I am a run and gun doco guy working in the humanitarian space - Africa, Middle East etc - mainly for RedR Australia. I also have an XC10 which is just awesome as I look just like a tourist...lol. But the C200 is also awesome. The two cameras work really well together. Thanks again. I love your work and really appreciate the sharing of your experience. Useful info from someone with real world experience. Cheers.
Been following you for quite a bit now, since your first C200 vid. Have really taken advantage of your videos so, the least I can do now is show my support via your luts. And of course, I also get some luts haha. I will be using them soon since I am currently renting the C200. Also, I plan to watch your movie on Amazon really soon. Keep up the good work my friend!
Hello, if possible, it would be very interesting to see a more advanced color grading workflow with the C200 footage, with HSL, power windows, tracking, to see how far the Canon Raw Light footage can be stretched. Also interesting to hear your opinion on the quality of sound via cameras XML, as compared to a double system recording. How is the quality? Does the fan make a lot of noise if mic is mounted to camera? Thank you for your work.
Just bought the C200 because I saw your videos. Sorry, I didn't use your link in the description. I'm going to buy your lots. I bought the Tamron 24-70 2.8 and 70-200 2.8 for my C100. Worked perfectly. BUT!!! not on the C200. HAVE YOU HEARD ANYTHING about firmware updates or hack? Thank you for this great channel.
Thanks for the video! I keep meaning to learn Resolve (and color grading in general) but I only do very basic video work occasionally and usually only shooting my music gear) so I keep on using Sony Vegas to get OK results quickly since I'm familiar with it after nearly 10 years of using the product line . (I'm using a C100 MkI to a Ninja Blade and recording DNxHD files)
The Vegas product line changed hands, from Sony to Magix which is fine, but they implemented internet connection authorization (like monthly I think) which doesn't work for me since I keep my DAW/NLE computer disconnected from the internet and any network. So I'm still on the last version of Vegas Pro Sony put out but I think at some point as technologies change I'll want to upgrade to more modern NLE software . And yes, I'd love to get into a C200, but I don't have the funds right now. ;-)
Another great vid! Thank you. So you'll really go through all the raw footage, grade it first, and then export to edit? What if you need to change a look or you end up not liking it when you get to the edit? Do you save the RAW files as well? I'm still figuring out a workflow I like best, I hate round tripping but seems least destructive at this point. I'm going to be sharing some of my finds on c200 soon too via my channel. Just trying to get through this move I have going on. Also, I just got my Video Assist HD from BMD, def a huge jump in color from 8 bit to 10 bit HD, have you tested the UHD on your 7" Video Assist, I know its only 8 bit, was there any noticeable difference from that to the internal? Worth it?
I would assume the best way to attack this would be to Color Correct in DaVinci, so the exposure and WB is correct. Then, when you export to the ProRes preference and import into your edit suite, you can cut, add effects and then actually Color Grade from there. If you're exporting as a 10-12Bit file, it shouldn't be difficult to make corrections. But that's just my thought.
Great work on the vlog, please keep it up, I own a C200, I love Resolve and use it all the time, but I have not been happy with BMD's implementation of Canon Raw Light. With Resolve's raw controls inoperative for CRM, there is no control of the colour space conversion in the de-baying process and noise in the blacks is a serious issue in low light footage. I have found this is fixed by using Canon's Raw Development software and de-bayering CRM into it's correct colour space, rendering out ProRes 4444 master files and deleting the CRM's. The PR 4444 files are 12 bit, they're a delight to grade with, they have all the dynamic range, detail and flexibility of the originals and a big plus is that Resolve plays them in real-time and they're are only slightly bigger than the originals. I was hoping to be able to work straight off the CRM's in Resolve as one might with R3D's, but after extensive testing, I don't think BMD has gotten it right - at least not yet. Hopefully future updates will make all the tools available, but at the moment (for me) the conversion just ain't right.
Very interesting! Thanks for your input. I think the noise issue in the blacks might be clog2 vs clog3. Resolve doesn't tell us which one we're looking at, but I suspect its clog2 with its 2 extra stops in the blacks that are pretty noisy. I have been reluctant to use the Canon Raw Dev because having a fluid color balance in Raw is the thing I most like about the grade in resolve. I really hope the next version of Resolve gives us access to the Raw panel..
