Vinyl vs CD vs Mp3 (plus stories, of course)
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- čas přidán 26. 02. 2012
- In this video I try to outline how a person's experience of listening to music will completely change, depending on what format it's listened in. Of course, there's some personal anecdotes. Come check out the Vinyl Junkies facebook page for more:
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This guy...This guy knows too well what he's talking about. I love hearing people who care so much about vinyl talking about it
You know it. The artists put the songs in a specific order for a reason. The album was meant to be heard in its entirety, not chopped up. It certainly changes the listening experience.
I got married in 1982, couple of kids, and had stopped buying records as every penny was going to the household. Around 1990, I was intrigued with the CD and started buying music again. The point is that those 8 or 9 years where I was not buying albums, is now just a complete blur to me, compressed memories not being able to differentiate the years. I started buying vinyl records a little over four years ago. The kids are grown on their own and Big Daddy now has disposable income again, I got a ton of new records over here now. I can say this about the "big debate": Records are a lot more fun!
You gave a great talk about vinyl records, I am Irish, so we love all the stories! haha Keep up the good work.
now this guy said it all tons more fun !!
I agree with you 100% I wish I had enough space to start a vinyl collection but that's a plan for the future. Right now I'm working on building up my CD collection and I must say there is a great joy I feel every time I open a new CD case. Just physically having the CD is an experience none other. I can attest the same is for vinyl with a definite magnitude^^
You hit the nail on the head, I can totally relate to it!
It's not just about sound quality, for me it's about experiencing music and memories. E.g., I just played a Deep Purple record (very thick vinyl, Russian Melodia label) I bought for $1 brand new in Warsaw, Poland, just after the iron curtain came down. I remember feeling uncomfortable because I was able to afford it, while the local kids looked and stared. And so each record has it's own story.
I think you hit the nail on the head for me. I basically just started collecting vinyl (I only have 8 records) and I think the reason I want all of these records is because of how raw and in-tune the experience is. You use a lot of your senses when you use a vinyl, you see the art, you feel the record itself, you listen to the warmth and the depth of the sound. It's a very wholesome experience.
I recently started collecting vinyl after realising how much better quality and warmer they sound to CD's, and am now trying to find out more about it all. There is also so much more an aesthetic appeal with the artwork, and the ritual of selecting one to play, there is something about it. So yeah; long live vinyl!
"That's a record collection. This is a box of air, man." Classic. And everything you said about records vs. digital is everything I've been teaching my teenage kids. When they go to swap meets and thrift stores now the first thing they look for is records. Rock on.
Good views dude.
It took a while to realise we're actually in your house. I thought it was a record shop.
Hell yeah! I was born in '67 and share many of the same perspectives on the topic. Thanks for the insight.
Haha, cool picture. Magma!
Those old lps are really the best way to make someone understand what makes wax so special. I'm not sure there's anything I'd rather hear than some old Blues cats kicking it on a Chess recording session. If you can get your hands on some of that, you'll just hear your stereo come alive. Gorgeously recorded and LOUD.
Totally agree man! Buying an album was awesome experience. The art work, the sleeve liner, the pics, and of course the SOUND!!! I love the sound of Vinyl! Keep of the good work love your channel!
Im 17, but unlike the people around my age i dont listen to digital, i have a few cd's yes, but since i was born i was always a die hard Elvis Presley Fan, i have almost all his vinyl records cause i have been collecting them all my life, vinyl will never die, it has character, i do hope others my age listen and watch this video because it makes a very good point..
vinyl will always be my favorite, I love the sound and the "honesty" from a vinyl. one can just hear everything in a vinyl, that one can't on a CD or digital.
"Putting on a record" is exactly why it draws me. With an MP3 you just press play. With a record you put it on. You have to put in a bit of effort, it's a ritual. You are invested in the experience. You're not just hearing music, you're experiencing it.
I remember when I first got into CDs and was able to listen to my favorite track over and over. Which was great, except I started to care less about the song. Instant gratification is nice, but it cheapens the experience.
Great video. Spot on.
