Rogue Tower, A Procedurally-Generated Tower Defense
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- Rogue Tower - Originally streamed 1/16/23
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0:00 - Intro
0:50 - Phase 1
21:15 - Phase 2
44:12 - Phase 3
1:09:00 - Outro - Hry
"it's bound to be boring, long, and above all awful"
singlehandedly the greatest intro to any video on CZcams
Immediately made me want to watch the whole thing
Exactly what I was looking for, 10/10
literally instantly hooked
I do like how honest he is with games like this. He doesn't just hand wave the bad for the sake of doing it
Yup
One thing that likely hurt the run is the amount of towers types you picked up. Flooding the upgrade pool so finding the mana bank was less likely to show up.
he skipped alot of balista upgrades just to fish for towers. The radar tower early would have been huge as its range is MASSIVE, just let it level on its own. Mana banks are nice but leaning heavily on mana based towers will kill you. How many of his towers didn't fire thanks to low mana when he could have used a ballista just to act as a softener that leveled on its own?
@@Solus749 Yeah, seeing those mana reserves run dry’s brutal.
@@Solus749 Radar tower is too unreliable imo. when it hits it does great damage, but it takes a long time to align before shooting. A few radars can be good for supporting the rest of your turrets, but at that point why not just use the regular turrets ? But you're 100% right about the mana. SO many ballistas-only runs i lost because i got reckless and picked manabolts 😆
@@vallougomoulou5945 I think he means so early, they would do a lot more than the stuff early on that is never in range.
@@mandowarrior123 yup, I rather have 1-3 radar towers that can hit the entire area ( depending on size ) and soften things than 4 towers that don't shoot for 60% of the time.
Am I gonna count on them being my main killers? Nope, neither am I going to push level ups on them but they level on their own anyway softening enemies for my main towers to kill.
Its fun seeing AA play smaller games like this, hope he checks out yomi hustle when it hits steam
Homi Yustle!!! very nice game I agree 200% with your condolences
Flame towers and sprayers do damage to everything in a line, not single target. It's best to put them on progress and next to long straight sections so they hit the most enemies. Obliterator and particle cannon are your single target options.
Or radar
I disagree, imo the best use of the poison/fire sprayers are to chew the shield/armor so your other turrets can deal damage directly to health. The spray to other units is nice but not as good as having a specialised shield or armor damage sprayer
@@vallougomoulou5945 That's not what I'm talking about. I'm saying by targeting them on Most Shield/Armor he's giving up on total DPS, single target DPS is unaffected. Focusing on highest shield/armor focuses on one guy as they move around the tower, whereas focusing on progress allows you to keep it pointed in one direction and orient the tower so it hits everyone in a line. Go ahead and upgrade that thing to the moon.
@@vallougomoulou5945 I think you misunderstood the original comment.
@@nathangamble125 @dandandandandanJr "it's best to put them (sprayers) on progress". This. This is what i disagree with. the proposed positionning is fine, but you still want the sprayers to focus the ennemies with highest amount of armor/shield. The aoe damage will happen naturally anyways
To be fair, it might not be needed in a regular playthrough. I'm used to having only one type of turret (for achievement farming), but in those cases, the strategy you proposed was not enough (enemies with huge shield/armor bar passed through basically unscathed, and sprayer overall dps was lower)
"I'm not going to chop the trees now because they will keep growing"
*Keeps trees alive the entire game*
AA, I'm not sure if anyone actually said it during the livestream, but since you asked: The vampire enemies are likely a reference to Strahd Von Zarovich, who is the main villain of multiple D&D adventures, board games, and even an old video game from the 90s. To my knowledge his most recent appearance is in the 5th edition campaign "Curse of Strahd"
Frost keeps killed your mana, they use it even with no enemies. Mortars fire really slow, probably would have made more sense to upg fire towers. More towers is probably better then spam-upgrading. But the biggest mistake I think you make is having everything target most armor/health/shield only. You want towers attacking different enemies not the same target, and most importantly you have to realize that after you damage something even a little bit your tower is going to immediately switch targets because it no longer has the most whatever. It's good to have some towers like flame/poison target least whatever because it makes them target the front of the pack, but not necessarily the one furthest ahead.