Yes, you're right. De-bayering to Clog3 seems to deliver a better result in low light and clog2 offers more range in bright light. Switching between them in CRD you can see which one works best. I agree, no-one seems to know exactly how Resolve is handling this and without access to raw controls, we just don't really know what's going on. Hopefully BMD is getting some pressure on this . . . Cheers
raw data hasn't any log curve/gamma. That settings in camera for compressed (codec) video. but Resolve ingests that raw data in a Clog2 or Clog3 i can't remember now which one
Thanks so much for sharing all this information. Really appreciated! I have 3 questions I hoped you could help me with. 1. Currently the exfs data is overlayed over the 16-9 frame. Is there a way to have this information (iso,fps,etc) outside the 16-9 image? I know the c300 mark 2 does this and was hoping the c200 would do also. 2 How much record time do you get on a 256gb cfast card? 3. Could you suggest the most affordable cards? Massive props, and thanks again : )
Glad you're getting something our of it! Not sure about the overlays and the c300. My BM screen itself is 16:9 no there isn't anywhere for them to go outside of the image. I do use the 'display' key to toggle them on and off to compose with. I'm getting around 36 minutes of Raw on a 256g card. The cheapest and most reliable right now is the Ego disk - amzn.to/2hhx1Ht - Everyone is hope they launch a 512g soon.
Loving your videos. Have you had a chance to compare the C200 with the Red camera image? We have been Red users with a Scarlet-x and are considering ditching it for the C200. The C200 will be a lot more flexible on wide range of shoots. We are just worried about the losing the cinematic look and feel of R3d footage. Any thoughts?
Thanks! I've shot a lot on red in the past and have never been a huge fan. The image quality to money and time spent ratio has always been behind the curve, for me at least. I think that Canon's clog2 and clog3, both of which the C200 shoots, are easily as cinematic, if not more so, than the image you're getting from your Scarlet-X, and its a lot cheaper and easier to work with than the Red. I know a lot of people who own and shoot with the Red camera, get a great result and love it. I'm just not one of them.
Thanks for this! Really useful, I'm just looking at which speed SD Cards I would need for the MP4 footage. Which do you use? I read that the MP4 codec is 150 mb/s - Will the Lexar 1000x (Reads at 150 mb/s, writes at 80 mb/s) be fast enough? Or would I need to get the Lexar 2000x (Reads at 300 mb/s writes at 260 mb/s) A little confused!
Hello! I am struggling with export files from Canon C200 for CZcams... Your channel picture quality is truly amazing. Can you please tell what render settings do you use? What is the best way to bring all the details here - on youtube?
Thanks! I think shooting Raw is the first step. You can sharpen in post and there is no noise or compression to sharpen. Then output from Premiere CC at 20 Mbps. That's all I'm doing :)
Thank you for answer! :) Before we go into Adobe Premiere - we deliver from DaVinci, is that right? What is the deliver settings in Resolve in order to save all information? What is th export format?
Great video! I'm a professional photographer that is trying to get more into video. I have a Canon 1dx ii and I think it takes great video, but it's obviously lacking the CLog and raw capabilities plus more that the C200 has to offer. So, is it worth saving up the money and getting a C200 to add to my two-person business since we are going heavier and heavier with video all the time? Video is starting to become more important and lucrative for us than photography, so I am willing to save the money over time to get it if it is truly worth it. Thank you ahead of time for anyone that answers!
Very interesting - thanks for sharing. Can I ask what camera profile you use when recording to mp4 - do you trust 8 bit to be pushed enough to use C-log, or do you use something like Wide-DR?
No worries. I use clog3 on the mp4 - It actually holds up really well for grading. Its just that there is so much more in the Raw. I can't think of a time when I would use WideDR
Has anything changed? There has been a firmware update for the C200 and Davinci Resolve is now on version 15. Just wondering if this workflow has been changed.
@crimson engine, what are some of the settings you use to export / upload to CZcams? Just did my first 12bit raw on C200 after watching ur masterclass (more than half way through now!) and am excited to color grade and export it. Thanks much!
@@Crimsonengine That more than helps. That is proof that resolution is secondary to quality. I watch your videos on a 4K monitor and wouldnt be able to tell your videos are in 1080p. Amazing, thanks Rubidium!
Thanks for the insight. I was wondering because my mac doesn't handle the 4k prores on adobe too well and im trying to find a solution to how i can use the proxies to edit and then slab it on to the 4k files.
