Why I'm Excited and Worried About Amazon's Fallout
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- čas přidán 26. 08. 2024
- The new trailer for the Fallout tv series dropped recently, and I have a lot to say about it.
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I could be wrong, but in fallout 1 where the Cathedral was with the master was south of the boneyard, so that big crater might be the remains of the cathedral.
Holy Shit, I never even considered that. That would actually be pretty cool to see the aftermath. Maybe in the scene Maximus is explaining to Lucy that one Vault Dweller can make a big difference.
I think the same.
It is
@@blitzbyte97 Yeah but if were looking at both craters in both shots are the same area, if you look at both shots and look at the buildings on the left they are identical, I so yes this man is wrong cause both are still in the area of shady, but I have seen a theory floating around that the ending in new Vegas lonesome road where you nuked the NCR might have been canon. Or the East Coast brotherhood somehow found a nuke lying around and blew shady and two what I have also been wondering is, why does shady look like a actual city there would be no way for them to have been building skyscrapers in that short amount of time between New Vegas and fallout 4. But am a little sad if the NCR is somehow turned into a ragtag group instead an actual military force just cause there capital was destroyed which is a dumb story move, cause governments can move there capital to other parts of the country inside there territory. One more piece is that, I REALLY want to see the west coast vertibirds instead of the shitty east coast ones, don't get me wrong they look nice but there more used as support and transport, while the Regular one that we all know and love is a gunship/transport that was in the US Army dating back to 2077.
@@commanderwolf395 I don't think there is a West Coast version of the Vertibirds. They're the same as before just reinterpreted. A lot of things went through slight redesigns between Fallout 2 and Fallout 3, then again between Fallout: New Vegas and Fallout 4.
I have to disagree with you on the cars. The car wrecks in the trailer look far more like the ones depicted in Fallout 1 and 2. I believe this is a good thing. Ideally, the show should cater to both fans of the original games, fans of the Bethesda games, and a new and broader audience, who is unfamiliar with both approaches to Fallout.
I can see your reasoning. I just would like some consistency, given how much of the aesthetics are taken directly from Fallout 4 and 76.
ooo dude, its not going to cater to any fans. You think it will because it has a fallout name but they say its not for fans.
Any time a show says f the old fans in favor of getting new fans, both is going to fail at making money and fail at making enough new fans to justify trying to replace the last ones. Yes micro transactions mean 1% of gamers pay more than the other 99% put together. But you can't micro transaction a tv show.
Take a franchise with established lore and fans and they get confused why we don't like the new stuff...you do have phones right?
@@ravinraven6913Of course it is going to cater to fans, but not at the expense of new fans, or the creative vision of the creators. Some fans will certainly be disappointed, but hopefully most fans will be somewhat happy.
@@ravinraven6913If you're referring to what the director Jonathan Nolan said, he didn't say the show is not for Fallout fans. He said it's not possible to make a show that pleases all Fallout fans, so he's not even going to try to please everyone. He is a Fallout fan himself, so he's making a show to please himself, and hopefully the rest of us will enjoy it too. That could be a good thing or a bad thing though. Won't really know until the show drops and we can check it out for ourselves.
It's not about catering to the fans or whatever, it's just 100 times cheaper to build a set comprised of real old junk. Imagine building these retro futuristic cars from scratch.
gonna be pissed if NCR is fodder or mostly gone, and Brotherhood somehow is again everywhere like ffs
In every ending in New Vegas, the NCR comes out extremely weakened due to the war over Hoover Damn. All that money, all those lives, just for a bit more power and water. When any government nearly exhausts itself in a conflict, it's not going to be in good shape, and it ends up falling back a bit. It could the that, 15 years after the events of New Vegas, the NCR is somewhat in decline and now the Brotherhood feels it's a good time to hit them back for what happened at Helios and other locations. Take back territory, tech and weapons that the NCR looted from them.
I'll hold off judgement until I can see for myself what's going on and the reasoning for it, rather than make up scenarios in my head to get angry about.
I agree. If they're just "weakened" and not "down and out", I'll be cool with it.
Bethesda likes to fetishize BoS , expect them to turn ncr into fodder in favor of glazing BoS
Yeah I have this nagging feeling that they will just erase or ignore much of Classic Fallout, at least we have Fallout Wip from Sodaz.
@elijahgrimm8052 no in the ending where they win they get to annex basically the whole mojave, including vegas. Also even in the non legion endings, they still have a friendly government on the border sending them power and they don't have to occupy the mojave anymore.
I'm going to assume it's terrible just so I'm not heart broken. If it's great I will quickly admit how stupid I was. I can't take another rings of power. My heart can't take it.
Well, they say if you set your expectation low, you'll never be disappointed in your life!
Would not be surprised if Bethesda retcons New Vegas lore out, making it non-canon.
And Fallout 1 and 2. They're probably not going to retcon it, but rather just throw some BS out so that its no longer relevant.
Interplay made post-post-apocalypse games, while Bethesda bends over backward to keep it post-apocalypse.
Wouldn't be surprised either, but I wouldn't be disappointed.
For those upset about a female protagonist, you haven't played a single Fallout game.
I know right. I mean I usually play as male, but I've played through each game as a female at least once!
For those ignoring everything about the development of this series just has to look at cpt marvel and see how that went.
Especially when the Director flat out says “it’s not for the fans”
@@blitzbyte97 I just did a female once. But i do not care the slightest about a female lead. But i am an grownup antibeta.
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Its always funny to me when people say it looks like cosplay, yet frankly the prop looks good... is that a nock at the show or just a compliment to how good cosplay has gotten lol... the pipboy looks fine
Honestly, it's not terrible, I just think it looks too plain compared to the version we see in Fallout 4. Especially the right side. It kind of reminds me of Odin's first attempt at a homemade Pip-Boy.
@@blitzbyte97it’s really not that bad this is a master props studio
Walton Goggins as a wisecracking ghoul gunslinger kind of already has me excited.
Friendly reminder Henry Cavill didnt save Netflixes Witcher
@@inzyniertv9305 I know, but it's enough to get me to TRY the show. It very well could be shit, but I'll wait and see.
@@ronarnold1507 Maybe its going to be a miracle and the show wont suck
It’s not the fact that a girl protagonist is bad it’s the fact that I know that we’re all worried about how she’s going to be written and generally how all of this is going to go down
She speaks like a corporate HR commissar... I know its set in Cali but come on
Bro DID NOT see the last trailer.
