Mick Lynch casually rinsing Tory MPs at their own Select Committee
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The Tories have ruined this country. The absolutely disgust me.
That's because they have sold out, not only transport, but health and education aswell
*_"The Tories have ruined this country."_*
So did Mick Lynch when he voted for Brexit.
{:o:O:}
@@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095 so did 17 million.
These are the sitting ducks occupying space getting paid for not using their braincells.
The cost of living has ruined the country,the unions got rid of Conservatives before and what did we get (Tony Blair).
Those Conservative party reps didn't stand a chance there.
They're terrified of well informed working-class people.
@David Withers
The tories biggest nightmare; a working class person with a library card.
I did notice the conservative party reps were more concerned with trying to score political points, push narratives and influence possible future negotiations by trying to pull information out that should be discussed in negotiations not in public.
Honesty is a Tories kryptonite
The tories hate an ‘in the know’ working class lad or lass. They hate it more than anything because their bullshit doesn’t stick.
thats why conservatives work all over the world to derail the educational systems. only informed citizens are able to contradict them.
Three honest men giving straight answers must be very confusing for the politicians.
you can tell they are confused.
The more I listen to the Trade union leaders the greater my respect, the more I listen to the Mps the lower my respect sinks,these Mps have been chosen to sit on select committees presumably because they have some interest in protecting the interests of the general public, in other words they are supposed to carry out their duty of care to us.
I believe the Trade union leaders are exhibiting their duty of care to their members and to the safety of the travelling public. I do not get the same response from many on this select committee .
Many of the unions are going to sell out the workers with pathetic pay 'deals' that will do nothing to halt the worst drop in living standards since the 1950s. It is not like this in many other countries. Government is to blame first and foremost but workers are ill served by many ineffective unions that are full of hot air and deliver little. The NEU may not reach the threshold for strike action, which speaks volumes about the lack of solidarity in education. Even if it does, it is advocating strike action which will end in a deal close to what the pay review body has recommended and the government has already accepted. The NEU issue is the fact government will not fund it in full which raises the prospect of redundancies in schools. But this is for the union to address not every single teacher it is leading into strike action that will achieve almost nothing in terms of pay.
That’s what they want you to think 🫣
@@upshankkumalu9301 No, it is a realistic assessment of how weak the unions are. Best not to get hopes up when low living standards are here to stay. I was a union rep. for 12 years in total in the 1990s and 2000s, and despite trying to help people it was overall a waste of time.
@@eightiesmusic1984 not at all! Unions are the Labour Party that’s the way it is just look at the Westminster accounts. They are trying to oust the Tory government that’s all!! they havnt got the best interests of this striking at heart they have alternative motives. They are asking for unrealistic amounts knowing they won’t be agreed to. You watch too much media! Drop
Of living standards for years you must be on a mother planet mate! 2008 much worse than now just more media about to peddle the BS. I was a rep meself got usdaw many years ago untill blair became PM then opened my eyes to the lies
@@upshankkumalu9301 Incorrect. A number of unions are not affiliated to the Labour Party. Statistical evidence ( look it up) shows that wages have fallen in real terms since 2008 and over the longer term.
If you can watch all of this you can see exactly what this Tory government is up to. We need to support all the Unions 100%
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Not just Tory all of this Parliament except one or two are corrupted
@@adamibrahim7338 What does that mean ?
@@JD-uq8iy says the one with 1 sub🥱🥱
Make strikes illegal
What about the little Tory Boy with the spotted tie? Not out of his nappies and hasnt got a clue 🤣🤣🤣
They look more like puppets - get them out of there
Hes my local councillor bloody useless
His jacket looked about five sizes too big for him
The union leaders are so articulate. Much clearer than the spin we get from politicians. This was very interesting and informative and I support the unions on their industrial action.
They have investments to make in weapons for Ukraine and rebuilding Ukraine.
Starmer could learn a lot about being calm, upfront and using facts like Lynch does.
I support them to starmer truly could but does he won’t to
The tories here can't even form a sentence, let alone an actual question.
