Original Klon vs Klones! - New Warm Audio Centavo & Wampler Tumnus!
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» 0:00 Welcome Back!
» 0:29 About the Klon!
» 1:16 Introducing the Pedals
» 1:51 How They Are Set Up
» 2:30 Comparison!!!
» 5:42 Comparing with More Gain!
» 9:20 Now You Guess!
» 11:26 How Did You Do?
» 11:58 Pete's Thoughts
» 12:13 Another Pedal From Warm Audio?
» 12:29 With a Les Paul?
» 13:32 The Mod Switch on the Centavo?
» 16:10 Comparing with Everything at 12
» 19:41 The Warm Audio ZenDrive?
» 21:24 Explaining the Controls
» 22:40 Let's Hear It!
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» 24:20 Do All Pedals Sound the Same?
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I’d like to thank Brian Wampler for saving my wallet.
Brian Wampler would like to thank you for filling his wallet. The $20 mosky version is just as good
@@twenty3electronics where I live they came out to about the same price so I went with a second hand tumnus
On that note, I'd like to thank MXR for saving me money AND remedying the one thing I always wanted to change about Klones, in giving them a less spongy and quicker attack to be more suitable for trem picking,like the original Centaurs. And one more thank you to them for putting their circuit into a larger (hot pink, no less) enclosure because I hate mini pedals.
Brian really knows how to dial in a drive pedal, IMO.
@@lance134679 I'm fighting with myself on buying his mini compressor and mini tumnus. I'm trying to just live off my regular ole boss compressor.
I love the Warm Audio stuff. Mics, EQs, and now the pedals. Another informative demo!
I bought a Centavo last month. Singularly sensational sonic joy! It’s like when you first discover that power chords are a rhythmic, tonal art form and life will never be the same…
There was something so entertaining and down-right musically simplistically beautiful about that little comparison you did around the 9 minute mark 😂
Dang. I bought a Tumnus Deluxe after the last video and when the Centavo came out, I ordered one immediately. That thing has been a mainstay on my smaller board and people LOVE it!! I gotta be honest, on stage you just can't tell and they both rock equally well. Can't go wrong with either.
After your last Klon face-off, I went right out and purchased the Wampler Tumnus mini - ZERO regrets. It's a great pedal at a great price.
You should have a regret imo- that you didn't buy the Tumnus Deluxe. Generally speaking, the smaller version of most pedals is fine- the larger versions don't do a lot more than the minis- but not this time. The Tumnus Deluxe has a really potent eq section and a toggle that adds quite a bit of gain to the pedal. If you take that away- it loses about half of its versatility.
@@stoneysdead689 I use both with my red Chanel on my 5150 3 combo insane sound !
The Tumnus Germanium sounds the best of them all, but only in the subtle mid dynamics and richness when properly pushed through a good amp. The vintage diodes do seem to add that extra few percent and make it totally indistinguishable from an OG Klon. @@stoneysdead689
@@stoneysdead689indeed. Being able to push or pull mids from it is very useful. Gain all the way up with the switch on is something I couldn’t go without.
Bought a Ceriatone Centura from you a few months back. Thanks for sorting out the miniscule issue I had - you really find out how good a store is when you have a complaint.
Only regret; I bottled out of getting it in the purple finish.
I have a centavo and I love it. I stack it with other drive pedals and it is absolutely inspiring. I recommend trying different drive pedals stacked on one side or the other. So many cool tones. The centavo is staying on my pedal board for sure. I'm running a LP 50s standard through a tonemaster superreverb. Some of the magic here is cranking the amp and just cracking open the drive and output. Gives me a clean/dirty smooth smooth tone that really responds to your playing. I love Andersons btw! You guys rock and are the best out there. Thank you for all the great videos and awesome picking and tone. I actually bought my amp because of an Anderson's review and I couldn't be happier. Thanks for all the help with the pursuit of tone Andersons!
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“Engineers are hard, or moist, or both, you never know”. I’m sure I’ll use that one at some point in the future. Thanks Cap’n !