Billy Huss no worries. I grade the raw in resolve without being able to really play it. Then I output prores 2k to premiere and tweet any bits if I have to before outputting from there.
Thanks for this great Video! We received our C200 a few days ago and we have some problems with the export. We grade the footage in premier pro CC 2019 and it looks good in premier. But every time we export the clip the footage is totally overexposed! Does someone know how to fix that? Thanks in advance!!
Not sure of your workflow or format but it could be that your proofing player just isn't displaying your render correctly. Have you tried to bring the render back into premiere? Does it look different or the same? Quicktime player tends to screw things up and isn't really a good way to proof the render. You could always try a different player like VLC or Switch to see if the render looks the same.
Nice one! I’ve dabbled in Resolve but I find when I export the video (CZcams/h264 settings) the exported video doesn’t look at all like what I was viewing in Resolve (washed out etc). What would your export settings be for upload of a video like this?
Thanks! Same here on the colors. Outputs from resolve look washed out in quicktime, and they become even more so once uploaded to youtube. I compensate by adding more contrast and color than I would like, knowing that by the time it gets recompressed it will look OK.
Thanks for all your informative videos. I'm looking to buy a C200, does the Autofocus work when shooting 4k60? I heard that it doesn't work in slow motion but not sure if that's with HD120p or 4k60p?
No worries, Patrick. The 420 is still a huge step up from the c100, and a lot of features and TV shows were shot on that. Its that Raw is so good that it looks bad in comparison.
I just got 2X C200 and now trying to figure out how to grade it properly inside premiere. Your videos look very well graded, and information you provide is very helpful. Personally, I can't wait for premiere to release an update so we can natively edit C200 raw footage, without prores conversion. Again, thanks for giving me the answer to my question.
No worries! I use Resolve to grade the Raw clips right off the card, without converting them, then edit the graded prores files in premiere. I sell the LUTs I use in the link in the video description, if you are looking for a good place to start.
Have you heard/tried CFast to eSata breakout cables to record raw directly to SSDs? I’m very curious about that solution but seems lile nobody really knows about it
I haven't and I don't think I would. I'm all for messing around with lighting hacks and grip hacks, but I don't think I'd buy a third party solution for image capture. It just introduces to many points of failure to a mission critical element of your camera system. I might be wrong - if someone out there has used it with great success I'd love to hear about it.
Bao Vuong the breakout cables on amazon dont work with canon. some thought the issue was the canon cfast door not being able to close, with the breakout cable sticking out, but it turns out the canon doesnt read the cfast breakout card at all! someone jammed the cfast lock down so the camera would think the cfast door was closed, it didnt work and so far nothing has. there is a new contender on ebay now. its like breakout cfast to msata or something thats not esata. it ships straight outta china.
I could be wrong, but I don't think FCPX is ready for that yet. Mine has a hard enough time running 8bit 4K footage, let alone 12bit Raw Lite, haha. Hopefully will work sometime in the coming months, but until then, I believe the best plan is to import and color correct Raw clips in DaVinci, and export to a ProRes flavor of your choice, which FCPX will be able to run with no issues.
Yeah, Proxy would be the way to go, for sure. It's interesting watching the videos of everyone's workflow because it's all so uncharted with the bridge in Prosumer filmmaking. We're all trying to find the best way to roll, so good luck!
I just downloaded it. Going to check it out this week and try for a video next week. I’m excited about the new keyer - the one if the beta kept crashing.
Hello man. I have a ninja flame that can record 10 bit but not 4k. The Cfast cards on my c200 can record 4k but not 10 bit. So is it safe to say that something has to be sacrificed?
Crimson Engine wow!!! Thanks man... I’m still learning this camera. This thing is a journey, you’ve made things easier to understand. Thank you for that. Just saw your video about taking my film making to the next level. I need to get off of CZcams so much and start shooting. That was my huge take away. Thanks.
c200 all the way. I really wanted the Ursa mini when it was announced but rented it for a weekend and realised it wasn't for me. Some people love it and it suits their needs, but glad I waited for the c200. trying to get my hands on the EVA1 to see what all that is about...
I think it really depends on what you'll be shooting. I consider the Ursa Mini a studio camera as in you'll probably want a few helping hands when you go out and shoot; whereas it's much easier to go out and shoot something solo with the C200. Both cameras provide a beautiful image, but I personally think I'd get more use out of the C200.