To be fair these guys are the elected leaders of unions of working people that are firmly behind them. A politician is aiming to be elected by a much broader range of people so likely can't be as clear cut without risking putting some of those people off
Thank god Mick Lynch called them out on exactly whats been happening (Transfer Of Wealth)
A number of years ago I was heading home and noticed my bus was at the stop. I ran and just managed to jump onboard as the driver closed the door. Unfortunately the ‘driver only’ bus driver pulled away from the stop while closing the door on my foot. I was lying on the pavement with my foot caught in the door being dragged around 150 metres along the road frantically banging on the side of the bus while trying to avoid the wheel. As I was coming towards a traffic light I fully expected my life to end trapped between it and the bus or mangled beneath the tyres. I was fortunate that the passengers heard the banging and spotted me being dragged and stopped the bus. I consider myself to be very lucky to be alive and have always blamed the fact that there are no longer conductors on buses for that situation. I have no doubt whatsoever that driver only trains are inherently unsafe and that instead of a bruising if this had happened on a train without a guard I would not have survived. We should not in any circumstances give up safety of the public for company and shareholder greed.
Hope you bought a lottery ticket after that escapade , lucky man 👍🏻
Sorry to hear that horrific story. Sadly you are 100% correct. A DOO train on the some years ago did unfortunately kill a passenger who was trapped in a door on leaving the platform. Many serious injury's have also occurred. This begs the question, 'what price a life'. Sad state of affairs.
Read, rinse and repeat "I ran and just managed to jump aboard as the driver closed tbe doors". Lessons learnt? 🤔
Lol owned
Tory MP's just embarrassing themselves
It's the English electorate that should be embarrassed they keep voting for these corrupt, incompetent and lying Tories in.
They have to do their best, but as they are lazy throttle entitled public school boys their best isn't very good in the real world.
And embarrassing the citizens of the UK, and bringing the country into disrepute around the globe.
And filling their pockets.
The laughter from all 3 union reps to the question at 27:52 needs to be a gif i think
Weasel Tory MP making zero progress
Yeah for sure.
"We've done a deal with Merseyrail" , giving the hat back to the committee brilliantly.
Mr Brereton was well out of his depth here, his question(s) were poor, these politicians are trying to catch the unions out but they will never succeed because these three well spoken union leaders know exactly what is going on, surely the public are now realising what the government are trying to do to workers of this country.
He was embarrassing.
Yup - also him asking "does it concern you about the polling numbers" marked him out as spectacularly stupid and callous. I'm impressed at the responses by the Union reps - I'd have simply said "I think it's the conservative party that should be worried about their own polling at the moment, not anyone else's".
"That's a protected characteristic, how did they know?"
I howled at that, the MP is a moron and may have just openly admitted some more proveable sordid stuff going on in the background.
Well said
He came across incredibly slimy. Absolute wank goblin.
Women's groups and pensioner groups should be supporting the rail unions who are fighting to keep guards on trains and staffed train stations. It's all about safety and a secure environment. The government can't be trusted by the people.
Completely agree. I would not like to travel on trains without guards!
and people with disability groups too.
@@ceecee130847 totally correct; for many people with disabilities it s essential that there are guards on the trains, in order to deploy ramps etc. Without those people there, then travelling on the trains would become impossible for people like me (wheelchair user). Aside from the safety aspects, and assisting people with sight impairments etc. This is as much about the rights of people with disabilities to be able to freely travel, which is covered by United Nations conventions, signed by this government. It is clear that this Tory / ERG / UKIP government has no issues in breaking international agreements and laws.
@@ceecee130847 Yes, you're so right. I've actually seen there's the need for a guard when a wheelchair embarkation and disembarkation is undertaken. What's going to happen when there's no guard and no station staff.
We can be sure that NONE of the MPs will be travelling regularly on public transport.
Well informed honesty and integrity is absolute "kryptonite" to Tory politicians.
Like garlic to vampires.
Tories are vampires, every single one of them! Blood sucking parasites, we're just cattle to be culled and should know our station.
I can see Mike thinking to himself 'do I really have to explain all this to you people again for the umpteenth time?'
Yes for the same reason that people involved in a crime have to reiterate their evidence multiple times. Everything those 3 gentlemen have said in front of the committee will be recorded and form a body of evidence along with the paperwork their trade unions have complied supporting their positions for the committee to read before they write their report. It’s how our democratic system works.
I can see every single person dependant on rail service thinking to themselves 'i don't give a shit who is "to blame", rail staff already make more than i do and the trains won't be any more reliable than they were before'
@@stevenredpath9332 What, like Mean Girls?
@@iamjurell only halfwits would think that
Mick Lynch is very credible here. An extremely capable leader.
Mick realises that he is fighting evil,but he is not on his own. He is worth double his salary. I look up to this man.
