That relay gets a ground (ignition neg [-]) switched at the coil 85 from the ignition, I took a feed from a positive (12V+) in the fuse box and converted that to NEG (-) via a mini relay. So glad that now you understand. @@mav3ric100
Helpful video mate I'm having an issue with steering lock malfunction. Had all the usual fixes done ism and steering lock unit and narrowed it down to a wiring issue. Any tips? Fault is intermittent and tech 2 says its a fault with the cim wiring circuit
Very thorough and informative presentation of Tech 2 work in action. I'm sure it made for a very secure car in the day but starts to be a real pain on old cars. Currently my problem is an unreliable Ignition switch which switches ignition on but whether it cranks is a lottery . I have changed the switch module a couple of times but keep getting this issue erratically. Is it a common problem for SAAB's?
Hi Dave , Yes get lots of can problems on them, check your wiring on top of the gearbox bell housing, really common place to get wiring corrosion. Thank Rick
Hi fantastic video i have a 2006 Saab 93 vector it was playing up after we put fuel in i was told its the ECM and have to get a new refurbished one, we haven't got one as yet i took battery out and charged it for a week i put it back in but now when i turn the key there is nothing dash lights work ect it comes up traction control failure i checked the yellow wire that goes to the starter motor when the key is turned there is no voltage any help would be appreciated
@@halemotors4084 Hi i sent the ecm off to get a refurbished one but they couldnt get data off my old one so had to take car to them they put a refurbished one on only to get half way home the engine light come back on so rang them they said they didn't programe it properly so i sent the ecm back so they can do it properly.
Excellent tutorial. Well done. Does anyone know by any chance why my Saab 9-3 2003 automatic car refuses to start. The key fob goes in, it turns, no error message on screen, but as soon as I put the key fob in the ignition, the steering wheel normally automatically unlocks but in this case it doesn't unlock at all and the car tries to start by turning the engine over, but but nothing happens. Any ideas as it is driving me crazy. If only I had an error message then it might possibly help. This happened all of a sudden. Please help if possible. I love my Saab and I cannot part with it.
--- I have a Saab 9-3, model year 2003, version 2. When I park the car and leave it for 8-10 hours, it won't start in the morning. All the electronics work (like the radio and lights), but the engine doesn't get power to start. To get the car running, I open the hood and connect a cable from the starter relay to the negative terminal on the battery while the ignition is on. The car then starts immediately. After this, I can start the car normally with the key until I leave it again for several hours, and the problem occurs again. Does anyone know what the problem might be!?
Hi Adam, you'll need diagnostics on it. You can turn the key when you go into diagnostics, Forced ignition release is the title. When you run a global scan it will tell you what's blocking the key. Thanks Rick
I've been chasing a fault on my 57 plate 9-3 Aero Convertible 6 speed manual for 18 months. To start with it was intermittent and only happened in wet weather. Messages while driving, stability control, traction control, ABS all fail, car still drives fine, after a few minutes the speedo and rev counter bounce up and down like crazy. This is a pretty long story so, I'm going to stop here, you've given me a few extra areas to check, . Can I ask where you are, I'm up in Cumbria on the west coast. I failed to get it running last summer and if I fail again, I'm going to ask if you will look at it, whatever it costs to transport I don't care I just want this car running. There's lots of info from my Tech II, but it's too long a story to type here, can I contact you via email?
@@halemotors4084 update on this. One of many things I didn't mention initially was that I had replaced the engine management loom and that didn't help. Even though on the old loom a wire providing 12v to the ECU had corroded and burnt out, completely broken. Made no bloody sense at all why changing the loom didn't fix it. Here I go again around in circles.. Ultimately it turnout that when that wire had failed it must have drawn a lot of current, there was no continuity from the connection on the bottom of the fuse box to anywhere, the track on part of the PCB had evaporated. Made a bridge bottom to top through an appropriate fuse and she's been purring for just over 14 months now.
THE SAAB WISPERA doing his thing thanks for posting 👍
Views don't make sense this is one of the most helpful videos on this subject around..Thankful for you Bro
Thank you,sorry it didnt go into more detail
Rick
@@halemotors4084 Was perfect enough to get me back on the road..Thanks So Much
@@CJFilms1001 Glad to of helped, wasn't the most descriptive video !
Good video.
Had exactly the same problem with a Vaux Zafira recently, just relayed an ignition live to give it an earth (ground).
Yes ,great idea, thanks for watching
Can you explain how you did this please? Not an electrician.