Perfect man! You nailed it once again. Your perspective on Music is so much like mine and I`m positive a lot of People agree With me (or rather, you). I am born in 72. Had a cassette period and like you say, grocery stores had records, cassettes and singles back then. I lived in the states from 77-84. Bought my first vinyl record in 1985 in Norway. Ratt and invasion of Your privacy but in the states I got Journey and def Leppard in grocery stores from my parents. My sister was into vinyl already back then because she is Three years older. Remember her begging for shout at the devil and got it from my mom at caldors in 1983. Memories:)... and I still have all this "played to Death" stuff.
downloading out of print records from blogspot sites is precisely how I came to know a lot of the more obscure 60's and 70's artists that I love so much. However, nothing will replace the experience of actually making your way to the record store, digging through dusty bins, and uncovering a gem that you've been looking for for a long time. There's value in the experience of seeking out and finding great old records. It's far preferable than just doing a Google search and downloading the mp3
Unfortunately a record collection may never be plausible for me. That's why I go CDs, but the feeling is mutual. I love reading stories, commentary and seeing photographs from the great jazz sessions of the 50s. I love getting an idea of what the environment was like.
I recorded on exactly one album when I was 18 and was addicted to the experience. Unfortunately it isn't how I make my living, but I still get a nice kick from seeing guys like Marvin Gaye thump his air bass while jamming out to "the" take. It's one way to get my fix.
A third bonus: buying a CD from the recording artist themselves. Recently bought a few Kait Dunton CDs (mind-blowing, I should mention) and got a handwritten note from Kait herself, thanking me for ordering and to enjoy the music. Who does that for mp3s? Just another reason why I love CDs.
I've recently started collecting records. I am really enjoying it so far. CD's have a very disposable feel to them, but I am sure I will still have my records 20 years from now. Plus I am a history junkie, so holding a 30 year old album is just plain cool.
Cheers for the video dude! Enjoying watching it ...and it just highlights even more for the need to support independent record shops.
just turned 18 and started collecting records aswell. It's so much more enjoyable. Yesterday I went to some people to buy some pink floyd records second hand. Before I realised they were telling me, a person they never saw before, stories about their childhood and the emotions with the music. I only have about 35 records right now but i hope to have a giant collection once. CD's aren't durable at all and digital is just a weak excuse for a music collection.
im 16 and started a record collection, only have about 12. been bugging my mom to take me to a record store again (i didnt buy the 12 at once, lol, over a period of three months)
I disagree, I collect CD's and I think they sound great. You can collect any format you want based on your preference. Calling digital "weak" sounds pretty bogus. It all comes down to your preference. I honestly think all this debate over vinyl being a superior format is pretty overrated. The durability depends how well you store and take care of your items.
well, if you have a quality cd player that makes sense. i , dont... i have a blu ray player hooked up to my tv... that plays through my tv speakers. horrible.... i have a turntable hooked up to external computer speakers from klipsch.. pretty good :)
Im only 13 and ive started collecting records and I think it is way more enjoyable because of the light scratching noise throughout the entire song and also of your wanting a specific song having to check the track list and counting the grooves is way better than simply scrolling a menu and pressing play but I only started collecting records recently literally only two days ago and I already have around forty lps most of which was a gift from my grandfather
wow thats awesome. my mom had her records in the garage, and i brought them to my room. she has a whole box of them. ive noticed only used records have surface noise. brand new records dont have surface noise, you would have to listen to it about 20 times to start to hear surface noise. i hate it when i hear pops though. i have 20 of my own records, 2 of them are completely useless because i got them used at a record store and didnt look at them, and at home noticed they were cracked. one looked like someone took a bite out of it lol...so life lesson-when buying used records, always look at the actual record for cracks or scratches. i found them in the dollar bin, and the owner said he doesnt inspect the records in the $1 bin, lol... love my dream theater vinyl (2013)
You are a great speaker and convincer. i am a 14 year old boy and you have just convinced me to go out and get a record player and start my own collection. thank you so much.
No blame placed at all, what you're saying makes sense. The point of Vinyl Junkies is not to put down, but to try and introduce others to amazing music on an amazing format, let you see why we love it so much. The vinyl experience is an amazing experience that alot of the younger generation haven't had a chance to have. We welcome you to come check it out and see if you like it. Thanks for the comment
The visual, as you emphasize, is very important, not just with LP, but also 78s, which I collect, and 45s. The labels, sleeves, even the reverse of single-sided 78s is often a work of art, something to HOLD and BEHOLD. Many thanks for your devotion!