@@heifetz14 Evil! Really?
Extremely based
@@veganpicks3510Yes EVIL.Tories are brutal and heinous.
@@Cyime based and collective bargain pilled
We should all support the workers 100%
Depends what they are already getting.
@@soulman3590 I know but sometimes things have to change.
@@soulman3590 Not government run is it?.
@@soulman3590 The main three only care about power.
@@alancooper3331 Far from it pal, would you want people to lose their jobs? If you say yes then you sure are a tory as that's their narrative, along with the right wing press.
Thank you "Politics Joe" for making this video easily accessible for the public. This is greatly appreciated from me.
For the unions that are on strike. I personally believe you are doing the right thing for all people of this country.
You have my continued support, and I sincerely appreciate you.
People's lives should be more important as apposed to the companies profits.
Same from me big thank you. Sky, BBC both very biased and not as they state independent. As for press well very right wing indeed.
@@lindacurrie8817 I'll be honest I'm primarily a BBC news person, but occasionally I see on point independent journalism on CZcams.
I think a lot of people are starting to see the bigger picture, and asking why?
That's important. Politics won't be about image, and race for long. It will be about what's right for everyone, or one can hope anyway.
What clarity, and what resolution? Nothing has changed in months. They, the Tories, the Conservatives, want this conflict, they DO NOT WANT RESOLUTION!
Can the select committee bring the government to account now that it is clear that they have been effectively hampering negotions?
They can call ministers in and question them before submitting a report for MPs to read. Only parliament can hold the government to account but important work is done by select committees in ensuring that evidence is gathered, people questioned and the government has to respond to their reports.
@25 minutes. MP on over £80k a year plus significant expenses asks if it is right that a train driver earns twice his constituents average wage! Pot and kettle springs to mind.
Try driving a train at night, in thick fog at 125 mph, keeping to a timetable and remembering where you are on the route in case of emergency. Also having in the back of your mind that someone may decide today is the day they decide a way out for them is stepping out in front of that train.
And being responsible for the immediate safety of hundreds of people.
Spot on 👍👍👍
Surely the question should be 'Why are your constituents paid so little? Is it perhaps due to the fact your government has not ensured wages have risen at least in line with inflation, which is a large part of the cause of this dispute?'
"Don't you think it's unfair that we don't get to shaft some of your drivers as hard as we're shafting the rest of my constituents?"
It's funny how our role models change as we get older, isn't it?
Give them hell gents.
The union reps are spot on and as always the Tories can only lie and gaslight. It has been obvious since Thatcher that the Tories' policy was to break unions. Since 2010 it has been to abolish them.
WRIGHT BY NAME ,right by nature. R,U,A RAILWAY PERSON/FAMILY.
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I don't understand why there paid so much... there's so many people out there that would be happy to do them jobs for less
@@maguirefire3190 paid well because they have unions. They're paid what they're worth it's everyone else who isn't paid enough. You'd want everyone to be paid less and less? Look up "race to the bottom" which is what you want.
@@DaveTheTrain Protectionist rackets are just selfish... they can't even tolerate ordinary competition... go online and there's plenty of jobs on the railway... but you cant apply without rail safety card... you can't get one of them without a sponsor... you can't get a sponsor unless you apply for a role not relating to that original job... this is all deliberate protectionism... its not fair on people wanting to get there foot in the industry... neither is it fair for taxpayers and travellers to pay the millions of pounds a day for the inconvenience and misery caused when these people striking have a choice to go into other industries or other rolls in the industry or work overtime if there not satisfied with pay... train staff are not slaves and can leave anytime... I no people that would happily work in some of them roles for 25 30 grand a year.. I'd happily pack my job up for a pay cut to 30 grand a year selling tickets... Next you'll wanna pay every check out assistant in sainsbury's 30 grand a year
@@maguirefire3190 I work on the railway and encountered none of this. I have friends who have joined in recent years and also haven't heard of any of these issues.
I didn't need a sponsor, I've never heard of sponsorships. Neither have friends or colleagues in different grades
It's the same argument about the railways service, the postal service, the legal service, the hospital waiting lists and ambulance waiting times - if the services was excellent, people would be upset about the industrial actions effects. But the services are on their knees. The people within the services have made the difference to services but are undervalued for their efforts and in accordance to inflation. The services are important and deserve investment, as do the people who work within them ❤
Asking how much longer can the Unions afford to keep going on Strike was such a con question. It sounded more like asking them how much longer does the Government have to keep ingoring these strikes. The Tory Government doesn't care one bit
Pretty much exactly what I was going to say, it’s basically “come on gUyS, how long do we have to wait”?
