41:52 “As blasfamos as it is to admit, that famous windmill is NOT on Thomas’ branchline, it’s on Toby’s old line. I feel like I’ve been lied to my entire life.” My thoughts exactly Tug.
You know that maps don't matter when even the show's director/producer's version doesn't completely line up. But I appreciate the effort it must have taken to plan everything for the show, and for you to modify it slightly to make sense of it. We'll done.
@@ThomasFisher-jr6bn I know, talk about a hard worker. He really is a really useful engine unlike that trio of idiots that are Gordon, James, and Henry(most of the time).
Fun Fact : The Quarry Tramway on Thomas' Branchline , which is the same railway that the Grumpy Constable wrote Thomas up is THE very first set we ever see in the show.
Thus we're presented with the real vision of the magical land where dreams come true. The amount of detail and passion Mitton put into his vision is amazing, it's almost on par with Wilbert own's dedication to the RWS map, no one could ever match his gift as a children's TV director. No doubt this'll become the official holy grail map everyone will default to now to create their future trainz content and fan-episodes. You've outdone yourself again Tug, easily the best Sodor Explained yet. 10/10 Stars!. ⭐ David Mitton would be proud.❤ May the man, the legend, continue to rest in peace.
I feel like David Mitton should’ve just shared all of his ideas, concepts, and maps when he had the chance similar to what Awdry did. Hopefully there are more of those somewhere and will be leaked someday
Percy's Promise was originally a Season 2 episode until they cancelled it, so I'm guessing they intended for Percy to depart from the seaside station in Thomas and Trevor, except they didn't have a set for that in Season 3, forcing them to substitute it with Tidmouth Halt instead. We don't have the Season 2 map, so it's possible and probably likely that it was drawn up when the episodes were still being planned, explaining why the floodlands are on a track going from the Thomas and Trevor station and not Tidmouth Halt. The second branch to Lower Suddery is a leftover from the Season 1 map where it was the only branch to Lower Suddery, but when they made Season 2 they added the proper branch going from Wellsworth that we all know and love. Why they didn't just retcon the whole line to go from Wellsworth and still left the old branch on the map is something we'll never know, but oh well. Speaking of Lower Suddery; there's a code for HX.8 on one of the Season 1 maps, which I suspect might be meant to be the set for Percy's lonely siding, which if it is would place it just north of Lower Suddery, so I'd put it in that small space between where the two forks of the Brendam Branch converge and Lower Suddery, allowing Percy to access it from the Season 1 tracks but still putting it where HX.8 is assuming that square on the Season 1 map referred to that set.
Another thing that supports this is that the line goes directly to Wellsworth. The S2 version of Percy's Promise probably would have used the Vicar of Wellsworth, so it makes sense for Percy's route.
Rest In Peace David Mitton. Also, I also have my own head canons for the Island of Sodor, including stuff that is up on the Northern Coast of Sodor to fit my OC’s and their stuff. In my canon, with my OC’s, Their is a 3rd narrow gauge railway, other then the Mid-Sodor and Skarloey railway’s. This 3rd narrow gauge railway is called the North Sodor Railway, or NSR for short. Their is a bustling harbor town at the very north edge of Sodor called Ronans Gate. Their is standard gauge lines that run up past harwick up to Ronans Gate. Their is also a smaller branch that breaks off from the main branch at Ronans Gate called the Apple Dale line that runs down from Ronans Gate to the small Orchard Village of Apple Dale and then runs down till the double lane track turns into an hourglass track and goes into the tunnel that is underneath the hills. The Hourglass Track exits the tunnel under the hills and goes back to regular double lane track. Their is a small branch that bends inland from Harwick and then the two lines meet at the small village of Drogan-y-Claghan. The standard gauge line, now only a single track and no longer the Apple Dale Branch, crosses over the river and passes the village of Cregwir, and then snakes through the valley of the river that flows to Harwick, up to the lake Loey Machan, and the single line standard gauge rout hugs the hillside on the western coast of the lake, the Narrow Gauge North Sodor Railway having the East Coast. The standard gauge line goes through a few more tunnels and over a few more hills until finally reaching Peel Godred and connecting with the Peel Godred Branch. This single lane standard gauge electrified line that runs from Drogan-y-Claghan up to Peel Godred is called the Machan line, named after the lake Loey Machan.