It can, but you have to tell resolve to track it. It easy for short shots without much movement. It can be tricky if you have a long take and the person moves behind things.
Your videos are great. It helped me make disicion about c200 and eva 1. I will buy c200. How hard to make clip in post prodact RAW file? Color grade men sad that r3d raw from RED good more then from canon RAW.
You're welcome. I find the c200 footage easy to edit, but you need the right workflow, which I will outline in a future video. The c200 has around the same latitude (number of stops) as the Red cameras, but I much prefer the Canon color science over Red colors. Its largely personal taste.
When we go to a theater, all we see is, a color of about 12 bit - a between muddy 8 bit color and 32 bit crisp color bit. 12 bit color depth is the main player in the industry. To me, your 32 bit color made the main subject look to much like a cut out of the background - a green screen affect look in a way. Your foreground and background looks too separated, too clean (fake look). Your overall image look somewhat way too harsh. Have you try to limit your image to 12 bit and can you show us? 10 bit color from this guys look so professional, just as the way I see in the theater or a 4K movie. mattscottvisuals.com/
Hey Phal, thanks for watching. The max color bit depth of the c200 is 12 bit in raw, so thats what all these images are. If you're a fan of Matt Scott and his visuals, he's the one you should be talking to. He has a bunch of Tutorials on that site that looks great. He's from Hobart, which is one not that far (in global terms) from where I grew up in Melbourne.
You're very straight forward with little bullshit, and very easy to understand. Thank you!
Great work and happy to add these luts for my awesome C200. All the best RB
Cheers! Thanks for your support. Hope you get a good result with them
I am a run and gun doco guy working in the humanitarian space - Africa, Middle East etc - mainly for RedR Australia. I also have an XC10 which is just awesome as I look just like a tourist...lol. But the C200 is also awesome. The two cameras work really well together. Thanks again. I love your work and really appreciate the sharing of your experience. Useful info from someone with real world experience. Cheers.
Have a new subscriber great work.
Been following you for quite a bit now, since your first C200 vid. Have really taken advantage of your videos so, the least I can do now is show my support via your luts. And of course, I also get some luts haha. I will be using them soon since I am currently renting the C200. Also, I plan to watch your movie on Amazon really soon. Keep up the good work my friend!
Thank you, Gabriel! I really appreciate it. Let me know what you'd like to see future videos about and I'll do my best. Enjoy the LUTs :)
Hello, if possible, it would be very interesting to see a more advanced color grading workflow with the C200 footage, with HSL, power windows, tracking, to see how far the Canon Raw Light footage can be stretched. Also interesting to hear your opinion on the quality of sound via cameras XML, as compared to a double system recording. How is the quality? Does the fan make a lot of noise if mic is mounted to camera? Thank you for your work.
You are welcome! By the way, here is a thought. You could probably offer the same version of the LUTs, but for the MP4 files as well. Cheers!
Excellent footage 👍🏻😀 i like the C200, maybe my next cam 😊
Just bought the C200 because I saw your videos. Sorry, I didn't use your link in the description. I'm going to buy your lots. I bought the Tamron 24-70 2.8 and 70-200 2.8 for my C100. Worked perfectly. BUT!!! not on the C200. HAVE YOU HEARD ANYTHING about firmware updates or hack? Thank you for this great channel.
You're welcome :) What isn't working on the lenses?
Nice
Great video man, what do you film your a-roll on?
Thanks! Everything in the video that wasn't screen capture was shot on the c200b.
this is what we call a handsome man
Thanks Ed! Its all CGI :)
Nice tutorial, thank you.
Thanks for the video! I keep meaning to learn Resolve (and color grading in general) but I only do very basic video work occasionally and usually only shooting my music gear) so I keep on using Sony Vegas to get OK results quickly since I'm familiar with it after nearly 10 years of using the product line . (I'm using a C100 MkI to a Ninja Blade and recording DNxHD files)
If it works for you, why change? :) RAw on the c200 opens all sorts of possibility to grading, you should check it out.
The Vegas product line changed hands, from Sony to Magix which is fine, but they implemented internet connection authorization (like monthly I think) which doesn't work for me since I keep my DAW/NLE computer disconnected from the internet and any network. So I'm still on the last version of Vegas Pro Sony put out but I think at some point as technologies change I'll want to upgrade to more modern NLE software . And yes, I'd love to get into a C200, but I don't have the funds right now. ;-)
I really like your videos, thanks mate! :)
Another great vid! Thank you. So you'll really go through all the raw footage, grade it first, and then export to edit? What if you need to change a look or you end up not liking it when you get to the edit? Do you save the RAW files as well?