Bethesda uncannonizing the NCR in favor of the brotherhood, out of sheer pettiness and control for west coast cannon, is criminal. Genuinely upset
Todd is compleating his vindictive journey with this Show. Wipeing out the NCR in a flashback. Cant make a better Fallout then Ilfonic just destroy the main faction in there game off screen
I want to believe Todd wouldn't do that, but then again his actions speak volumes..
I feel like Todd is gonna do something stupid like that given his hard-on for the BOS and having them become top dog in all of the fallouts he's done.
@@moviesRcool596Destroying the BOS in FONV and FO4 is so much fun, I don't think that Bethesda is as pro BOS as you believe.
The NCR being nuked seems like they canonized a NFV Lonesome Road ending, notably where you launch the missiles toward the I-15 and possibly other places in the NCR’s core regions.
Also LA is, from what I understand via various NCR lore in the games (via Chief Hanlon in FNV and Fallout 2), is a functional and safe city under the NCR where raiders are barely present, and its infrastructure is rebuilt like pre-war cities, they would have even cars too (Thank Vault City for that in Fallout 2).
My question is, wtf happened?
Not sure. I think the Lonesome Road Nuke only hit the I-15 and not anywhere further.
I'm sure they have some crazy explanation as to why everything looks like it did before Fallout 1.
@@blitzbyte97 True they do say it says it hits the I-15, but when looked into the endings and credit slide voiceovers, I noticed that if you chose to hit both the Legion and NCR, the slides states;
“The Divide erupted in fire, violent, red as the last message of the two Couriers arced into the sky... The missiles rained like spears down on the land, burning flags and communities alike... destroying all they struck. The history of the West was erased for the second time, thorough and complete... and America slept once more.”
That has been a key worry for me because it doesn’t say the I-15, but communities. Idk, I can be overthinking this.
@@blitzbyte97 True they do say it says it hits the I-15, but when looked into the endings and credit slide voiceovers, I noticed that if you chose to hit both the Legion and NCR, the slides states;
“The Divide erupted in fire, violent, red as the last message of the two Couriers arced into the sky... The missiles rained like spears down on the land, burning flags and communities alike... destroying all they struck. The history of the West was erased for the second time, thorough and complete... and America slept once more.”
That has been a key worry for me because it doesn’t say the I-15, but communities. Idk, I can be overthinking this. (Apologies if this was sent twice)
There are many BoS chapters on the west coast. Its not just 1 small isolated chapter in New Vegas....
Never said it was. But as stated in Fallout 2 they were reduced to a small number of bunkers across the Wasteland. And in New Vegas, the Brotherhood was stated to be fighting a losing war with the NCR due to their low population and refusal to recruit outside their order.
Maxson uniting the East Coast BoS probably changes the power dynamic somewhat@@blitzbyte97
April is going to be a good month for those who enjoy the Fallout franchise, on top of the TV series release we're also getting the release of the Fallout London mod, which is almost a whole new Fallout game.
Don't forget the sequel to Fallout: Nuka Break!
wait, London comes out next month too, holy hell what a time to be a Fallout fan lol
Star trek discovery is also coming in April lol.
@@blitzbyte97 What sequel to ‘Fallout Nuka-break’, I enjoyed the original two seasons but hadn’t heard anything about a follow up.
@@mrjockt Zach Finfrock announced a new short film called "Fallout: Breaking" on his Twitter account. It's fully funded and coming out some time before the show.
Maybe the ncr won at Hoover d but the nuke ncr ending for the lonesome road dlc also happened
That's definitely a possibility.
@@blitzbyte97 I while heartily agree with your point of the vault doors being like v76, I hope they explain that
And I'm guessing the pip boy is a sub model of the 3000 series
@@MatthewFavorite1927 Well we know Vault-Tec was kinda all over the place when it came to what kind of Pip-Boy Vaults got. Like giving the 2000 series to some of the West Coast and West Virginia Vaults, while the Mojave, Washington D.C. and Boston Vaults got the 3000 series.
The problem is that the idiots over at Bethesda and Amazon think Fallout is just power armor super mutants and the BOS. Far as I'm concerned this IP is dead and its time for it to get a true spiritual successor.
One of the original writers of Fallout is working on the series, and the director is a fan of the games, having played 3, 4 and New Vegas.
@@starhammer5247its literally the dude that made intersteller, westworld and two of the dark knight trilogies. I have massive faith in this show
@@BlckPollen So do I. Everything about it seems promising.
@@BlckPollen West World had only 1 good season the rest is shit
I haven't even seen a super mutant in trailer either
The show hasn't even started and people are already annoyed cuz their favorite thing haven't got trailer screen time 💀
Exactly what I was thinking. It needs to be given a chance. People saying they’re already pissed off about a series condensed into three minutes because they didn’t see what they wanted. I personally can’t wait!
That Yao guai alone makes it worth my time!
A bear killing a power armor guy with easy is dumb
This isn't the first live-action fall-out show.
Nuka Break is an amazing Fallout universe show on CZcams. I question if Amazon will do a better job than that small budget production
Production wise it's already better, but we'll have to see how it compares story wise.
I also want to say, I agree with you with the NCR. I am saddened that democracy got destroyed.
Long live the NCR. ❤
"you want to see the fate of Democracies, look out the window" - Mr. House, talking to the Courier in 2281. the NCR was spread THIN by the time of NV, and the cracks were already showing. with massive corruption being abundant. if we learn that the NCR fell HARD, and having a reinforced BOS didn't make things better. my take on it is, NCR AND Legion both lost the dam. Kimball got assassinated (Caesar died to a tumor), and the BOS, smelling blood in the water, got reinforcements from the east and slaughtered the already weakened NCR
@@LUNITICWILL I agree and thank you for not being rude about it (some get... Harsh lol). Much appreciated and it is true, Mr House does have some interesting things to say about ideologies.
@@LUNITICWILL The NCR is very far form being on the verge of collapse in New Vegas. Only their campaign in the Mojave is screwed without the courier's intervention. California is pretty much civilized by the end of Fallout 2 and during the campaign of New Vegas. If this series had really wanted to be a Fallout story that took place during the scavenger/wasteland phase of the post-apocalypse, then it makes no sense to set it in California at this time.
@@Thagomizer You're assumption is that the NCR is stable and has plentiful resources within it's own borders. it doesn't; that's why they are expanding. The evidence says that they are throwing everything at the fight in the Mojave and when they lose they don't get any of it back. it's kind of hard to fight off the barbarians on your borders when you just lost a major conflict abroad. Oddly enough; it's exactly why Rome fell.
The NCR getting nuked and collapsing during the fight against a re-united Brotherhood would be a great plot point and makes a lot of sense in-universe.
I also linke the Cars, wich are more in line with the older Fallout titles.