Spot-on. That was such a loaded question.
@@TheSynthnut And only a true blue Filthy would be thick enough to think a seasoned Trade Union negotiator would fall for it. And these dunces are running the country. We might as well let Putin nuke us ; it'll put us out of our misery sooner.
Very interesting listening to the Tory members of the select committee engaging in a bit of ‘union bashing’ with such relish. Unfortunately, they only succeeded in making themselves, and this government, look like the arrogant, self-serving, uncaring, disingenuous people that they are.
In contrast to the union leaders, who showed themselves to be leading the fight for social justice for their members and wider public.
İnstead of solving the problem, the government intends to use this situation as a trump card in the elections.
And they're losing horribly
yeah, we can see that but will the Tory voting idiot on the street see that?
I don't think the public will fall for this, it's far too transparent what Sunak is doing here, Tories are simply waiting for the inevitable now.
More fool them!
Unfortunately there still many dim-witted members of the electorate that are Tory sheep and gullible apologists for Far Right policies and oppression.
"What do you think about driver only operations?"
"The idea is fundamentally unsafe, would lead to more r_pe, violence, and no help during various accidents."
"Ahh, OK, so is that a no then?"
"obviously"
"hmm interesting, what about your views on driver only trains?"
Next up:
"Do you think it's fair that my constituents should have to pay more for the pay increase of rail staff."
"I think that the increase of pay should be covered by reducing the dividends of shareholders"
"I don't think that answers my question"
That's because it's a leading question that is based on BS to try and play into a BS narrative. Unless of course his poor constituents are all shareholders. Unlikely. The question was answered perfectly adiquately, he just didn't like the answer because he came out looking like a moron.
And finally from Mr shark eyes:
"how long can you last"
"we're in it for the long haul"
"no, but I want specifics. I want to know how long we need to hold your heads under the water to ensure you drown, so we can proceed with the next phase. We don't want to hold you under for longer than that because when the whole thing crumbles and people see the bodies we also want plausible deniability."
"we can sustain this for quite some time"
Mr shark eyes starts to look worried.
I would love to see these three hold parliament to account. They're not afraid of calling it how they see it and we need that now more than ever.
Union reps should bring up the fact that MP's have had an over 20% pay increase since the Tories came to power.
That committee was not on top of its brief, to put it mildy.. jesus christ
A working class person with a brain is like kryptonite to a public school educated Tory
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If this was a football match the final score would be:
Tory M.P.'s nil - Mick Lynch 10
Poor man's Scargill. Be careful what you wish for. !!
@@dingdong289 Lynch comes across as the only sensible one amongst the lot of them
Jack Brereton is a weaselly little character, isn’t he?
Montycantsin5. Vincent Van Gogh certainly is.
whoever put their trust in him to elevate him to this point is a nincompoop
Love Mick . Always clear, truth and facts spoken . 👍🏴👊
I find it upsetting that when it was pointed out that reducing staff leads to more sexual assault, the male MPs felt that it was still a point of negotiation. Easy to think sexual assault is no big deal when you are not the target.
They've got no idea what it's like in the real world and even if they do they don't care.
Who cares
Totally agree, even less so when you’re an MP ferried about at taxpayers expense. Shame they’re no bothered about their own daughters.
The last proper pm, boris, ended up losing his post due to knowingly hiring a sex pest. So their view on sexual assault is clear. Disgusting.
I'm a train guard and I can attest 1st hand thr amount bullshit women put up with on trains. Gropers, public masterbaters, just general abuse for not wanting to sit on someone's lap. I can say for my part I like to think I deal with this stuff quietly and throughly. Ofc i want no Diver only cos of my trade, but out side of that, Diver only will end up in ppl getting hurt or going missing.
Some of those MP’s so smarmy and condescending, makes your skin crawl
How can these men be so patiently answering stupid questions that are designed to grind them down. The public wants a real HUMAN BEING on trains and in ticket offices. You keep asking the same questions in a different way. What is the game?
Yes indeed, same blah, blah, blah. Not very intelligent people!
Driver only trains will allow free reign to gangs of kids robbing people on trains.