I have a theory as to why Thomas and Percy are seen on Duck’s line semi-regularly. In real life, branch lines lost a huge load of traffic due to road expansion after WWII. The NWR may have experienced service reductions similar to what British Railways experienced in the early 1960’s. If the relatively rural Ffarquhar branch had its services streamlined, Sir Topham may have had Thomas and Percy work on the busier Arlesburgh branch.
Since we're talking about the Branch Line Engines: @20:56 : If this crossing is indeed meant to be at the far end of Elsbridge yard, then that means, in 'Better Late Than Ever,' Thomas did a big loop back around, despite being late and desperately trying to make up for lost time. That is unintentionally hilarious. On topic: it does indeed make things more interesting when engines can work on other parts of the railway if asked. UT says here that it has the added bonus of seeing them on these lavish sets.
I still say the Three Bridges set has a hybrid road at the top. We've seen both trains and road vehicles travel along that road, so who's to say there's no special rules or something for road vehicles?
I like to think the secondary loop line via the goods station was built in Season 3, and is also the placement of Callan, explaining why we see Duck and Oliver pass through a lot, because of the connecting line to the LW. It being on the Ffarquar branch loop also explains why we see Thomas there so much. The 3 bridges could also be on this line, just after the junction. However, the LW would have to swing under the loop line.
35:01 wait I just realized: In that picture of David Mitton with Duck and Oliver, Duck is pulling Annie and Clarabel. You can see Annie’s name on her side behind Duck, and you can see a bit of Annie’s face.
another great and lovely looking map, I loved finally finding out what the TV Map looked like and where everything was, hopefully we will see more beyond Crovan's Gate, also been thinking have u ever tried to do a Tugs map, that one I think would be a bit hard though, anyway keep up the great work, love the content
1. There is albo East sodor map by david mitton. 2. Unlucky would have to extended western sodor map for the rest od model series. 3. Same locations from central sodor of his old are albo outdated.
there should be a thomas and friends video game open world but like the worst version of the map but mods should be allowed so someone mods the better version
@@ethankearl8771 or something that may make a bit more sense, like only having the "worse" map, but you have to actually explore and fix the map to make it more accurate to what the island actually is. Or at least that's how I would make that.
39:55, to be fair there is a promotional picture of Toby (and Henrietta) with trucks at Tidmouth Sheds, so that pretty much does kinda confirm that Toby did travel to Tidmouth. I have no idea how Topham didn’t even notice Toby until he went on holiday and visited his old railway, but whatever.
Well there would have been around five trams running that line from Arlesdale to Tidmouth and the harbour, so he would have just regarded them as normal. Toby was just the last one in service.
Ok it *never* says in official media that there were 5 trams that ran the line. We only know that Toby ran that line before it was closed (and then re-opened later).
In season three the first and second part were filmed separately so hackenbeck tunnels can actually be the same tunnel different desing same season. Tug should know that he made the s3 retrospective where he said this.... Second : the three bridges are located at tidmouth. The bottom bridge is the tidmouth harbour line the middle bridge is the main line loop line and the top bridge is ducks branch line before connecting to the main line. Plus the top line can havebulgy on it. In the episode bulgy meets the bridge because he went the wrong way. The shortcut to knapdord doesnt exist and he messed up and met the bridge. Going by the logic of all at sea duck departs ARLESBURGH harbour ( yes it is ARLESBURGH because wenever see those sets in brendam and the sun sets at the key to the west) and goes over those sets. Three : thomass line loop line connects to the little western at tidmouth hault and goes down to the mainline to tidmouth. Four: the skarloey railway is a loop with the mid sodor looking exactly like it looks on the map in sleeping beauty. The mid sodor is a T shape with the middle of the T being skarloey station. The west part goes to betrams mine to which a track goes from thomass line. Iwill get to that. The east part goes to vicarstown along the bluebell railway which connects to the mid sodor. Five: the track in bye George goes to bertrams mine from thomass line. When george did the work like an idiot the track got repaired and in tobys discovery it was in normal service. So the track is standard gauge not narrow gauge how you said in your old IOS map video. 6. Callan is after the 3 bridges before thomass ducks and the main line junction off. The whole coastal bypass is empty. I hopeihelped with something i was thinking about this for a long while. This video really inspired me so i wanted to help on the part 2.
I find it interesting that in the series, most engines pulling goods train travel northwards from Knaford going to the loop line instead of going southwards. Maybe the Mainline loop also serves as a goods line or something especially for the flying kipper. Episodes that supports this: -Edward & Gordon -Thomas & The Breakdown Train -Dirty Objects -Fish (S4) -Something in the Air
This map is very good and it was presented splendidly! My favourite part was at the end when he mentioned "Roblox" (I ain't a game creator but do play Roblox). Very good job!
