Anne Boleyn WHO DID SHE THINK SHE WAS ? and On to 1521 - Henry VIII, An Old Tale of Wives Ep. 2

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  • čas přidán 20. 01. 2021
  • History Documentary - Anne Boleyn - Who Did She Think She Was?
    Why is Anne Boleyn so famous, almost as famous as Henry VIII himself?
    After all, Henry was married to Catherine for something like twenty-one, or even twenty-seven years, depending on which criteria you use to determine the marriage's end.
    Was she a marriage breaker or the unfortunate wife of a cruel, tyrannical king?
    Or perhaps her role in the reign of Henry VIII is overstated to a point where history itself is distorted.
    Well, for the time being at least, we are where we are. To some, Henry's wives and Anne de Boleyn, in particular, are the most important factors to consider during the reign.
    In this, the second episode titled Anne de Boulogne and onto 1521 we will do as the title says, and take a first look at the enigma who was Henry's first queen.
    ​And then, in 1521 the plots for which the reign is famous or infamous begin to emerge, so we complete our back story which involves the events and the people who took centre stage.

Komentáře • 40

  • @tembry6886
    @tembry6886 Před 11 měsíci +5

    I've been reading or watching videos or listening to audiobooks on Henry VIII for over 60 years (when I write that down I really feel my age!).
    What really intrigues me about Anne Boleyn is her relationship to France. There's tidbits here and there with things like Henry VIII saying Anne was "corrupted" from her time in France (does that mean sex or something else entirely?) ,then Anne begging the French Ambassador or Secretary for help, and even that Anne's execution was for treason not an affair.
    We know Henry was extremely angry at the French towards the end of Anne's reign. Just seems something more is there, not affairs or Jane, something more that we don't know.
    So many histories about Anne make her out to be a Saint one documentary presenter acted like she might faint just touching Anne's prayer book!
    I don't think she was 100% innocent.
    Her personality during her lifetime was a haughty, cruel, egotistical, spiteful person that no-one liked! Not her kinsmen, not even her father not the people at court or Henry's friends or the people of England! What changed? Elizabeth I.
    Still, her own daughter didn't speak much about her or move her remains to a monument or anything.
    There just this one sided view and I think that's not enough to tell the whole story and I think her ties to France may've been part of her downfall.
    Thank you for all the online articles and videos much more informative than seeing another drooling article on "Saint" Anne instead of her background as a person, interesting figure in history but certainly not a Saint.

    • @markholinshed9467
      @markholinshed9467 Před 11 měsíci

      Many thanks.
      Well said. I'm in full agreement with you!
      You might be interested in the latest Video, 'Anne Boleyn Queen by Trickery' Episode 7 . czcams.com/video/ZUcXia7sxi4/video.html. It is much about the 'French connection' and her fall.
      Episode 8 due in September will be called called 'The Royal Tour of 1535 and the Ruin of Anne Boleyn'.
      👍

    • @jmmcgee3509
      @jmmcgee3509 Před 5 měsíci

      I agree she’s sometimes idealized these days. I like your idea that there may have been something more to her execution that we don’t know, possibly something to do with France. A lot of history went up the chimney from that era!

  • @gillianbrookwell1678
    @gillianbrookwell1678 Před 3 lety +6

    I have always been intrigued with British and European history, and was often singled out at school for being boring and not much fun; Love the music you are playing through this series.

    • @markholinshedshistorydocum9938
      @markholinshedshistorydocum9938  Před 3 lety +4

      History is great fun Gillian - it's about how we all got here in the first place!

    • @harrietharlow9929
      @harrietharlow9929 Před 3 lety +2

      Glad I'm not alone. I was, and am, a Tudor History buff. And Mark is right: history is great fun. Life was never dull at Henry's Court.

    • @harrietharlow9929
      @harrietharlow9929 Před 2 lety

      I love the music especially that of the Henrician era. The soundtrack to this is of course, of a later era but wonderful all the same.

  • @harrietharlow9929
    @harrietharlow9929 Před 2 lety +2

    Very well done! The reign of Henry VIII is one of my interests since it set the stage for the three following reigns. This series gave me more insights.

    • @markholinshedshistorydocum9938
      @markholinshedshistorydocum9938  Před 2 lety

      Many thanks, Harriet, more to follow. I hope the series does go some way to set the scene for the three following reigns. My concluding remarks in the very last episode are or will be, that King Edward Seymour, Queen Mary Trastámara and Queen Elizabeth Boleyn were very much their respective mother's children. There is precious little of Henry VIII and Tudor in any of them!

  • @KatjamiErosEa
    @KatjamiErosEa Před 3 lety +4

    I've watched all of your videos and they are delightful.

