@ 1:45 Fall 1995 at Prairie View A&M University, Terry Ellis came bck to visit. This was my crab year in the Marching Storm (BOX). I’ll never forget that day!!! Beautiful doesn’t even begin to describe how magnificent she is!! RIP...Prof Edwards!! Shout out to all my CB’s & CS’s of ‘95!! #Knuckles #Box’95
I’m cracking up because when she says she was the one that didn’t desire to be solo... I don’t feel that is true. I’ve listened to Dawn’s interviews and they have been consistent. It felt like between Terry and Sylvia Rhone they were trying to beat Dawn to the punch. When Terry’s album proved to be nothing that’s when Sylvia scrambled and cornered the girls and forced Dawn’s hand. Terry didn’t work so they were not going to let Dawn have a go at it solo. Crazy because Dawn clarifies and said that her solo project would have been after the what was to become of the EV3 project. They knew Dawn was special and after she left they could barely maintain. The four of them together was special and I don’t understand how you share the same management/lawyers as your production company and you never renegotiate your contract ever. There is a huge problem if SWV could make money their first album but EnVogue flounders financially but only looks the part. That is embarrassing. Every time Dawn tells her side of things Terry and Cindy were always opposition and were fine with where they are. There was something about Sylvia and the producers that seemed to be the divide of the group.
All of this is ACCURATE I WAS JUST LISTENING TO HALFTIME SHOW WITH DAWN ROBINSON… dawn needed left eye from Tlc in terry’s room for that impromptu meeting to discuss envogue’s direction on what would’ve been EV 4 & they kick her out just like that next day after Sylvia asked dawn for an immediate answer over the fact that terry album didn’t sell well so now it’s a No for dawn to have an album out ! HAD THEY STICK TOGETHER! Maxine would be kicked out 2 years KARMA… I love your response all true ! Terry doing that dawn is foul and at 60 neither her nor terry should still be TOURING NO ONE HAS HONORED ENVOGUE YET AND ITS 35 years almost as a group
@@derrickhobbs6463 All facts!!!! I went back the other day and listened to the EV3 album. This album was supposed to be them solidifying their spot as legends. They were supposed to only do one song with their original producers, and Organized Noize along with Martin, and Matias were supposed to move them to a new sound. We heard how Don’t let Go and the other songs by these writers and producers really stood out. Terry dating one of the original producers was a block for them. They sabotaged their own careers, and now have to tour for a living. This deeply hurts me because I’m a huge fan of the ladies, even Rhona because I loved the Soul Flower album. In hindsight looking at what was supposed to happen they were supposed to be Giants and untouchable because when Funky Divas dropped they were unstoppable!!! They were supposed to carry that moment to the finish line!!
@@kaseyb.4440 amen facts facts fact it was Denny terry was dating and yes dawn said that anything Denny & Thomas McElroy didn’t right Terry hated it lol ! It’s just crazy sabotaged and ended their careers touring may bring in a lot of money but realistically albums bring in residual income especially if you’re a writer on the album … poor ladies ! I envisioned terry & Cindy probably singing their last song ever on stage being close to the ages of late 50s early 60s?
@@derrickhobbs6463 I just feel they should be celebrated, and it just feels like those decisions after Funky Divas cut off their nose to spite their face. Even coming back together they were on the same thing with the new label. Just not negotiating when fans were hungry for their return. Songs like I’ll cry later, and Expiration could have been huge. It was a repeat cycle and 2 pennies per record. I’m not even sure how this works with streaming platforms!!
@@kaseyb.4440 streaming basically has taken over records maybe that’s why they’re touring 😂😂 but some old school fans such as myself should still be technological advanced to still listen to their music they have a Pandora , Spotify, & iHeart station !!! One day shall we get that original 4 or even all 5 members of EN VOGUE tribute ! I don’t mind Rhona as long as she stays in her place . The 5 group members pic to honor dirty ass Sylvia Rhône whom also made wanya break up with brandy for Adina Howard as she too was signed by rhona anyways they were honoring here Maxine said Terry and Cindy treated her and dawn terrible SEGREGATION & NOT ALLOWED TO TAKE A PIC WITH ANYTHING WITH ENVOGUE ON IT. KARMA IS STILL WHOOPING TERRY & CINDY’s BEHINDS AND THOSE WERE MY FAVORITE 2 as a child nowadays TEAM DAWN
Of all the female members of #EnVogue from past and present, #TerryEllis is my all-time favorite! Of all the songs the group has performed in music videos and live events, my all-time favorite song is #MyLovinYoureNeverGonnaGetIt. Since then, I’ve had a crush on her!