I don’t care what they say about the windmill, there are multiple windmills in Europe, I think we can pretend Thomas’s branch line has an identical one. That is my headcanon.
24:06 I just have it as Thomas doing push-pull things for the TV Series, even though Thomas is seen going Back facing down the branch. I also think the Railway Series sheds and yard is there. Specifically the sheds are on that middle track in the yard, and the yard for railway series yard is where it always is, along with a milk and cattle dock fo course. Thats my ideal Ffarquhar.
Also I think the HiT era windmill is the same windmill going to Ulfstead. Just a Headcannon thing. I know its Classic Era focused, I just wanted an excuse to explain my Headcannon Ffarquhar.
My headcannon for the second branch to the Suddery area is that the second line was at one point a competing railroad that was later bought out by the NWR
Personally, the maps are my favorite videos. The creativity of thinking where every location is amazing and I wish was a trait I had. I have tried to map out starting with the first couple episodes but keeping track of every track is just so difficult and I feel like I have no space to do it. If I could have one request I would say to continue trying to do the Skarloey and Midsodor railway for a part two and maybe as a part three, take your interpretation of seasons 5-12 as well as their respective movies and dare I say including magic railroad as they do include a station called Killaban which is on the mainline somewhere and do a final map video as as far as we know, have no evidence of a map from those seasons and its movies.
I will admit, I am impressed that you managed to make a comprehensive map that can be considered official based on series 1 through 4. I would be interested to maybe see if you could somehow try to slowly try to make sense and add on the rest of the series up to series 7 and the great Waterloo.
7:20 In Knapford shunting yards, there is this very noticeable bridge. Sometimes you can see trains running over it. 14:55 According to the concept drawing, it leads into the center of Knapford town, not far from the station forecourt. But what is the actual purpose of this bridge, and where exactly do the tracks from there lead? Strictly speaking, there is no logical explanation for it, and the bridge merely serves to create a spectacular film set. My previous explanation was that it is a road bridge for cars that crosses the tracks. However, this contradicts the scenes in which trains are seen running over the bridge. This is generally a very difficult topic...
The bridge leads to Callan (north) and Knapford (South) . It's only for passeger trains of the main line. The goods trains follow this line from bellow (Shutting yards)
A weir is Aman made water feature to help control water the loch or lock is literally a lock that is used to ferry canal boats think Panama canal locks on a extremely small scale
Hey Tug, just wanted to let you know the map link the description is broken :( Love the video! Great work bringing the map to life in an easier to read format!
That's a cool idea! Unfortunately, it might be a while before Tug makes any new content as he's still trying to salvage the old videos from the terminated channel.
Perhaps , parts of Thomas's services have stops on TLW , or alternatively, it was ex Tidmouth, Knapford and Elsebridge trackage thats used by both TLW and Thomas's line(s)
This map is really good! However I i think there are two things that are wrong with it. First: is that I think the little western connects the Knapford harbor. We see engines going past Bulstrode’s breach or sets similar to that before or after getting to Knapford harbor in episodes like fish and something in the air. Donald’s duck also says duck’s line reaches a port where big ships come in. Second: I think Toby’s line wasn’t reopened in s5 but in s3. We see in Donald’s duck that the little western has access to Ffarquhar quarry, and there is no point in calling Haultraugh a junction station if Toby’s was still closed. Also a lot of behind the scenes content also disprove that. Like concept art calling the station Oliver fines the old manor station instead of arlesdale end or something that could imply it’s arlesdale end, the film dates for the Oliver’s find station and arlesdale end being a month, the Oliver’s find station and every version of arlesdale end being completely different, and the s3 map calling the line between arlesdale end and the Ffarquhar the new quarry line implying that the line was reopen in s3. However I really enjoy the hard work you did on the map. Keep it up 👍.
The whole video is awesome, of course, but my favorite part is that the last set you placed is the first set we see in the intro. Was that intentional, or was it just a lucky turn of events?
If bulgy return in cgi shouldn’t his bridge and field of chickens be located If Duncan talked about an elephant statue in Emily saves the world from runaway elephant shouldn’t elephant park be relocated
There probably would be a map for Season 4 and maybe one for Season 5 (the HIT era bible gave us some hints on where certain locations would be) but I don’t know about Seasons 6 and 7.
Not sure why Tug hasn't re-uploaded the Thomas: Debunked shorts again, but there's also those 2 Tugs: Parody Dub videos... i hope they weren't lost cause they are no question the funniest things i've ever watched!.