You hit the nail right on the head,when you picked up the zeppelin and kiss albums,it`s all about the stories and tales etc....... that go with them. I still have the very first record I ever purchased,with money I earned myself and I remember what shop it came from and I remember queueing to pay for it with my mother stood beside me,trying to persuade me to buy something else.You just don`t get all that with cd`s or mp3`s.
what was the album
this video is spot-on. i've been collecting and listening to vinyl for a few years now, coming from the internet generation and i'd love to lend some perspective to open ears.
i've got about 12,000 tracks on a hard drive, and about 300 vinyls. the advantage to vinyl is of course the sound, the experience, the interface, the devotion, and the "other" factor of being part of something physical.
the advantage to compressed music is that you can take it with you and experience it however you want.
This is one of my favourite videos ever. It made me subscribe and like the Facebook page. More importantly, it got me into buying vinyl. Just the way you talk about music and records... absolutely beautiful! The wise words of a true music fan!
Cheers man \m/
Man, you just translated my feelings about this. That's why I have my record collection and will never get rid of them. Thanks !
2:55 " That's a record collection....this is a box of air, man". Never have truer words been spoken! Big Up!
Man,what a great video! 'This,is just a box of air!'' LOL! Simply love your first album story...Thanks for putting this video up.
This is spot on and well communicated. I have over 4000 LPs and there is no better way to listen to the tunes. There's something about the tangibility factor of vinyl..touch, see, feel...A completely different experience.
Nice vid, brought to light reasons I still love my vinyl and have started to re-buy my favourite albums on vinyl when a new version come. Brilliant albums bring back brilliant memories. Thanks for sharing
Can't blame them for not recognizing a quality recording if they've never known the difference. We hope to introduce a few of them to what folks like you have known all along: the experience of listening to music on vinyl is pretty damn awesome.
i was born in 94 - past the vinyl generation. but when i was little i got my first ever cd of britney spears and i loved it so much. i listened to it for a hours a day. then my parents gave me an abba cd, which i also listened to over and over. these 2 albums hold so many memories. i appreciate the concept of full albums. i'd rather loose myself in 1 album then jump around through different songs. my dad bought me a turn table and i'm getting a rolling stones vinyl for my birthday. i'm excited.
The portability issue is the reason why I sold off a large part of my vinyl collection during the mid 90's. I could take cd's with me on the bus or in my car and mp3s weren't yet around. Your point is very well taken, which is why I download mp3s for the car and, if I like the record, go out and buy it on vinyl.
True! You don't just listen to music. There is a way, there is a ritual, there is a moment in one's life that is set aside to listen and enjoy the work of art coming out of music through Vinyl's. If people don't understand that, I'd rather show them the door instead of having them in my music room that I hold ever so sacred!
Wow! Great video, man. So many great points were brought up here. I'm a vinyl guy myself. Thanks for the stories!
You are sooooo right !! Love this video !!
Awesome. Things like that get forgotten in the Vinyl/Digital debate. Such a good point about the fact we put it on shuffle and probably often won't know the name of the track! So true. Thanks for that man that will definitely add some ammunition to back my argument with the next time it comes up again in conversation!
Im a 17 year old boy from greece im a metal,rock and roll and blues fan and i swear if i had the money i whould have tons of vinyl. Its a hole other story. And i have another word to describe vinyl its ..erotic.Especialy blues ,u know i wana fell the hole thing like u say
keep these vids coming bro .Peace and love from Greece
Dude, you are 100% spot on with what your saying here. I found myself watching this and nodding in agreement all the way. I don't like CD's, but I really hate ipod's with a massive passion. Ok, they are kinda handy for going down the gym (I don't think they would be pleased if I took my hifi in with me and shoved Led Zepp 2 on, but that WOULD be a story to tell) but on the whole they DO blow. There is no soul with an ipod. I loved listening to you talk on this video. Awesome record collection by the way. Cheers. :)
Spot on.....love the passion brother.
