That emphemeral copy dev comment is a typical RITO patch notes comment... Explains nothing, every sentence is a nonsense and tries to convince you the nerf was actually a buff. "Steady stream of bugs"? Name 1. I played with them maybe thousand times and didn't notice a buggy behavior once. "Work more predictably"? How exactly making the copy only when you play the champion from your hand makes it more predictable than the copy being done every time? "Could be perceived as a nerf"? Yeah sure, nerfing 60 champs a lot and making 3 of them a bit better but with the nerf they're still worse somehow counts as overall buff I guess "Auto-Equip now works the way you want it to" - So when I play Varus it generates 2 weapons? or how do I want it to work? "etc." et what? I'd translate that into common language either as 1) "We've wanted to fix the issue with champion copies stealing their autoequip weapons one from another. We've noticed changing summon to play makes it work as we want and we're too lazy to fix it for summon to keep the interactions so we just replace summon with play. Also we don't care about you having fun or rather after all it's your fault we will break the most enjoyable mechanic in the game because you were disliking the autoequip behaviour." or maybe 2) "We are nerfing the most enjoyable mechanic in the game but before you start being mad about it... look there is 1 specific situation where the change might not be as bad as everywhere else" depending on whether the main reason of the change was nerfing copies or reworking autoequip
Perfectly said, I can't with the bootlickers of Riot not criticizing this absolute nerf, fun summon effects actually made this game fun. I will never forgive them for Gatebreaker and now Shadow totem and Stabilize
Don't forget people, grinding the Monthlies to get a 4-Star Asol is well worth the effort if you just want to grind the harder adventures before you have other Champions at an adequate level. With some luck with powers or items (plenty of cheap Invoke, for example), he can blitz through pretty much anything, even 5+ Star adventures.
Stabilize and Totem nerfs definitely hurt Lillia and Kindred a lot, also Leblanc, so I'm not terribly excited about it, but at least weapon-based champions are a bit less annoying with it. Ahh... guess the Stalker's Blade cheese is a thing of the past now. Jayce's relic - for a lot of aggro champions I'd still go for Crownguard Inheritance. Maybe I'm a bit too sceptical, but this mana refill looks like something they cooked up to help you against Swain-type adventures where you really are at a massive mana and tempo disadvantage and this is something to remedy it. At least it can make planning out the swing turn more interesting.
@@thelorddarkam3563 Previously when you used the sleep mechanic on Lillia, or killed and revived Kindred & they summoned ephemeral copies of themselves, those copies would strike units with the Stalker's Blade relic, but now you can't summon ephemeral copies from waking or resurrecting and also don't prock Stalker's Blade on those because the champions are not played with the change to Stabilize. Same with using the Blade on Leblanc and her hero power or the slow spell that summons copies her, those extra copies used to strike units. I guess the power of 'when you summon a 5+ power unit, it strikes the weakest enemy' gets inadvertantly nerfed for those champions the same way, as well.
This update makes it even clearer the ugly intentions of the designers, Parker is weaker than before at 3 stars after the update, and it must be upgraded to 4 stars to be considered normal. As for Jace, all I can say is that it's rubbish, and the new weekly dungeon and the original item nerfing are even more disgusting
@@tiagoribeiro6069 they're giving a ton of chests now though. don't give up. there are plenty of resources out there. and there are more coming later this year!
You don't actually need constellations for any of the adventures. Especially some of the really strong champs can do them at 3* no problem. But at the same time, I get feeling overwhelmed by the increased pace. At least they increased the rate you get fragments so you can get your champs to 3* faster now
@@heroicskeleton1566 yeah.. do you have 16 "really strong champs" to beat lissandra - for example? ... and does "really strong champs" include their "really strong relics", which cost 15$ each?
@@MrNukedawhales I mean, yeah, you should have 16 really strong champs to do Liss. Newer players shouldn't expect that they can beat it easily. And those p2w epic relics are generally really bad, or super niche, you don't need them
I love that they consistently overhaul and add new Champions, Sadly I'm really not excited for both options in this patch. Pyke feels bad right now and honestly with the changes shown looks even worse off after. Jayce is just not my cup of Tea as I am of the opinion there are enough types of spellslingers and I would like to have something more unique in Playstyle. That said the New Adventures are a great change, can't wait to test them out. Here is to a soon 5.8 and the hope of some more interesting champ choices (for me personally)
Devastated to see the Stabilize/Shadow Totem nerf. Makes those abilities almost useless now. Like there’s still some niche value but a lot of the fun combos are gone now. Sucks.