If the express goes through Elsbridge, there's no way the track from Elsbridge to Tidmouth is a single track if Gordon goes on it. Also, Gordon goes on the track with three bridges with the express which is not on the main line.
Hi Tug, just wanted to let you know that the link to the original David Mitton map just shows a "blank" image. Is there any way you could fix this? I'd love to see the original and zoom in on it in all its glory.
Hey, Tug, I was watching Thomas and Percy's Christmas Adventure, and noticed something about Ulfstead. Toby came from the opposite direction of Ffarquhar when he entered the mountain village. Do you think the line might continue and meet up with Toby's line or just a mistake when filming?
Hey unlucky tug, I understand if this video is gone but could u add back everything great about “The adventure begins”? Or maybe the everything great about the Thomas movies u have done?
My one question is, why would Percy shunt some random trucks into a random siding near Wellsworth? wouldn’t it make more sense for him to put them in some sort of shunting yard? Not on the main line. If anybody knows why this is, please tell me.
“It’s never simple is it?” the perfect description of the Thomas franchise as a whole
David really took that and ran with it
@@Spookyybuyguess you could say he went “off the rails!”
19:15
"D'ooh-whoosh!" hissed@@drewo.127. "Get me out! GET ME OUT!"
41:52 “As blasfamos as it is to admit, that famous windmill is NOT on Thomas’ branchline, it’s on Toby’s old line. I feel like I’ve been lied to my entire life.”
My thoughts exactly Tug.
Did you put the wrong timestamp?
@@NitroIndigo fixed.
Or maybe, there is another marshland windmill like it in Thomas' Branch Line.
Blasphemous*
yeah like i felt like a surge like what?!
You know that maps don't matter when even the show's director/producer's version doesn't completely line up. But I appreciate the effort it must have taken to plan everything for the show, and for you to modify it slightly to make sense of it. We'll done.
I know he’ll probably never do it, but I want him to reupload “Weird Thomas Questions”, a certified classic
Yeah, I’m hoping we get Unanswerable Thomas Questions back too. If only he could get the original channel back…
Someone else has Re-uploaded them, but I don't think that unlucky tug will do that
28:26 That's why I think the idea of having Emily on Thomas's line makes sense. Especially if Daisy now does the Harwick line.
Tug: “I don’t know how one little blue tank engine with two coaches suffices it.”
Me: “He has friends”
@@TronicSSJ07 Not at the start.
@@ThomasFisher-jr6bn I know, talk about a hard worker. He really is a really useful engine unlike that trio of idiots that are Gordon, James, and Henry(most of the time).
@@ThomasFisher-jr6bnI’m sure it wasn’t that big in season 1. Maybe some of the extended loops were built after.
Fun Fact : The Quarry Tramway on Thomas' Branchline , which is the same railway that the Grumpy Constable wrote Thomas up is THE very first set we ever see in the show.
Thus we're presented with the real vision of the magical land where dreams come true. The amount of detail and passion Mitton put into his vision is amazing, it's almost on par with Wilbert own's dedication to the RWS map, no one could ever match his gift as a children's TV director. No doubt this'll become the official holy grail map everyone will default to now to create their future trainz content and fan-episodes. You've outdone yourself again Tug, easily the best Sodor Explained yet. 10/10 Stars!. ⭐
David Mitton would be proud.❤ May the man, the legend, continue to rest in peace.
2022 was such a good year for the Thomas fandom because of the bloopers of Season 5, David Mittens maps of Season 1, and a lot more
Don’t forget the season 10 bloopers we also got.
Not all good, as it was the official end of the entire Thomas the Tank Engine show in season 24.
@@backroomscataloger Didn't the show end in 2021?
@@ThomasFisher-jr6bn yeah i thought so
@@backroomscataloger in 2018 we knew it was dying, not really news, also i thought that was 2021
I feel like David Mitton should’ve just shared all of his ideas, concepts, and maps when he had the chance similar to what Awdry did. Hopefully there are more of those somewhere and will be leaked someday
Percy's Promise was originally a Season 2 episode until they cancelled it, so I'm guessing they intended for Percy to depart from the seaside station in Thomas and Trevor, except they didn't have a set for that in Season 3, forcing them to substitute it with Tidmouth Halt instead. We don't have the Season 2 map, so it's possible and probably likely that it was drawn up when the episodes were still being planned, explaining why the floodlands are on a track going from the Thomas and Trevor station and not Tidmouth Halt.