Now this is the terry i remember and love !!! Htown stand up!! 😍🙌🏾🙌🏾 I just hate she was just so mean to dawn in the group and the reason at the meeting in her room she didn’t stick up for dawn !
I knooooow. But basically Dawn was suppose to do one and they pulled the plug. I don’t think Cindy or Maxine really wanted to do it. But business wise I think they unfortunately saw how Terry’s album didn’t do so well and didn’t wanna take the chance of failure with Dawn. To them they saw Terry as their solo star so when it didn’t do well they probably assumed for sure Dawn’s wouldn’t succeed either. Which pissed her off and basically was the catalyst of her quitting along with managerial/money issues.
@@stacyr4768 czcams.com/video/YjLB8MnhU2Y/video.html I don’t exactly remember at what time but it’s this interview (I can’t find the one where she says Denny was verbally abusive as it was on IG live)
Actually Dawn was given money to do a solo project. She never finished it and blew the budget. She’s had more outside opportunities than any other member of EV, with various producers and companies. We’re still pulling for her though.
@@teamaculate her solo was to be on the same label. The album hadn't even got underway before she was out . Meanwhile, Terry's album was allowed to be completed promoted and summarily flop right in the middle of hugely successful En Vogue albums.
@@teamaculate solo album or not, Dawn simply entertaining doing one should not have been such a divisive idea especially when they didn't see Terry doing it as divisive .
@@bowling4clarity817 I think what divided the group was the issue with the money/contract , and Dawn standing her ground on not going in to the studio for the next contracted album. Dawn wanted to stop everything,renegotiate right then and there. The rest of the group were ok with renegotiating while continuing to record under what was their current contract. I think the solo album issue was more of a side bar. After Dawn exited the group she the group she was poised to release an album with Dr De involved. She sang on the song Square Biz I believe , and was still hot . Not sure why that didn’t happen. Would have been perfect timing for a solo project . Just my opinion though. What do I know ? I wish Dawn nothing but the best in all she does .
I undoubtedly wish I'd seen attractive women like her working n a movie theater. Before walking n it, she would put her arm around me, rub my back & say "you can go ahead & you can enjoy your movie, baby". ;) Need to go to movies some more.
I seen in an interview that Southern Gal was originally intended to be EV's 3rd album but issues with the management and label at the time (plus Cindy being pregnant) terry decided to do the whole thing solo,
Terry Ellis, beautiful and talented lady but she’s a selfish woman whose solo effort was the result of favoritism from the label heads and from one of their producers whom she was sleeping with. No loyalty to her group members, they were making 2 cents a record.
Terri Ellis tried to be a standout like Diana Ross but failed big time. Her actions by screwing the boss didn’t produce dividends. Dawn Robinson was the talent of the group. Terri is such an unfortunate story
hey you sinister lad or delusional trick - first, not only did I PURCHASE Dawn Robinson’s solo release, entitled Dawn. My favorite track btw is Get Up Again which wasn’t a single release. The single released was called Envious. So take your try at reading 📖 me and go play in ya butt. 😂 💋
Terry Ellis is so darn talented. She needs to release another album
It's just so sad that she didn't get the recognition she deserves.
Terry Ellis is so talented and has a beautiful voice. It's just so sad that she didn't get the recognition she deserves.
How could you not fall in love with Terry Ellis...? So sweet and down to earth.
My God she's beautiful and classy!!!! Luv you Terri❤😍
I really liked her album. It's held up very well.
@ 1:45 Fall 1995 at Prairie View A&M University, Terry Ellis came bck to visit. This was my crab year in the Marching Storm (BOX). I’ll never forget that day!!! Beautiful doesn’t even begin to describe how magnificent she is!!
RIP...Prof Edwards!!
Shout out to all my CB’s & CS’s of ‘95!!
#Knuckles
#Box’95
What a true talent.
I’m cracking up because when she says she was the one that didn’t desire to be solo... I don’t feel that is true. I’ve listened to Dawn’s interviews and they have been consistent. It felt like between Terry and Sylvia Rhone they were trying to beat Dawn to the punch. When Terry’s album proved to be nothing that’s when Sylvia scrambled and cornered the girls and forced Dawn’s hand. Terry didn’t work so they were not going to let Dawn have a go at it solo. Crazy because Dawn clarifies and said that her solo project would have been after the what was to become of the EV3 project. They knew Dawn was special and after she left they could barely maintain. The four of them together was special and I don’t understand how you share the same management/lawyers as your production company and you never renegotiate your contract ever. There is a huge problem if SWV could make money their first album but EnVogue flounders financially but only looks the part. That is embarrassing. Every time Dawn tells her side of things Terry and Cindy were always opposition and were fine with where they are. There was something about Sylvia and the producers that seemed to be the divide of the group.