Yeah, but it doesn't really fit with the mostly Fallout 4 and Fallout 76 aesthetics they have going on with the rest of the props. I also think the newer designs made more sense since it's supposed to be a Retro-Future.
@@blitzbyte97 yeah, finding the right Design is a process, but one does not cancel out the other.
It makes very little sense in-universe. The NCR has a population of about 700,000, with territory stretching up into Northern Cali and Oregon. They pretty much control all of California.
Great video, but couple things I feel I have to point out to you. The West Coast chapters were well on its way to becoming more like the East Coast chapters even as early as before 2287, even Fallout 4 gives some evidence to this. One must understand that Maxson being elected Elder of the Capital Wasteland chapter on the East Coast changed everything for the BOS, even for those at the Brotherhood mother chapter of Lost Hills. And the NV ending that I am going to mention below is probably the most likely one given the events that we are seeing in the trailer. But Maxson does mention in dialogue that the West Coast Brotherhood was becoming more active and "had begun to send out patrols again." This is later supported even further. Even before the East Coast BOS was presumably victorious over The Institute, terminals on the Prydwen state that Maxson's actions/victories had not only allowed the Brotherhood's influence to begin spreading along on the Eastern seaboard, but was beginning to affect the choices and actions of the West Coast chapters as well. It is mentioned that Maxson's actions are so inspirational that it even causes the West Coast BOS to end their period of isolationism and begin to exit their bunkers, they even began to annihilate cultists and other dangerous threats. The terminal entry states: "He has the full support of the Elders on the West Coast, who have proudly reported they have begun eradicating cults that had popped up. They (West Coast BOS) worship Maxson as though he were a god." With all that being said if he was victorious over The Institute I wouldn't be surprised if he was promoted to High Elder of the entire Brotherhood of Steel, and if that were the case the actions of the West Coast chapters would not be their choice anymore.
The airship is called The Caswennan. It's a completely different ship from the Prydwen. It obviously came into West Coast BOS service sometime prior to 2296. Schematics for the T-60 power armor along with the airship could simply be transferred back to the West Coast. This would work out much better for them, as the West Coast Brotherhood while they have been inactive in terms of governance on surface, they have spent decades stockpiling large amounts of vital technologies and other resources that the East Coast Brotherhood just didn't have access to at their earlier days (the defeat of The Enclave really changed things for them). Making the production of these items probably far more easy for them. Not to mention they have had 15 years since the events of New Vegas to prepare for another conflict with the NCR. As we know from dialogue in Fallout 4, The Prydwen took a moderate amount of time to build, Kells states: "It took the Brotherhood's sharpest minds (on East Coast) over two years to design and more than twice that to build." It came into service in 2282, which means that the BOS had been designing the airship as far back as 2275-76. This being prior to the defeat of The Enclave or the events of Fallout 3 which occur in 2277. Now by the time the show takes place in 2296, The Prydwen technology being 21 years old at this point gives them two decades to improvise and improve the design / production. With it only taking 4 years to manufacture one, it's not unreasonable to assume that they might have several by this point. But yeah I believe that this airship was manufactured on the west coast most likely. The problem with NCR territory is that it's so large, even though the Lost Hills bunker complex resides inside the NCR state of Maxson, they do not know its location. They would more than capable of building something like this without being noticed I think.
And yes the NCR was the strongest government in Fallout but unfortunately it looked to be stagnating and on the decline during the events of New Vegas, before the battle even happened. It had greatly overextended itself and the Republic suffered from almost crippling levels of corruption and preventive bureaucracy. With what we see in the trailer it looks that Shady Sands, the capital of the NCR has been destroyed by some kind of cataclysmic event. Some terrible collapse or calamity obviously befell the NCR it's obvious. And I do get what you're saying but it doesn't really work against the NCR ending at all.. there are two possibilities for the NCR when it comes to victory. Complete NCR victory, or the far more likely option of NCR victory following a temporary ceasefire / alliance with the Brotherhood of Steel. When you get to a certain point in the storyline the NCR will state that the Brotherhood of Steel is something that needs to be figured out before the Second Battle of Hoover Dam. The NCR will send you to either make a truce with the Brotherhood or eliminate them. If Elder McNamara is still in and you haven't replaced him with Hardin then this truce can be agreed to. If Hardin is in then he will refuse this offer and every member of the Mojave chapter will turn hostile, one must eliminate them in order to progress. However, if the truce is agreed to, the Brotherhood of Steel actually sends armored Paladins and Knights to assist the NCR during the battle at the damn. Following the NCR's victory the end of the game cinematics the BOS Mojave chapter began to launch patrols up the i-95 highway towards the strip again. This benefited the citizens of New Vegas as trade was able to open and their presence brought added security. I believe that this is most likely The logical Canon ending as it is the only ending where the NCR survives where the Brotherhood also does in that area at least. This would also allow for the NCR to take most of the damage, cost and casualties during these struggles, well the Brotherhood remained relatively untouched on the west coast since the Battle of Helios One (which occured some years prior to 2281).
There was a lot of other factors that could be responsible for the decline of the NCR. As I mentioned above they were already facing serious issues before New Vegas even started. They had a very costly war with the Brotherhood of Steel prior where entire units of the NCR military were literally wiped out in California. Then they started a 20-year expansion into the Mojave. They have basically had to fight constant costly wars, and have also had constant issues of other kinds. Where as the Brotherhood has had a significant time to recover and heal from their wounds on the West Coast, 20-15 years by the time this show will happen. They also have new leadership now or at least new inspiration, they also seem to have adopted the same open recruitment strategy as the East Coast. It's fairly obvious that the Brotherhood has been united from coast to coast. Or we wouldn't see transfer of technology like the airship, or T-60 as standard issue on the West Coast.
All very good points. I enjoyed reading your response. But I guess we'll just to wait and see what the show presents us with to get a clear answer.
@@blitzbyte97 thank you for taking the time to read it, in hindsight I apologize about the length of my essay LOL. And that we shall, this April!!! But yeah it will be interesting, as you can tell, most of what I'm saying is based off the evidence that we do have. But The Caswennan is a fact tho, things even got it's own wiki page now. I just found out about it the other day to be honest.
Man thanks for the comment, here I was thinking I knew enough about NCR vs BOS...
@@damgaronfire Of course man, I enjoy sharing the information about the series that we both truly enjoy obviously! I truly appreciate that bro, I'm sure you have your areas of expertise yourself 🙏
@@canadianbacon9819 I was going to write out the same comment, thanks for point that out too. Here hoping the show can be at least fun to watch.