Great demo! 🤘
You guys got me to buy a Tumnus, best Value pedal for my needs. This just proves it was the right move.
Love your vids. Very informative guys.
Im glad to see other affordable options out there.
Can't really tell any noticeable difference between all these pedals. You Gents put out the best videos!
The end of this video is pure GOLD!
The RYRA Klone sounds just as good.
Literally no shortage of this sound/feel out there now
Really enjoy Pete as your presenting partner, such smooth multidimensional player
The klon has a softer envelope to the clipping when it comes in. Could hear it every time. The tumnus brings in more high mids and a touch of harshness and thinness to the tone. The warm audio is closer to the real klon in the softness of the clipping, but less friendly somehow, with a fatter bottom. That being said, the audience would never know the difference in a million years. But gear isn't for the audience ...it's to inspire the player... so whichever one you like is the right one!
the top is end is thicker on the tumnus, it's close enough but the real deal has less high mids like you said.
Perfect analysis… my thoughts exactly
My thoughts exactly. I heard the difference every time. I couldn’t really even compare the Tumnus. Was the warm audio in same ball park?- yes. But there is a key element that every klon clone is missing.. no one has been able to successfully replicate that beautiful circuit. There’s just nothing like it. Is it worth $4000? Look, if you got the money for it.. why not?
Pot tolerances were not accounted for, so while I agree with your sonic assessment, that information should not be assumed outside this particular test. Just nudging the tumnus tone knob down a bit (but within pot tolerances) would probably get it much closer. Maybe the clipping character would even be closer with a slight Gain knob nudge
The argument continues 😂 I think you nailed it… play what inspires you. I have a 96 Klon and several clones. In person the Klon is different, more touch sensitive and has more harmonic. The warmth it has is unmatched. The warm audio unit comes close in person but the tried getting the warmth by high passing, the Klon does not do that. There is a reason why this pedal is copied so much.
“No! No difference. Only different in your mind.” - Yoda
They sound simular but.... So much pedals and gear, everytime is fun time to watch this Chanel thank to the hole Team
Only my wallet can tell the difference between these three! haha Fun stuff as always, gents! Thanks for my morning dose of Andertons!
Great content as always. I had the original Zendrive when Hermida was making them and I never really got on with it on my strat/tweed setup. Wish I would have hung on to it to try with my rigs as I changed them over the years.
I've used a Tumnus Deluxe for a few years and it's great! The Klon craze is like the Tulip bubble... time will tell!
It's my favorite pedal. I just leave the thing on for everything.
Damn, you went historical. Haha. Great comparison though.
Love the tumnus. Please do some videos with the often overlooked p90 pickups
I got the Warm Drive, it’s really smooth and sweet. I love it.
Warm drive in front of a Centavo is basically an Unobtanium pedal on a budget... Just got both of them and they are indeed two great recreations of two great circuits for great value/quality factor... Thumbs up Warm Audio and Danish Pete for the great riffs and licks.
I've tried them back and forth. I've actually landed on the Centavo first, with the gain up so that it's clipping. The Warmdrive afterwards so that it's pretty clean with my guitar at 6-7, breaking up after that.
However… I stuck an old Keeley c4 compressor with the compression at around 11 to add the Centavo, but without it pushing the Warmdrive, or pushing it with the comp off.
The Zen Drive was most definitely a Hermida product. Alf does an awesome job with his designs, and he's a super cool dude as well.
the warmdrive is an incredible sounding pedal! 😉
I bought the tumnus mini a while ago and love it.
The Klon is a beatiful sounding pedal, my favourite overdrive for sure, but nowadays is clearly just hype, there are a lot of choices in order to replace it if you don't have galleons of dollars to spend, and this video is the demonstration of that. Great!
That 10/11 o'clock setting has always been my sweet spot with the actual Klon I had and the Klones that have followed since I sold it.
The Tumnus is an amazing piece of hardware. It literally adds tone to my digital sound. Incredible
That Tumnus sounds Fantastic !