The second branch to Lower Suddery is a leftover from the Season 1 map where it was the only branch to Lower Suddery, but when they made Season 2 they added the proper branch going from Wellsworth that we all know and love. Why they didn't just retcon the whole line to go from Wellsworth and still left the old branch on the map is something we'll never know, but oh well. Speaking of Lower Suddery; there's a code for HX.8 on one of the Season 1 maps, which I suspect might be meant to be the set for Percy's lonely siding, which if it is would place it just north of Lower Suddery, so I'd put it in that small space between where the two forks of the Brendam Branch converge and Lower Suddery, allowing Percy to access it from the Season 1 tracks but still putting it where HX.8 is assuming that square on the Season 1 map referred to that set.
Maybe
Another thing that supports this is that the line goes directly to Wellsworth. The S2 version of Percy's Promise probably would have used the Vicar of Wellsworth, so it makes sense for Percy's route.
0:40 James' face is his reaction when the REV Wilbert Awdry passed away in 1997.
The fact you said it's never simple basically describes the TTTE franchise in the best term possible.
Rest In Peace David Mitton. Also, I also have my own head canons for the Island of Sodor, including stuff that is up on the Northern Coast of Sodor to fit my OC’s and their stuff.
In my canon, with my OC’s, Their is a 3rd narrow gauge railway, other then the Mid-Sodor and Skarloey railway’s. This 3rd narrow gauge railway is called the North Sodor Railway, or NSR for short. Their is a bustling harbor town at the very north edge of Sodor called Ronans Gate. Their is standard gauge lines that run up past harwick up to Ronans Gate. Their is also a smaller branch that breaks off from the main branch at Ronans Gate called the Apple Dale line that runs down from Ronans Gate to the small Orchard Village of Apple Dale and then runs down till the double lane track turns into an hourglass track and goes into the tunnel that is underneath the hills. The Hourglass Track exits the tunnel under the hills and goes back to regular double lane track. Their is a small branch that bends inland from Harwick and then the two lines meet at the small village of Drogan-y-Claghan. The standard gauge line, now only a single track and no longer the Apple Dale Branch, crosses over the river and passes the village of Cregwir, and then snakes through the valley of the river that flows to Harwick, up to the lake Loey Machan, and the single line standard gauge rout hugs the hillside on the western coast of the lake, the Narrow Gauge North Sodor Railway having the East Coast. The standard gauge line goes through a few more tunnels and over a few more hills until finally reaching Peel Godred and connecting with the Peel Godred Branch. This single lane standard gauge electrified line that runs from Drogan-y-Claghan up to Peel Godred is called the Machan line, named after the lake Loey Machan.
idk, sodor has a buncha railway already and barely anyone lives in the north so a lil bit unrealistic but very planned out and very interesting!
4th narrow gauge railway? Culdee Fell anyone? Also would there even be demand? Almost no one lives in the north as well.
These will always will be the most consistent Thomas locations of all time
I have a theory as to why Thomas and Percy are seen on Duck’s line semi-regularly.
In real life, branch lines lost a huge load of traffic due to road expansion after WWII. The NWR may have experienced service reductions similar to what British Railways experienced in the early 1960’s.
If the relatively rural Ffarquhar branch had its services streamlined, Sir Topham may have had Thomas and Percy work on the busier Arlesburgh branch.
That would’ve made a fun Railway Series book, don’t you think?
Since we're talking about the Branch Line Engines:
@20:56 : If this crossing is indeed meant to be at the far end of Elsbridge yard, then that means, in 'Better Late Than Ever,' Thomas did a big loop back around, despite being late and desperately trying to make up for lost time. That is unintentionally hilarious.
On topic: it does indeed make things more interesting when engines can work on other parts of the railway if asked. UT says here that it has the added bonus of seeing them on these lavish sets.
I hope this video gets a sequel, would love to see how the East could match up to Mitton’s map
David really said: “Nah, Ima do my own thing.”
41:47 the last set on the list was the first one we ever saw “it’s like poetry they it rhymes”
We miss you, David Mitton...
I still say the Three Bridges set has a hybrid road at the top. We've seen both trains and road vehicles travel along that road, so who's to say there's no special rules or something for road vehicles?
I like to think the secondary loop line via the goods station was built in Season 3, and is also the placement of Callan, explaining why we see Duck and Oliver pass through a lot, because of the connecting line to the LW. It being on the Ffarquar branch loop also explains why we see Thomas there so much. The 3 bridges could also be on this line, just after the junction. However, the LW would have to swing under the loop line.