The NCR thing sounds like a lot of personal taste tho, personally I wouldn't mind if the NCR was in decline due to some event that occurred, the series is obviously going to be set more in the future of New Vegas so you can't expect the NCR to remain in great power all this time, Aside from that, I agree that some objects look too clean.
You're right about that. I honestly don't mind if the NCR isn't at full power anymore; maybe something like half their strength. I just don't want them to be like the Enclave after Fallout 2.
@@blitzbyte97Same.
Agreed. All the possible endings in NV result in a weakened NCR so I really don't mind them being portrayed as less powerful that they were in NV.
I think most people just dont want them to be wiped out completely. being weekend is fine and would explain why they haven't just taken over compleatly
@@UnderdogSMO I think most people haven't played Fallout 1 and 2, and hence don't fully appreciate what the growth of the NCR actually means to the logic and arc of the setting. 200 years is LONG time. The war is more distant to the inhabitants of California than the Napoleonic wars are to you or me. Fallout 1 took place during the "wasteland" phase of the post-apocalypse. Fallout 2 and New Vegas took place during the "Frontier" phase, at the close of two different eras. Bethesda apparently thinks people will squat in ruins for two centuries, living off pre-war salvage. You prefer a "wasteland" scavenger world? All good and well, but set the story earlier in the timeline so it makes sense.
You lost me at the end there, the collapse of the NCR isn't just possible after FNV, it's probable, even if the NCR ending is canonical (big if).
That part was my NCR bias coming through. Upon further reflection I do think that an NCR loss is very possible.
So far the character doesn't bother me, but the power armor jetpack and whatsitsname airship is unforgiveable
whats so bad about it?
@@ChineseFuhrer jetpacks are on the back it's basically a jump pack. Also no need to use it from that height.
The airship, prydwen, from the game, had its unique design due to it was constructed with parts from the mobile base crawler from Adams AFB from fallout 3. It's a one of a kind. The BoS had other, ordinary airships though. It's just annoying messing with lore. There is so much to take from and still make a great show, but I guess great shows, faithful to it's origin is a shop long sailed now
If they had the East coast brotherhood come to the west coast it would not break cannon. Its really a tiny change in the story and would satisfy the brotherhood issues. I had the same issue when looking at this trailer too. I was extremely excited and deeply concerned at the same time.
My interpretation is it, is Mr House is the cannon ending of New Vegas. Hence why the NCR are severely crippled.
Mr House confirmed in the show.
For one episode. It could be one of the scenes that takes place before the war.
I think that the brotherhood discrepancy is ok if properly explained. Now, i could very well be wrong, but from what i researched, we havent seen the Calofornia branch of the brotherhood in 55 years (although we did see the Mojave chapter in New Vegas, but i believe that's considered seperate). Alot can change in 55 years, especially if the chapter in 4 was able to influence them in any way like you suggested.
Although there is no excuse for the lack of NCR yet, they should still be around
The Vault looks good. The Vault suits look pretty good. Filly looks too "clean" I guess is the word and the way the power armor flies look horrible.
I want the show to be good given what a fan I am of the franchise (I have thousands of hours invested in these games) but Amazon is really mixed with these adaptations. Reacher and The Terminal List are pretty good but then they shit the bed with Rings of Power so wait and see if this is good of if it's hot garbage. Not gonna lie, I'm not super optimistic but I'll give it a shot and make my own opinion. I hope to be pleasantly surprised.
I think that's the right attitude to have with something like this.
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Yeah based on the trailers we have gotten so far it does kind of make me concerned that the show runners really don’t get fallout beyond a surface level understanding just plugging everything from the games and adding them in whether or not they make sense like the prydwins a good example which in a article I saw it’s supposed to be a different ship called the cassowyn and that almost makes even less sense as the prydwin was developed from the remains of the destroyed enclave base crawler from the broken steel dlc in fallout 3 like the enclave I can excuse the NCR as during fallout new Vegas they were already spread thin with not enough troops to maintain their land so I can get that maybe the NCR could have lost some territory and get weakened in the 10 years sense fallout new Vegas but the brotherhood has me concerned
Agreed.
To be fair, there was a whole fleet of Brotherhood airships in Tactics. My prediction is on the BOS coming back from the Midwest or East Coast.
There is an actor cast as "Robert House" so it seems as if the Mr. House ending of New Vegas is canon and in the 15 years between New Vegas and the show the NCR has fallen apart and/or has become extremely weak. If you think that this doesn't make sense just look at Germany abd how it changed from 1930 to 1945. The path from super power to a little, weak, poor, partitioned and occupied state can be very short.
House is listed as being in only one episode, his appearance could mean something or he could just be an easter egg for fans and used to set up the Ghouls place in society in relation to the truly powerful and wealthy in the before times.
Well, he's only in one episode, and we do know that we're getting Pre-War moments in the show. Maybe it'll be human house and not a giant monitor.
Honestly I think it would have been awesome if they got the actor who was his voice to play him in the show but yeah it's a shame about his death but I do wonder if he would have returned to do the role in live action if he was still alive.@@blitzbyte97
Yeah, but 1940s Germany had to fight WW2 a fight to the death on a national scale.
The New Vegas conflict was not a life or death situation, even in the Legion ending, they just retreat back to California and hold any expansions until further notice because of the costs and political fallout.
It is the same as to expect the US to stop existing after 3 economic crises and two wars that lasted decades between 1990s and 2010s.
@@alexandreutiyama547 the USSR literally stopped existing after losing in Afghanistan, having the Chornobyl Catastrophe, an economic crisis and a couple of college student protest. The largest empire with the biggest military jusr collapsed and even mere months beforehand most experts didn't see it coming.
There’s too much brotherhood glazing. That’s the problem with Bethesda-fallout. The NCR, Legion and enclave are all very formidable factions of the US Wasteland, and the variety of powerful factions made the wasteland so interesting.
“Brotherhood beats everything” would make it so boring.
If they’re going to use the NCR as cannon fodder , I would hope the first season ends the threat of the legion forcing both factions to cooperate.
I keep having this thought:
Let us not have a brotherhood breakaway plot, pleaaaaaaase.
Yet, YET:
If there is any series to explore the foundation for the schism this would be it. The location and timeline puts the story in that sweet spot to explain what happened to the State of Maxson and how it was forced into the N.C.R. proper, brotherhood or not. It is my pet theory that having Paladins go out along side the N.C.R. troopers was part of the treaty worked out, and those Paladins eventually softened while the ones back in the bunker did not.
If done right it won't feel like the schism does, every time, but a prelude that clearly sets the foundation for what will occur after the series ends. Alas we can all see them just doing the same thing over and over, so instead of a lone character starting to wake up to the reality of the world outside of the bunker and battlefields... we get a whole faction of them already within the heart of the brotherhood. That is my real fear, that we will simply be handed more of the same instead of a interesting twist on an old story.