- How many Klone comparison do you need?
- YES
I feel like this video is going to cause a(nother) spike in Tumnus sales. Lovely video, and my does that little thing sound great.
I Have a deluxe tumnus on the way, thanx for comforting me in my choice !
Excellent comment about people in clubs drinking any talking. They don’t care what strings you use, what pedals, what amp…
The biggest reason players spend big $ on gear is to impress other players. Not to sound critical, but it’s a lesson I’ve learnt.
The Tumnus is the way to go, I don't even feel that I need the deluxe Tumnus, this little thing is good and close enough
Had my gold / no horsie Klon ripped off, let a "friend" use it for his studio, as he preceded to move out of state and tell me he traded it for something. These demos are very helpful and i think theres a lot of great sounding attainable replica style pedals. Thanks for the great vids!
that sucks
Just got the centavo as a birthday gift and it is an actual force. I was looking at the tumnus before I was given the Centavo but it is such a functional and clean OD that I don't see myself replacing it. I can't afford a klon but the sounds out of the Centavo are both quality tones but dynamic as well. Love the optional mod switch on the back as well to change eqs a bit.
Do you also happen to own a Tube Screamer? I'd love to know if they stack well
@@gabopalacios2028 ive used a TS before and id compare that closer to a Boss BD waza. Id say the centavo has cleaner grit and break up than a typical TS. Tbh most ODs can hang and get by its just musicians get real picky haha
I just run my guitar cord through one side of a shoebox and out the other. True bypass, but I get that placebo effect and it makes all the difference. Very subtle, and it keeps the audience guessing. The imaginary audience in my bedroom. 😂😂😂
I'm rocking for the same crowd...awesome people!
HahAHAaaHAAA that's gold! You are a funny man. 🤣😂😅🤣😁😂
@@jaskiniamestwa i’m glad that they don’t use lighters anymore. Because it’s a fire hazard, I set up my phone and I film myself. Too much information? 😳😳😳
Best comment!
Cigarette packs work well too - for a smokier tone!
I bought a Tumnus off the last shootout and this just made me even happier I did
The Tumnus is fantastic value, but I would argue the Tumnus Deluxe is a better Klon clone, as it has the toggle switch for normal and hot clipping, and the EQ. So you can get even more customization options.
Wampler Tumnus is just an incredible pedal. No need to spend a penny more.
Always love my daily dose of Andertons! Keeps me regular.
Me too. Better than prunes!
Brian Wampler has designed some great pedals. Great pedals.
The tumnus is a hell of a pedal.
@@rwesleyslaven I use it to boost my effectrode blackbird tube preamp and get endless flavors of crunchy goodness. Definitely worth getting the tumnus deluxe if you like tweaking the EQ.
@@zorbcanoo8574 I don’t want the responsibility of tweaking the eq. Just set it and forget it for me lol
@@rwesleyslaven Tumnus Deluxe is one of the most versatile drives out there. I have a standard Tumnus, but got the Deluxe for more options. It can do the K thing beautifully, but it can also do so much more. it goes from clean boost, to light sweet overdrive to heavy metal with ease.
I love the Tumnus (for being accurate but affordable), plexi drive, pinnacle and metaverse
These pedals sound great. Alle 3 of them.
You guys have my dream job.
I got to check out the centavo and the warm drive when the store I work got them. I was blown away. but here's the even more fun part. you should stack the warm drive upon the centavo. get a Strat. and it just sounds absolutely brutal. biggest surprise from these pedals. its so good!!
Centavo first I guess... ?
@@walterbarkhuysen-tacke548 i don’t remember which order. But I think i tried out both ways. Both are just bonkers 😂 so good
Damn, just shows if you take the time and fiddle with even a klon clone you can get so close its crazy. Save yourself some money and buy a Wampler and it seems like it has a wider range on top of the klon range. Plus you get to take up an 8th of the board instead of half. great video as always guys.
I have a cortex capture of a klone ando it's crazy!!.. amazing sound!!
