před 3 lety

    I’m glad everything went well 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @perry9492
    @perry9492 Před 5 lety

    Good news. I figured that after a knee replacement you can't do much more and gently walk or your going to blow out the knee. I am overweight and knees are not happy. Not sure where my knees are but I expect a replacement is in my future.

  • @thomastompkins8602
    @thomastompkins8602 Před 5 lety +1

    I watched your six week video last week. I seem to be following a similar path.I stopped all opiates after four weeks and then tylenol after last week. There seems to be a steady diminishing of pain. I was able to drive and do shopping on my own after 3 weeks. I went back to swimming at 4 and1/2 weeks. I am at my seventh week and starting to get on a bike. Swimming and biking are my activities of choice. With the biking I get some initial pain and stiffness,, but it seems to improve as I go along I had my right knee done on Feb. 11, this year. Thanks for doing your videos which many of can use as a comparison reference. I also used a lot of vitamin and food supplement , that I researched to promoted healing and tissue repair.

  • @kevinpowers9024
    @kevinpowers9024 Před měsícem

    Did you have the Mako Robot assisted surgery? On your long hikes, all flat land hikes? Or, can you hike hills also?

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před měsícem

      I’m not sure about the robot surgery. I climb mountains and pretty much can do anything in the backpacking and hiking world. Google “ape man tallac” and you can see a mountain hike of 10 miles I did 2 weeks ago. No I’ll effects on my knees.

  • @billstrube3425
    @billstrube3425 Před 3 lety

    I am 70 years old and about to have both knees replaced at one time. I am not looking forward to the great amount of pain l will experience. I would not get this done, but unfortunately it is medically necessary. I can no longer walk more than about 50 feet.

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 3 lety

      They have great meds for pain control. A few months of rehab and you’ll be walking with no pain as far as you desire. Good luck on your journey!

  • @greenleavesofsummer9673

    I want to know what procedure was used? Mako (glue to bone) or Signature (screwed in bone), how soon the day of surgery did you walk? Look into what I had done first for arthritis. Using an A2M cocktail to rid the knee of arthritis.
    You heard right! Don’t ever have arthroscopic surgery where surgeon trims up, removes
    Meniscus. This just ushers you toward knee replacement. Find regenerative doctor.

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 2 lety

      Sorry I’m not sure which procedure I had but happy to report both knees are doing great and pain free. In my case as an athlete I tore an ACL so that knee was doomed. ACL reconstruction and a meniscus cleanup allowed 20 years of heavy use including distance running and team sports. The reconstruction put a stop to most of that but I still play softball. I just don’t run well with the reconstructed knees. The 2nd knee just wore out and had arthritis and was bone on bone and painful and the replacement helped with that and that knee is even better than the first and has given me no problems. I was easily walking around a week after surgery and returned to full duty at a physical job 2 months later. I don’t like to have to have 2 knee replacements but it has given me more mobility and taken away the pain and anti inflammatory pill popping and I have been very happy with the results.

  • @pele-moshec2552
    @pele-moshec2552 Před 3 lety

    Happy for you ! Can you elaborate on what you can in terms of sports activities and how flexible is your knee movement? . I hope dancing is possible after knee replacement

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 3 lety

      Flexion isn’t great at around 125 but I’m hiking and backpacking and playing softball. I can’t run fast but no pain or limitations really. I’m much more active than the average 62 year old and I feel fortunate I’m able to do everything I want

  • @hannahcoleman2940
    @hannahcoleman2940 Před rokem

    Thank you, you have given me hope🙏☘️💚

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před rokem

      You got this! It’s so worth it! Good luck!

  • @OldSchoolPrepper
    @OldSchoolPrepper Před 4 lety +1

    hiya Capt. i think your flexion is about 125 degrees, that's awesome! how can you misrepresent your own pain? you didn't....it's your story, not everyone;s. thanks for the info, taking the husband in for his new knee tomorrow.

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 4 lety +1

      Hope it goes well! Good luck!

  • @mboisoli
    @mboisoli Před 4 měsíci

    I'm 6 weeks out from TKR. I am an avid hiker/backpacker. Do you avoid steep trails ? eg. Would you hike a trail with an average grade of 20 % ?

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 4 měsíci

      I have no limitations and frequently climb Sierra peaks and backpack on and off trails. I step a little more carefully but I have no pain and very little swelling. My hiking poles help a lot on those steep sections.