Thx Toast for that amazing summary! But with regards to the patchnotes: Why the hell do they continue making champ-based epic relics? I just don't get it. Please make more epic relics that are usable for many more champs. Even if some epic relics dedicated to specific champs are usable for others, it always feels sad on a side note that I am missing value on other champs, even if it’s just the +1 starting mana. I would love to see their prioritized backlog. :o
Pyke finally get some change, and this is a massive change for him! But he needs at least 4 stars to active Lurk easily, so this is double-edged I think? New champion Jayce is... I'm not sure, I may underestimate him right now, maybe weaker version of normal Lux? New weekly challenge (nightmare) is okay, I'm fine with being challenged or just use some OP champs to end it quickly xD also it would be good that weekly nightmare will have some source for constellation materials, since we can only get it through monthly and it's not too much Stabilize and Shadow Totem change is reasonable, the way it interact with Deathless and/or some other relics is overwhelming. Though I think the main problem is the Deathless one, just change it to Last Breath with conditions like "If I'm not Ephemeral" and keep the current Stabilize and Shadow Totem, since it worked well for years and it may save some champions from their underwhelming conditions
Pyke seems like a big improvement. Jayce seems like he could be good but his starting deck will really determine how good he is. I like the new weeklies but the minor gemstone reward is really tiresome. That's offered 2x a day for far too much, 70 wins in monthlies, and now the hardest nightmare weekly. Why is the hardest things giving the worst rewards. It's not even major.
STG they brought Jayce, next time you talk to them can you please ask them to bring Viktor to! I've been waiting over 2 years for the hope that they will bring Viktor, can you please ask them in your next interview. Thanks for everything that you do in LoR my friend til the end.
Are the skin bonus in the bundle only in the named bundles? (My point would also be same if it was the blessing etc). If one want to support and buy the biggest bundle to unlock fast the champ he get robbed of the skin and need to buy it separately because they wanted to spend more. There while Pyke buyer need to buy the bigger bundle or they need to buy ot separate. Its weird to me. It would be not if they are consistent. To say "you bought a big bundle thanks,(its not the biggest but nevertheless) here a bonus skin" or "you bought the biggest bundle thanks,(for spending the most because that) here the skin". Im not hit of that, but could imagine its bit frustrating to see others get same bonuses AND the skin, for same money and others spend more money because better bonuses but dont get a skin bonus as the other one.
"It being ephemereal is pretty nice because you dont mind sacrificing to try to lurk" NO! Ephemeral is a stricly negative keyword. If it was not ephemereal you had the option to either try to lurk or keep it as a blocker. How on earth is ephemereal a nice thing.
IMO - EXTREMELY underwhelming rewards for these nightmare weekly challenges. 4.5=Gold Vault. We get plenty of these through other weekly quests. This should be a platinum. 5.5=Silver Star Vessel (Should be Gold). 6.5=MINOR gemstone vessel? The thing we get almost daily in the emporium? How about a diamond vault, or a MAJOR Gemstone vessel? I'd prefer something with guaranteed Nova Shards or (call me greedy) a Nova Crystal. It's 6.5 STAR CHALLENGE! But a MINOR Gemstone vessel? The gemstone powers aren't even that good! Why make this the best reward? It makes contextual sense as well. Beat a 6+ Star adventure to get 6-star currency. These appear to be extremely difficult challenges that we only get 1/week, and the rewards are comparable to basic daily/weekly quests. I could do these for months and still never have a single champion get that 6th star without some very lucky RNG. I'm all for them adding micro-transactions to the game; but I'm starting to get the sense that without spending HUNDREDS of dollars, you will ultimately NEVER get a single champ to 6-star, because the aren't giving F2P players any reasonable rewards. Everything is a small amount of currently for a random champion. Really disappointing in my opinion.