I got a Ceriatone Horsebreaker pedal recently and it's amazing I can't really say it sounds like a Klon because I've never played an actual Klon but I'd say it's close enough not to many people could tell the difference and The Bluesbreaker side is excellent as well🤘
Especially considering most people listening to your music have no idea what a Klon is and care even less. As long as you can jam!!
Brian must be rubbing his hands in absolute glee and laughing all the way to the bank after this and the Klon Shootout Blind Test Lee and Pete did earlier on. Purchased a Tumnus Deluxe on the strength of that vid as I'm sure many others did.
I am still using a JHS Modded EHX Soul Food and love it to death.
To be honest, I think the Tumnus and the Centavo outdo the actual Klon a bit. The Centaur sounds bassier and not quite as hot. I think the Tumnus has a little more of a treble sound, and the Centavo is probably the beefiest overall. A touch more gain and midrange is what I was picking up. If you guys had just came into the video blind, I probably wouldn't have known the difference between the Tumnus and the Centavo. The Klon I would have guessed was the tamest pedal when driven a bit. I still think the Klon sounded the best when Pete was doing that spanky cleaner blues at the beginning of the video but that's not what I use the pedal for, and there is no way I'd ever shell out that kind of money for a pedal.
The Centavo wins out for me, but I'd love to have the Tumnus on my board as well.
I'm going to buy the wampler for my boost edge of break up blues tone and the centavo for my big fat classic rock tone.
How really useful!
Staying with my Tumnus Deluxe yah
Can I ask what the guitar pot is at? Full on 10 or 8 ish? Sometimes that makes a difference.
Isn't the mod switch just changing between pairs of diodes? The diodes in a Klon don't actually become active until you really bring the gain up past 2 as far as I'm aware - hence no difference on cleaner settings.
As I was listening, it sounded like there was a slight underbuzz on the second one that I was kinda right on in recognizing a difference, if one existed, in the blind pass. like an extra lower note that was resonating, and then the third one had a slightly deeper similar thing. Calling it a fatter bottom end would make sense to me.
Pun intended but I think the Warm Audio has just a tiny bit warmer or"less harsh" sound. But could just be the settings since each is going to be slightly different in the exact same knob positions. But again...both great alternatives and the warm audio would be great if it was in a standard size enclosure. Sounds awesome as does the Tumnus.
Warmdrive sounds great. I don't want to buy another drive pedal but might not be able to stop myself lol.
Well done.. Wampler for the Victory
I have a Tumnus at the start of my overdrive cascade and a Way Huge Conspiracy Theory at the end, So much Klon clone goodness
That warm drive reminds me of a Crowther Hot Cake. Thick and crunchy.
Hey Lee, are those Fender power supplies getting into stock again any time soon? They seem to be sold out everywhere ... (especially the big one)
I would like to see Lee and Pete do a shootout with the real Klon and the cheapest version available, the fabled Mosky Golden Horse, which I just love and use on my pedalboard! be very interesting to see the difference! thanks guys!
So in the end they're probably quite right with suggesting to just choose whatever pedal's look you like best, be it a Centavo, a Centura, a Tumnus, an Archer or Conspiracy Theory or what have you.
ive got the tumnus, just a nice organic crunch
It's interesting that I can hear 3 distinct sounds thru my phone speaker. First one is the most expressive and best followed by the middle one and the third is very compressed sounding.
Btw the Wompler and Cenvato which one do you think would be better for a bass guitar? Please help I want one of these so bad.
On Beyer 990 Pro's you can hear an increased amount of treble in the Tumnus. Probably just a slight difference in pot tolerances.
Guys, a real serious drive with an insanely great sound is the Mad Professor Simble Overdrive.
It’s supposed to be a Dumble and does it well, but it does other sounds that are so different than other drives and lovingly lush.
11:07 - 11:11 An image I will NEVER get out of my head and will cause nightmares for years to come......😳😂
@6:33 with headphones on, I was able to discern from the Tumnus clarity vs the Klons 100% It's all about tolerances of the pots...