These meetings are hopeless just going around in circles 👍
In response to how they can keep answering those stupid questions, one word - resolve
You need to remember that theses meetings are to gather evidence and information so the questions they ask, inside parliament, is to have these people the opportunity to express their side. There will a lot more evidence submitted by the unions in support of their position. It’s also important to remember that every MP there is a back bencher and I doubt that even the tories are happy being that.
Three men, well worthy of their positions in their respective Unions, no fools there .
Eliminating ticket offices will be a disaster....its often the only easy way to purchase cheaper tickets as online sites hide them away and route you towards more expensive ticket options.
isnt that the point though? privite companies are incentivised to make things as difficult and expensive as possible to extract the maximum amount of profit
@@ince55ant yes, that's the point, but absolutely doesn't mean it should be done.
In our village we have a large proportion of retired people and during covid it was estimated that 30% were not online so all info from the community had to go out by newsletter. Are people not confident or capable to buy tickets online to be excluded from rail travel?
Try booking a rail journey online. It is Byzantine in its complexity.
@@ince55ant possibly except ticket sales and prices are set by the government and the revenue goes to the government.
All top class union men, its great to see these people doing their best to look after the ordinary working people. This government are a disgrace .enough is enough
Well said Mick Whelan about people working alone. I certainly don't know many females who would be happy to travel on a guard less train these days..
And I suspect that female drivers, especially, would not be happy to drive guardless trains....
The Public is fully in support of people fighting bullies to get a decent pay for working people
Would you get on a plane that only had one pilot in charge!
These blokes are brilliant-they won’t have the wool pulled over their eyes by some dim railway/government official
Sexual assault up 180%!! And he continues to ask why driver only is unsafe. Disgusting. Well done to the union leader. Mick Lynch is outstanding in every interview 👏🏽 🙌🏾
Sir Mick Lynch on fire @ 1:05:00
Driver operated trains are a complete no no, you wouldn't have an airline with just the pilot as the only person in charge
It's important to note that the wealthiest households own 43% of all wealth in the UK (figures for 2018-2020). The bottom 50% of the UK population owns by contrast all of 9%. This is the root cause of all our problems. The money is there to pay everyone a decent salary, and make food banks unnecessary. But dogma, greed and selfishness stand in the way.
The way these wealthy ‘ donors’ can hand them millions of pounds is obscene. ’
Hi, What's the % of wealthiest households that own 43%. Where' does the other 48% of wealth sit
@@saucyslaws The richest 10% own 43%, the poorest 50% own 9%, leaving 48% spread among the remaining 40% of the population. This makes the UK one of the most unequal countries amongst developed countries.
Differences are increasing every year. Since the govts claim growth in most years it makes you wonder where all the money from that growth is going. If ordinary people don't benefit from it we don't need it and is the 'growth' really just the measurement of wealth extracted from the poorest
You forgot Tories. They are standing in the way as well. Time will tell if Labour are much different on that note but he only way to find out is to get rid of the Tories first.
This select committee have no shame or sense of embarrassment. It was difficult to watch them take themselves so seriously.
They are simply feeding at the trough.
Jack Brereton: Drivers are on twice my constituents average pay!
1) The strikes aren't just about pay - though, I don't think it unreasonable to want a decent one, after 3-4 years of no pay rises. They're also about safety concerns.
2) I'd be curious about how Mr Brereton's pay compares to that of his constituents, given the amounts of perks, including subsidised food and drink, free parking and a lavish expenses account; none of which a majority of his constituents get! Not to mention regular pay rises, during the same period that rail staff have had theirs frozen! I can't help thinking of a phrase, involving stones and glass houses..!
But then, you can't expect anything else from a Nazti Party MP; and I notice he's from the same part of the Midlands, as that clown Gullis!
The Tories are done for. Why can’t they see that public opinion will not change towards them. More so when they try leading more intelligent people into gotcha traps and fail miserably.
In my 71 years I am no better off whoever is in government.
why cant you see they literally don't care, there's no grand plan, they're just out to do as much damage and steal as much money as they can before they're out and we're letting them
@@caspar_gomez They do care they have to if they want power ,maybe they think with Labour it will be a complete balls up.
@@alancooper3331 closing down sale everything must go, they're not playing to win, the ship is sinking and they just want to make off with as much as possible before it does
@@caspar_gomez Let Labour in for 4 or 5 years then in again for 12 to 16.