35:01 wait I just realized:
In that picture of David Mitton with Duck and Oliver, Duck is pulling Annie and Clarabel. You can see Annie’s name on her side behind Duck, and you can see a bit of Annie’s face.
David Mitton, we love you man. But this map is really complicated to understand.
My favorite places on Sodor
Elsbridge , narrow gauge railway, victorstown station
Good thing we had Tug to clean it up and correct it.
another great and lovely looking map, I loved finally finding out what the TV Map looked like and where everything was, hopefully we will see more beyond Crovan's Gate, also been thinking have u ever tried to do a Tugs map, that one I think would be a bit hard though, anyway keep up the great work, love the content
The “unnecessary line” from Percy’s Promise could be old pre-NWR tracks.
I like the one from your every line on the island video. The one you made that second video to add onto. I think that’s my favorite one.
It would be great if you could combine this map with the one you created to make the ultimate Model Series map.
1. There is albo East sodor map by david mitton. 2. Unlucky would have to extended western sodor map for the rest od model series. 3. Same locations from central sodor of his old are albo outdated.
Time to have a second TV series with its own map
there should be a thomas and friends video game open world but like the worst version of the map but mods should be allowed so someone mods the better version
@@ethankearl8771 or something that may make a bit more sense, like only having the "worse" map, but you have to actually explore and fix the map to make it more accurate to what the island actually is.
Or at least that's how I would make that.
@@TheStickCollector thats a better idea but there should be mods to add stuff from around the world that was in big world big adventures
39:55, to be fair there is a promotional picture of Toby (and Henrietta) with trucks at Tidmouth Sheds, so that pretty much does kinda confirm that Toby did travel to Tidmouth.
I have no idea how Topham didn’t even notice Toby until he went on holiday and visited his old railway, but whatever.
Well there would have been around five trams running that line from Arlesdale to Tidmouth and the harbour, so he would have just regarded them as normal. Toby was just the last one in service.
Ok it *never* says in official media that there were 5 trams that ran the line. We only know that Toby ran that line before it was closed (and then re-opened later).
2022 was a big year for Behind for scenes stuff.
Concept art, original maps, outtakes of seasons 5 and 10…
Is it just me or is Mitton’s Sodor actually a bit bigger than Awdry’s?
If I made my own head cannon of mapping out the island of sodor I wouldn’t stray too far from what David Mitton’s map is (with the tweaks you made)
Great video I learned a lot now the next time I watch Thomas I will take this into consideration
In season three the first and second part were filmed separately so hackenbeck tunnels can actually be the same tunnel different desing same season. Tug should know that he made the s3 retrospective where he said this....
Second : the three bridges are located at tidmouth. The bottom bridge is the tidmouth harbour line the middle bridge is the main line loop line and the top bridge is ducks branch line before connecting to the main line. Plus the top line can havebulgy on it. In the episode bulgy meets the bridge because he went the wrong way. The shortcut to knapdord doesnt exist and he messed up and met the bridge. Going by the logic of all at sea duck departs ARLESBURGH harbour ( yes it is ARLESBURGH because wenever see those sets in brendam and the sun sets at the key to the west) and goes over those sets.
Three : thomass line loop line connects to the little western at tidmouth hault and goes down to the mainline to tidmouth.
Four: the skarloey railway is a loop with the mid sodor looking exactly like it looks on the map in sleeping beauty. The mid sodor is a T shape with the middle of the T being skarloey station. The west part goes to betrams mine to which a track goes from thomass line. Iwill get to that. The east part goes to vicarstown along the bluebell railway which connects to the mid sodor.
Five: the track in bye George goes to bertrams mine from thomass line. When george did the work like an idiot the track got repaired and in tobys discovery it was in normal service. So the track is standard gauge not narrow gauge how you said in your old IOS map video.
6. Callan is after the 3 bridges before thomass ducks and the main line junction off. The whole coastal bypass is empty.
I hopeihelped with something i was thinking about this for a long while. This video really inspired me so i wanted to help on the part 2.
Last time I was this early, Thomas was still filmed with models.
Yes! Love your map videos. Have you considered doing one on the various RWS maps and comparing the details? Gonna make dinner and watch this one now.
I find it interesting that in the series, most engines pulling goods train travel northwards from Knaford going to the loop line instead of going southwards. Maybe the Mainline loop also serves as a goods line or something especially for the flying kipper.