For it is a pretty common story, forced to join the enemy and softening to them....
But it might be the only place the story makes sense, not crammed into every game!
Yeah it does worry me that they make the BoS in some sort of militia who wants to bring peace and order, they are a cult of technology with their own agenda something that can bring into great storytelling, I hope they really make something good of the BoS
I spy with my lizard eye (and ear)... I Don't Want To Set The World On Fire by The Ink Spots.
Very observant, nice!
Amazon. The proud folks who brought Tolkien fans "The Rings of Power" are releasing their version of Fallout. Between them & input from Bethesda, don't get your hopes up.
I'm shocked they didn't recast Dogmeat. Get rid of the German Shepherd & put in a French poodle.
It's a Bethesda game, which already has a piss poor plot line, so really anyone that gets the IP is going to produce trash. The only downside is, modders can make mods to finish it.
I’m already writing the show off after the DIRECTOR said “it’s not made for the fans.”
Halo LA 2.0
Yeah, that does have me worried. I just hope that it's not as bad as he's making it out to be.
If you paid attention to the full context, immediately after he said he wasted an entire year of his life on Fallout 3 and further expanded on it by saying, "It's a fool's errand to please the fans because not everyone shares the same view" (I'm paraphrasing), he's essentially saying that he can't please everyone, so he's just going to please himself first because he knows what he wants from a Fallout show. If he leaned hard into trying to please the fans, we'd get an adaptation of New Vegas, which would just piss off everyone.
@@starhammer5247 because this wasn’t a repeat of what they did with the halo live action series or the recent bomb that was he-man. “I’m totally a fan of the series.” Meanwhile, I’m going to release actual garbage.
@@TheWarlock97 There is a massive fucking difference between Halo and Fallout. For one, the writers of Halo NEVER PLAYED THE GAMES, meanwhile, the director of Fallout HAS played the games and ALSO forced everyone working on Westworld (his previous project) to log over 60 hours in GTA before production just so they understood the assignment, they also have writers for previous Fallout instalments working with them. The second difference is that Halo is under Paramount which I don't think has much going for it, Fallout is under Amazon which, while having some flops, has a fair few bangers and decent adaptations (The Boys and Invincible for example). The third difference is their main writers, Nolan has played the Fallout games and is a big gamer himself, he loves games and has mentioned playing them before, he loves the source material much like Henry Cavill does. Kiki Wolfkill (weird name) is obsessed with pushing her version of the Chief through and is very much considered one of the main contributors to Halo's situation LONG before the show came out. Their circumstances are not the same, therefore, not equivalent. There is a difference between not playing the games and not actively setting out to try and please the fans. If you go into a project with the sole focus of pleasing someone, there's a chance you'll just piss them off instead. Writers of stories don't actively change the plot of their stories just to please their fans, they write stories that they want to please themselves with first and foremost.
@@starhammer5247 when the first episode bombs I will say I told you so
they should have just set the show in the mid-west and not California to avoid writing issues latter.
Yeah, a place that doesn't already have established lore to contend with.
You forget that nothing that happens in New Vegas is canon until Bethesda confirms it.
It sucks. Even the vault door dont look right.
I know, I think they just went with them because they look more "cinematic".
@@blitzbyte97should have based their movie in FALLOUT 3.. its more post apocalyptic, more desolent, not too vibrant.. it has the feel of being more of an actual dystopia than F4.
So what?
@@hydrofrog6496 so what so what ?
@@SIDEKICKONCZcams So whats the point of giving a shit about all this nitpicky bullshit? If the show is bad its bad if its good its good, hyper analyzing with a mega microscope to nitpick the most asinine shit is pointless. What does a vault door being slightly different change how good the show is or isn't.
It's not Fallout. It's a pick-me writer's non-gamer interpretation of Fallout.
Seems that you expect the TV show to be a documentary about FO universe, not a new media reiteration. None of this sht matters... what matters is they use the series to push an ideological agenda or to nerf+cringe it to a brainlet audience
7:05 Fallout, Miami has to happen.
Well we are getting a DLC sized mod taking place there, but seeing it in the actual canon would be really cool!
6:14 I'm not saying I want them to have been nuked but the NCR was pretty famously set up to lose unless the courier worked their ass off to make it otherwise.
I hope we at least see some Enclave maybe some remnants
The BTS shots we've gotten have shown that the Enclave will appear in some capacity. Though it is looking like it'll be Pre-War instead of Post-War.
@@blitzbyte97 let’s go I’m happy at least we get to see some enclave
If you watch the trailer again, you can find the NCR flag in the brotherhood battle scene
Yeah, and I pointed out that so far that's all we've seen of the NCR despite it taking place in Los Angeles.
I am never worried about any adaptation of something I like, I'll always have the original and if it's not good I can move on to something else.
From what I've seen so far, the TV series will not be good from a fan's perspective (for casual viewers looks hella fun thou).
It looks like they essentially took West Coast Fallout (vault 13, Chosen One, NCR, New Vegas fanfare) and made it into Fallout 4 lore wise and in asthetics.
Doesn't matter if the NCR is on the backfoot, this region has been the center of civilization for the West Coast for more than 100 years by the time of the show, to say that all that evolution just went away in 15 years is idiotic. And don't get me started with the: "Look the BoS are relevant again because marketing!".
Exactly. What depresses me is that the writers probably haven't even played Fallout 1 or Fallout 2., and don't really understand the scope of the original series outside of New Vegas.
The car thing is actually very true. I never picked up on that. I actually don't mind the difference in the BoS, though. Overall, the show seems promising in most of the good aspects.
honestly i do not think that bethesda in it's current state even has eyes for details such as this. it is probably only about mass marketing again and not the loyal fanbase.
I was catious when the first trailer came out. Now that I know New Vegas will be retconned, the chances I'm giving it are hanging on strings
Nothing points to New Vegas being retconned. Just that certain endings might not be canon.
@@blitzbyte97 Sure, nothing points to that . . . . . yet.
It looks really good. I to am a bit apprehensive knowing Hollywood and their need to be woke
From what I've seen the only thing that grinds my gears... is that guy walking around in power armor so much unarmed... or that standard rifle.. if you have power armor, you have heavy weapons, even a super sledge... not just fists.
See I agreed with almost everything in this video but the NCR point, There is no canon ending to NV and there are other endings that could lead to the state of the NCR being awful in the tv show. Remember it's been 16 years or so since fallout nv by the event of the show, a lot can change by then. Even if there is a canon ending, Bethesda are the ones who get to decide that. I can just hope with cautiously that the show will be fun to watch at least.