That relay gets a ground (ignition neg [-]) switched at the coil 85 from the ignition, I took a feed from a positive (12V+) in the fuse box and converted that to NEG (-) via a mini relay. So glad that now you understand. @@mav3ric100
Helpful video mate I'm having an issue with steering lock malfunction. Had all the usual fixes done ism and steering lock unit and narrowed it down to a wiring issue. Any tips? Fault is intermittent and tech 2 says its a fault with the cim wiring circuit
Hi Adam
OOOh im not sure without seeing that one, i did once have a Cim unit show this fault but wouldn't want to guarantee it. Sorry mate
Very thorough and informative presentation of Tech 2 work in action. I'm sure it made for a very secure car in the day but starts to be a real pain on old cars. Currently my problem is an unreliable Ignition switch which switches ignition on but whether it cranks is a lottery . I have changed the switch module a couple of times but keep getting this issue erratically. Is it a common problem for SAAB's?
Hi Dave , Yes get lots of can problems on them, check your wiring on top of the gearbox bell housing, really common place to get wiring corrosion. Thank Rick
Hi fantastic video i have a 2006 Saab 93 vector it was playing up after we put fuel in i was told its the ECM and have to get a new refurbished one, we haven't got one as yet i took battery out and charged it for a week i put it back in but now when i turn the key there is nothing dash lights work ect it comes up traction control failure i checked the yellow wire that goes to the starter motor when the key is turned there is no voltage any help would be appreciated
Hi sorry for late reply, how did you go on?
Thanks Rick
@@halemotors4084 Hi i sent the ecm off to get a refurbished one but they couldnt get data off my old one so had to take car to them they put a refurbished one on only to get half way home the engine light come back on so rang them they said they didn't programe it properly so i sent the ecm back so they can do it properly.
Oh dear. Good luck
Excellent tutorial. Well done.
Does anyone know by any chance why my Saab 9-3 2003 automatic car refuses to start. The key fob goes in, it turns, no error message on screen, but as soon as I put the key fob in the ignition, the steering wheel normally automatically unlocks but in this case it doesn't unlock at all and the car tries to start by turning the engine over, but but nothing happens. Any ideas as it is driving me crazy. If only I had an error message then it might possibly help. This happened all of a sudden.
Please help if possible. I love my Saab and I cannot part with it.
Do you have access to tech 2?
If youve had the batter diconected the steering column lock doesnt work until the car has been driven over 6 km /hr.
Hi, yes you've got a Can fault. Where abouts are you?
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I have a Saab 9-3, model year 2003, version 2. When I park the car and leave it for 8-10 hours, it won't start in the morning. All the electronics work (like the radio and lights), but the engine doesn't get power to start.
To get the car running, I open the hood and connect a cable from the starter relay to the negative terminal on the battery while the ignition is on. The car then starts immediately. After this, I can start the car normally with the key until I leave it again for several hours, and the problem occurs again.
Does anyone know what the problem might be!?
Is it Petrol or Diesel?
What if the key won’t turn at all and steering wheel won’t unlock already changed battery in fob
Hi Adam, you'll need diagnostics on it.
You can turn the key when you go into diagnostics, Forced ignition release is the title.
When you run a global scan it will tell you what's blocking the key.
Thanks Rick
Tech 2 is a dream on this fault
what area are you in
Good morning.
In Manchester .Stockport.
Thanks Rick
@@halemotors4084 that red relay. my saab doesn't have one don't think it ever did but not sure but is it necessary?
@@NoCutCardz Is yours a petrol?
@@halemotors4084 yes if that means regular Gas
Yes its different o a Gas one.@@NoCutCardz
I've been chasing a fault on my 57 plate 9-3 Aero Convertible 6 speed manual for 18 months.
To start with it was intermittent and only happened in wet weather.
Messages while driving, stability control, traction control, ABS all fail, car still drives fine, after a few minutes the speedo and rev counter bounce up and down like crazy.
This is a pretty long story so, I'm going to stop here, you've given me a few extra areas to check, .
Can I ask where you are, I'm up in Cumbria on the west coast.
I failed to get it running last summer and if I fail again, I'm going to ask if you will look at it, whatever it costs to transport I don't care I just want this car running.
There's lots of info from my Tech II, but it's too long a story to type here, can I contact you via email?
Yes feel free, richardbenson99@btinternet.com
Thanks Rick
Bad abs module. Very common
@@halemotors4084 update on this.
One of many things I didn't mention initially was that I had replaced the engine management loom and that didn't help.
Even though on the old loom a wire providing 12v to the ECU had corroded and burnt out, completely broken.
Made no bloody sense at all why changing the loom didn't fix it.
Here I go again around in circles..
Ultimately it turnout that when that wire had failed it must have drawn a lot of current, there was no continuity from the connection on the bottom of the fuse box to anywhere, the track on part of the PCB had evaporated.
Made a bridge bottom to top through an appropriate fuse and she's been purring for just over 14 months now.
Hi Gordon,
Yes email me richardbenson99@btinternet.com
We are based in Stockport ,Manchester.
Thank you Rick@@GordonBenny