The tactics of Michael is typical of most of the popular leaders of Charismatic movements which is don't interact with anyone challenging what your beliefs or what you teach
Excellent. Thank you for standing against this utter nonsense. These false teachers appeal to the willingly blind; turning men into wolves or spiritual wimps.
Why does this channel never cite its sources fully? It tends to dampen your credibility. Who is Tony A? Where's a link to his blog? This voice recording sounds like AI, and a robotic reading of a printed text. There's nothing here for us to check the original blog ourselves. And yet your description claims "a large library" was created by Tony A. But we can't find that library ourselves?What gives? This puts some of your content in the realm of gossip.
@@nicodemosanchez9112 it's hard to research when "Tony A." is all o have to search on Google. Since hush-hush wants to publish, surely they can give their source. It's high school English paper 101. Give the 5 Ws: who, what where when, why and how.
@@nicodemosanchez9112 Seems silly to do that and start from scratch when clearly hush hush has the dope in their hands already. It's really a simple matter of just giving the link for their info. Not rocket science. They are either being sloppy, don't care, or really have no direct handle on the info. When you share info publicly the burden is on you to show your sources not your audience. Otherwise, it's sensationalism and click bait. I actually feel that hush hush is largely authentic in it's info but If they want to help the body of Christ, they need to man up and that isn't really too much to ask. I tried with what key words are to be found in the description and nothing else helpful comes up in research. This is not a scavenger hunt dear to see who's got the best research skills, like a teacher giving homework. We aren't children.
Bravo, Tony A. ( whoever you are) When and if you can, I would love a link to his blog or channel. That letter was so well stated and full of both integrity and grace.
Where is your link to the website of the man who wrote this open letter to Dr. Brown? We don’t even know his name or name of his ministry. If you’re going to put up videos like this please be decent enough to provide the links, the proofs. :)
Many people are deceived and take up for evil men who are wolves in sheep's clothing! It is so sad that many people will follow a man instead of seeking Jesus. They teach another gospel and Jesus. I pray that their eyes will be opened and that they will come away from the false teachers and return to God and His Word. It is hard to believe that people take up for him when sexual corruption is exposed. Jesus wants justice for victims!
Did ever think about this focus on the prophetic has taken off? All of sudden like! Wonder who started to “conjure” up this explosion of prophets??? Seems everyone is a prophet and people want prophesies instead of turning to their bibles! BTW I’m sure if you want to be a prophet you can become one for a Fee! I stopped buying into this garbage a long time ago!
This current movement started with C. Peter Wagner over 25 years ago and is called the New Apostolic Reformation (coined by Wagner himself, and studied by Holly Pivec and Doug Geivett, several books). The NAR is actually denied by those who are in it and by Dr Brown himself. But once you've read about the common theological beliefs these charismatic networks share, you can't unsee it. It's all unbiblical. I lived through this in a charismatic community over 25 years ago and remember when they actually began to explain "God doing a new thing" and "Restoring apostles and prophets" to the church model. I was already feeling grieved at unbiblical concepts in the church as I read my Bible and noticing the conflict with Scripture. God soon led me out of that movement without me fully realizing till recent years what I escaped.
@@KristiLEvans1 Also the more recent decades, started with C. Peter Wagner in the 90s who coined the term New Apostolic Reformation (NAR), a movement heralded to bring "prophets and apostles" into governing authority in the church. Look up books by Holly Pivec and Doug Geivett. Also many good CZcams interviews they have done on different channels. And yes though Wagner probably didn't realize, it also has roots in Latter Rain theology.
@@KristiLEvans1 I knew he was a Fuller Prof, but not sure how that connection shows he knew about Latter Rain, but I trust you have more info than I. The fact he was researching church mission history maybe caused him to know about Latter Rain. As for me I was in the charismatic movement 25 years ago and God led me out. Just when the talk about "God's new move" about "restoring Apostles and prophets" was hitting our church. I was reading my Bible and things didn't add up. Back then I didn't know what we know now, that occult teaching would be poisoning the charismatic movement until it went globally. Trump also met Paula White sometime thereafter and wiggled his way into particularly the "prophetic" branch of the "Evangelical" church. Kim Clement knew Paula White and preached at her church. He falsely prophesied her church financial troubles would divinely clear up. Instead, they went bankrupt. Clement later gave a (somewhat incoherent) prophecy that Trump would be president. Then Clement died (fairly young) of some sickness. Ever since the marriage of the prophetic movement and Trump has grown into a cult that is commensurate with occult involvement. In 2020 over 20 "prophets" declared he would win. He now endorses a video equating himself with the "Good Shepherd who will never leave you nor forsake you." Paula White posted the video on her Twitter account. Neither she nor Trump has never denounced the blasphemy. If that's not apostasy, I don't know what is.