True.
I'll disagree with you on signs being that the NCR would win in Fallout New Vegas, in actuality everything pointed to the Legion winning with the NCR needing the help of a mailman to save their ass. With that said though, the NCR would ultimately win the war even if losing the second battle of Hoover Dam. But the point is that the NCR was not in a good position in F:NV and I wouldn't be surprised if after defeating the Legion and being too exhausted the BOS took the opportunity to deliver a bad blow to the Republic.
Todd's hard-on for power armor was so strong, it infected the entire production team with hard-ons for power armor. Including females. And since it's the BoS that typically uses power armor, and not the NCR... Well. The -game- show was clearly rigged from the start.
Thanks for sharing your hopes & fears. I'll keep my fingers crossed. It looks good, cast looks good - although some posters seem to be losing it the protagonist is female(!) - if it varies from Fallout lore, well I'm okay with that. IF it's done 'cos what works well in a game might not work so well on the screen.
Like I said. Fingers crossed.
They made the power armor walk look bad ass instead of the goofy skipping high knee walk from the game. that there is good enough for me
Or...maybe they just changed the lore like every other game adaptation?
That's what I'm worried about. The Lore is already a mess as it is.
Really hope they mention the enclave or the factions from new vegas
Im excited that they did the universe expansion which works for a game like fallout where its typically open world and you dont have a set character that the story bases around. Basing the show or film based off of games works for games that have recognizable characters and plot elements like how TLoU worked really well as a show that went based on the games but how Halo changed a little of things and ended up flopping.
I see a lot of speculation about whether or not the NCR either lost in the second battle of Hoover dam to the legion or lost it to house or it was the independent new Vegas, Could be that even with an NCR victory at the Hoover dam, maybe the victory wasn’t as decisive and could have been a Pyrrhic victory, another possibility is that OSI projections of mass starvation came true and even if the NCR was able mitigate the crisis, it probably wasn’t enough to fully prevent the crisis, another part is that the NCR fighting a two front war even by the events of New Vegas began to finally take a massive toll on the NCR potentially bankrupting them if they tried to take former legion or current legion territory, explains maybe why they look so ragtag, even by 2281 many troopers weren’t getting proper training and body armor, the BOS in the east possibly won against the institute and maybe began or were working on a second prydwen style ship during and or after the events of Fallout 4 and as you mentioned they sent reinforcements to the west, as the NCR brotherhood war by 2296 when the story is supposedly taking place happened would have entered its 30 something to 40 something year since the conflict began, this show will probably canonize the ending for new Vegas and maybe fallout 4 but that’s just my thought. Maybe it’s a combination of all of this that explains why the NCR isn’t as present as maybe the BOS took the opportunity of a weakened NCR and set up operations in Los Angeles which probably would be a massive area for advance technology to be at, maybe the plot of the story will be for the Main character of the show to maybe help the NCR retake Los Angeles or stabilize the NCR
Definitely a possibility. I always imagined that the Minutemen Ending would be cannon in Fallout 4, but then again, the "best" ending isn't always the cannon one.
@@blitzbyte97 no exactly, my personal thought is that the NCR won but it wasn’t a decisive victory which could explain why the NCR isn’t as powerful as they were running into problems of mass fast expansion of its territory and fighting a two front war
The reason why the brother hood looks different is because first they kinda threw everything else out the window and just went full fallout 4 and according to the fallout lore cast the NCR was kinda in a place of fault after the brother hood defeated them Because at new Vegas they reference a previous war and the brotherhood could have taken over them because they were stretched extremely thin at the time of new Vegas so it kinda makes sense that the brotherhood would attack them and stop hiding to attack the NCR in there weak state and the brother hood probably saw how successful the west coast chapter was doing and copied them
NCR doesn't "ruined", it disappears, and "stays that way" they also add a little bit of so-called "West Coast" in the script like a search for replacements, such as a few names, but that's it. Nothing exists anymore, and while it's rude to say so, I urge Fallout 4 not to fill the hole Bethesda dug for this IP. It's not worth it. There's a ton of player-generated content on the Fallout 4 wiki that connects it to the previous game, But Bethesda's actions prove that they don't care, and we don't need to or should be making up for them anymore.
One of my general complaints with Fallout is that the games are too desaturated. Look at video from the Chernobyl exclusion zone and its a vibrant wilderness.
Yeah, I don't need it to be Fallout 76 levels of vibrant, but a little color and greenery never hurt the apocalypse.
You missed the Elephant in the Room. Amazon has a terrible track record so far.
Wheel of Time and Rings of Power, both exist as pure insults to the fans and pretty poor for those who don't care about the Lore.
True, but they do have things like Invincible and The Boys. Both of them are good adaptations.
@@blitzbyte97 Only if you like Brutal and Gritty shows where the "heroes" are mass murderers. I have no time for such shows. But I will grant that for that specific niche they are quality. But those are both superhero genre not fantasy or sci-fi genre.
And neither of those are female led.
Female led shows can be fantastic if well written, Amazon so far has not given us Buffy, they have given us The Last Jedi.
If i remember chief hanlon(the head of the rangers) mentioned the NCR was headed fot some bad times regardless of what happened in vegas. I dont remember exactly what, but he definitely mentioned food and water shortages.
Makes it even more likely that the NCR Ending isn't cannon, as I think a lot of their problems (at least for the time being) would have been solved by the Courier.
@@blitzbyte97yeah that’s the thing even under the best NCR ending, the NCR would still be running into longer term structural problems that would end up costing them, most of what the courier at best would have done is ease the issues and just help for the most part the NCR in the Mojave
@@prezmeji5641 It would be interesting if the NCR ending WAS canon, but the NCR did end up falling apart and the only place they still have power is the Mojave because of the Courier.
@@blitzbyte97 it would be interesting but I feel like the NCR even if they won the second battle for the Hoover dam still ran into their problems that they were beginning to have, over extension, and fighting a costly war could mean that they bankrupted themselves and are going through tough economic and political problems which would be a cool plot point for the story in the show
@@prezmeji5641 The NCR is very far from being on the verge of collapse. Only their campaign in the Mojave was. Most of the Fallout fans who haven't played 1 and 2 don't fully appreciate how the Black Isle/Obsidian titles understood and took seriously the arc of the entire location. Fallout 1 took place in the "wasteland" phase of the post-apocalypse. Fallout 2 and New Vegas take place in the "Frontier" phase, where they mark very definitive ends of specific eras in the wasteland. When fans of the older games complain about the shoddy and insulting worldbuilding of Bethesda's games, this is generally what they're talking about. California is not going to be a bombed out scavenger world for very long, and the writers of the original games understood this. The solution to this problem, of course, is not nuking the NCR. It's setting the next Fallout story earlier in the timeline, somewhere else, or both.