Love your video on why vinyl rocks & everything else sucks! I LOVED going to the music store & spending hours looking at albums, buying my favorites, then going home, sitting down, opening the album & spending hours w/ friends listening to music on the most incredible audio equipment, spendingl our money on the best we could buy. Now this audio equipment like Marantz, Pioneer, TEAC, Akai, MacIntosh, etc is going for more than it costed in the 70s. You're right, every album we bought had a story!
I'm going to buy a turntable and some records now. Thanks for the insights. I grew up with CD's and couldn't put my finger on what changed when the iPod came out, but you put vocalized these difference perfectly. Now on to vinyl..
you hit the nail right on the head. awesome video.
...you said it right man. This is the reason why all my friends wants to hang out in my place it's because of the music collections i have. Still collecting vinyls right now and counting.....
Also I can remember downloading tons of music and getting some really cool versions uploaded by people who recorded it themselves. These are versions you can't buy from the artist or label and I'm glad I found them.
Fabulous, couldn't agree more with your video. Also, thanks for sharing your vinyl reviews.
Rock and Roll Over in the GROCERY store??!?! Mind blown
This is soo spot on it! I can still remember my first record, prince parade, I found an old recordplayer thrown in a garbage can,I fixed it and since then I was hooked, even when everyone was all crazy about cd's I still bought records, since they had more pizzaz and much more, I'm so happy others started to think the same!
I agree with what you're saying completely and I love vinyls. On another note, though, I do remember when I got certain albums on MP3 and how excited I was to be able to actually have this awesome stuff from around the world that I just couldn't access in my home area. I guess most people don't feel the same way.
What I'm loving about recent Vinyl releases and vinyl remasters is that they are releasing them with MP3 codes so that you can enjoy music as an experience at home on vinyl as well as on the go in your MP3 player. Music distributors must keep this trend
you summed it up perfectly, couldn't agree more! I can remember these kind of stories (when, where, why and with whom I first bought or listened to record) bout every single piece of vinyl I own and that's quite a lot. there a just a few cds that had a comparable impact. mp3s, well, forget it...
Great video. I'm a younger dude so I grew up with CDs instead of vinyls, but I have very distinct memories attached to my collection just like you have with your vinyls. Personally I'm quite happy with the size and sound of the CDs, not to mention their portability and the fact you can listen to them through without the disruption of getting up and switching sides, but who knows, you just might've convinced me enough to try and give the vinyl a chance sometime in the future. :)
This guy got it. It's not about the (technical) sound quality - well encoded mp3's sound just as good as a CD and probably even better than a vinyl. But the whole listening experience changed:
After I bought some CDs at a record store with a friend, we went home an I said "Hey let's listen to that album". I put the CD on and just sat down listening. My friend was really surprised by the fact that I didn't do anything else (play PC games, look at some fun websites) but listen to the music. This really saddened me...
I agree with this 100%. I'm 15 now and I just started collecting records within this past year and I have to say I haven't bought a CD or song of iTunes since. Maybe that's because most records now a days come with download codes for the album, but for the most part I find listening to vinyl so much more enjoyable than CDs and mp3s.
Awesome man you have great collection
I wish I was being overly dramatic, but I've worked in this industry long enough to know that things are really that bad right now. Your long posts are welcome, I'm glad you're enjoying our community. Welcome :-)
Great vid man, right on point
the fact a record is tangible object makes it special
Vinyl will never die.
300+ albums and still collecting
A vinyl junkie in the making :-). Welcome, Jake.
You make some great points. I recently got back into vinyl and I completely agree with you. One thing I hate about the cd/digital world is when I read some fan reviews and people don't even list the names of the songs they like on an album. The just say something like "the best songs are tracks 1, 3, 6 , 10, etc"
Beautiful. Now, I'm sticking with my iPod, but the way you explained it was something different. I knew that listening to music has drastically changed (We no longer sit there, only listening to the music), but how you explained that instead of music being only a listening enjoyment, it was a memory.
love your video man! especially at the end with the Kiss Rock N Roll Over album...i remember tracing the cover sooo many times...
@greeno22 I'm glad you liked the vid. My videos are mostly personal anecdotes or music related stories rather than "show and tell". I hope that the format works for others as well, and I encourage anyone who's got stories of their own to either post a video reply or leave a comment. The feeling of community is as important to me as the music, hopefully others will get where I'm coming from and feel a connection to it. Thanks for the input. Oh, and BANZAI RECORDS FOREVER!!!
