How to Frame Stairs Squeak Free Stairs
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- čas přidán 5. 08. 2024
- Stairs get a lot of use in a home, and I feel like its good to over build them some. This stair could easily get away with 3 stringers, but 4 places the middle two at about the walk line. 2x8 tread is overkill but it drastically stiffens the stair and provides a better connection to the tread. All of this reduces deflection which prevents squeaks.
Gluing the treads and risers further helps the assembly to act as a unit, not as just individual pieces. The Strong-Tie SDWS 5" timber screws lock the assembly into the wall much more tightly than nails and won't loosen over time.
0:00 Cutting Risers
5:29 Cutting Treads
8:34 Installing Stringers
14:53 Installing Risers
20:29 Installing Treads
26:39 Second Set
34:29 Wrap up
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Imagine, you are 17, just finish a special school in carpentry and you first mentor is this guy... At 30 you would be rich ....and proound.
Sloppy work. Can see him cutting a lot of corners because he’s lazy. So go ahead 17 year olds. Mentor
@@isaactaylor1833 what’s he doing sloppy??? I’d like to know
pour water and wood will inflate
@@isaactaylor1833yeah if you could please enlighten us on how he’s “cutting corners.”
I'm a finish carpenter since 2003. Just an indoor cat. Your videos are awesome, you're a great carpenter. I bet hanging doors behind your crew would be nice. Cheers!
Subscriber saying hello from across these great states in ATL Georgia. Efficiency and methodical framing with happy people, doesn’t get much better. Thanks for the content.
That Parlode noise would drive me nuts. Milwaukee for the win
He reviewed the Milwaukee, it’s heavier than the Paslaode.
try ear protection
Boss moves only. Nice to follow a pro, looks very effortless compared to my own DIY struggles
Really enjoy AF vids because this guy is good, candid, and mostly just gets down to business. Not a fan of channels where the guys try to be both tradesman and entertainers.
More like, how to build a set of tank stairs! Very nice
It’s mesmerizing and fun to watch such amazing productivity and quality stair building.
Enjoyed watching your videos always a learning experience I enjoy the honest commentaries and the humor as well . Keep on doing what you are doing .Thanks
As soon as i click to watch i automatic like and comment. Keep up the good work at teaching big T💯💯👍
I framed houses for around 10 years in the early 90’s before nail guns and cordless tools were widely used. Got into HVAC because I didn’t think my body would hold up to 40 years of hand framing I guess I would have been ok with all the advantages these days. Great job!!
“Early 90s before nail guns” wat
@@2brazy4ubitch ya they were around in the 70's and glue wss a must onn floors ect in the 90's just got better not stronger just better for the environment waste. Since they took certain solvents out.
Good job Tim.Good learning Thanks
Very good job 🇲🇽
Nice solid set of stairs Tim 👍
I enjoyed that, so thanks for the video..
Definitely awesome!👍👌👊
The pasload has improved since I last used one in 2003.. They were total junk back then. I'm happy to see that they upped their game.
Man you get alot of how to comments in here AWESOME FRAMERS
Thank you Excellent
Great video. Thanks. If you really want to go crazy, use LVL for the stringers and 1-1/8 sturdi-floor for the riser/steps. . No shrinkage.
Yeah anyone who has used LVL will tell you there is plenty of both transverse and lengthwise shrinkage unless you have the house conditioned with materials sitting inside for months before making measurements / cuts. LSL and “high grade” OSB also move quite a bit especially if they get rained on but even if they don’t get rained on.
@@2brazy4ubitch "Plenty" = much less than dimensional lumber. Not a good argument. In so far as rained is concerned, that need not be mentioned. Wood and rain have never gotten along well, unless you're talking about trees.
Perhaps we can add brick to the list because settlement is going to be very minimal per one storey of height - less than wood
@@2brazy4ubitch Sure, as long as we're watching the "Awesome Masons" channel.
The point would be more that all wood and engineered wood moves quite a lot. LVL, plywood, OSB, LSL, everything. So as long as everyone working with wood products knows that and designs to accommodate the associated movement all is well.
Quality work. Most don't do half that
Nice. Got to use that glue this week and it was beautiful\, but need to get the long applicator. That stuff is sticky!
I always run a small strip of tar paper between the spacer board and the stringers and framing. I find it helps prevent the sqeaks by wood to wood contact.
Wat
@@2brazy4ubitch I cut 3 1/2" strips of tar paper/roofing felt and staple them to both sides of the 2x4 spacer board so that there is no wood on wood contact with the stringer or the studs that they are attached to. This helps eliminate squeaking
@@Nagantfan762 Ah
And no glue bond. Roofing felt is even history on roofs synthetic felt is what we use now
Is there much of a difference between carpet grade and stain grade stairs at this point in the project? I assume you would adjust your riser and tread sizes to account for the finish material that will be laid over it in the finish process, but would any other considerations or changes be necessary?
Are you building another Winchester house? The stairs to nowhere are tremendous.
Hi Tim what made you swap out to Badger toolbelts from Diamondback.
nice job Tim. How did you attach the second flight of stairs to the platform? Was this part in the video?
The Milwaukee framing nail gun is pretty good. No gas 👍
A lot of glue and don't miss if you nail. If you screw just use the right screws and nails ring shanked preferably and a knee wall under stairs if possible helps with movement. Those are the rules I use for quality stairs and good lumber especially not cupped. Engineered lumber if it's not finished is best.
Thank You 😊
I'm sure you already noticed, but you put glue on the riser treads before you actually squared up the stringers so some of the glue didn't actually adhere to anything..
Looks good. What will the finish material be on the treads and landing?