I recently watched a video in which Rick Joyner said it's ok to take the Mark of the Beast. I'm from a charismatic tradition, and I'm not attacking this, but things like this are alarming, especially as what Joyner said could influence the choices of 'baby' or immature christians regarding the Mark of the Beast, when the time comes. Something is very wrong. Something needs to happen. 🚨🚨🚨
The blind can't lead the blind.....it appears that to be restored he will have to go outside of the group he has idolized, find a truly spiritual person to reestablish him in the truth gospel. But that would require humbling himself to much for what? Admitting that the simple gospel is what God has chosen to use to save people and not the clever sophistication s that men come up with? " in vain do they worship Me, teaching for doctrine the commandments of men (rejecting the Word of God for substituted man made teachings)
Where is the love in this appeal to Dr Brown and friends? I kept listening for it. I didn’t hear love or humility in it. I heard a tone of voice expressing condescension and accusation. When we go to a brother who is “overtaken in a fault” we are told to do it “in an attitude of love, considering [that we, too, might be tempted]. If “Without love, I am nothing,” then without love my words are also nothing, no matter how true they might be. Listening to this person, I heard words spoken with arrogance from a spirit “puffed up” with his own knowledge. Maybe his reason for confronting Dr. Brown was indeed for love’s sake in an attempt to turn wrong to right. But I didn’t hear love anywhere. For months now with the issue of Mike Bickle’s sins, it seems we have moved from confrontation to infighting among the Church and between leaders of the church. I keep asking Jesus, “Where is the love, Lord? Will your people ever learn to love each other the way You love us? When will we stop wanting to stone each other? Will we ever stoop down and write in the sand, silently? When will we say, “Neither do I condemn you”? Mike will repent. The Spirit of God will convict and lead him to repentance. There are people across the world who are praying for it. And the Lord will restore his soul. He has hurt and damaged people and he knows it. God doesn’t allow His own to go on in our sin. If we don’t respond to His conviction, He allows our sins to be revealed. That has been done with Mike. Why do we keep trying to get him to do it our way in our time? The women have courageously come forth. The whole world knows the truth. God has all of it in his hands. We are called to be a house of prayer which does not mean we meet in houses to pray. It means our way is the way of prayer. God answers in His own way and time. Let’s take up our weapons and turn them against the enemy here. Mike Bickle is not the enemy. The enemy is the enemy.
Yea. Man. I never followed Bickle. But erroneous teachings should noy be taken as lightly as the church has taken it in recent history. "We may disagree, but we are still brothera in Christ." Is used far too frequent. Where its more so tolerance than grace.
I am anti-cessationalist, but as long as heresy is tolerated in the charismatic movement there are going to be people complaining long and loud about it and they should do so
Your understanding of sola scriptora can’t be wright. The scripture is more that a witness of how YHWH has operated but is a witness of how He operates today. Further more the scripture is a witness of The Word Of God and does not ever make that claim of its self.
I can almost guarantee you that you, and every Christian watching your video has spent more time watching and listening to this kind of crap than they have reading their Bible or praying in months if not years. Tell me I’m wrong.
Quite the contrary. I pray and read my Bible every day. We must be like the Bereans and compare what any teacher or pastor says to the scriptures. The angry, hostile tone of people who defend false teachers is quite telling...
Such rag reporting dressed up to appear respectful and coached in language to impress as discerning, but indeed ignorantly playing from the same band wagon as the demons of division and disgust. Christ is not favorably impressed with the carnal charades being pompously passed off as being righteousness, regeneration or restoration for either side of the divide. Fix your eyes on Jesus; then and only then, will you see Him as He really is, see yourself as He really sees you, and see others as He really sees them. Sumballo
@@Shulamitefire thanks but i’ll pass on anything related to fire from God, especially considering that the overwhelming context is that fire is His judgement.
The tactics of Michael is typical of most of the popular leaders of Charismatic movements which is don't interact with anyone challenging what your beliefs or what you teach
Well said these guys were never prophets false teachers
Excellent. Thank you for standing against this utter nonsense. These false teachers appeal to the willingly blind; turning men into wolves or spiritual wimps.
Exactly true! Many many servants of God has tried warn them.
This is well said. But there is no reasoning with Mike Bickle. He is a lost soul.
Why does this channel never cite its sources fully? It tends to dampen your credibility. Who is Tony A? Where's a link to his blog? This voice recording sounds like AI, and a robotic reading of a printed text. There's nothing here for us to check the original blog ourselves. And yet your description claims "a large library" was created by Tony A. But we can't find that library ourselves?What gives? This puts some of your content in the realm of gossip.
open you channel, do your own research and create content outside the realm of gossip. You are free to do what you wish HushHush should do.