Yeah, most resources are obtainable, EXCEPT the Nova Crystal. UInless I'm missing something, there doesn't currently seem to be a way to get it without buying one. Or can you get shards through the Monthlies?
@@RenegadeVile You can convert 100 Shards into a Nova Crystal. However, they must be the correct region. So far, the only way to obtain them is to buy them (the package is expensive) or get them through Star-Vessels. A silver star-vessel has a CHANCE of giving you about 20, for a random region. However, it is a low chance to produce them, and not many opportunities to get Star-Vessels in F2P. The way I see it, it would be a VERY long time for a F2P player to get even a single character to 6-star. However, the prices of these packs are so high that only Whales can really afford them regularly. I'm not against paying for stuff sometimes; but we're talking about $100 EACH pack. Dunno about you, but I can't afford that! So I'm stuck between F2P with a grind so long that I'll become numb to it and give up...or go broke.
@@mto1506 I'm not disputing that getting someone to 6-stars right now is either incredibly grindy or nearly impossible. But no adventure they've made so far really requires you to have anyone at 6-Stars. If anything, a lot of the content kind of becomes trivial at that point because those powers are insanely OP on some of the champions. I've got quite a few champions at 4-stars right now and can comfortably do most content, except adventures that happen to hard-counter a given Champion. I'm not saying it SHOULD be impossible, but you're kind of focusing on those 6-star powers like something you need, but it really isn't. I would stil llike some extra ways of getting more shards though. I believe the Weekly Nightmares give some, so that's a good start. The prices of some of the bundles are definitely absurd. I usually buy the basic bundles as champions are released. They're still pricey but I mainly buy those to support the game. Anything higher I just don't purchase because it's too costly. Focusing on getting some good 4-stars and maybe the Mana Flow power for your favorite champions is probably a better use of your time than grinding for Nova shards. Oftentimes, that already feels like a great power boost. Ashe with her 4-star, for example, gets a huge spike in power. Other champions get useful keywords like Overwhelm on all their units, which often frees up a relic slot for more variety in builds too.
I hope Riot creates a Champion sorting feature, making it easier to sort champions from the lowest star rating or alphabetically.
oh im so happy, i told support about the all region star powers not working and they managed to fix them. gj riot
That emphemeral copy dev comment is a typical RITO patch notes comment... Explains nothing, every sentence is a nonsense and tries to convince you the nerf was actually a buff.
"Steady stream of bugs"? Name 1. I played with them maybe thousand times and didn't notice a buggy behavior once.
"Work more predictably"? How exactly making the copy only when you play the champion from your hand makes it more predictable than the copy being done every time?
"Could be perceived as a nerf"? Yeah sure, nerfing 60 champs a lot and making 3 of them a bit better but with the nerf they're still worse somehow counts as overall buff I guess
"Auto-Equip now works the way you want it to" - So when I play Varus it generates 2 weapons? or how do I want it to work?
"etc." et what?
I'd translate that into common language either as
1) "We've wanted to fix the issue with champion copies stealing their autoequip weapons one from another. We've noticed changing summon to play makes it work as we want and we're too lazy to fix it for summon to keep the interactions so we just replace summon with play. Also we don't care about you having fun or rather after all it's your fault we will break the most enjoyable mechanic in the game because you were disliking the autoequip behaviour."
or maybe
2) "We are nerfing the most enjoyable mechanic in the game but before you start being mad about it... look there is 1 specific situation where the change might not be as bad as everywhere else"
depending on whether the main reason of the change was nerfing copies or reworking autoequip
Perfectly said, I can't with the bootlickers of Riot not criticizing this absolute nerf, fun summon effects actually made this game fun. I will never forgive them for Gatebreaker and now Shadow totem and Stabilize
Don't forget people, grinding the Monthlies to get a 4-Star Asol is well worth the effort if you just want to grind the harder adventures before you have other Champions at an adequate level. With some luck with powers or items (plenty of cheap Invoke, for example), he can blitz through pretty much anything, even 5+ Star adventures.
I want more 3 star adventures bruh
No increase to Legend level cap? Sadge.
id like to support the game, but the pricing is off the rails and again no season pass etc.