9:50 i have played D.O.T. builds a lot and here is a tip on flamethrowers and poison spayers:
sometimes, the best spots for them are on ground lvl. they deal dmg over their full range, so what you want is to have them blast it down a lane, to cover as much of it as possible.
no priority other than the default "progress" needed, since they are going to hit every passing target for as long as possible.
that first flamethrower of yours is definitely sitting in one of the worst spots for its type of attack. projectile weapons like ballista and shredder, or area covering towers like the frost keep and encampment would need that one.
the flamethrower in that area would work much better if placed to the upper left of that ore.
I play too much of this game, I had developed an eye twitch when he put that flamethrower there. He has the fundamentals, but not the finer details of the game it seems. And I need to chill out :P
The spraying is overrated imo. the best use i find for poison and flame throwers is to shred specifically shield and armor. and the dots are really bad unless you have the big upgrades for it, like +10% crit chance against bleeding enemies, and poison slowing them.
From the looks of things, the mortars went for things still with shields because they had the most armour left, which meant things with less armour than the bosses just went straight through the mortars without much hindrance because of different focuses
yeah he needed to put like most armor and then progress so they hit the front running enemies who usually have shields stripped by then instead of all three priorities being most armor its why his sprayers were less effective than they could have been as well.
Yes, his priorities were badly set up. he probably didn't know , the first condition is the top priority, then if there are multiple targets who are available, it picks the next condition on top of it, and so on. If there are still muliple possible targets after all conditions have been applied, it targets the one with the most progress.
SO, applying the same condition multiple times is useless; what he could have done instead, is set up "Least shield > least armor > most health" for turrets with high health damage, "Least shield > most armor > whatever" for armor damage, and "most shield > whatever" for shield damage turrets. That's the base targetting i usually go for.
Oh and last thing, the shredders, due to how they work, should be "least shield > least armor > progress" to shoot the first enemy, and cover more ground with the blade movement
The targeting priority is evaluated top to bottom, no need to set them all to the same thing, it's only for ties.
Counterintuitively, naturally weak or short range turrets get the biggest buff from being on hilltops. The +value is a flat bonus to both range in squares and base damage before level multipliers.
the +value of the hills is a 1/1 bonus to damage, but only 1/2 for range: you'll need to put a turret on a +2 hill to get one full square of range... unless you count the bonus of the range by the diameter, and not by the radius like i instinctually did :p
Balistas turn a certain colour not with leveling up, but with upgrades which give additional burning/bleeding/poison damage. :)
Not sure if anyone's mentioned it, but the bubble gum reference is probably from Duke Nukem, "I'm here to kick ass and chew bubble gum, and I'm all outta bubble gum", which according to Google originally comes from the 1988 movie They Live!
great movie highly recommend They Live
RIP Roddy Piper
I love how you understood Polyphemus, but thought BB-Hate was a reference to BB King instead of BB-8 from Star Wars. It shows sophistication. The boss names in this game are great.
I am so surprised at how entertainment your commentary is for a vod, would have guessed this to be a recording
Love your content! I typically have you in the background while I study, and do my schoolwork. Believe it or not but your earlier philosophical content inspired me to pursue a bachelor’s degree. I became a subscriber because of that, but stayed for the absolute amazing content. Keep up the fantastic work AA and don’t be afraid to take breaks!
Do you have a link to anything you liked?
I'd be interested to know where to look for that. The earliest video I could find was the "Rogue Legacy episode 1", which doesn't sound philosophy related ^^"
@@raphaeld9270 If you check out his normal channel, and not the VODs then you can find it. Torsolo comes to mind but its not specifically philosophical. I would have to do some digging to find the specific videos myself. 😅
His videos just lit a fire under me I guess to do better in my own life.
there's a chance the enemy shouting "bat!" may be a reference to the what we do in the shadows tv show, where one of the vampires shouts bat every time he transforms into a bat
Seeing him talk about Knights of the Old Republic and HK-47. This brings me a great joy. Very accomplished game all around.
Your target priority could use a little bit of work :P Also I HIGHLY suggest the particle accelerator. P.A. + shredder can beat most things. Mortars for early armor shred, but once you get enough P.A. or shredders you dont even need those.