Season 2 could always show new stories and new charecters and main protagonists and new tones too like fallout 3 and fallout 4 are very different in tone
Would be a nice way to visit locations that couldn't necessarily fill a whole game.
NCR are in the trailer. There’s a flag carrier. I think they will make them smaller.
Someone correct me, if I am wrong, but wasn’t Maximus supposed to be a scribe?
If so, please explain to me how a scribe is allowed access to power armor, without also being a knight?
Did I miss something here, or are they playing fast and loose with the established canon?
Also, has anyone seen the new scene clip? T-60 with wrist thrusters, instead of a jet pack?
Now I know they are screwing with the story. Also, NCR is completely gone from Shady Sands? Nothing left but a crater?
Additionally, the Prydwen was a one off design from the parts of the Mobil base crawler. Where the hell did they get the exact pieces to roll another one off the assembly line? Seeing as there was no assembly line, because it was a ONE OFF.
Still, looking forward to seeing the show. But, I’m already mildly irritated.
What do you fine people think?
Well, the trailers did show Maximus with a knight in power armor, in the same location where we saw one get attacked by a Yao Gai. Maybe the knight died, and Maximus is wearing his armor to complete whatever mission they had.
Also, someone mentioned that the crater might actually be the remains of the Cathedral from Fallout 1.
I did explain in the video that a rumor says that the airship was built by the East Coast Brotherhood and sent West with soldiers to help the West Coast Chapter.
It sounds more promising than another DC/Mavel thing
Amazon's Rings of Power was not ALL bad..
Based on how many weapons I carry in the game is making the main char a female some woke bs after looking at the trailers
So is just Nobody gonna mention how dumb the power armor helmet opening from the face is?? That is a total retcon. This aint Iron-man
The games also don't really mention how users of power armor are able to eat food while still in power armor. I think it might be a reasonable answer to that game mechanic adapting it to live action.
@@Iceaxe0410 I just think it looks silly compared to how they portrayed it in fallout 4 when Danse takes his helmet off
This may seem like a strange train of thought, but I really want to know if Vault City will be referenced at all. It's an interesting comparison, I think. For one, the trailer talks about the "mission of the vaults" to rebuild the surface, which is exactly what Vault City did. For another, IIRC Vault city was annexed into the NCR, but they also had enough of a society built up themselves to survive on their own if the NCR has collapsed.That old lady in the trailer who recognizes the protagonist as a Vault dweller is probably more likely to mistake her for a Vault City citizen, and I'm wondering if there will be any dialogue to that effect.
Or, more likely, this show will just ignore the old games and it won't even get a mention.
I mean, Roger Maxson was chosen to be High Elder by the council, so the Brotherhood chapters are united now. They would all be militarized and the Caswennan is probably there to help reinforce West Coast chapters for war. Also, Caswennan means Prydwen, so it is highly likely that it's the same ship rebuilt after the events of Fallout 4.
That's kinda what I assumed as well. Though I don't think they're necessarily "united", as the Brotherhood on the East Coast is still very different from the West. I just think they're more tolerated at this point due to them once again focusing on preserving technology.
NCR being stretched thin and weakened due to crappy bureaucracy is honestly what NV was getting at and their ramshackle appearance is accurate to how some soldiers don’t even get actual armor in the army. There’s also the fact that Caesar was born in the NCR and specifically in LA where the Boneyard is and he even says it was an awful place to live in
Edit: ALL SIGNS DID NOT POINT TO AN NCR VICTORY AT HOOVER DAM LOL
Yeah that bit did have my NCR bias showing a bit.😳
But that was NCR in the MOJAVE. Did you ever play Fallout 2?
@@Thagomizer Yea and they’re also doomed there because of resources and mismanagement of the entire army. There are no more lakes in California and there is an inevitable food shortage happening according to Hildern after a decade
You don't need to be worried. We already knew it was going to be a pile of shit. But now we know it's a flaming pile of shit.
This is gonna be our Rings of Power.
think i just threw up a little, thanks lol@@LordGhentsis
maybe vault 33 is similar to vault 76 though, maybe its just how important control vaults are structured. also maybe the way the airship is there is because they are east coast, but just after fallout 4. also we dont know when in the lore the show is taking place, might be before the ncr existed, maybe they came to their demise somehow. just watch it before you make any assumptions
We do know when it takes place. They said it's 9 years after the events of Fallout 4.
@blitzbyte97 oh okay, I never read that. Does make more sense
now i wonder will either the courier or goodsprings appear?
Oh they just took everything from F4 and F76.
Looks really crappy - real Fallout movie should take the best from "A boy and his dog", "Mad Max" and etc. in a Fallout1-2 universe - not those Todd's sweet dreams.
Dark, cruel, sometimes absolutely hopeless but with a bright shine in the end.
So in lore, the Prydwen was not one of a kind. Theres actually several of them, all made from the West Coast Brotherhood of Steel chapter. They were militarized and sent out to hunt down Supermutants after the events of Fallout 1, with some of being destroyed or scuttled in the ensuing battle. Its why there is a Chicago Brotherhood of Steel chapter. What I think this series is meant to take place, is inbetween the events of Fallout 1 and 2, with the NCR starting to grow in power and fighting against the Brotherhood for territory, with the Brotherhood going into Bunkers to hide as they pushed themselves so thin with sending out their Airships to hunt Super Mutants and one of the last ones being sent to the East Coast to make a chapter in the Capitol Wasteland.
If this turns out to be wrong and NCR is being brushed aside for Brotherhood to be very powerful, I'll be pissed.
This is set 15 years after Vegas and 9 years after 4. It's been a long enough time for shit to go south, and in the trailers, you do actually see the NCR.
isn't that revolver that the ghoul point at the MC a mod for fallout 4 ?
Kinda looks like it. Might be at the very least inspired by it.
Producer of the show says this product is not aimed to the video game fans, what do you all think? is it or not betrayal?
Why do they continually do this? They said this about halo too. Okay.. so who is watching? Noone? My parents, who don't play games, give a negative care about it. My brother who plays video games but not fallout, doesn't care about it at all. My girlfriend who doesn't play fallout, is not interested in the slightest, and me, who DOES care about fallout, just saw that super lame brotherhood of steel dude stop a fight with words while being written into the scene with the subtlety of a train crash
@@rrai1999 So they can cast the biggest net and reel in audiences, the fans are going to watch the show they know that we all know this. So why bother appealing to them when they can get a bigger audience. It sucks for people that truly do enjoy these universes that this happens to. Also unfortunately some producers and people feel the need to insert politics in places where it does not make sense.