I'm still figuring out a workflow I like best, I hate round tripping but seems least destructive at this point. I'm going to be sharing some of my finds on c200 soon too via my channel. Just trying to get through this move I have going on.
Also, I just got my Video Assist HD from BMD, def a huge jump in color from 8 bit to 10 bit HD, have you tested the UHD on your 7" Video Assist, I know its only 8 bit, was there any noticeable difference from that to the internal? Worth it?
I would assume the best way to attack this would be to Color Correct in DaVinci, so the exposure and WB is correct. Then, when you export to the ProRes preference and import into your edit suite, you can cut, add effects and then actually Color Grade from there. If you're exporting as a 10-12Bit file, it shouldn't be difficult to make corrections. But that's just my thought.
Awesome. Thanks!
Great video! Tell me, please, do you use C-Log when shooting in RAW?
You have to - it's the only real setting
Great work on the vlog, please keep it up, I own a C200, I love Resolve and use it all the time, but I have not been happy with BMD's implementation of Canon Raw Light. With Resolve's raw controls inoperative for CRM, there is no control of the colour space conversion in the de-baying process and noise in the blacks is a serious issue in low light footage. I have found this is fixed by using Canon's Raw Development software and de-bayering CRM into it's correct colour space, rendering out ProRes 4444 master files and deleting the CRM's. The PR 4444 files are 12 bit, they're a delight to grade with, they have all the dynamic range, detail and flexibility of the originals and a big plus is that Resolve plays them in real-time and they're are only slightly bigger than the originals. I was hoping to be able to work straight off the CRM's in Resolve as one might with R3D's, but after extensive testing, I don't think BMD has gotten it right - at least not yet. Hopefully future updates will make all the tools available, but at the moment (for me) the conversion just ain't right.
Very interesting! Thanks for your input. I think the noise issue in the blacks might be clog2 vs clog3. Resolve doesn't tell us which one we're looking at, but I suspect its clog2 with its 2 extra stops in the blacks that are pretty noisy. I have been reluctant to use the Canon Raw Dev because having a fluid color balance in Raw is the thing I most like about the grade in resolve. I really hope the next version of Resolve gives us access to the Raw panel..
Yes, you're right. De-bayering to Clog3 seems to deliver a better result in low light and clog2 offers more range in bright light. Switching between them in CRD you can see which one works best. I agree, no-one seems to know exactly how Resolve is handling this and without access to raw controls, we just don't really know what's going on. Hopefully BMD is getting some pressure on this . . . Cheers
@@stephencox9507 In the raw panel if you select 'clip' then it allows you to change things. Im not entirely sure if this is legit though?
Good vid.
You need to make a new video on grading Canon Raw Light with Resolve 15 with its more complete RAW controls.
Do you know if you need the paid version of resolve to use canon raw light. I can't seem to change the color space or gamma of my raw file in resolve.
raw data hasn't any log curve/gamma. That settings in camera for compressed (codec) video. but Resolve ingests that raw data in a Clog2 or Clog3 i can't remember now which one
Thanks so much for sharing all this information. Really appreciated! I have 3 questions I hoped you could help me with. 1. Currently the exfs data is overlayed over the 16-9 frame. Is there a way to have this information (iso,fps,etc) outside the 16-9 image? I know the c300 mark 2 does this and was hoping the c200 would do also. 2 How much record time do you get on a 256gb cfast card? 3. Could you suggest the most affordable cards? Massive props, and thanks again : )
Glad you're getting something our of it! Not sure about the overlays and the c300. My BM screen itself is 16:9 no there isn't anywhere for them to go outside of the image. I do use the 'display' key to toggle them on and off to compose with. I'm getting around 36 minutes of Raw on a 256g card. The cheapest and most reliable right now is the Ego disk - amzn.to/2hhx1Ht - Everyone is hope they launch a 512g soon.
Thanks!
Loving your videos. Have you had a chance to compare the C200 with the Red camera image? We have been Red users with a Scarlet-x and are considering ditching it for the C200. The C200 will be a lot more flexible on wide range of shoots. We are just worried about the losing the cinematic look and feel of R3d footage. Any thoughts?