  • @brianronne2060
    @brianronne2060 Před 5 lety +1

    If I ever use my SOS button while backpacking the Sierra , I expect u to beam me aboard the enterprise

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 5 lety

      Ha ha! I will make it so!

  • @joaovitormatiola8995
    @joaovitormatiola8995 Před 5 lety +1

    Thanks for this video!

  • @dianecolumbus477
    @dianecolumbus477 Před 5 lety +1

    Oh so you live in beautiful California.
    Well I’m going to have my surgery the latter part of July 2019 in Clearwater, Florida. Trying to get in shape for it in every way.
    Did you have the machine afterwards that massages your leg that’s cool and keeps the swelling down?

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 5 lety

      I agree, California is beautiful and a great place to live if you enjoy the outdoors like I do. I did not have.a massage machine. That sounds awesome! I did have the motion machine to flex my knee slowly while I laid around. That was soothing to me. July in Florida? Crank up the air, make sure your streaming video services are up to date and yes try to get in shape. Good luck!

  • @johntrueconservative2547

    Lol
    I was going to say something about your Star Trek shirt
    But you beat me to it

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před rokem

      Live long and prosper

  • @safihaider
    @safihaider Před 9 měsíci

    Thanks for the Video Captain!! I know this is four years ago. Hope you see this comment and respond.
    I'm 66 Male, from Vancouver Canada.
    I'm five weeks post right TKR. I have about 130 degree flexion and about 3 degrees from flat. Some pain when I walk long distances and exhausting. Swelling hasn't gone down much though.
    Pain is minimal, I can climb some stairs unaided and walk about a kilometer unaided. I know everyones' progress is different, however, you think my progress is normal?
    Also would it be safe to start basketball or Tennis once I have the stability, muscle build up and strength? or is it too risky to ever play?
    Your Trekky videos are awesome as I am fan as well. I look forward to her from you soon.
    Say hello to the crew!!

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 9 měsíci

      Sounds like you are doing well. Keep on being active. Your swelling should subside. Stay active and build up those muscles. Jumping or jarring activities probably should be avoided to prevent premature wear but that is a personal decision. I can run but mostly choose not to and walk and hike instead. Basketball is probably pushing it but tennis or pickle ball should be ok. I play some softball and run playing that but it’s a risk I choose because it’s mostly not jarring but does have some running. It’s your journey. You have all those beautiful areas around Vancouver. Put on that raincoat and get out there!

  • @tabbywanjiro9598
    @tabbywanjiro9598 Před 8 měsíci

    Had TKR right months ago and the knee won't bend or stretch. Have done all necessary exercises as advised by the physiotherapist. What do I do?

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před měsícem

      Any improvements? Fingers crossed!

  • @lrf8230
    @lrf8230 Před 4 lety

    Thanks for sharing

  • @lindabramy7040
    @lindabramy7040 Před 5 lety

    Love the videos. Do you have a prediction for the 2019 trails given the California fires?

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 5 lety

      Fire is not the issue this year until September or October. We have a shit ton of snow on the ground and more coming. Water crossings and snowy passes will be the norm through mid July at least. Too early to predict in detail but I'll put out a video around the end of March with an update.

  • @ayuningsih9609
    @ayuningsih9609 Před 3 měsíci

    How are your knees right now? After 4years? Please please update

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 3 měsíci

      Both knees are fantastic and pain and swelling free. I’m hard on them with lots of hiking with 0 problems!

  • @michaeljoyce2644
    @michaeljoyce2644 Před 6 měsíci

    So it still hurts some? 35 miles backpacking! Really?

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 6 měsíci

      Actually very little pain even after long hikes and no swelling!

  • @abrad3061
    @abrad3061 Před rokem

    Why could you not sleep and how old were you when you got it done. I'm 57 and having my surgery in a few months

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před rokem +1

      I couldn’t sleep well before surgery because I had pain in my knee even laying down. No pain anymore and both knees are working great. I was 58 when I had my first replacement so very similar to your situation. Best of luck to you!

    • @abrad3061
      @abrad3061 Před rokem

      @@ApeMan thanks

  • @pyramidoutburst9505
    @pyramidoutburst9505 Před 5 lety

    good to hear you're healing well. when you stuck your leg up to show your flexibility it looks like you have football player calf muscles

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 5 lety

      My calfs shrunk since I had knee issues. It's genetic and my daughter has them too. It came in handy for the sports I played in my youth that destroyed my knees. Tore my ACL playing softball at 30 and the rest is just wear and tear from having too much fun. I wouldn't change a thing.