Well Pyke seems balance but now absolute sucks until 4 star
What a nerf even if they fix the Lurk spell
Thnx man, appreciate the work, saying this from the bottom of my heart
Stabilize and Totem nerfs definitely hurt Lillia and Kindred a lot, also Leblanc, so I'm not terribly excited about it, but at least weapon-based champions are a bit less annoying with it. Ahh... guess the Stalker's Blade cheese is a thing of the past now. Jayce's relic - for a lot of aggro champions I'd still go for Crownguard Inheritance. Maybe I'm a bit too sceptical, but this mana refill looks like something they cooked up to help you against Swain-type adventures where you really are at a massive mana and tempo disadvantage and this is something to remedy it. At least it can make planning out the swing turn more interesting.
What Stalker blade is changed ?
@@thelorddarkam3563 no more phantom copy after summon champs --> SB more useless
@@thelorddarkam3563 Previously when you used the sleep mechanic on Lillia, or killed and revived Kindred & they summoned ephemeral copies of themselves, those copies would strike units with the Stalker's Blade relic, but now you can't summon ephemeral copies from waking or resurrecting and also don't prock Stalker's Blade on those because the champions are not played with the change to Stabilize. Same with using the Blade on Leblanc and her hero power or the slow spell that summons copies her, those extra copies used to strike units. I guess the power of 'when you summon a 5+ power unit, it strikes the weakest enemy' gets inadvertantly nerfed for those champions the same way, as well.
I would say though, it _is_ still somewhat playable although not as broken as it is before...
Leblanc, Lillia, and stalkers blade were all top tier even without shadow totem... this changes nothing really
This update makes it even clearer the ugly intentions of the designers, Parker is weaker than before at 3 stars after the update, and it must be upgraded to 4 stars to be considered normal.
As for Jace, all I can say is that it's rubbish, and the new weekly dungeon and the original item nerfing are even more disgusting
Game is getting harder and harder when i only have 1 4star champ and few epic relics… I’m getting left behind every patch 😂
And that's why I quit. I just don't have patience to play every single day to have 5 miserable star fragments
@@tiagoribeiro6069 they're giving a ton of chests now though. don't give up. there are plenty of resources out there. and there are more coming later this year!
You don't actually need constellations for any of the adventures. Especially some of the really strong champs can do them at 3* no problem. But at the same time, I get feeling overwhelmed by the increased pace. At least they increased the rate you get fragments so you can get your champs to 3* faster now
@@heroicskeleton1566 yeah.. do you have 16 "really strong champs" to beat lissandra - for example? ... and does "really strong champs" include their "really strong relics", which cost 15$ each?
@@MrNukedawhales I mean, yeah, you should have 16 really strong champs to do Liss. Newer players shouldn't expect that they can beat it easily. And those p2w epic relics are generally really bad, or super niche, you don't need them
I really hope the 4.5 has a gold reliquary or vault, I'm still missing some epic relics and some champions fragments.
Heads up, the link in the description sends you to Patch 5.6, not 5.7.
Thanks, I forgot to change it.
I love that they consistently overhaul and add new Champions, Sadly I'm really not excited for both options in this patch. Pyke feels bad right now and honestly with the changes shown looks even worse off after. Jayce is just not my cup of Tea as I am of the opinion there are enough types of spellslingers and I would like to have something more unique in Playstyle.
That said the New Adventures are a great change, can't wait to test them out.
Here is to a soon 5.8 and the hope of some more interesting champ choices (for me personally)
Devastated to see the Stabilize/Shadow Totem nerf. Makes those abilities almost useless now. Like there’s still some niche value but a lot of the fun combos are gone now. Sucks.
Yooooo pyke buff lets goooo
Ironalically, I think Pyke's epic relic is going to be much better on Rek'Sai (when she comes out) than him.
