@@manfredheck3529 But on the other hand the absolutely stunning amount of Sherman tanks (out of which only some were mock-ups and they look perfect) and other vehicles and most notably aircraft are all real :)
Brian Horrocks was probably the most inspirational commander in the British Army at the time. Due to injuries he isn't more famous. The line of Vandeleurs in the guards continues today, since Waterloo at least too.
@@panzerliebfamily I believe. A tour guide in a Waterloo battlefield tour mentioned the link. Vandaleurs are still serving. Obviously armoured units were the direct descendants of heavy cavalry, so very much the same job.😊
Joe Vandelur is one of those characters in this movie who wouldn't sound right saying "FORWARD GO CHARGE!" I'm so glad they had the real life officers and combatants from the real battle of Arnhem. I don't think any of them are still around now , unless they were very young at the time and very old now.
I'm pretty sure there's a lot of vets around that can give decent suggestions even if the war depicted was way before their own service times. Much better than useless drama, excessive CGI and attention-seeking.
Sir Michael Caine was born Maurice Joseph Micklewhite. In 1951 at the age of 18, he was called up for National Service, serving as a rifleman in C Company, 1st Battalion Royal Fusiliers, with British Army of the Rhine Headquarters in Iserlohn, West Germany. Caine then served in the Korean War, witnessing first-hand combat and Chinese human wave tactics. Caine stated that for years he hated the smell of garlic as he associated it with North Korean and Chinese troops would munch it as a snack. Caine’s medals comprise the (Queen's) Korea Medal, UN Korean War Medal, and National Service Medal. He was discharged in 1954 at the rank of Private.
Excellent research! I would have never known he is a Korean War combat veteran. I have more respect for Sir Michael Caine knowing he utilized his military experience to make characters in war movies more authentic and genuine.
@justinlabrosse8506 national service lads didn't tend to get promoted unless they were staying In. The British forces focused on a professional volunteer NCO cadre
Sir Martin Middlebrook wrote a good book too, although not one of his best. _Market Garden_ is its name, I believe. The best books from this author by far are those about RAF Bomber Command.
this is a great movie. several veterans of the battle were on set to help consult. and it shows. military personnel are not as dramatic as hollywood script-writers .. back in the days when quality movies were made that cared about reality.
I recall reading something that the script had Colonel Frost doing the "we can not accept your surrender" bit. When informed of this, Frost responded, "I never said that." So they gave the line to the witty chap with the umbrella.
the scene where Frost (Anthony Hopkins) runs across the road while under fire when the Germans were attacking his position - the real Frost said of this ' I didn't run.. A British Officer is expected to display a disregard for danger so I walked'
Beautiful! Well done! It is one of the best films in the history of cinema, and probably will continue to be. It was produced better than most movies ever
My great uncle Vernon was a full bird colonel and commanded a take unit. He was one of the sweetest men I know and he definitely had seen things he wish he hadn’t. He met my great aunt in France and brought her home to America, then later my grandpa moved over as well. After growing up in ww2 France, gramps then was drafted into the Korean War and operated a howitzer that was on tracks. Luckily he did not have to see combat but because he could speak several languages, the CIA offered him a job but declined.
I could watch this movie time & time again & not grow tired of it …. This movie is so highly thought of because there’s a military miniature figurines company called KING & COUNTRY that have cast different soldiers(mostly British paras including Sir Richard Attenborough with his shot to bits umbrella) in their poses as they were seen in the film
I think the more interesting part is how they cut in footage of real 25lb artillery guns firing during a training event in the opening bombardment scene. When you see those guns firing, they’re firing live ammunition. On a closed firing range of course and the sounds recorded from the firing range were used to compliment the other effects used during the shoot of the advance.
A movie that could benefit by being filmed at a time when many important figures from WW2 were still alive. No Cgi effects either which greatly enhanced the combat and parachute drop sequences. Well done to Sir David Attenborough for making this movie
IIRC, Col. (then Gen., retired) Frost was also an advisor and he told Anthony Hopkins that it wouldn’t do to sprint full speed from cover to cover. Didn’t want the men to think you were nervous.
This is why you need someone who's been in an actual war as an advisor. Christopher Lee told Peter Jackson what happens when someone is stabbed in the back with a knife for that scene on top of Orthanc, where Saruman gets stabbed by Wormtongue. He'd seen it happen in war, so he knew how his character would be affected by it.