Love how that young Tory MP can sit there and claim that train drivers are on more money than most of his constituancy while totally ignoring that he himself and the bosses of the private railway companies are on much much more money than even the train drivers. This idea that they are worth their wage and the drivers are not is abhorrant. Of course the problem is most of his constituents are on criminally low wages but that's not his fault is it? All he does is highlight other issues they've caused elsewhere as well! The Tories try to pit upper working class against lower middle class. Don't lose sight of the enemy here, its the Tories and the rich folk they support, NEVER your fellow man!
They love to make the dispute about the train drivers because they do have the largest wage but the strikes are about a lot of other workers too. And so what if the wage is higher than other people, the point is they are being asked to do the same work for less remuneration than last year and the year before . Following the MP argument you shouldn't have more money than anyone on minimum wage. Its not a like for like comparison. MPs are paid more than most of their constituents.
It's comparing apples and oranges - we can't compare the wages of a specific group of people (drivers) against an average wage of another group of people (constituents) who are doing completely different jobs.
He's basically building a false equivalency argument, and cherry picking which rail workers he's using for the comparison.
I manage a restaurant. our December was not as good as expected. I can comfortably say that train strikes did not affect us at all. Customers not being able to afford to go out had a huge affect. Living in the Southwest our mainline services to London are cut off with some degree of regularity and can take months to reinstitute. Listening to mps try and vilify working people in such a disgusting way is awful. Difficult to remember a time when mps failed to vote for their own pay rise, but as they earn only practically minimum wage, who can blame them?
Presumably you've never voted Tory and think people who voted these savages into power are absolute simpletons?
@TOI TECHNO I wouldn't go round assuming things. I have voted Tory once. A very long time ago. I don't think people who vote Tory are simpletons just that they are either very rich or haven't been paying much attention.
@@MrFinbarz I've never voted Tory, but I can understand if the only other option is Labour.
@Raymondo666 so what's your point you are looking for a party even more right wing and destructive than the current tory govt? Er OK you do you bro
@@MrFinbarz not my fault if your Liebour level of comprehension is poor.
God the quality of our MP's is so poor
Eliminate the ticket office and they lose one customer as I only pay in cash !
Plus they will lose all the customers who have experienced debt for whatever reason and can only have a basic bank acount. The same for any ex offenders who cannot get credit will no longer be able to travel by train .
Removing the ticket office is SO stupid, the e tickets and other digital facilities are a luxury, it's not a 100% reliable
VICTIORY TO THE RMT, VICTORY TO THE NURSES, VICTORY TO ALL THE WORKERS OF BRITAIN
This all like a Monty Python sketch. one step forward and two steps back. Ministry of Funny Walks are alive and well in our govnutty.
These Select Committes often feel like they've decided what they want the conclusion and findings to be and then structure the questioning to reach that to conclude a report on. Completely worthless unless they bring in the people responsible for these strike negotiations. Nothing new was said by the Unions in this from what I can see, it's all out there in black and white and any junior office clerk could piece it together for them anyway.
Ministry of Funny Walks was a dig at Civil Service mandarins. It was a time when Conservative Party was conservative in outlook - ie, they mostly wanted to conserve things as they had been for years and to resist change or to make sure it happened slowly. While that CP did include the likes of Enoch Powell, it also included Lord Carrington, Willie Whitelaw, and Edward Heath (the very opposite of a landed gentry type). Even the capitalists in that CP were more like Adam Smith than the modern form. They mostly were concerned for the less fortunate even if it was from a patronising attitude and a need to have healthy workers on their farms and factories. Didn't like them at the time but have to concede they were not all malicious, they could talk with 'lower classes' in unions and, indeed, the unions were strong till North Sea oil gave Thatcher the cash to smash them and transform the CP into a neoliberal, devil-take-the-hindmost rabid monster capitalism. Modern CP is not conservative in any way whatsoever so real conservatives have been squeezed out of the party. It has added something to Thatcherism in that they are firmly convinced that they have to add cruelty and jackbooting crushing of everyone who is not their chum. Modern CP is Alan B'Stard in power instead of merely being a fringe back-bencher in John Major's party. They are utterly incapable of negotiation because that type of mindset is completely absent from they way of functioning.
@@cuebjWhat’s your middle name Boring or pointless ?
True,but there is nothing funny about the Tories.They are satanists.
Nick lynch "why would you put in 9 conditions that was not in there. This is sabotage." no one has contacted us ( RMT) or talked to us to resolve this dispute.
I support the strikes. ❤
Love Lynch spot on every time.
I don’t know which Tory I want to get in the bin more…Wait… I do, It’s the ones with glasses.