Brooo they are making even MORE 4 5 6 STARS ADVENTURES
Why they cant put like SILVER CHESTS relics because im in 4 stars lol not even 5 is hilarious
Pyke nerf probably needs 6 star now I'm kind of disappointed. My favorite champion is Pyke.
just needs 4 star and that 4+ cost being lurker thing basically all units become lurker anyways
I have no materials for that bro :c
@@Riishaii wait
@@Agent-KD6-3.7 the draw was moved to 6 stars which is sucks since we didnt need to worry about draw before
Not really. 4 star, and a couple nodes should make him extremely good. His 6th star is very meh and almost a waste of a nova imo
Thx Toast for that amazing summary! But with regards to the patchnotes: Why the hell do they continue making champ-based epic relics? I just don't get it. Please make more epic relics that are usable for many more champs. Even if some epic relics dedicated to specific champs are usable for others, it always feels sad on a side note that I am missing value on other champs, even if it’s just the +1 starting mana. I would love to see their prioritized backlog. :o
riot nerfing a fun combo is lame
Bummer about them fixing volibear to only give regen instead of also tough. Fair play though
Pyke finally get some change, and this is a massive change for him! But he needs at least 4 stars to active Lurk easily, so this is double-edged I think?
New champion Jayce is... I'm not sure, I may underestimate him right now, maybe weaker version of normal Lux?
New weekly challenge (nightmare) is okay, I'm fine with being challenged or just use some OP champs to end it quickly xD also it would be good that weekly nightmare will have some source for constellation materials, since we can only get it through monthly and it's not too much
Stabilize and Shadow Totem change is reasonable, the way it interact with Deathless and/or some other relics is overwhelming. Though I think the main problem is the Deathless one, just change it to Last Breath with conditions like "If I'm not Ephemeral" and keep the current Stabilize and Shadow Totem, since it worked well for years and it may save some champions from their underwhelming conditions
Pyke seems like a big improvement. Jayce seems like he could be good but his starting deck will really determine how good he is. I like the new weeklies but the minor gemstone reward is really tiresome. That's offered 2x a day for far too much, 70 wins in monthlies, and now the hardest nightmare weekly. Why is the hardest things giving the worst rewards. It's not even major.
Omg they killed the only viable Teemo combo and didn't give him a constellation. R. I. P my little yordle((
I wasnt expecting 6 stars Jayce, Im more of a Janna enjoyer. Still waiting for Kayle or Aphelios to spend all my Targon shards.
They did say they were going to try and introduce a new Champion each patch, and then give one-to-two other champions their Constellations.
STG they brought Jayce, next time you talk to them can you please ask them to bring Viktor to! I've been waiting over 2 years for the hope that they will bring Viktor, can you please ask them in your next interview. Thanks for everything that you do in LoR my friend til the end.
They really need to lower the new adventures not everyone can defeat those nightmare weekly
Are the skin bonus in the bundle only in the named bundles? (My point would also be same if it was the blessing etc). If one want to support and buy the biggest bundle to unlock fast the champ he get robbed of the skin and need to buy it separately because they wanted to spend more. There while Pyke buyer need to buy the bigger bundle or they need to buy ot separate. Its weird to me. It would be not if they are consistent. To say "you bought a big bundle thanks,(its not the biggest but nevertheless) here a bonus skin" or "you bought the biggest bundle thanks,(for spending the most because that) here the skin". Im not hit of that, but could imagine its bit frustrating to see others get same bonuses AND the skin, for same money and others spend more money because better bonuses but dont get a skin bonus as the other one.
still no news for battle pass? SAD
I believe they're working on them for next patch. It was said in an interview.
so... they nerfed pike?
No
They made him interesting
He still gets his past star powers as bonus stars in his constellations
@@mariannapapikyan4123 Yeah but base 3 star pyke might be worse because hard af to trigger plunder. I still very much like the redesign though
@@mariannapapikyan4123 yes, but until then he is inconsistent and much more weak, and probably not fun.
@@pamonja4301 they did increase the chance to get lurkers in adventures. And a +2/+1 buff is something
@@pamonja4301 Pyke was never fun
Hextech Battery could be good for nidalee too right?
if it works for multiple level ups even evelyn can abuse it
Yes
@@Ahmad2000z I left out her and gnar because they're round start/end so the mana is wasted
@@BLiteG evelyn does not level on round start but when killing a husk through playing a unit
@@Ahmad2000z you're right. Smol brain moment.