Few actors seem to have produced such a wide repertoire of stinkers to greatest films of their genre as Michael Caine, fortunately this was one of his greats
My moment of truth, 1991 Gulf War: 4am, as the spearhead of the western attack into Iraq. Over the roar of our engine, a single clear, calm command echoed through our VAB: “en avant, en avant, en avant”
Booming Through, instead of Strenght Four was used by the Americans to call in artillery, and taken over by the British in Holland or back in France because of their cooperation
Another funny thing is that there's a scene when a guy runs across a street under heavy gunfire while in reality he walked across the street, but they changed it because they thought movie audiences would think that it wasn't authentic.
But when you realize that the 1st Airborne needed to not only hold the drop zones for three subsequent DAYS of drops, plus capture and hold Arnhem Bridge, and maintain control of the 8 miles of routes in between, you know that it was doomed to fail. Western forces learned the limits of Airborne forces and have never tried using them the same way since.
Well Hodges US 1st Army would still have failed to get beyond Aachen to the Rhine to move towards the Ruhr in tandem with the British 2nd Army and would still have got bogged down in the Hurtgen Forest, while Patton would still have struggled at Metz and the rest of the Lorraine.
This movie was probably the first one l have seen that documented a series of tragic losses for the allies. I remember hating that endlessly long shot of the German motorcycle approaching on the bridge. Was the title of the bridge in question the Remagen bridge?
My cousin Pte Joseph N O Donnell 3 Para was one of the lucky ones to survive, on returning home on leave, my uncle asked how did he escape? To which Josie replied " I was a good runner!" 😁
Caine also said "It wouldn't do, to arrive early. In the nick of time would do nicely". I wonder if that was what Vandeleur actually said, because it seems like an incredibly aloof or naive thing to say in an operation where Edward Fox, playing Gen. Horrocks says "Speed is the vital factor".
Prior to “Private Ryan” there were only a few movies about WWII that could be considered great films about the war (in my opinion)”Battleground”,A Bridge too Far”,” The Longest Day”*. *inspite of its rather bloodless and some historical errors it’s still a good view of the German command structure and the fact that the characters spoke their own language !
@@RealKull if you’re referring to the 1976 version,yeah I agree,the first thing was the rather useless romance,the unnecessary addition of two fictional characters as in Charlton Heston and Edward Albert as his son (a throwback to the movie “in Harm’s Way “with John Wayne as the father and Brandon DeWilde as his son)the Japanese portrayed more as caricatures than actual historical figures,the rather calm and relaxed demeanor of the pilots during the battle and as you said the jingoistic tone of the movie (it was post Vietnam so there was a sort of need to restore confidence and patriotism in the general public )by the way,there’s another connection to “In Harm’s Way “Henry Fonda largely playing the same Role in both films as Adm.Chester Nimitz..
A Bridge Too Far is a great film. It simpified events, so many people have seen it, it has given an inaccurate view of the campaign to so many people. Pros and cons.
All that authentic milsurp is crazy. You literally couldn't make this film today without a ridiculously huge budget (and A Bridge Too Far was already pretty expensive for 1977!)
Also, watch closely as the tank column begins to move down the road (I THINK it's this movie), at least one of the M4s is riding on wheels underneath, not its tracks, not sure why
I think you are thinking of when one of the knocked out Sherman's is pushed off the road by a dozer tank. The tank's tracks were knocked off when it got hit, so it is rolling on just the road wheels.
"I don't want to cause a fuss, but I'm changing my line!"
He is English. Back then the British didn’t believe in coursing a fuss
A bridge too far is probably one of the best ww2 movies I've ever seen from an accuracy standpoint
Don't ask the British about how the 82nd Airborne took that bridge all by themselves.
@@skydiverclassc2031Greetings, l hope you guys will read my comment with a question at the end. Thanks.
Well, except the modern Leopard-I- tanks performing King-/Tiger-Tanks instead of using some proper dummies🧐
@@manfredheck3529 But on the other hand the absolutely stunning amount of Sherman tanks (out of which only some were mock-ups and they look perfect) and other vehicles and most notably aircraft are all real :)
Watch "Theirs is the Glory" which is about the 1st AB at Arnhem and was made just a few yrs after the war and features real German Panther tanks.
Honestly it’s a perfect example of how reality is better than film. That gentle tone conveyed the character more than some garish charge.
British officers were not prone to hysterics. We let the American Generals do all that nonsense.
General Horrocks: Do you think you'll be able to pull it off Joe?
L.T Colonel Vandeleur: I have nothing else planned for this afternoon.
So British.