Great video! The art work and the tactile feel of the vinyl records are priceless. It is also a question of considering one artist and one album at a time. We are gaining some insight on the thoughts of the artist as well as his/her views on life as the LP plays. I also wonder if the vinyl records also have a distinct smell: the olfactory effect of such a record collection can also be quite compelling. Loved your record cave and your enthusiasm. Greetings from Bangladesh!
That was a great video! I totally agree with EVERYTHING you said!
Digital formats can be very convenient to use, but they make the act of listening music, a very cold, fast, and forgettable experience.
Thanks for the kind words.
"And you find yourself in '82 The disco hot spots hold no charm for you"
GOTTA LV IT......
I respect your point of view and I understand how Vinyls are parts of your music experience and how different they are from digital music.But don't blame the people like me that have been born after the 80'. I just didn't have the chance to experience the different supports as you had. Personnally, I can also describe a lot of things I remember when the digital record "In Rainbows" went out. And it was so great to have it with me anywhere, anytime, wich I just couldn't have done with a Vinyl.
Wow, man I liked everything about what everything you said, good stuff.
You rock man. I agree 100 percent. I just wish I wasnt so stupid when I was younger and got rid of all my records.
Nice collection man! I'm only 22 but i know someday my collection will be as vast as yours! I make music as well. Ive bounced my tracks to mp3 before and lost entire string tracks. Literally losing 1's and 0's. Vinyl will never die.
Great video mate. This is proper sad, but a huge thrill for me is getting a new vinyl out of the sleeve and discovering its coloured. High Violet by The National almost gave me a heart attack when I saw it for the first time.
Preach on brother! You nailed it.
That Ornette Coleman in the background is awsome!
Good Video!
Excellent points. I'm relatively new to the vinyl scene. About a year or so ago, I dug the few records out of storage that my dad held onto and I've been picking up albums here and there at garage sales and thrift shops. I hope to one day have a collection like that.
Great video.
Yeah CubeRepublic, I'd agree with your statement about the experience being a different one. If a portable FLAC player existed it would certainly make a difference and would certainly legitimize the idea of purchasing digital music. However, I'd still choose vinyl for all the reasons outlined in the vid. Thanks for the comment
Absolute Awesome Achieved
Anyone who isn't familiar with vinyl should see this! Compared to vinyl mp3 in general and most cd's sound flat - to me that's the most convincing aspect.
Robert
Thanks man, checking it out now.
I just started collecting Vinyl myself. I've had the Beatles on vinyl and bought myself a record player and just fell in love.
Spot-on, bro. Kudos!
I love 60´s bands and my dad knows it, i was always telling him how cool eric clapton was aling with the doors, beatles and etc.... He went to paris on a working trip and when he got back he got me L.A woman by the doors, Neil young (self titled), and August another ticket by eric clapton! I didnt like august that much but L.A woman by the doors felt godlike to me. It has "Bremon Laurence Fev 78" written in the back on the top. And i didnt even know another ticket by clapton. Its an awesome Blues album, i love it. One of my favourites! You can take it off the cover and it has kind of a second cover with pictures and names the artists eric worked with along with him, it smells great... old! Also, it was really mind blowing to get the first solo album by Neil Young with that amazing cover, you can open it and see this awesome picture of Neil and read some stuff... Its great. Vinyl wins!
Love this video
I love my vinyl, almost every album reminds me of a time and place and where it bought it. I have every album I ever bought from 1970 to present. Our local family run department store had a pharmacy on the lower level that also sold radios and records. I just listened to Sweet "Desolation Boulevard" that I purchased at that store almost 45 years ago.
Hey you couldn't have said it better. I fell inlove with Vinyls. The music is warm and just feels alive compared to a cd or mp3s. I love just sitting back in bed relaxing taking in all the music and not keeping myself busy with a million things. It has a completely different vibe to it. I just can't get into all the mp3's. I love picking up some old records at this mom and pop shop spending a couple dollars a peace getting a piece of history , nice art work just amazing.