  • @lynnereyes5125
    @lynnereyes5125 Před 3 lety +5

    This videos are the best better than we were taught in school

    • @markholinshedshistorydocum9938
      @markholinshedshistorydocum9938  Před 3 lety +3

      Thanks, Lynne - that's an encouragement to keep making them! Much of British and European belongs just as much to many Americans

    • @cplmpcocptcl6306
      @cplmpcocptcl6306 Před 3 lety

      I see you weren’t taught English either.

    • @harrietharlow9929
      @harrietharlow9929 Před 3 lety +2

      @@markholinshedshistorydocum9938 I've studied Henry's reign extensively and I still learn new things when I watch your videos.

  • @annkelly0072
    @annkelly0072 Před 3 lety +4

    Where's episode 3?!
    Great videos so far!

  • @shellyreena2192
    @shellyreena2192 Před 2 lety +1

    Mozart perfect music choice. I love maps n that map of East/West divide I'd like to see much closer. 😀 However couldn't send, fwd, add, detach. Or anything. Can I please have a download or something so I can just look at it for longer than 20 seconds? Thank you so much 🙂

  • @wednesdayschild3627
    @wednesdayschild3627 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Queen Isabella gave Catherine jewelry and Anne demanded it. So Henry stole Catherine's things. Anne demanded the christening gown that Isabella gave Catherine. Henry also stole Wolseys property. Anne was a theological lightweight. The Boleyns painted themselves into a corner.

  • @stevenleslie8557
    @stevenleslie8557 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Thomas Cromwell saw what she did to his master Wolsey and didn't want to be in her crosshairs given she had the King's ear, so he moved on her when she was in a vulnerable position.

    • @wednesdayschild3627
      @wednesdayschild3627 Před 8 měsíci

      It is probably just my thoughts. Anne got what she deserved. She was yelling about killing Mary and promised a son, which was completely irrational. Nobody can promise that. Francis said Elizabeth could not marry his son. Oh and then making a dumb comment about Henry's death and yelling about beheading Cromwell.

  • @wednesdayschild3627
    @wednesdayschild3627 Před 8 měsíci +1

    The confusion of king and religion might go back to the celts. The Latins and Greeks had a separation of government and religion. The celts not so much.

  • @taylorjones3530
    @taylorjones3530 Před 3 lety +2

    The cliffhanger on this one 😫😫😫

  • @margarettaft7362
    @margarettaft7362 Před 3 lety +4

    What does the war between Queen Matilda and King Stephen 1130s 40s have to do with Henry 8 and his marital problems 400 years later? Nothing. What’s this video about? king Stephen’s civil war or Henry 8?

    • @TheKoolbraider
      @TheKoolbraider Před 3 lety +4

      Follow the history that led to the Wars of the Roses. It all began with Stephen and Mathilda fighting for the right to rule in the 1100's. You'll find Henry II, Beckett, Richard, and on to Henry.

    • @harrietharlow9929
      @harrietharlow9929 Před 3 lety +2

      @@TheKoolbraider Often seeing the bigger picture not only makes for context but also gives one deeper insights. One of Henry's reasons for wanting a male heir was that he believed that a woman could not hold the English Throne--His own daughter, Elizabeth proved him wrong, but that's another story.

    • @TheKoolbraider
      @TheKoolbraider Před 3 lety +3

      @@harrietharlow9929 Read Ruth Goodman's new book "How to Behave Badly in Elizabethan England". Women were indeed considered weak and inefficient. This is why Mathilda wasn't accepted as the true ruler. But I think it's a delicious irony that Elizabeth came from Henry's search for a wife to give him sons.

  • @margarettaft7362
    @margarettaft7362 Před 3 lety +3

    Edward 1 conquered Wales between 1273 and 1288, almost 300 years before Henry 8. This narrator is just jumping and rambling around. Matilda Stephen civil war 400 years before Henry 8. Almost nothing about Anne Boleyn.

  • @p_nk7279
    @p_nk7279 Před 2 lety

    But why are you constantly mispronouncing her name? And the voice on this video is cr*p

    • @markholinshedshistorydocum9938
      @markholinshedshistorydocum9938  Před 2 lety

      Mispronouncing her name? I'm not aware of that. Where might that be?

    • @stayclean777
      @stayclean777 Před 6 měsíci

      @@markholinshedshistorydocum9938I've never heard her referred to as Ann "Boloin" (as in pork "loin") or "de Boloin"/"de Boulognya" (I suppose these are the "French" mispronunciations) by anyone else. It's an unnecessary and annoying distraction to your otherwise interesting perspective.
      Oddly, you eschew "Bullen", the usual choice for those seemingly undazzled by Anne Boleyn's enduring allure.
      Well, each to his own...as you said in a different context👍

  • @khankrum1
    @khankrum1 Před 3 lety +1

    That's odd. I theough they where black! That is what the BBC says!