Brian Horrocks was probably the most inspirational commander in the British Army at the time. Due to injuries he isn't more famous. The line of Vandeleurs in the guards continues today, since Waterloo at least too.
Wait, didn’t Vandeleur command the light dragoons at Waterloo? Not exactly the guards, but a long military family history to be sure.
@@panzerliebfamily I believe. A tour guide in a Waterloo battlefield tour mentioned the link. Vandaleurs are still serving. Obviously armoured units were the direct descendants of heavy cavalry, so very much the same job.😊
Joe Vandelur is one of those characters in this movie who wouldn't sound right saying "FORWARD GO CHARGE!" I'm so glad they had the real life officers and combatants from the real battle of Arnhem. I don't think any of them are still around now , unless they were very young at the time and very old now.
Need more vets on Hollywood.
Why shout when I have a microphone and every leader has a headset on?
Fairly difficult seeing as most are either dead or dying
I'm pretty sure there's a lot of vets around that can give decent suggestions even if the war depicted was way before their own service times. Much better than useless drama, excessive CGI and attention-seeking.
Unfortunately, not many ww2 vets left
I was not referring to solely WW2. Vets, in general, could provide these more common sense ad-libs that would help tell better stories
If caine wants to change a line you damn well let him change a line an amazing actor
Sir Michael Caine was born Maurice Joseph Micklewhite. In 1951 at the age of 18, he was called up for National Service, serving as a rifleman in C Company, 1st Battalion Royal Fusiliers, with British Army of the Rhine Headquarters in Iserlohn, West Germany. Caine then served in the Korean War, witnessing first-hand combat and Chinese human wave tactics. Caine stated that for years he hated the smell of garlic as he associated it with North Korean and Chinese troops would munch it as a snack. Caine’s medals comprise the (Queen's) Korea Medal, UN Korean War Medal, and National Service Medal. He was discharged in 1954 at the rank of Private.
Excellent research! I would have never known he is a Korean War combat veteran. I have more respect for Sir Michael Caine knowing he utilized his military experience to make characters in war movies more authentic and genuine.
Only private? Must of refused promotion
@justinlabrosse8506 national service lads didn't tend to get promoted unless they were staying In. The British forces focused on a professional volunteer NCO cadre
Wow News to me ❤
@@justinlabrosse8506 Being an actor doesn't mean being officer material.
The Actor's in the Movie had Johnny Frost , Roy Urquhart and Jim Gavin as well on set .
fun fact, the bridge is now named for John Frost.
The 70's was a great time to be a kid and see all these timeless war flicks
Michael Caine is a real actor.
Hes also a vet and fought in the Korean War
My grandfather was as german soldier on the other side there, get wounded and catched as POW by the Britian .
Operation Market Garden - A Bridge Too Far, based on the book by Cornelius Ryan. Well worth a read.
Read it every few years as well as the longest day and Sie kommen. Classics!
Sir Martin Middlebrook wrote a good book too, although not one of his best. _Market Garden_ is its name, I believe.
The best books from this author by far are those about RAF Bomber Command.
Very outdated and inaccurate now though.
I run a couple of ryan's books they were excellent
Impossible to look more english than mister Fox
My man Alfred 🦇
Lieutenant is pronounced "left-tennant" when addressing british and commonwealth ranks
it’s an ai voice
@@nate.j An American AI voice.
Brits can btfo
Right
I was going to say the same thing
Sir Michael is a true gentleman.
this is a great movie. several veterans of the battle were on set to help consult. and it shows. military personnel are not as dramatic as hollywood script-writers .. back in the days when quality movies were made that cared about reality.
LOVE that film. Away to watch it now.
A veteran and a patriot.
Michael Caine is such a good actor that he could play almost any character 🎉
He'd struggle to play King Kong I reckon.
This scene was recorded at the Dutch artillery firing range in ''t Harde.
Grew up watching films like this
I preferred the sequel with Steven Seagal..."A Buffet Too Far."
Leave that poor man alone, hasn't he suffered enough? He wasn't even asked to appear in any expendable movies.
That was a FRIDGE too far! ,😁
I recall reading something that the script had Colonel Frost doing the "we can not accept your surrender" bit. When informed of this, Frost responded, "I never said that." So they gave the line to the witty chap with the umbrella.
the scene where Frost (Anthony Hopkins) runs across the road while under fire when the Germans were attacking his position - the real Frost said of this ' I didn't run.. A British Officer is expected to display a disregard for danger so I walked'
Great actor , awesome movie.