@@nicodemosanchez9112 it's hard to research when "Tony A." is all o have to search on Google. Since hush-hush wants to publish, surely they can give their source. It's high school English paper 101. Give the 5 Ws: who, what where when, why and how.
@@nicodemosanchez9112 Seems silly to do that and start from scratch when clearly hush hush has the dope in their hands already. It's really a simple matter of just giving the link for their info. Not rocket science. They are either being sloppy, don't care, or really have no direct handle on the info. When you share info publicly the burden is on you to show your sources not your audience. Otherwise, it's sensationalism and click bait. I actually feel that hush hush is largely authentic in it's info but If they want to help the body of Christ, they need to man up and that isn't really too much to ask. I tried with what key words are to be found in the description and nothing else helpful comes up in research. This is not a scavenger hunt dear to see who's got the best research skills, like a teacher giving homework. We aren't children.
This is what happens where one or two aspects of Jesus’ teaching gets exalted above all others.
Bible twisting or scripture twisters….
Thank you for reproving untruthful works of darkness.
Bravo, Tony A. ( whoever you are)
When and if you can, I would love a link to his blog or channel. That letter was so well stated and full of both integrity and grace.
Where is your link to the website of the man who wrote this open letter to Dr. Brown? We don’t even know his name or name of his ministry. If you’re going to put up videos like this please be decent enough to provide the links, the proofs. :)
very well constructed
Many people are deceived and take up for evil men who are wolves in sheep's clothing! It is so sad that many people will follow a man instead of seeking Jesus. They teach another gospel and Jesus. I pray that their eyes will be opened and that they will come away from the false teachers and return to God and His Word. It is hard to believe that people take up for him when sexual corruption is exposed. Jesus wants justice for victims!
Narcissists protect narcissists
Did ever think about this focus on the prophetic has taken off? All of sudden like! Wonder who started to “conjure” up this explosion of prophets??? Seems everyone is a prophet and people want prophesies instead of turning to their bibles! BTW I’m sure if you want to be a prophet you can become one for a Fee! I stopped buying into this garbage a long time ago!
It’s latter rain theology. 1948. It crops up periodically because it’s a powerful vehicle to get money and adulation
This current movement started with C. Peter Wagner over 25 years ago and is called the New Apostolic Reformation (coined by Wagner himself, and studied by Holly Pivec and Doug Geivett, several books). The NAR is actually denied by those who are in it and by Dr Brown himself. But once you've read about the common theological beliefs these charismatic networks share, you can't unsee it. It's all unbiblical. I lived through this in a charismatic community over 25 years ago and remember when they actually began to explain "God doing a new thing" and "Restoring apostles and prophets" to the church model. I was already feeling grieved at unbiblical concepts in the church as I read my Bible and noticing the conflict with Scripture. God soon led me out of that movement without me fully realizing till recent years what I escaped.
@@KristiLEvans1 Also the more recent decades, started with C. Peter Wagner in the 90s who coined the term New Apostolic Reformation (NAR), a movement heralded to bring "prophets and apostles" into governing authority in the church. Look up books by Holly Pivec and Doug Geivett. Also many good CZcams interviews they have done on different channels. And yes though Wagner probably didn't realize, it also has roots in Latter Rain theology.
@@Butterfly-truth oh, Wagner knew. He was a professor at Fuller.
@@KristiLEvans1 I knew he was a Fuller Prof, but not sure how that connection shows he knew about Latter Rain, but I trust you have more info than I. The fact he was researching church mission history maybe caused him to know about Latter Rain. As for me I was in the charismatic movement 25 years ago and God led me out. Just when the talk about "God's new move" about "restoring Apostles and prophets" was hitting our church. I was reading my Bible and things didn't add up. Back then I didn't know what we know now, that occult teaching would be poisoning the charismatic movement until it went globally. Trump also met Paula White sometime thereafter and wiggled his way into particularly the "prophetic" branch of the "Evangelical" church. Kim Clement knew Paula White and preached at her church. He falsely prophesied her church financial troubles would divinely clear up. Instead, they went bankrupt. Clement later gave a (somewhat incoherent) prophecy that Trump would be president. Then Clement died (fairly young) of some sickness. Ever since the marriage of the prophetic movement and Trump has grown into a cult that is commensurate with occult involvement. In 2020 over 20 "prophets" declared he would win. He now endorses a video equating himself with the "Good Shepherd who will never leave you nor forsake you." Paula White posted the video on her Twitter account. Neither she nor Trump has never denounced the blasphemy. If that's not apostasy, I don't know what is.
So then, read the page-turner novel “Where Do We Go Now, LORD? - Burke. Explains much. Very much. Enjoy!
What is your last name, Tony? Thank you for your reply.
Interesting.