No. He said mass appeal isn't the main priority since it hinder the creator's creative vision. He wants to make the series for the fans,but is acknowledging he won't be able to appeal to every fan.
@@agonizingstarbutterfly1184 watch the last clip they released and give me your honest opinion please, I think is cringe and looks like a kickstarter project, again, imo
let's just remember that none of it is real, the games were just games and the tv show is just a tv show. It's a lot like book vs film, not every book would make a good film if it was just shot like the book. Lets just hope its a good tv show and enjoy it if it is. I hope it is successful enough that we get another great game (hopefully playable in VR) or at least updates to the existing games. Imagine if every fallout game still looked and played like the original from 1997, things change, I think that each of the games has stuff to like and stuff to not like and I expect the show will be no different.
Change is good, I'm not denying that. I just want to see the same kind of attention to detail applied to everything. And as long as the story is well thought out and meaningful, then it can make decisions and changes that go in a new direction.
I just hope they don't "woke" it.
Don't pin your hopes too high, private!
Me when I see black people and women: Waaaah, wokeness is ruining movies!
Have you ever played fallout? It’s the definition of woke my guy it’s an anti war message and there’s always been diversity
@@Vanpiresquidsyou ever heard the phrase “reality is often disappointing”? Game wokeness is different from real life wokeness
@Vanpiresquids I don't think not wanting a nuclear fallout to happen or upset about it should be consider wokeness 💀
6:19 At first, I almost disagreed with your statement here until I realized how much of the game FOCUSES on the NCR, with them having the most developed main quest. While it would be stupid to have the NCR actually win New Vegas without Courier intervention, I feel like the game heavily points the player to working with the NCR, despite their flaws. I just really hope that even if the NCR lost Hoover Dam, they didn't get nuked, as it felt like that nuking both factions was sort of the opposite main message of Lonesome Road, and me personally I just feel it's weird to have the canon ending of New Vegas have the courier side with Bear Bull Bear Bull man's logic, especially considering how there isn't a speech check required for the Ulysses' battle if the player thoroughly explores the Divide. I just really hope they don't make New Vegas' canon ending possibly the worst possible in order to bend backwards for the Brotherhood showing up on the west coast.
I cant wait to see trans black charictors finally represented in fallout they should get rid of all the lore and make it more diverse and by diverse i mean just black. The director said it himself this is not for the fans its for the lgbtq community
Okay come on, I want story to be the main focus as well. But just because he said it wasn't made for fans doesn't mean it'll be terrible. Just wait and see what we get.
Surprise surprise, the guy who can't spell "characters" is bigoted. Nobody could have imagined.
You had me until talk about having ncr ending canon for NV.
Yeah, that part was my NCR bias showing through. After reading the comments and thinking it over, it's clear that the NCR ending wasn't a guarantee.
Oh, I thought they were turning it into a movie.
show writers was the writer for tomb raider 2018 & Captain Marvel... so if you like those....
LOL, il be steering clear
I cannot believe from what I see in the trailer, that the Boneyard is a ghost town. It has been stated in lore NUMEROUS times that the Boneyard is one of the NCR's most thriving and populated cities. This show is going to be terrible. Curse Todd Howard and Amazon for this crap. Fallout is dead.
I feel like Fallout has a very dark and disturbing tone that isn't even always captured in the missions of the games ans that the show just wont portray. It'll be a lighter hearted little survival show with fallout-esq themes and items. If it was faithful to the games, it would be very dark and a horror series. Atlough lot of it I dont even think you could even put on TV..
What do you mean all signs lead to NCR win in NV
That part was more my personal bias since I usually play for the NCR. In actuality, most options result in a weakened NCR unless you side with them.
@@blitzbyte97 You can still make the case that the NCR ending is the most plausible one. Even if they lost at Hoover Dam, the Legion would never overtake the west, since they would suffer all of the same problems the NCR suffered attempting to press eastward, and without the NCR's adaptability.
I’m so excited for this show. Honestly I didn’t even notic the cars n building in the show but now that u point it out it does bother me a bit. I realized Bethesda fallout act on the image of a post apocoyptic 50s but the original fallout was what if those old sci-fi shows n comics were Fr. Not just the image but everything had that retro futuristic aesthetic that go t destroyed during nuclear war. I also don’t want it to be woke. Obviously in fallout u can sleep with the same sex, BUT there’s a difference with that and tryi to shove woke ideals. Cuz let’s be honest… people living in the post apocalypse probably don’t give a fuck about the lgbtq. I’m not knocking it I’m just saying. Nobody would be worrying about that. I’d worry about getting cram to survive.
It’s gonna be garbage just listen to the way they describe the situation of the show will be set in and read how they address the factions and then not the mention we had the classic “we’re not doing this to please fans” like already come out the mouths of the writers this show is already failing in my eyes the majority might like this show heck they might even love it but anyone who knows the deep oxhorn lore of fallout will either say eh it’s alright or it’s hot garbage
I was super excited until they losers at Amizon got their hands on it. I refuse to spend 1 dime on Amazon
Understandable.
just sail the high seas
Let's be realistic, it's Amazon bro- this show is going to SUCK.
I too love the Brotherood of Steel, and sadly this version of them is all wrong. The Brotherhood were never black and red. In Fo3 the outcasts wore black and red to distinguish themselves from the regular BoS. Later Arthur Maxson brought the outcasts back into the fold, and that is why the brotherhood is black & red in Fo4. If this show takes place *before* Fo4 they shouldn't be black and red!
Also it's important to note that Bethesda aren't even consistent in their lore anymore. (So if any of us are expecting Amazon to be so, I think we're dreaming.) I say this because the old BoS never got involved in overworld issues. They were reclusive and horded tech. Elder Lyons and his branch of the Brotherhood broke from this tradition in order to help the wastelanders on the surface. That was the WHOLE reason the outcasts split off in the first place!
After they came back together under Arthur Maxson in Fo4, they too broke from tradition to annihilate all mutants/synths/ghouls in the commonwealth. This makes no sense, since he reabsorbed the outcasts no doubt with a promise of returning to tradition, then he too broke THE SAME TRADITION!
So I already was annoyed by Fo4's brotherhood. And now this show has got them looking like Brotherhood Outcasts again- they even have a red sigil and red gear. That isn't chronologically possible. So the BoS lore is already FUBAR and my guess is it's gonna way be worse than we have already seen. ☠