Episodes that supports this:
-Edward & Gordon
-Thomas & The Breakdown Train
-Dirty Objects
-Fish (S4)
-Something in the Air
I’m in a process of building a Trainz Route based on this map being a hybrid of the Books and the TV series.
most people use knapford sheds for engines such as diesel, murdoch, harvey, ect
Mitton would be proud of Unlucky Tugs for this video.
I also started keeping track of how many times the Sun is shining from the north (and not south like it should), but I lost count...
This map is very good and it was presented splendidly! My favourite part was at the end when he mentioned "Roblox" (I ain't a game creator but do play Roblox). Very good job!
I don’t care what they say about the windmill, there are multiple windmills in Europe, I think we can pretend Thomas’s branch line has an identical one. That is my headcanon.
24:06 I just have it as Thomas doing push-pull things for the TV Series, even though Thomas is seen going Back facing down the branch. I also think the Railway Series sheds and yard is there. Specifically the sheds are on that middle track in the yard, and the yard for railway series yard is where it always is, along with a milk and cattle dock fo course. Thats my ideal Ffarquhar.
Also I think the HiT era windmill is the same windmill going to Ulfstead. Just a Headcannon thing. I know its Classic Era focused, I just wanted an excuse to explain my Headcannon Ffarquhar.
The 3rd bridge in that weird as triple bridge bit could be a road and rail bridge
My headcannon for the second branch to the Suddery area is that the second line was at one point a competing railroad that was later bought out by the NWR
So cool someone has mapped this out
Personally, the maps are my favorite videos. The creativity of thinking where every location is amazing and I wish was a trait I had. I have tried to map out starting with the first couple episodes but keeping track of every track is just so difficult and I feel like I have no space to do it. If I could have one request I would say to continue trying to do the Skarloey and Midsodor railway for a part two and maybe as a part three, take your interpretation of seasons 5-12 as well as their respective movies and dare I say including magic railroad as they do include a station called Killaban which is on the mainline somewhere and do a final map video as as far as we know, have no evidence of a map from those seasons and its movies.
I will admit, I am impressed that you managed to make a comprehensive map that can be considered official based on series 1 through 4. I would be interested to maybe see if you could somehow try to slowly try to make sense and add on the rest of the series up to series 7 and the great Waterloo.
So was thinking Brendam Docks could be a Ffarquhar Quarry/Claypits situation with having two harbours. The Season 2 one and the Season 5 onward one.
R.I.P. David Mitton 🙏
25:58 maybe a bridge was there in the old days, but then they didn’t have enough money to rebuild it, so they made a car fairy
Please do a part 2 !!! With the East end of the map.!
Love these videos really do 🥇
We neeeeeeeeeed a part 2
Please. This video is awesome. A part 2 with the sr mr and the other railway would be amazing. Pleaseesaesaeesase
This definitely gonna help me make my dream layout!
Fun fact: this re-upload of the original went up on my birthday 🥳
7:20 In Knapford shunting yards, there is this very noticeable bridge. Sometimes you can see trains running over it. 14:55 According to the concept drawing, it leads into the center of Knapford town, not far from the station forecourt. But what is the actual purpose of this bridge, and where exactly do the tracks from there lead? Strictly speaking, there is no logical explanation for it, and the bridge merely serves to create a spectacular film set. My previous explanation was that it is a road bridge for cars that crosses the tracks. However, this contradicts the scenes in which trains are seen running over the bridge. This is generally a very difficult topic...
The bridge leads to Callan (north) and Knapford (South) . It's only for passeger trains of the main line. The goods trains follow this line from bellow (Shutting yards)
Maybe construction of the little western goes till Season 5? Callan could be a new station in S4 and the Fishing Village is new in Season 5.
A weir is Aman made water feature to help control water the loch or lock is literally a lock that is used to ferry canal boats think Panama canal locks on a extremely small scale
Really great work. Would love to see a part 2 of this some time in the future.
Hey Tug, just wanted to let you know the map link the description is broken :(
Love the video! Great work bringing the map to life in an easier to read format!
unlucky tug you are da chad
In a couple years tug will become the next reverend W. Awdry
I don’t think Tug could ever live up to Awdry’s level, and he doesn’t really need to.
I will use this map for anything that has to due with the island of sodor. Awesome👍
I beg you make a tv series map + your own sodor map + culdee fell. What would be more ultimate!
The second tunnel at Hackenbeck appears to be a homage to the Haywards Heath tunnel in Sussex.
I'm working on building this on Minecraft. I'm almost done with Knapford Station.
Good luck!