The guy in the red handed cap is the best character in the film
Richard Attenborgh also in The Great Escape
But his nephew is an appalling human being, sadly
Lieutenant-General Sir Brian Horrocks, the finest Corps commander in WW2 IMHO.
Beautiful! Well done!
It is one of the best films in the history of cinema, and probably will continue to be. It was produced better than most movies ever
My great uncle Vernon was a full bird colonel and commanded a take unit. He was one of the sweetest men I know and he definitely had seen things he wish he hadn’t. He met my great aunt in France and brought her home to America, then later my grandpa moved over as well. After growing up in ww2 France, gramps then was drafted into the Korean War and operated a howitzer that was on tracks. Luckily he did not have to see combat but because he could speak several languages, the CIA offered him a job but declined.
Lieutenant is pronounced Left-tenant when referring to a British Army Officer, not Loo-tenant.
Michael Caine is a top class actor.
I could watch this movie time & time again & not grow tired of it …. This movie is so highly thought of because there’s a military miniature figurines company called KING & COUNTRY that have cast different soldiers(mostly British paras including Sir Richard Attenborough with his shot to bits umbrella) in their poses as they were seen in the film
My best friend and I have been known to watch this movie at Christmas
One of the best ww2 movies
Love the jeep!❤
Just a touch of realism
Nice 1 Sir Michael, thank you.
Its the most british thing to do, "well...we might as well begin gentlemen."
Michael Cained the Role ✅
Interesting, as well. Michael was a combat veteran in Korea.
this is one of the most classic action film
I travel that same road at least once a week, Leopoldsburg - Lommel - Valkenswaard - Eindhoven.
Are the German still hiding in the woods?
You shoot at me, I'll get moving alright!!! You won't have to tell me twice! 😮
Leftenent is how pronounce the rank if referring to a British Officer, so please respect this instead of using US Lootenent.
It's an AI voice, there is no respect
@@illitero AI will destroy us!
I think the more interesting part is how they cut in footage of real 25lb artillery guns firing during a training event in the opening bombardment scene. When you see those guns firing, they’re firing live ammunition. On a closed firing range of course and the sounds recorded from the firing range were used to compliment the other effects used during the shoot of the advance.
A movie that could benefit by being filmed at a time when many important figures from WW2 were still alive. No Cgi effects either which greatly enhanced the combat and parachute drop sequences. Well done to Sir David Attenborough for making this movie
That’s Micheal Caine for you,
IIRC, Col. (then Gen., retired) Frost was also an advisor and he told Anthony Hopkins that it wouldn’t do to sprint full speed from cover to cover. Didn’t want the men to think you were nervous.
Great movie. Terrific acting and showed the static that existed among the allied commanders
Who was writing the script, Yoda?
"hmMMmm, forward go charge"
This is why you need someone who's been in an actual war as an advisor. Christopher Lee told Peter Jackson what happens when someone is stabbed in the back with a knife for that scene on top of Orthanc, where Saruman gets stabbed by Wormtongue. He'd seen it happen in war, so he knew how his character would be affected by it.
That is called humility.
Interesting
Few actors seem to have produced such a wide repertoire of stinkers to greatest films of their genre as Michael Caine, fortunately this was one of his greats
any actor with a wide spanning career has a SWARM for each ZULU DAWN
My old commanding officer grandfather Micheal Caine played
The light khaki pants Caine wears always bothered me but then I realised the tankies were in North Africa before, so that explains it.
My moment of truth, 1991 Gulf War: 4am, as the spearhead of the western attack into Iraq. Over the roar of our engine, a single clear, calm command echoed through our VAB: “en avant, en avant, en avant”
The film's director spared no expense...
Another funny is that he didn't know the tank in front was a stunt vehicle.. so when it blew up his reaction was genuine..
My #1 favorite war film
That’s the most British thing I’ve heard in a long while.
Booming Through, instead of Strenght Four was used by the Americans to call in artillery, and taken over by the British in Holland or back in France because of their cooperation
Great actor ❤
One of best war films ever! ❤
Homer Simpson played the lead in the movie "A Fridge Too Far" 😂
Another funny thing is that there's a scene when a guy runs across a street under heavy gunfire while in reality he walked across the street, but they changed it because they thought movie audiences would think that it wasn't authentic.
How the world would have been different if Market Garden had succeeded.
How? Freakin' leftist, FDR, would've given the communists eastern Europe anyway, even if the war had ended in late Dec '44.