Unrelated question: I have been looking for a large display “beat per minute” device, can you tell me who makes the device in the upper right background of your video, what is it called, or where can it be purchased. I tried to search for that model, with no luck so far, thanks.
Why isn't the "Output" knob on the Warm Audio pedal horizontally aligned properly with the other two controls?
On all these comparisons are we evaluating only component tolerances? What I’d like to see is say 5 Tumnus compared to see what the sound spread is like compared to the original, maybe one will be very close? However I’m not sure how close the actual schematics are?
Tumnus wins it for me, great sound and size really does matter. And my Wampler Plexi Drive Mini is awesome so I have faith in the brand for quality.
The first time a klon was on my radar was a Joe Perry rig rundown years and years ago. No one talked about klones, or how hard to find they were
I like the Tumnus because it's small and I think it sounded the smoothest of the three but they all sound super close.
I actually think the tumnus is the best I bought one I love it too
Man, that Sonic Blue Friedman!
I run my Centavo into my Tumnus Deluxe, OCD and Smallbox. Play half of my stuff with just the Ceentavo and using the Tumnus as a boost with a just a little less gain or vice versa, than Centavo, like a King of Tone setup.
No difference at all but I still hope I win the real one …. So can sell it😂. Great video again chaps. 🕺🎸
So.. what will the price uplift be on a relic’d WA Centavo? If you can do it to guitars, why not pedals?
I tried the Mosky one and it's no longer working. It was quite noisy but with a noise gate, it sounded quite nice used as a clean boost with a plexi but it just suddenly stopped working. When you plug in the power supply to the pedal, it actually turns off the power supply and won't work. Never experienced that before. Luckily it wasn't expensive and was only bought out of interest. Just a little heads up if anyone was thinking about pulling the trigger on one of these. Like I say, it actually sounds quite good but I'd only used it a couple of times before it completely stopped working. Great video as always Lee and Pete. 👍🏼🎸
I've had a Mosky Silver Horse for a year or two. No problems with it. Cheap stuff though can be luck of the draw with quality control.
I have two Mosky's (SH) and they still work perfectly after 4 years
I don’t know why but I love Klon shoot out videos.
The difference is more apparent when you use it to push a TS. In that scenario I much preferred the RYRA over the tumnus. On its own the tumnus is the winner
Are you guys sure you got that switching device thingy hooked up right. I couldn't hear any difference. Lol
You should put a looper in front of all of them and loop a track and then play through the 3 and see if the sounds changes at all…
Do you guys have a Rangemaster? I would love to hear some rangemaster clones compared!
I have a Tumnus with Mr Tumnus illustration on the front, before the estate of CS Lewis asked Wampler to remove it (I presume thats why it went). Wonder when will it be worth 3 grand?!
This on the left, the clone is perfect despite how it looks like ... The one in between is best for transportation because of low weight and small size. That one on the right is pure beauty at all.
Some of your videos have a audio clipping issue, a little "pop" sound all thourghout the video. Please address it. Otherwise, great video!. CONGRATS!
EDIT: it was MY setup, sorry 😅
Yeah I felt like I could usually tell when the Warm Audio clone was on. But the Tumnus mimics the Klon Centaur almost identically at the right settings.
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Yeah, this Klon thing got a lot of peoples money. In a mix it just isn’t that huge a thing. It’s really just about eq when in a mix. Soulfood, Tumnus, Archer all do a very good job at sounding close enough in a mix.
My favorite KLONE, the Decibelics Golden Horse… it’s real boutique home made pedals, built by a single guy in Spain, each pedal is carefully tested and tweaked to match the original KLON. It’s around 200 bucks, but it’s worth it and sound just as good as a real KLON. If you don’t like it, then it means you wouldn’t like the original used for the cloning.
if your on the budget, try the 68 Pedals Inca Kola, a great zen drive!😎😎😎
Did the frame rate on your videos increase to 60fps?
I’m confused on the Zendrive aren’t they available one lovepedal’s site?