Thanks! I've shot a lot on red in the past and have never been a huge fan. The image quality to money and time spent ratio has always been behind the curve, for me at least. I think that Canon's clog2 and clog3, both of which the C200 shoots, are easily as cinematic, if not more so, than the image you're getting from your Scarlet-X, and its a lot cheaper and easier to work with than the Red. I know a lot of people who own and shoot with the Red camera, get a great result and love it. I'm just not one of them.
Thanks for sharing !
Is it true that the new Davinci Resolve 15 plans full support for Cinema RAW Light with the EOS C200 ?
Thanks for this! Really useful, I'm just looking at which speed SD Cards I would need for the MP4 footage. Which do you use?
I read that the MP4 codec is 150 mb/s - Will the Lexar 1000x (Reads at 150 mb/s, writes at 80 mb/s) be fast enough? Or would I need to get the Lexar 2000x (Reads at 300 mb/s writes at 260 mb/s) A little confused!
It outputs 150 MegaBit/s not Megabyte/s! So a 1000x Card is more then enough.
Thank you sir
Hey man !! My .CRM files dont open in studio 16.. It says "media offline" whats should I do ?
Hello! I am struggling with export files from Canon C200 for CZcams... Your channel picture quality is truly amazing.
Can you please tell what render settings do you use?
What is the best way to bring all the details here - on youtube?
Thanks! I think shooting Raw is the first step. You can sharpen in post and there is no noise or compression to sharpen. Then output from Premiere CC at 20 Mbps. That's all I'm doing :)
Thank you for answer! :)
Before we go into Adobe Premiere - we deliver from DaVinci, is that right? What is the deliver settings in Resolve in order to save all information? What is th export format?
Great video! I'm a professional photographer that is trying to get more into video. I have a Canon 1dx ii and I think it takes great video, but it's obviously lacking the CLog and raw capabilities plus more that the C200 has to offer. So, is it worth saving up the money and getting a C200 to add to my two-person business since we are going heavier and heavier with video all the time? Video is starting to become more important and lucrative for us than photography, so I am willing to save the money over time to get it if it is truly worth it. Thank you ahead of time for anyone that answers!
good stuff. what about for music video ? would u still recommend these luts u made ?
Very interesting - thanks for sharing. Can I ask what camera profile you use when recording to mp4 - do you trust 8 bit to be pushed enough to use C-log, or do you use something like Wide-DR?
No worries. I use clog3 on the mp4 - It actually holds up really well for grading. Its just that there is so much more in the Raw. I can't think of a time when I would use WideDR
Has anything changed? There has been a firmware update for the C200 and Davinci Resolve is now on version 15. Just wondering if this workflow has been changed.
Nice! When you export out of Resolve, do you use Prores 422?
yes! 422 is small enough to edit fast but still has plenty of info if I want to grade again in premiere.
Does this camera still have autofocus in 60p?
@crimson engine, what are some of the settings you use to export / upload to CZcams? Just did my first 12bit raw on C200 after watching ur masterclass (more than half way through now!) and am excited to color grade and export it.
Thanks much!
Hey Vijay! I use the default premiere CZcams 1080 setting but bump the bit rate to 18mbps. Hope that helps!
@@Crimsonengine That more than helps. That is proof that resolution is secondary to quality. I watch your videos on a 4K monitor and wouldnt be able to tell your videos are in 1080p. Amazing, thanks Rubidium!
What are your Camera RAW and Color Management settings in DaVinci Resolve for the Canon raw footage?
Thanks for the insight. I was wondering because my mac doesn't handle the 4k prores on adobe too well and im trying to find a solution to how i can use the proxies to edit and then slab it on to the 4k files.
Billy Huss no worries. I grade the raw in resolve without being able to really play it. Then I output prores 2k to premiere and tweet any bits if I have to before outputting from there.
Thanks for this great Video! We received our C200 a few days ago and we have some problems with the export. We grade the footage in premier pro CC 2019 and it looks good in premier. But every time we export the clip the footage is totally overexposed! Does someone know how to fix that? Thanks in advance!!
Not sure of your workflow or format but it could be that your proofing player just isn't displaying your render correctly. Have you tried to bring the render back into premiere? Does it look different or the same? Quicktime player tends to screw things up and isn't really a good way to proof the render. You could always try a different player like VLC or Switch to see if the render looks the same.