  • @johnbrian118
    @johnbrian118 Před 2 lety

    Thanks for the advice. I had my tor 2 weeks ago. What did you mean about the better footwear and why could you not wear ultra light footwear?

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 2 lety +1

      Your feet and shoes are another shock absorber for your knees. I just like good fitting shoes and always replace the inserts with something like SOLS or Super Feet.

    • @johnbrian118
      @johnbrian118 Před 2 lety

      @@ApeMan gotcha. Thanks Ape Man. I meant TKR btw which I had just over 3 weeks ago. Feeling tons better all around
      Thanks again for the inspiring video s!

  • @Salamander407
    @Salamander407 Před rokem +1

    I love the pisitive vids.

  • @gosman949
    @gosman949 Před 5 lety

    Your other knee must not be too bad. Both of my knees are bad but I will only be doing one on June 2019. The other one sometime afterwards. My big concern is how to rehab the first knee when the second knee is bad too!? But my Dr. will not do both knees at the same time. And I'm not sure I would want them both done at the same time.

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 5 lety +1

      I was told 5 years ago that my other knee needs replacement too. I still have full flexibility so just going to deal with it for a couple more years. It's better to do them one at a time but it sure would be nice to get it over with it. Good luck with your surgery.

    • @dianecolumbus477
      @dianecolumbus477 Před 5 lety +1

      Jay G. Sending you some good wishes for a good recovery.

  • @jimsaddler942
    @jimsaddler942 Před 5 lety +1

    Enjoyed your video. I had both of my knees replaced last year: One in May, the other in September. I went through PT and did all the exercises faithfully. I have no pain now and I'm able to bend both knees easily. However, I can't even imagine trotting just a few yards. I still have stiffness/pain going up and down stairs, and it's very hard to stand up after sitting in a chair. I need some "adjustment time" before I can begin walking. I walk the dog twice per day (1.5 miles each) with no problem. My main concern right now is the stiffness (not the flexibility) I'm having. I was wondering if you feel the same way, and if you are still doing any stretching/flexibility exercises a year after surgery.

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 5 lety +1

      Hi Jim. I waited too long to finally get my knee done and I was in so much pain that my new knee seems great. I definitely am stiff after sitting and it takes a few steps to get going. I no longer do any icing or stretching. I do go to the gym very sporadically and I have a very active job as an irrigation technician and arborist. It's a challenge sometimes. Running feels really weird and I avoid it as much as possible. I still kind of baby my knee even though I'm very active. I returned to hiking and backpacking and am more capable on the trail with the new knee since my old one didn't have full extension. I managed a 16 mile day last summer and have a couple fairly vigorous trips planned this summer. Mine hasn't changed for the better or worse from about the 6 month post op point. I just do the best I can with what I got.
      I was afraid to even try running for a long time. I have no problem going up and down stairs but there are times of the day where I'm stiff and it's harder. I think hiking up and down thousands of feet on the trail helped me. I still have some pain occasionally too but nothing like before. It's different for everyone. I'm very determined and stubborn to do as much as I can and have a pretty high tolerance to pain.
      I guess my point is we just have to get used to the new normal. At my 1 year appointment my doc said I could do anything I want including skiing. One step at a time. Hang in there!

  • @dianecolumbus477
    @dianecolumbus477 Před 5 lety

    Great follow up! Where is that beautiful place you live?

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 5 lety

      That is Folsom Lake State Park which is a few minutes from my house. It’s a powerboat zoo in the summer but nice and quiet in the winter.

  • @FaadumoArdo
    @FaadumoArdo Před 5 lety +1

    I am afraid to go knee replacement. When is the best time season to go surgery?

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 5 lety +2

      Well for me I did it in the winter when the weather sucks. That way I was healed up by spring and could get outside and do all the things I like to do.

    • @sharonmelrose8552
      @sharonmelrose8552 Před 2 lety

      @@ApeMan I did my surgery in January so that all I focused on was my recovery and excercise and so that I would be able to enjoy getting outdoors in the spring and summer.

  • @nullnull1981
    @nullnull1981 Před 3 lety

    Very inspiring, by the way which hospital and doc?

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 3 lety

      Dr Guy Guilfoy has done an amazing job on both knees. First knee was at Mercy Hospital and 2nd was outpatient and home the same day at a surgery center.