All of this is ACCURATE I WAS JUST LISTENING TO HALFTIME SHOW WITH DAWN ROBINSON… dawn needed left eye from Tlc in terry’s room for that impromptu meeting to discuss envogue’s direction on what would’ve been EV 4 & they kick her out just like that next day after Sylvia asked dawn for an immediate answer over the fact that terry album didn’t sell well so now it’s a No for dawn to have an album out ! HAD THEY STICK TOGETHER! Maxine would be kicked out 2 years KARMA… I love your response all true ! Terry doing that dawn is foul and at 60 neither her nor terry should still be TOURING NO ONE HAS HONORED ENVOGUE YET AND ITS 35 years almost as a group
@@derrickhobbs6463 All facts!!!! I went back the other day and listened to the EV3 album. This album was supposed to be them solidifying their spot as legends. They were supposed to only do one song with their original producers, and Organized Noize along with Martin, and Matias were supposed to move them to a new sound. We heard how Don’t let Go and the other songs by these writers and producers really stood out. Terry dating one of the original producers was a block for them. They sabotaged their own careers, and now have to tour for a living. This deeply hurts me because I’m a huge fan of the ladies, even Rhona because I loved the Soul Flower album. In hindsight looking at what was supposed to happen they were supposed to be Giants and untouchable because when Funky Divas dropped they were unstoppable!!! They were supposed to carry that moment to the finish line!!
@@kaseyb.4440 amen facts facts fact it was Denny terry was dating and yes dawn said that anything Denny & Thomas McElroy didn’t right Terry hated it lol ! It’s just crazy sabotaged and ended their careers touring may bring in a lot of money but realistically albums bring in residual income especially if you’re a writer on the album … poor ladies ! I envisioned terry & Cindy probably singing their last song ever on stage being close to the ages of late 50s early 60s?
@@derrickhobbs6463 I just feel they should be celebrated, and it just feels like those decisions after Funky Divas cut off their nose to spite their face. Even coming back together they were on the same thing with the new label. Just not negotiating when fans were hungry for their return. Songs like I’ll cry later, and Expiration could have been huge. It was a repeat cycle and 2 pennies per record. I’m not even sure how this works with streaming platforms!!
@@kaseyb.4440 streaming basically has taken over records maybe that’s why they’re touring 😂😂 but some old school fans such as myself should still be technological advanced to still listen to their music they have a Pandora , Spotify, & iHeart station !!! One day shall we get that original 4 or even all 5 members of EN VOGUE tribute ! I don’t mind Rhona as long as she stays in her place . The 5 group members pic to honor dirty ass Sylvia Rhône whom also made wanya break up with brandy for Adina Howard as she too was signed by rhona anyways they were honoring here Maxine said Terry and Cindy treated her and dawn terrible SEGREGATION & NOT ALLOWED TO TAKE A PIC WITH ANYTHING WITH ENVOGUE ON IT. KARMA IS STILL WHOOPING TERRY & CINDY’s BEHINDS AND THOSE WERE MY FAVORITE 2 as a child nowadays TEAM DAWN
I miss this gal. loved her southern Gal album. She was sooo hot. I don't understand why the album didn't do well.
Of all the female members of #EnVogue from past and present, #TerryEllis is my all-time favorite!
Of all the songs the group has performed in music videos and live events, my all-time favorite song is #MyLovinYoureNeverGonnaGetIt. Since then, I’ve had a crush on her!
The best female vocalist group of all time.
She looks just like a young Ruby Dee.
Lmaooooooooooooooo
Wow! She actually does!
Now this is the terry i remember and love !!! Htown stand up!! 😍🙌🏾🙌🏾 I just hate she was just so mean to dawn in the group and the reason at the meeting in her room she didn’t stick up for dawn !
All of the girls deserved solo deals. Why just Terry? Very frustrating.