Is there a link for this information from Tony A. and Dr. Michael Brown?
I found this - seems to it almost word for word: Design of Providence Blogspot.com, older posts.
Hush Hush is not reliable as citations are easy to do. This is likely true, but with no sources we cannot trust it.
I recently watched a video in which Rick Joyner said it's ok to take the Mark of the Beast.
I'm from a charismatic tradition, and I'm not attacking this, but things like this are alarming, especially as what Joyner said could influence the choices of 'baby' or immature christians regarding the Mark of the Beast, when the time comes. Something is very wrong. Something needs to happen. 🚨🚨🚨
Great Point : hiding behind false Christian Grace! When Grace is abused!!!!!!
Opportunistic
The blind can't lead the blind.....it appears that to be restored he will have to go outside of the group he has idolized, find a truly spiritual person to reestablish him in the truth gospel. But that would require humbling himself to much for what? Admitting that the simple gospel is what God has chosen to use to save people and not the clever sophistication s that men come up with? " in vain do they worship Me, teaching for doctrine the commandments of men (rejecting the Word of God for substituted man made teachings)
Where is the love in this appeal to Dr Brown and friends? I kept listening for it. I didn’t hear love or humility in it. I heard a tone of voice expressing condescension and accusation. When we go to a brother who is “overtaken in a fault” we are told to do it “in an attitude of love, considering [that we, too, might be tempted]. If “Without love, I am nothing,” then without love my words are also nothing, no matter how true they might be. Listening to this person, I heard words spoken with arrogance from a spirit “puffed up” with his own knowledge. Maybe his reason for confronting Dr. Brown was indeed for love’s sake in an attempt to turn wrong to right. But I didn’t hear love anywhere. For months now with the issue of Mike Bickle’s sins, it seems we have moved from confrontation to infighting among the Church and between leaders of the church. I keep asking Jesus, “Where is the love, Lord? Will your people ever learn to love each other the way You love us? When will we stop wanting to stone each other? Will we ever stoop down and write in the sand, silently? When will we say, “Neither do I condemn you”? Mike will repent. The Spirit of God will convict and lead him to repentance. There are people across the world who are praying for it. And the Lord will restore his soul. He has hurt and damaged people and he knows it. God doesn’t allow His own to go on in our sin. If we don’t respond to His conviction, He allows our sins to be revealed. That has been done with Mike. Why do we keep trying to get him to do it our way in our time? The women have courageously come forth. The whole world knows the truth. God has all of it in his hands. We are called to be a house of prayer which does not mean we meet in houses to pray. It means our way is the way of prayer. God answers in His own way and time. Let’s take up our weapons and turn them against the enemy here. Mike Bickle is not the enemy. The enemy is the enemy.
The LORD disciplines those He loves. Discipline according to Scripture is love.
B.S
Yea. Man. I never followed Bickle. But erroneous teachings should noy be taken as lightly as the church has taken it in recent history.
"We may disagree, but we are still brothera in Christ." Is used far too frequent. Where its more so tolerance than grace.
I suppose you consider this video as “service to the body of Christ.” Right?
This is an argument over cessationism. I'm no fan of heresy hunters.
Are you a fan of your Dr hunting for cancer in your body?
I am anti-cessationalist, but as long as heresy is tolerated in the charismatic movement there are going to be people complaining long and loud about it and they should do so
Your understanding of sola scriptora can’t be wright. The scripture is more that a witness of how YHWH has operated but is a witness of how He operates today. Further more the scripture is a witness of The Word Of God and does not ever make that claim of its self.
Sola scriptura, is unbiblical and heretical.
I can almost guarantee you that you, and every Christian watching your video has spent more time watching and listening to this kind of crap than they have reading their Bible or praying in months if not years. Tell me I’m wrong.
Quite the contrary. I pray and read my Bible every day. We must be like the Bereans and compare what any teacher or pastor says to the scriptures.
The angry, hostile tone of people who defend false teachers is quite telling...
Your wrong.
Your wrong.
You are wrong lol
you’re wrong.
Such rag reporting dressed up to appear respectful and coached in language to impress as discerning, but indeed ignorantly playing from the same band wagon as the demons of division and disgust. Christ is not favorably impressed with the carnal charades being pompously passed off as being righteousness, regeneration or restoration for either side of the divide. Fix your eyes on Jesus; then and only then, will you see Him as He really is, see yourself as He really sees you, and see others as He really sees them. Sumballo
being polysyllabic doesn’t help your position.
@@kevink9938 Burning blessings of Jesus' beauty in your being and every intimate blessing of affection from His holy heart as King of heaven.
@@Shulamitefire
thanks but i’ll pass on anything related to fire from God, especially considering that the overwhelming context is that fire is His judgement.