  • @angiehazelaar
    @angiehazelaar Před 3 lety

    Hi everyone, i am having simultaneous bilateral TKR in 3 weeks and would love to find a group of people or forum where POSITIVE support and information is shared. I need advice as I am loosing my nerve and thinking about cancelling it

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 3 lety

      On my first knee replacement I realized after the surgery that I wasted several years of pain free walking and postponed it too long. Get your life back.

    • @angiehazelaar
      @angiehazelaar Před 3 lety

      @@ApeMan thank you I appreciate you reply

  • @jeanettevandernest3453

    How does a knee revision look inside after 1 year

  • @rexthebest6030
    @rexthebest6030 Před 2 lety

    You didnt mention anything about numbness in the lateral part of knee or maybe you dont have any?

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 2 lety +1

      I had some numbness in my upper thigh above the knee but not around the knee. I would guess some nerve endings get severed during surgery? That’s a question for your doc. Good luck

  • @thetechnician7337
    @thetechnician7337 Před 19 dny

    Was you Doctor Leonard McCoy?

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 19 dny

      @@thetechnician7337 No I requested one of his assistants perform the surgery because I didn’t want to risk my wife having to hear “He’s dead Jim”

  • @kristinee328
    @kristinee328 Před 4 lety +1

    Has kneeling gotten better? I had a TKR and resurfaced knee cap and it feels so fragile to kneel still after 5 months Love the backpacking vids!

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 4 lety +2

      Yes but it took some time and confidence to kneel. It felt weird and fragile at first but I kneel often now with no problems. In fact I knelt on it for an hour on concrete just today working on an irrigation clock.

    • @kristinee328
      @kristinee328 Před 4 lety

      @@ApeMan Confidence is a great choice of words. Thanks!

  • @joycedebolt5233
    @joycedebolt5233 Před 5 lety

    What kind of compression brace do you use to prevent swelling when hiking?

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 5 lety +1

      Just over the counter braces. They have no support but just compress your knee and push the swelling out. You still have fluids but they go to your thigh or lower leg and allow your knee to function better. When I get to where I’m going I can ice it or soak it in a cold stream.

    • @jennifermikuluk2357
      @jennifermikuluk2357 Před 2 lety

      I wear the same, like a compression sleeve for my 12 hour work shifts, RN. Post op 4 months. The long shifts are still difficult and I can only work 2-12’s in a row for now.

  • @denieledwards6893
    @denieledwards6893 Před 5 lety +1

    YOU HAVE A NICE DOG YOU SHOULD INTRODUCE HIM TO US KNEE PEOPLE LOL

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 5 lety +2

      He bites! He’s 13, old and senile like me.

  • @markstevens6682
    @markstevens6682 Před 7 měsíci

    Can’t think of any reason to hike 15 miles…

  • @mohammedfazil48
    @mohammedfazil48 Před 3 lety

    Sir i hv done a surgery my knee is tottaly stiffed from past 1 year and my knee cartilage is tottaly gone it touched to each other and my rang of motion is 5 degree only from past 1 year and my doctor said me that now i hv to go though knee replacement then i can reach 90degree so i just wanted to ask u is it possible to get 90degree my age is 21 years

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 3 lety

      I’m not a doctor but at your age getting to anything well above 5degrees will be a life changer. Normally the goal after knee replacement is 120 degrees but I don’t know your situation. Good luck!

    • @sharonmelrose8552
      @sharonmelrose8552 Před 2 lety

      @@ApeMan I was told the goal was 120 degrees too but it depends on your range of motion before surgery according to my orthopaedic surgeon. I went for my 5 month followup and I am at 111 and had to push physio really hard to get to that point. I thought I was doing poorly but my surgeon told me that I am doing well and not to expect too much more degree of flexion at this point. I am still pushing physio though hoping that I gain a few more degrees by 6 months as I am told after 6 months you don't gain much more degrees of bend.

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 2 lety

      @@sharonmelrose8552 You are doing the work and that will pay off on the long run. Good job and good luck!

  • @pault477
    @pault477 Před 3 lety

    Did you have hamstring stiffness at 6 months?

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 3 lety

      I did not. Stretching exercises may be helpful. Good luck

  • @bobinhouston7638
    @bobinhouston7638 Před 3 lety

    Ape Man, can you share with me the brand name of your knee? Many thx, Bob in Houston

    • @ApeMan
      @ApeMan  Před 3 lety

      I’m sorry I do not know.

  • @DENIEL381
    @DENIEL381 Před 5 lety

    NO THANK THE DOCTORS AND THERE KNOWLEDGE.