"I'm worried you'll think I'm boring" haha such a good line. This game does look very interesting though
"I'm all out of bubble gum" actually is a reference to an 80's movie, which was then re-used in Duke Nukem
> who is yaga baba
> In Slavic folklore, Baba Yaga, also spelled Baba Jaga (from Polish), is a supernatural being (or one of a trio of sisters of the same name) who appears as a deformed and/or ferocious-looking woman. In fairy tales Baba Yaga flies around in a mortar, wields a pestle, and dwells deep in the forest in a hut usually described as standing on a chicken leg.
Oh man I really love the soundtrack of this game, the way it goes calm when in building phase but goes back to crazy drums when being attacked
For the record, BiBi Love was a psycho in Dead Rising 2 who you could save if you played along. She was an old singer who was past her prime trying to claw her way into the spotlight again when the outbreak occurs, becoming unhinged in the process.
As was mentioned below, upgrades add colors:
Blue is poison
Orange is fire
Red is bleed
Generally it's easier if just 2-4 towers are picked, since each tower, or some buildings gets added to the draw stack. Aka, "poisoning the well"
Also, universities make a HUGE difference.
Universities can screw you over, too. A big difference to aoe towers of course though.
Thunderstore mod manager is what you need for this game to easily mod it.
Also if you hold shift you hold onto the tower keeping you from constantly clicking to the tower then putting others down.
Ah I played this a good while ago and found it extremely addictive in a mediocre sort of way.
A similar feeling to what I got from playing WC3 customs for twelve hours straight back in the day.
Excited to watch this through and see your horribly boring, long and awful thoughts.
God damn those were the days... Its amazing how many entire game genres those maps spawned.
There's something incredibly satisfying about seeing your towers burn down hordes of enemies.
"addictive in a mediocre sort of way" is the best backhanded compliment I've seen in a while
@@GraveFable25 agreed, agreed! Giving users access to the engine for custom stuff like that is such an important concept for keeping things healthy. It's sad how little that happens nowadays. Neverwinter Nights, WC3, SC2, etc. Keeps people engaged and building a community.
I love all the long vods 🥺
The BB-Hate boss is a reference to BB-8 from the newer Star Wars trilogy. The guy talking about bubblegum is a reference to Roddy Piper in the movie "They Live!" in which he says: "I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass...and I'm all out of bubblegum."
That early round tower radar would have been clutch. Its extremely powerful and doesnt use mana
I've had this on my wish list for about 3 months now and now I can finally get an amphibian point of view.
Such a great intro to the VOD.
Dude gets a god map, loses. Reaction : “we had horrible rng”
When you set towers to Most Armor > Most Armor > Most Armor, that's the same as Most Armor > Progress > Progress. Give 'Least Shield > Most Armor > Most Health' a try for your flamethrowers so they'll hit the most armored units that aren't shielded.
I enjoyed watching this game more than I expected. Very relaxing but simultaneously interesting.
I got ptsd from the chicken in wheels because I thought they were the wheel skeletons from dark souls.
placing towers on the sides of straight roads instead of in the middle of that insanely juicy windy road near the beginning that could cover both sides was driving me nuts
This is a very nice game. I'm a fan of those path tower defenses and have watched more of this one before. You're very lucky to have such a long one-way path haha!
Here's a pro tip. If you want to maximize tower efficiency try to make sure that it covers the most path possible and target earlier towers to the strongest enemy.
If i can make some "free" time for myself, i ll give advice. You made it really far with so many bad choices, im amazed. I played on a lot older version, but even that knowledge can be useful.
One tip for starters: try to find a long straight path. Vertical to the path try to put a flame/poison tower, to be able to face the opposite end of the road. Then put the priority to either: 1. The most progressed (if you put it to the entrance) 2. The least progressed (if you put it to the end of that road).
This way you deal more dmg overall, put more d.o.t. as well.
Just an another info: the higher lvl the tower, the more mana it uses.
Extra tip: teslas. Put them on the islands, or a half island, to hit more at once. Hight is secondary step in choosing. You can win with only 4-5 teslas if you know what you are doing. Upgrade them. If you choose quality over quantity, they wont do dmg to armor, unless you upgrade them manually, but thats worth it.