I knooooow. But basically Dawn was suppose to do one and they pulled the plug. I don’t think Cindy or Maxine really wanted to do it. But business wise I think they unfortunately saw how Terry’s album didn’t do so well and didn’t wanna take the chance of failure with Dawn. To them they saw Terry as their solo star so when it didn’t do well they probably assumed for sure Dawn’s wouldn’t succeed either. Which pissed her off and basically was the catalyst of her quitting along with managerial/money issues.
Ouuuu Ouuuu Don't Goooo, Girl Sang T possess such a HUMBLE spirit, Whomever God bless to marry her surely be a truly HAPPY man
The topics of relationship seem to make her uneasy. She must of had a bad experience in dating.
@@dontworryitsjustvitinho where can I see this interview? It sounds good, that’s why I like Dawn .
@@stacyr4768 czcams.com/video/YjLB8MnhU2Y/video.html I don’t exactly remember at what time but it’s this interview (I can’t find the one where she says Denny was verbally abusive as it was on IG live)
@@dontworryitsjustvitinho thanks. Dawn spills all the tea and I love it . Terry gets very uneasy about this topic .
All of the ladies are talented. After Dawn left the group she never reached stardom. I wonder why?
But when Dawn wanted to do the same , it became a huge problem? I hate how that narrative got spun .
Actually Dawn was given money to do a solo project. She never finished it and blew the budget. She’s had more outside opportunities than any other member of EV, with various producers and companies. We’re still pulling for her though.
@@teamaculate her solo was to be on the same label. The album hadn't even got underway before she was out . Meanwhile, Terry's album was allowed to be completed promoted and summarily flop right in the middle of hugely successful En Vogue albums.
@@teamaculate solo album or not, Dawn simply entertaining doing one should not have been such a divisive idea especially when they didn't see Terry doing it as divisive .
@@bowling4clarity817 I think what divided the group was the issue with the money/contract , and Dawn standing her ground on not going in to the studio for the next contracted album. Dawn wanted to stop everything,renegotiate right then and there. The rest of the group were ok with renegotiating while continuing to record under what was their current contract. I think the solo album issue was more of a side bar. After Dawn exited the group she the group she was poised to release an album with Dr De involved. She sang on the song Square Biz I believe , and was still hot . Not sure why that didn’t happen. Would have been perfect timing for a solo project . Just my opinion though. What do I know ? I wish Dawn nothing but the best in all she does .
“FIRM BIZ” by the Firm. Sorry .
It was the 1991 Grammys
I undoubtedly wish I'd seen attractive women like her working n a movie theater. Before walking n it, she would put her arm around me, rub my back & say "you can go ahead & you can enjoy your movie, baby". ;) Need to go to movies some more.
i heard the southern gal album was originally supposed to be en vogue's album
No, not at all. That was Terry's flavor only.
I seen in an interview that Southern Gal was originally intended to be EV's 3rd album but issues with the management and label at the time (plus Cindy being pregnant) terry decided to do the whole thing solo,
correct
And honestly some of the songs it sounds like Cindy, & Max are donig the bg vocals, What Did I Do To You would've been a great EV4 hit
MusicBlue22 Absolutely! Even with "Wherever You Are", you can hear the girls in the background!
wow whats that vid at 0:47?
Terry Ellis, beautiful and talented lady but she’s a selfish woman whose solo effort was the result of favoritism from the label heads and from one of their producers whom she was sleeping with. No loyalty to her group members, they were making 2 cents a record.
Somebody been listening to Dawn. Lol
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Terri Ellis tried to be a standout like Diana Ross but failed big time. Her actions by screwing the boss didn’t produce dividends. Dawn Robinson was the talent of the group. Terri is such an unfortunate story
EnVogue is an unfortunate story period. And all four members of EnVogue were THE TALENT. Not just Dawn.
@@ceeceetracey9839 thank you. I hate how they always make it like Dawn is so much better than the other ladies
@@TPxxx3 me too. I don’t get it. It’s like Dawn is their favorite so they automatically assume she’s the best
Should have been Dawn solo. Terry old boring self. Gur gone
Well Dawn was gonna have a solo album but then the label decided not to do her album.
LMFAOOOOOOOO
Dawn had a lot of opportunities but doesnt seem to play well with others. Which is unfortunate for those of us that became HUGE EnVogue fans.
Dawn did release a solo album eventually and I bet you didn't even buy it. You had time to hate on Terry though.
hey you sinister lad or delusional trick - first, not only did I PURCHASE Dawn Robinson’s solo release, entitled Dawn. My favorite track btw is Get Up Again which wasn’t a single release. The single released was called Envious. So take your try at reading 📖 me and go play in ya butt. 😂 💋