Good job! Do you have video how you get the 12 bit image I saw in another video? Can you do that with an Atomos recorder or just the BM?
Cheers! 12 bit is only available in the internal Raw. The camera can put out 10bit 1080p or 8bit 4k.
About Resove 15 : Going to check it out this week and try for a video next week.......... No news ? ;)
It seems a lot more stable than the beta. I've been trying to learn more about the fusion elements and its daunting!
.....fusion elements and its daunting!....+1 ....:)
Nice one! I’ve dabbled in Resolve but I find when I export the video (CZcams/h264 settings) the exported video doesn’t look at all like what I was viewing in Resolve (washed out etc). What would your export settings be for upload of a video like this?
Thanks! Same here on the colors. Outputs from resolve look washed out in quicktime, and they become even more so once uploaded to youtube. I compensate by adding more contrast and color than I would like, knowing that by the time it gets recompressed it will look OK.
Thanks for all your informative videos. I'm looking to buy a C200, does the Autofocus work when shooting 4k60? I heard that it doesn't work in slow motion but not sure if that's with HD120p or 4k60p?
All the autofocus modes work great in 40k60p. Its the 120p mp4 mode that its disabled in.
Crimson Engine Thank you. Thats not so bas as I cant see me using the mp4 120p...hoping for a decent firmware upgrade but not counting on it
No worries, Patrick. The 420 is still a huge step up from the c100, and a lot of features and TV shows were shot on that. Its that Raw is so good that it looks bad in comparison.
Cool, have you had a chance to use Canon official C200 luts supplied on their support page under drivers and downloads?
I tried. There are about 40 of them and only a couple look half decent at a regular rec709 space. NTown have a good one.
I just got 2X C200 and now trying to figure out how to grade it properly inside premiere. Your videos look very well graded, and information you provide is very helpful. Personally, I can't wait for premiere to release an update so we can natively edit C200 raw footage, without prores conversion. Again, thanks for giving me the answer to my question.
No worries! I use Resolve to grade the Raw clips right off the card, without converting them, then edit the graded prores files in premiere. I sell the LUTs I use in the link in the video description, if you are looking for a good place to start.
Bought it. Good stuff!
And how well does the iMac export? I know it's got a good display, buy how about the processing?
Thanks! my 2016 iMac exports 4k from resolve in just faster than realtime i.e. a four minute clip in under four minutes.
Can I use this luts with slog3?? I know it should work but because it was made for c200 raw, I don't know if it's worth the investment
Hey Julian. The pack has both clog2 versions for raw and clog3 for mp4.
Have you heard/tried CFast to eSata breakout cables to record raw directly to SSDs? I’m very curious about that solution but seems lile nobody really knows about it
I haven't and I don't think I would. I'm all for messing around with lighting hacks and grip hacks, but I don't think I'd buy a third party solution for image capture. It just introduces to many points of failure to a mission critical element of your camera system. I might be wrong - if someone out there has used it with great success I'd love to hear about it.
Bao Vuong the breakout cables on amazon dont work with canon. some thought the issue was the canon cfast door not being able to close, with the breakout cable sticking out, but it turns out the canon doesnt read the cfast breakout card at all! someone jammed the cfast lock down so the camera would think the cfast door was closed, it didnt work and so far nothing has.
there is a new contender on ebay now. its like breakout cfast to msata or something thats not esata. it ships straight outta china.
does anyone have a fix for FCPX 10.4 crashing while attempting to upload RAW light files directly into FCPX?
I could be wrong, but I don't think FCPX is ready for that yet. Mine has a hard enough time running 8bit 4K footage, let alone 12bit Raw Lite, haha. Hopefully will work sometime in the coming months, but until then, I believe the best plan is to import and color correct Raw clips in DaVinci, and export to a ProRes flavor of your choice, which FCPX will be able to run with no issues.
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I seem to have it working ok with proxy files lately!
Yeah, Proxy would be the way to go, for sure. It's interesting watching the videos of everyone's workflow because it's all so uncharted with the bridge in Prosumer filmmaking. We're all trying to find the best way to roll, so good luck!
I know! We all feel alone and together in working through the workflow[s] :))
HI , Resove 15 final version "is out" ! Any "news" about color processing [ c200 & Resolve ] ?
I just downloaded it. Going to check it out this week and try for a video next week. I’m excited about the new keyer - the one if the beta kept crashing.