"It being ephemereal is pretty nice because you dont mind sacrificing to try to lurk"
NO! Ephemeral is a stricly negative keyword. If it was not ephemereal you had the option to either try to lurk or keep it as a blocker. How on earth is ephemereal a nice thing.
Strictly? Ephemeral works well with support champs like hecarim
@@enzoapacible1083 You mean "with hecarim" instead of "like hecarim", and that is one ridiculously unlikely scenario.
@@modernatheism still wouldnt be “strictly” negative would it?
Damn if we could frfr build decks... imagine Jayce with Lux...
IMO - EXTREMELY underwhelming rewards for these nightmare weekly challenges.
4.5=Gold Vault. We get plenty of these through other weekly quests. This should be a platinum.
5.5=Silver Star Vessel (Should be Gold).
6.5=MINOR gemstone vessel? The thing we get almost daily in the emporium? How about a diamond vault, or a MAJOR Gemstone vessel? I'd prefer something with guaranteed Nova Shards or (call me greedy) a Nova Crystal. It's 6.5 STAR CHALLENGE! But a MINOR Gemstone vessel? The gemstone powers aren't even that good! Why make this the best reward? It makes contextual sense as well. Beat a 6+ Star adventure to get 6-star currency.
These appear to be extremely difficult challenges that we only get 1/week, and the rewards are comparable to basic daily/weekly quests. I could do these for months and still never have a single champion get that 6th star without some very lucky RNG.
I'm all for them adding micro-transactions to the game; but I'm starting to get the sense that without spending HUNDREDS of dollars, you will ultimately NEVER get a single champ to 6-star, because the aren't giving F2P players any reasonable rewards. Everything is a small amount of currently for a random champion.
Really disappointing in my opinion.
Yeah, most resources are obtainable, EXCEPT the Nova Crystal. UInless I'm missing something, there doesn't currently seem to be a way to get it without buying one. Or can you get shards through the Monthlies?
@@RenegadeVile You can convert 100 Shards into a Nova Crystal. However, they must be the correct region. So far, the only way to obtain them is to buy them (the package is expensive) or get them through Star-Vessels. A silver star-vessel has a CHANCE of giving you about 20, for a random region. However, it is a low chance to produce them, and not many opportunities to get Star-Vessels in F2P. The way I see it, it would be a VERY long time for a F2P player to get even a single character to 6-star. However, the prices of these packs are so high that only Whales can really afford them regularly. I'm not against paying for stuff sometimes; but we're talking about $100 EACH pack. Dunno about you, but I can't afford that! So I'm stuck between F2P with a grind so long that I'll become numb to it and give up...or go broke.
@@mto1506 I'm not disputing that getting someone to 6-stars right now is either incredibly grindy or nearly impossible. But no adventure they've made so far really requires you to have anyone at 6-Stars. If anything, a lot of the content kind of becomes trivial at that point because those powers are insanely OP on some of the champions. I've got quite a few champions at 4-stars right now and can comfortably do most content, except adventures that happen to hard-counter a given Champion. I'm not saying it SHOULD be impossible, but you're kind of focusing on those 6-star powers like something you need, but it really isn't.
I would stil llike some extra ways of getting more shards though. I believe the Weekly Nightmares give some, so that's a good start.
The prices of some of the bundles are definitely absurd. I usually buy the basic bundles as champions are released. They're still pricey but I mainly buy those to support the game. Anything higher I just don't purchase because it's too costly.
Focusing on getting some good 4-stars and maybe the Mana Flow power for your favorite champions is probably a better use of your time than grinding for Nova shards. Oftentimes, that already feels like a great power boost. Ashe with her 4-star, for example, gets a huge spike in power. Other champions get useful keywords like Overwhelm on all their units, which often frees up a relic slot for more variety in builds too.
Well my Aurelion 4 star will carry me to get all free rewards In nightmare weekly xDD
That's what I like about ASol, he guarantees that you'll be able to do some of the high level stuff no matter what.
Only you need get the power that give you a create card in hand at start of turn and GG xDDD
@@Mekaizer Even without it's possible. But yeah, getting something like Time and Dedication, plus a -1 discount on all spells is essentially auto-win.