Yes! Truly vile.
It was glorious watching Mr Brereton having his arse handed back to him here.
The fact the Tory MPs can sit and try these semi political gotchas with trade union reps and think what they're trying is not totally transparent astounds me. How out of touch they are.
Lol spot on 👍
@@jncg2311superbly glorious wonderful.
Wow, aren't those MP's a set of snakes....
Complex?? Pay people enough so they do not have to use food banks afford heating and have job security does not seem that complex to me
end the profiteering and the greed
@@karlnadin1554 when I listen to the unions there message is constant. Workers at the lower grades do not earn enough and have to resort to the previous methods outlined to survive. That is also not taking into account the terms and conditions that are unreasonable. Your comment however is raw and pointed. I find it very wired that you can only allow a binary option. I understand how money works and how that means we live in a debit system where the economy can not grow unless debit grows. This leads to the unfair bourdon placed on the poorest in nation. You are correct that I am anti Tory as they have shown they haven't a clue and when confronted with how they messed up they do not change. I am not anti business but I am a believer business should support the nation and a government job is to keep that balance
Typical Tory bully boy tactics
That young bloke @1:13:24 is trying and trying, but Mick Lynch is making him look his age, simple and naïve......
The Tories have no interest in resolving this, its an ideological exercise.
Dirty tricks from the government & trying to discredit these men....shameful!!
This question of do you not think that train drivers are paid too much is absolutely infuriating.
Someone should have flipped it on them and asked if £140,000 for the Transport or Health Minister is too much.
Or the basic salary and benefits of an MP in comparison with normal people with their dodgy expenses and very fat pensions.
Mick brilliant again 👏
25:56 Jack Brereton is such an arrogant little tory boy and he don't have a clue what he's talking about. I hope he loses his seat at the next election.
Why do you never see Mick Lynch in a balaclava? Because it's impossible to pull the wool over his eyes.
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I support the workers and the unions 100%.
The unions are more democratic than UK government every decision is by the members while every government decision is only by the Tory party. How long are the Tories willing to pay the private rail companies funding to make dividend payments to shareholder from underpaid taxpayers money.
What an eye opener, so sad our gov hate the workers, and if they hate us who else do our gov hate.
Can you imagine owning crazy expensive property which is in constant public use, these people somehow feel like it's a smart idea to make these places utterly unprotected. This is a terrifying risk not just to the drivers who could be left danger but all members of the public are at risk too. Assault, theft, criminal damage, and much worse are all waiting to happen if trains go fully driverless, there is no way to argue this case is acceptable.
Thats exactly what they want for the whole country. No protection for the public, no service provision, rights for workers or consumers, just a mechanism for the extraction of money from working people without any kind of recourse or consequence for negligence.
We should make the distinction between driverless and staffless traings! But you're right esspecially on night or evening services!
Thank goodness for people like these three Union leaders. The argument is won, the Government is directly the cause of this dispute.
LOVE THE WORKERS-HATE THE TORIES, well done guys support you all the way, you are our heros
Again, not a lot of point having any kind of discussion with a committee of government word-salad specialists.
There’s no member of the government in select committees. Every single MP there is a back bencher.
@@stevenredpath9332 I'm so sorry (and don't bother telling me there's no need to be sorry) but I need to rephrase that then: not a lot of point having any kind of discussion with a bunch of select committee word-salad specialists. DOH - there's always one eh!
@@hariowen3840 no, you do need to be sorry for failing to remove your blinkers and actually understand just what you are seeing. I doubt very much 3 trade union presidents took the time to come to this committee just to waste time with “a committee of government word-salad specialists”.
@@stevenredpath9332 Shame they were so bitterly disappointed then eh! - read the heading DOH. (Bye now.)
This should be a dispute between employer and employees. Listening to the list of working groups they spiel through, and restrictions and contractual limitations, it's clear the Tories have deliberately wrapped this up in red tape to the point where no one can bilaterally agree anything.
Pay people enough to live on not just survive
lower house prices instead ?
@@888ssss zoidberg - "why not both?
@@888ssss That as well.
@@frothe42 this is the real source of uk poverty.
@@888ssss We have the same problem in the state where I reside in the US; rents and housing prices that are totally unaffordable! A crash of the housing market is the only way to "correct" the problem, to a point, but certain sectors of housing might not be affected.