Do the MP4 files easily import to Davinci Resolve 14? I know about the C200 Raw files and Davinci, but what about the MP4 files and Davinci Resolve?
Resolve reads the Mp4s just fine. It a lot quicker to work with them than the raw. They play back in real time on my imac in 4k
No program needed to transcode MP4 to Resolve? If so, that's great!!! Thanks for the quick reply!
How do you use proxies from camera in your workflow? from Davinci to Premiere
Billy Huss I don’t. I just grade the raw itself. That might change with the new codec next year, but for now I don’t think the proxies add that much.
Hello man. I have a ninja flame that can record 10 bit but not 4k. The Cfast cards on my c200 can record 4k but not 10 bit. So is it safe to say that something has to be sacrificed?
The c200 shoots 12 bit Raw 4k internally. You really don't need to use a external recorder with it.
Crimson Engine wow!!! Thanks man... I’m still learning this camera. This thing is a journey, you’ve made things easier to understand. Thank you for that. Just saw your video about taking my film making to the next level. I need to get off of CZcams so much and start shooting. That was my huge take away. Thanks.
@@themotivationjuice My pleasure. Good luck!
great work..ursa mini pro or c200?
c200 all the way. I really wanted the Ursa mini when it was announced but rented it for a weekend and realised it wasn't for me. Some people love it and it suits their needs, but glad I waited for the c200. trying to get my hands on the EVA1 to see what all that is about...
I think it really depends on what you'll be shooting. I consider the Ursa Mini a studio camera as in you'll probably want a few helping hands when you go out and shoot; whereas it's much easier to go out and shoot something solo with the C200. Both cameras provide a beautiful image, but I personally think I'd get more use out of the C200.
How many minutes of 4K raw can you put on one 512gb card?
60 min
Aww man. I thought this was a color grading video not a LUT video. Love your content, but the title was a little misleading.
Does that circle at 7:04 track the face if you move around?
It can, but you have to tell resolve to track it. It easy for short shots without much movement. It can be tricky if you have a long take and the person moves behind things.
How do you get to the 120 fps option? I can only get to 60fps.
The 120 is only for the mp4, not the Raw. You have to alter the shooting mode, then the frame rate
Oh yes. I'm trying to use it on mp4 but I'm not sure how to do so. Do I switch to "slow motion mode" then what?
do you know if 120 fps is recorded in 8 or 10 bit?
its 8 bit and its pretty heavily compressed. If you were to cut it with raw footage, the drop in quality is noticeable.
Thanks for taking your time to answer me.
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I had to use google translate for this :) Thank you! Hope it helped
Your videos are great. It helped me make disicion about c200 and eva 1. I will buy c200. How hard to make clip in post prodact RAW file? Color grade men sad that r3d raw from RED good more then from canon RAW.
You're welcome. I find the c200 footage easy to edit, but you need the right workflow, which I will outline in a future video. The c200 has around the same latitude (number of stops) as the Red cameras, but I much prefer the Canon color science over Red colors. Its largely personal taste.
Oh cool. I will wait for technical analysis from you and advice in future video.
When we go to a theater, all we see is, a color of about 12 bit - a between muddy 8 bit color and 32 bit crisp color bit. 12 bit color depth is the main player in the industry. To me, your 32 bit color made the main subject look to much like a cut out of the background - a green screen affect look in a way. Your foreground and background looks too separated, too clean (fake look). Your overall image look somewhat way too harsh. Have you try to limit your image to 12 bit and can you show us? 10 bit color from this guys look so professional, just as the way I see in the theater or a 4K movie. mattscottvisuals.com/
Hey Phal, thanks for watching. The max color bit depth of the c200 is 12 bit in raw, so thats what all these images are. If you're a fan of Matt Scott and his visuals, he's the one you should be talking to. He has a bunch of Tutorials on that site that looks great. He's from Hobart, which is one not that far (in global terms) from where I grew up in Melbourne.
Why Davinci over Adobe?
Because Adobe does not support Canon Raw Light at this time.
Premiere has some great grading tools, but nothing like Resolve. Also, what Bob said is true - only resolve can read the c200 raw files.
Thank you guys for the info.
link:
www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?359913-Davinci-Resolve-15-supports-full-Canon-RAW-controls
Looks that way! The beta is missing white balance and gamma. I'll do a review once the full version drops. Thanks for the heads up!