At the most top placed segment of your map in this run, you had an excellent place for the straight road to use, next to it a tesla, and put even a bit of slow to the closest avaliable spot below the tesla.
It could've been any variation, but that spot was hurting to be not used.
You tried to somewhat make killboxes witch is great, but heavily underutilised your extreme luck with that winding back sole road.
Speaking of winding back, you didnt commit enugh to the turning back to your starting area. If they go trough too fast on an another side, of course try to lenghten that one. But in this case, if you have committed, even your last resort ballistas would've lvled a bit, with that more money from the houses and more dmg in case of an emergency. Even if it starts to wind there, its better than what you got on the other points.
After a certain lvl, the upgrading towers dmg can start to rapidly incerase per upgrade.
Most of these are applicable to the current version as i see it
And i stop here, because this was half an hour to write on phone. And i started with "one" tip.
If i have time, i will try to play again to try and give more advice.
They greatly decreased the power of teslas and the leveling changes hurt them further. They aren't the best tower anymore.
"And I'm all out of gum" is a Duke Nukem reference. "I'm here to kick ass, and chew bubble gum, and I'm all out of bubble gum"
You did Rogue Tower finally! Awesome game, glad you played it, buddy.
You can improve houses with any tower. That early radar could have replaced some your rear ballistae, there was a spot by one of the later houses could have used a flame thrower…etc.
Best ASMR vid yet Amph. Much love and keep ‘em coming :)
“Why are you attracted to him?”
“His way with words is simply remarkable.”
Small tip you can change the torrents priority to highest health to help lower the larger hp targets in the early waves
Some dude just wanted to feature their music, and made a game. I love every single track on this game.
this was quite neat, good video!
Bought this game just because of your VOD AA. You're right the music is nuts at the right time! Thanks for the recommendation!
PSA: you can sell towers and get a full refund back, so using the Ballistae on the level 3 high grounds early on isn't a big deal, as you can sell them for full price and replace them with something else later.
The levels aren't refunded though.
@@Galaxy613 realistically, a level 2-3 ballista is not as valuable as a shredder or whatever else you would put there. Might as well use the space and get as much value as possible
You can hold shift and put down multiple towers without having to click the tower you want over and over
nothing better than a relaxing rogue tower vod
"I'm all out of gum"
"What are these, like, gum monsters?"
No they make pop culture references. Gum line is Duke Nukem...hilariously a character that makes pop culture references.
Severe diminishing returns on ballistas next to houses, always take the high ground!
Saw blades need to prioritize last. I’ve noticed they go in a straight line and don’t stop until a wall is hit. So to maximize potential damage you wanna have them on last with a long path.
Glad you finally found the mana spot you missed an hour in. It was bothering me.
The lack of bolts upgrades with a ballista spam is sad 😭
9:00 you hurt my head selling the ballista in the middle instead of the three practically useless ones far out of the bend
Shredders and tesla's then get a few planes and set them to hp shield and armor in the middle of the map place a ton of mortars like 9 set 3 to front 3 to most armor and set the last 3 to most hp. The splash takes care of most of the small guys. Once you get a ton of mana regeneration, spam slow towers and place more shredders around them. That's been my go to strategy. Works pretty well the planes do a ton of damage.
I've beaten this game several times, unlocking all perks and beating every play type, and RNG is the hardest part of it. I've found maximizing tower effectiveness by focusing on two or sometimes, three different towers are best. There's a chain of progression for your towers that are locked by the "cards" you choose leveling up to make the most of them. Playing "tall" is the best strategy I've found, but the best laid plans/ builds of mice and men are usually destroyed around level 35, 40 and 45...
I don’t know what you’re talking about. This was very entertaining to watch 😊
Thngs I've learned about the game:
i'd honestly suggest running one Reset by getting everything and testing it out, you'll find what you like and don't like and it's better to do it early on in your resets then later
Once you find what towers you like, reset and only purchase those towers and their upgrades. This way you're more likely to get upgrade cards you want overall
I'd recommend filling out the stat trees as DoT damage is very useful.