These conservative mps are asking only stupid questions which got nothing to do with the issue at hand
I think 'representatives' are a much better word then 'boss' since they are voted in by their members in the title.
Just a thought.
Maybe we should start referring to Tory MP's as bosses. Makes as much sense.
Mick lynch has been saying the same things for months and these MPs keep asking the same questions trying to justify their relevance. He's not going to change his answers so pay them what they are asking and stop pretending you (government) give a damn.
Mick you’re a huge credit to the RMT. I wish we had someone like you as General Secretary for the RCN. I’m in awe of how you negotiate. So calm, interesting and intelligent negotiation.
25:23
greasy tory scroat
The irony he mentions the average salary in his constituency, when he is in his constituency and earns 30k more than a train driver does. So why can your salary increase and your value is somehow reasonable but it's far fetched for a train drivers salary to increase in-line with inflation? A train driver 100% works harder than any tory rat has or ever will. God it's so very very deluded.
Mick Lynch is a man of integrity, and as a regular train user I want a guard on my train.
Why do mps get 80, grand a year ?????
Some of it pays for their office support I believe and it's probably also to try and attract good quality candidates. Ha ha.
@@heliotropezzz333 their office support is claimed on expenses. They do not pay a penny of their wages towards any office support or staff.
@@Syanarah Yes you're right. I just looked it up. I wonder why then, that some MPs accept outside help from lobbyists in paying their office expenses or providing external office staff, when there's no need for it.
Yup 80 grand and expenses that go upwards of a mil
@@heliotropezzz333 No they get £80K Salary then expenses on top of that to run their office.
They are paid too much for doing very little.
remember plebs, keep calm and carry on. don't question anything. pay your tax, and your tv license, watch your football and your dancing with the stars, and shut up
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Driver only trains could be resolved by a detailed health and safety risk assessment. There are so many risks that there is no way it could be justified, especially from disabled persons and from recorded incidents of drunkenness and sex discrimination.
@@jazzmasterjay3270 I'm pretty sure DLR do actually have a driver on board in case something goes wrong with the system. They always have to have an operator there, you can't just leave something like a train unattended
@@jazzmasterjay3270 DLR have "Train Captains". Every DLR train is staffed at all times.
@Jazzmaster Jay to quote Holly, “What a load of ol’ Tottenham. Steaming pile of Hotspurs, that is.”
In other words: your opinion is as trash as it is wrong.
You should learn to be a better person.
@Jazzmaster Jay first it's spelt guards and they are still on the majority of trains.
@Jazzmaster Jay If you knew anything about the railway, you would know that driverless mainline trains are not being produced anywhere. Even the DLR has a fully qualified driver (the Train Captain or whatever they're called these days) on board. The DLR also wouldn't pass a modern H&S risk assessment without platform edge doors on every station; it's grandfathered in under 1987 rules. It also operates entirely over tunnels and viaducts and at low speed.
You would also know that a "guard" on the railway is not the same as a security guard, it's a traditional title that goes back to the early days before the railways had signals, when trains needed a "guard" at the back who would show a red flag or torch to any approaching trains in case of a breakdown. The modern term for a guard is a "Conductor" or "Train Manager".
(On a side note, the BTP only have a handful of response units on duty in each region at any given time. Outside of the inner cities, their response time can often be measured in hours. You really expect them to deal with fare evaders and street harassers?)
To have automated trains in the UK, it would require billions of pounds of investment in track and signalling upgrades, and then the stations would all need to be rebuilt to pass health and safety risk assessments (unless the Tories scrap them, which wouldn't surprise me). Most of the UK doesn't even have computerised signals, and much of the country doesn't even have electric colour light signals yet.
My god those Tory MP's were thick!
Wow these union leaders are well able to speak in comparison to the Scargill days.
I cannot believe what I am listening to, these tricky MPs are a waste of time.
Is the second panel available to watch anywhere....I just want to see what possible attempt they can make to justify any of the points made against them
'The public' are all of us workers and retired workers.
These Tory MPs are completely out of their depth. The best they can do is sit there and get schooled by 3 men who know exactly what they want and what they are talking about. 😂
The solution to many of the nations woe is to immediately close down the "British" Tax havens and put the monies into our services that we all need also scrap Private Health care and Fee paying Schools it's ridiculous that these Schools pay no tax.
This is a marvelous example of worker's actions in the 21st century. I believe people can start to organize as they did successfully through history.
Aren't these people meant to know all this common sense tells you these attempted alterations are totally unsafe