Carpet
You need one of them cheap halogen work lights in a jerry rigged box made of scrap board and tyvek. Keeps everything warm, can even dry your gloves but leave a hole in top to let the heat out because it gets HOT!!
Since you furred the stringers off 1-1/2" what will fill that space? Drywall and stringer trim? Also would this be the same way you would build the stairs regardless of if it is carpet or hardwood?
What do I need to buy with the dewalt skill saw(?) So I can rip wood too?
30° Milwaukee framing nailer would be great for you
He reviewed the Milwaukee it’s heavier than the Paslode.
@@toddb8479 I know. I have it myself and love it. For something like he was doing...all below the waist it wouldn't be bad at all. And a lot quieter
So are you guys doing skirt boards even though it's going to be carpet? Just curious what's going on with the inch and a half spacing on each side I know a half inch will be taken up by drywall.
Usually still have a finished skirt to die carpet into. Wrapping them with carpet is thing of the past.
I just had to install a railing system on a house with half inch osb risers. And those crappy super hard Masonite treads.
Great vid. Silicone never hardens. Use that for life to bond the treads.
Tell that to my ex wife
Okay wife. Your stairs should have silicone to fasten then together at the treads. Boom
Mate I can smell that paslode gas :P
Do you have to clean out the glue dispenser nozzles after every use? I assume the glue hardens and clogs them up.
So the way those guns work you actually close off at the tip so it's not supposed to. My experience using the OSI subfloor adhesive is you do have to clean them semi regularly. Could just be that product. I ended up throwing all that crap away in frustration at one point. They have a lot more brands now so I've thought about going back to using some of it.
I'm looking forward to getting my hands on them. A little pricey but the pros of it seem well worth it. I have the small dispenser for the great stuff which works similar but dispenses a different product. That gun you close off like this one and can keep a product on the gun for 4-6weeks just closed off. After that time frame if you haven't put a new can on and squeezed a bit out you would then have to run a can with cleaner through it. I would guess this gun is probably the same? Would like 2 know from some experience as well tho
yayyyy
What does framing pay up there where you are?
Typically around $200000/hour
Glue is the key .
I like how the Paslode sits flat on its head common milkwaukee !!! Dewalt!!!!!
How will this staircase be finished? Carpet? Another layer of hard wood?
I heard him say carpet
Tim what kind of pencil do you use? Link it for that sweet sweet Amazon referral money.
Metabo ftw
Do you leave the threads like that, or do you come back and screw them later? I was always told that nails can be the source of squiks. Two big thumbs up for your channel all the way from Norway.
That and the glue
@@kickyourfaceandlaugh607 where I work we use the quick drive to screw it down, I would prefer just nailing everything down just to get it done quicker but at the end of the day, as long as Im getting paid and the boss is happy I don't care.
Ever try to bend a screw. What happens they break nails will bend with the movement. And ever try to pull a ring shaped nail good luck you end up just breaking the heads off and it's still nails together. The shape and friction activates the glue on them. I never used a screw with that glue on them. But haven't seen everything.
Them thick ring shank nails and all that glue..you ain't hearing a thing going up and down them steps
@@billzima7068 except footsteps. 😅
Almost German @3:15 und 👍🏻😉
Sir can you show me the formula on how to cut a Stringer
He posted a video 9 days ago on stair layout.
@@royordway9157 i will go and look it up. Thanks
The first set extends past the studs by two steps...
Yep it does.
Quality work but why design a house with stairs like this. Furniture really loves you guys LMAO
When I pulled the carpet off the incredibly squeaky 40 ye old stairs (carpet was 40 yrs old too, eww!) I wondered what I would find. It looks like they built the stairs to your specs. Not a screw in sight. My resolve is to never build stairs without screws.
Your stairs were not built with modern polyurethane adhesive, I doubt screws would add much. His stairs cannot be taken apart, only cut apart.
Sure, compare 40 years ago to these products. That sounds like an accurate comparison.
@@AwesomeFramers also, even if the stairs look very similar, I’m sure your workmanship is far superior. I didn’t mean to offend you. The nails are very large but I can believe they were made of inferior metal.
I saw a UBC from 1943 that said “use metal nails” everywhere I’ve driven flathead screws, the floors and stairs quit squeaking. I predrilled and countersunk each one. I’m a weakling old lady so need all the help I can get setting the screws. I thought maybe screws weren’t used because the installers didn’t want to take the extra time.
You put in those stairs in 35 minutes. I’m totally in awe of that!
In North Korea we use horse meat glue for our stair (singular)
We want to get another stair next year if russia builds us more hand saws
I’ll NEVER. Purchase another Passlode product. I had a nailer misfire and the projectile actually went through the aluminum guide. I removed it, filed the burrs, but it never worked properly even after that; it would always catch and dry fire. Contact customer support, because it’s was only 3 months old and the guy pretty much told me I was on my own.. I sold it another guy as parts, because his needed a rebuild, after using his for a about a year…
I don't know why builders cheap out on stairs unless there's no stair manufacturers near by?
Site built stairs are the norm in pretty much all of north america
More long videos free.
I thought 2x4 2 nails 2x6 3 nails 2x8 4 nails 2x10 5 nails 2x12 6 nails no matter the situation??!!
I would never rip a stick using chalk line.
Unless it's perfectly straight..you just cut up firewood. I pinch that base plate or just use the rip guide that comes with the saw. That skate plate I never seen but definitely seems like a nice addition..looks like you can get 24" rip out it.
Lmao. Frozen dendrites.
Dude I get it. I drink so I don't have to use my brain. Shuts that stupid thing off and just work work work. I get so much done that I don't remember, it's like free labor man.
Where is your mask brother ?
Those are def beefy steps
No offense but too much paslode is no good for video. N thats comin from someone who likes em