But when you realize that the 1st Airborne needed to not only hold the drop zones for three subsequent DAYS of drops, plus capture and hold Arnhem Bridge, and maintain control of the 8 miles of routes in between, you know that it was doomed to fail. Western forces learned the limits of Airborne forces and have never tried using them the same way since.
One of the war's might have beens...
Well Hodges US 1st Army would still have failed to get beyond Aachen to the Rhine to move towards the Ruhr in tandem with the British 2nd Army and would still have got bogged down in the Hurtgen Forest, while Patton would still have struggled at Metz and the rest of the Lorraine.
great film 💯
Michael Caine fought in close combat in the Korean War.
LtCol. Vandeleur: You don’t know the half of it, Charlie. This part of the road we’re on now, this is the wide part.
I was Vandeleurs son's driver in the early 90's!!! 😮😂
👍 movie. 👍performances.
This movie was probably the first one l have seen that documented a series of tragic losses for the allies. I remember hating that endlessly long shot of the German motorcycle approaching on the bridge. Was the title of the bridge in question the Remagen bridge?
Arnhem road bridge, now called John Frost Bridge
Remagen is south of Bonn, Germany. None of the M-G Operation took place in Germany.
My cousin Pte Joseph N O Donnell 3 Para was one of the lucky ones to survive, on returning home on leave, my uncle asked how did he escape? To which Josie replied " I was a good runner!" 😁
My favorite war movie.
Sir Michael Caine was a Korean War veteran serving with British Forces.😮😅
Little details like that do make a difference.
Lefftenant, he’s playing a British soldier.
Caine also said "It wouldn't do, to arrive early. In the nick of time would do nicely". I wonder if that was what Vandeleur actually said, because it seems like an incredibly aloof or naive thing to say in an operation where Edward Fox, playing Gen. Horrocks says "Speed is the vital factor".
You don't really understand the British, do you?
Prior to “Private Ryan” there were only a few movies about WWII that could be considered great films about the war (in my opinion)”Battleground”,A Bridge too Far”,” The Longest Day”*. *inspite of its rather bloodless and some historical errors it’s still a good view of the German command structure and the fact that the characters spoke their own language !
Tora Tora Tora was good as well while Midway was plodding and jingoistic
@@RealKull if you’re referring to the 1976 version,yeah I agree,the first thing was the rather useless romance,the unnecessary addition of two fictional characters as in Charlton Heston and Edward Albert as his son (a throwback to the movie “in Harm’s Way “with John Wayne as the father and Brandon DeWilde as his son)the Japanese portrayed more as caricatures than actual historical figures,the rather calm and relaxed demeanor of the pilots during the battle and as you said the jingoistic tone of the movie (it was post Vietnam so there was a sort of need to restore confidence and patriotism in the general public )by the way,there’s another connection to “In Harm’s Way “Henry Fonda largely playing the same Role in both films as Adm.Chester Nimitz..
There are two versions of The Longest day, one where the Germans speak German and one where they speak English.
A fridge too far....ooh, now I get it😊
Sir. Cain he is a ww2 veteran. My respects.
*Korean War.
He’s probably only one in whole movie that’s still alive today
Now i know where my name came from
I felt torture and I felt pain just like that film with Michael Caine
History is always better than hollywood.
Awesome.
A Bridge Too Far is a great film. It simpified events, so many people have seen it, it has given an inaccurate view of the campaign to so many people.
Pros and cons.
Great movie 🎥
That is so much more British than forward go charge lol
Omg we watched this as a lil treat at basic training, its officially called a movie too long!
All that authentic milsurp is crazy. You literally couldn't make this film today without a ridiculously huge budget (and A Bridge Too Far was already pretty expensive for 1977!)
I watched this movie in the theatre in 1970s.
Caine also saw combat in Korean War
LEFTenant as he was bri'ish. Respect the man.
Great movie
Wow👍🏻💪
Also, watch closely as the tank column begins to move down the road (I THINK it's this movie), at least one of the M4s is riding on wheels underneath, not its tracks, not sure why
Some of the tanks portrayed in the movie were mock-ups built over regular vehicle chassis.
I think you are thinking of when one of the knocked out Sherman's is pushed off the road by a dozer tank. The tank's tracks were knocked off when it got hit, so it is rolling on just the road wheels.
my father was there and i watched the movie with him it was really interesting. he swam across the river at the end.
Wow, my weekend is complete. Seriously……..
I did not know that 😂
Did you know in a Bridge too far there really was a bridge that was too far