I agree with you man. I love vinyl, cds, blu-rays and minidiscs...yes the Sony format from 1992. I love them and i play them and record on them today!
You made a lot of excellent points.we did listen to music with a lot different.And in my neighborhood, we would often get together to listen to music together.if someone got a new album,we would get together and listen to it.the whole experience was much more communal.
I have several hundred CDs .I recently sold my earthshaking home theater system and have gone back to good ol stereo,powering up a pair of Magnaplanars with a muscular 40 year old Tandberg receiver. I have decided to get back into vinyl as well.It will be interesting to see how different the wife and i respond to it after years of CDs and mp3s. one thing for sure...I'm finding it much harder deciding on a turntable and Cartridge than i did on a CD player!
Thanks for the words of wisdom. I never saw it from this perspective.
Awesome, enjoy your 8 records and thanks for sharing. I have a feeling you'll be buying more :-)
My Dad passed away last year and now i inherited his house, causing me to sort out lots stuff in the house, and only recently i opened up that cupboard up. Discovering my old albums. I stll had my old Rega planar 2 turntable but the Marantz amp i used with it had long gone. So invested in a Cheap second hand amp a NAD 3020, its years old but sounds great. I took a gamble and bought 75 albums on ebay, Luckily all work fine ,very happy only one i alredy had. Bonus. happy days
Yes my brother! I have my vinyl from 30 years ago...and my first album was a Christmas Jazz record (from 1974). Still have it and still listen to it every year! It's my rock and it still gets me off. Thing is vinyl is NOT dead. Got the new Black Sabbath on vinyl (behemoth heavy-duty, two tracks per side vinyl!) And some new DEVO "punk" releases 3 LP set. Gary Numan's new album is coming out this month and it's also on vinyl. The Renaissance is here, vinyl is back!
awesome video man! your so right
Thing is, I'm not really trying to convince anyone of anything, which is maybe why the vid seems to be connecting with folks. I'm trying to share my passion for vinyl records with others by expressing what I think makes it such an amazing experience. I feel that the "amazing" comes from many different sources, many of which actually have nothing to do with the superior sound quality. There's a very human element to collecting vinyl which I believe transcends all the "great sound" argument
I agree with everything said in this video. I add that vinyl has the potential to sound better than any digital format (including .flac files -- although some .flac files are very good), and the potential to blow the sound quality doors off of any .mp3 or CD / .wav file. However, most vinyl pressings suck (which is one of the reasons why so many people think digital is superior). The reasons for the vast majority of vinyl pressings having sub-par sound quality are numerous. But when you get a pressing that is done right (and often it will be only 1 of the 2 sides), then it only takes 2nd place to the master tapes (yes, reel-to-reel tapes made with tube gear -- you like the Beatles on CD? It all came off of tapes -- so imagine how amazing the hard-to-find quality pressings sound).
Unfortunately, to get vinyl to sound great, you need a quality record cleaner, a professionally set-up turntable (there's a lot that goes into accurate playback), deep pockets for quality components, and lots of time to find those elusive quality pressings. But when it all comes together, the experience is amazing. That is when digital is set aside to be listened to only for convenience. I have heard such set-ups at high-end audio stores (and even many stores do not properly set-up their equipment). Cheers!
Outstanding!!
Thanks dude. Old vid.
I saw that! Many are unaware of the correct way to remove an LP from its sleeve, or can't be bothered. Sliding its surface across the sleeve while pawing it simultaneously, a double whammy! I can safely say that as an avid collector for over 40 years, I don't own any LP's that make these pops & ticks many elude to when referring to the positive aspects & sentiments surrounding the playing of vinyl. Otherwise the junkie made a few valid points. My 1st LP was bought from a shopping cart seat too!
I agree in the sound and sentimentality aspect. There's not really a "middle man" as I call it. The record comes from the grooves and it's literally just amplified from there. It's pure. And I consider music a tasty treat, and you always eat with your eyes first so it's nice to have a nice big booklet and big artwork to really indulge. It's not all 1's and 0's that are digitally converted into sounds made my magnets. But for convenience, iPods are definitely better. It's just up to the listener. More casual folks will prefer the easily obtained stuff that is portable whereas music aficionados will prefer the tangible, pure, records.