Getting mines is, for the most part, a good idea as it's only upgrade grants you more gold overall
Sometimes spamming long range towers and turning them into stat sticks can work but can turn into a bad habit. Take it from me, all I do is spam mortars and I understand it's a bad play.
Try to get the card frequency upgrades as quickly as possible, cause getting access to upgrades every wave can beef up your towers quickly
While tempting, don't spam mana buildings unless you know you'll either regen mana faster then it is consumed or you have more then enough to last the wave, preferably choose option one
«Let’s spam mortars!» *builds two mortars*
I don't want to be that guy, but flame and poison towers attacks pierce in a straight line so it's better to place them right at the end of a straight section of the path. Another way to say that is that the aoe that they deal only hits directly behind the target they shoot at.
Idk, love your videos, just wanted to say that so you know in case you continue playing this. Love this game
I had one Obelisk early on, and it was responsible for like 12% of all damage, it’s well worth it.
Would love to see you tackle Faster Than Light again, maybe even the multiverse mod
Yes! I'm so deep into Multiverse, it would be a godsend to watch AA play.
Wow, this looks like my kind of game! I love tower defense games.
I hate how he sets all three priorities the same because if the first priority is not filled it moves to the second so it just skips all three if it dosent fit
My mans shoulda put more towers near the end. At least an ice tower, a shredder, and maybe the flamer too for DPS
Modding for rogue tower: requires R2MODMAN manager or Thunderstore mod manager (they are basically the same thing, but thunderstore is part of the OVERWOLF app)
6:39 "This is not a bad place to have Balistas"
Yes it is...
"Stop calling me a heretic please, that's hurting my feelings" lol
I remember trying out this game and got quite upset when I saw they boasted having 400+ unique cards and upgrades but then you open up the meta progression and majority of towers share identical upgrades with a lot of it just being "Does +X damage to specific thing"
NGL it was truly painful watching AA refuse to copy-paste those attack commands when literally spamming the same tower 2, 3 or 4 times.
Upgrades shredders, proceeds to place no more shredders and spams unuprgraded mortars
I watched this whole vod
Incredible how whenever you hear "rogue" you know if the game is good or bad if it ends with "like" or "lite" respectively
For me the only time that difference matters is if a rougelite really holds you back without grinding the meta progression, when the rougelite is more like an RPG than a true roguelike.
Alternatively the ones with good optional difficulty increases can help reduce my dislike for required meta progression.
With an opening to a video like that how could I not watch?
That was great! On a path like this you could of won with just shredders. You should see what they can do when you pump 20 levels into shields or armor!
You introduce me to the oddest games that I seem to keep liking
I like this game, been playing most the year as a time passer
First video I've seen of you, watched the whole thing at 3AM.
Watching you continually pick suboptimal upgrades was anxiety inducing
Pretty sure progress is the best priority for cutters? They start at the front and go back hitting everyone, so as far forward is best
23:24 yaga baba is probably a joke on baba yaga, which is a… polish?? Witch who lives in a house with rooster legs and flies around in a couldron.
Seems like you underutilised the bits where the track loops back around, so where your towers can target enemies for longer at no added cost
Grabbed this game today and I love it, shredders are amazing to just spam down bottlenecks, bleed Carries hard till late game.
9:00 what a strong looking shape
45:06 From movie They Live (1988)
i always find the most amazing games watching these
I like way you paused and thought "Oh no, they'll be too young to know who B.B. King is"
You should also try similar game: Rogue Cube Defense
Going to build a house on a hill surrounded by sheer cliff faces so i cant be taxed
"Please stop calling me a heretic" spoken like a true heretic
My guess was always BB Hate is a reference to BB-8
This game needs a seed functionality. I ove it, but I wuld hate it way less if I could just retry certain lay-outs with different tactics... just so maybe, one day, I can finally get to the end for once!
I'm all out of gum... I'm so lost without you
Not bad run. Excellent map. But a few words of advice. Radar towers are awsome. They arnt cheap but they deal massive ammounts of damage and have a huge range.
Stroad von finklewich, hmmm that sounds far to similar to a friend of mines favourite villain
You have been favoured by the algorithim gods, never watched you before or searched this game or anything.
AA likes kotor? i knew i liked this ambiguous boi for a reason