Thank you!
Hey, Unlucky Tug. Could you maybe have a go at creating a map of Pontypandy from Fireman Sam?
That's a cool idea! Unfortunately, it might be a while before Tug makes any new content as he's still trying to salvage the old videos from the terminated channel.
I hope we get a Part 2 of this
Perhaps , parts of Thomas's services have stops on TLW , or alternatively, it was ex Tidmouth, Knapford and Elsebridge trackage thats used by both TLW and Thomas's line(s)
The best map ever!
Will there be a part 2 to this? I would guess the stations in later seasons are added as the line is extended?
I'd like you to locate the Whistling Forest, Boxford's summer house, and Hiro's hideout settings.
This is my favourite video
This map is really good! However I i think there are two things that are wrong with it.
First: is that I think the little western connects the Knapford harbor. We see engines going past Bulstrode’s breach or sets similar to that before or after getting to Knapford harbor in episodes like fish and something in the air. Donald’s duck also says duck’s line reaches a port where big ships come in.
Second: I think Toby’s line wasn’t reopened in s5 but in s3. We see in Donald’s duck that the little western has access to Ffarquhar quarry, and there is no point in calling Haultraugh a junction station if Toby’s was still closed. Also a lot of behind the scenes content also disprove that. Like concept art calling the station Oliver fines the old manor station instead of arlesdale end or something that could imply it’s arlesdale end, the film dates for the Oliver’s find station and arlesdale end being a month, the Oliver’s find station and every version of arlesdale end being completely different, and the s3 map calling the line between arlesdale end and the Ffarquhar the new quarry line implying that the line was reopen in s3.
However I really enjoy the hard work you did on the map. Keep it up 👍.
Bold of Mitton to assume engines could like trees
More like bold of Andrew Brenner..
what about vicarstown goods depot it was in season 3 it was in escape and rusty to the rescue surely it would be in mitton's map
The whole video is awesome, of course, but my favorite part is that the last set you placed is the first set we see in the intro. Was that intentional, or was it just a lucky turn of events?
Could you try doing a map for the east side of sodor and include all the model era for the map
If bulgy return in cgi shouldn’t his bridge and field of chickens be located
If Duncan talked about an elephant statue in Emily saves the world from runaway elephant shouldn’t elephant park be relocated
There probably would be a map for Season 4 and maybe one for Season 5 (the HIT era bible gave us some hints on where certain locations would be) but I don’t know about Seasons 6 and 7.
What videos are left to be reuploaded? Cars on the Road, Season 5, Magic Railroad, Sodor's Finest on Percy... any more?
Not sure why Tug hasn't re-uploaded the Thomas: Debunked shorts again, but there's also those 2 Tugs: Parody Dub videos... i hope they weren't lost cause they are no question the funniest things i've ever watched!.
So where would Arthur's fish train go now? Cant go down the little western can it?
Elsbridge is a mess, I'm making a trainz route and I struggle to make sense of how trains come in and go out. such a pain
19:11 It looks like a tadpole.
If the express goes through Elsbridge, there's no way the track from Elsbridge to Tidmouth is a single track if Gordon goes on it. Also, Gordon goes on the track with three bridges with the express which is not on the main line.
We need to crowdfund a HO scale recreation of this. Don't @ me
Hi Tug, just wanted to let you know that the link to the original David Mitton map just shows a "blank" image. Is there any way you could fix this? I'd love to see the original and zoom in on it in all its glory.
I still think your map from May 2021 is much easier to understand
Will you do a part 2 that fills in gaps with seasons 5-7?!!!
Will you make these changes to your TV map?
q and a or update soon?
Your train s inspired me
16:30 that's Raidillon actually
This is a map that if you were actually on Sodor, you'll have trouble searching for the right places.
Can I ask you a question? It’s based on curiosity. What do you think the speed limit for the express on sodor is?
Hey, Tug, I was watching Thomas and Percy's Christmas Adventure, and noticed something about Ulfstead. Toby came from the opposite direction of Ffarquhar when he entered the mountain village. Do you think the line might continue and meet up with Toby's line or just a mistake when filming?
Hey unlucky tug, I understand if this video is gone but could u add back everything great about “The adventure begins”? Or maybe the everything great about the Thomas movies u have done?
My one question is, why would Percy shunt some random trucks into a random siding near Wellsworth? wouldn’t it make more sense for him to put them in some sort of shunting yard? Not on the main line. If anybody knows why this is, please tell me.
Henry’s kipper crash is before maron
awesome