WHY ON EARTH DID THEY DELETE THIS SCENE! URRRG! this adds so much to the episode, and i mean the whole episode.. this explains so many emotions.. well, at least we got to see it, somehow
I never could understand her insecurity. She had taken this long to be with Castle, so he is scared too. He thinks after two failed marriages. She will run too. The writers never highlighted this, it is obvious.
That is a great scene and would have helped show how clueless Castle was being in regards to moving the relationship past dating. Stana is so fabulous showing her emotions.
I don't think that he is clueless he just never knows how she reacts to things there is no doubt that he loves her he's proved it how many times and when a man stays with you not knowing if your going to be blow away that speaks to this is more that just two people dating.
Indeed!!!! PLUS wasn't this in... "Rise of the machines" as I call it lol?! They already exchanged mutual "I love you"s (at looooooooong last but still!!! (;P)) if that doesn't say "dating" I mean seriously, monogamous, committed dating I don't know what does!! I'm glad they deleted this scene coz it doesn't make any sense!!! Kit's whole insecurities didn't make any sense!!! She shoulda just talked it out with Rich and figured it out as a couple!!! That's what stage they're at - the couple stage, past dating!!!! Now we all know Caskett were awesome, beautiful, strooooong, magic, REAL etc. etc. but sometimes the writing was a little hinky n'ais pas??
It shows how she is feeling confused about where the relationship is going. However, I do think that the two should've sat down and talked about where things were going instead of continually working through the emotions. I feel the scene with Vaughn kind of takes this into complexity on how she feels. Although I don't agree with Vaughn kissing her in the first place, on the other hand, I think it adds more depth to what she feels for Castle. Again, they just need to sit down and talk it out instead of working through the emotions.
One of my favorite all time shows S 1 - 6. Once they got together and the friction between the actors became an issue it lost much of it's charm. Kept needing to separate them with story lines. I've binged it twice during covid and still love it but the early seasons are the best.
Ah, so that makes sense... plot got really weird and absurd at that point. Sad to know it had to be that way, coz this is one of best these type of series.
Ok. so as much as I love this deleted scene, I already knew and felt Beckett's feelings of confusion and fears and insecurities. She's been like this when it comes to Castle since the beginning. Food To Die For and the apple cart conversation always stands out to me when it comes to Beckett's fears and doubts and insecurities when it comes to Castle and their relationship. I loved the ending arc and even the Vaughn moment added layers to Beckettand her mindset. That was so in character, IMO.
I've constantly thought watching series, was it Castle spesific or would she have been so protective with everyone? Coz I interpreted it that it wasnt just castle, it would have been hard for anyone(she explain it a bit in some episodes once mom case was opening/getting progress).
Perhaps right between Kate's meeting with Gates and her chat with Lanie? Would make sense given what she tells Lanie about the two of them never talking about their future. Plus hearing there's a chance she might get the job would make her contemplative.
One has nothing to do with the other... Circumstances/situations arise everyday. Just because we did something on Monday doesn't mean we have to do the same thing on Friday if something similar occurs. I could learn from the mistakes I made on Monday and do better on Friday or I could have done it right on Monday and screwed up on Friday. Anything could have happened on Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday that alters perception and behavior... I love the subtext and context of this show/characters.
I have a genuine question. Why did kate ever have doubts about castle's fidelity? Like that played a huge role in her not wanting to take the risk and date him but when has he ever cheated or not been serious about someone he was dating for that to be such a huge concern for her?
She didn't doubt his fidelity. She knew he cared deeply about her and loved her but Castle had *2* exwives and was known to be a playboy in his past. She wasn't sure how much of that was still in him. I think she was just realizing that she was Falling Hard for Castle, from the beginning he made her feel alive and brightened up her life in a way that she may have not experienced with others, Castle got past walls that only Beckett knew was there--- it made her want to keep him around but for her own heart protection, keep things at a distance. By this time in the series, she has let down all her guards for Castle, She wants to know that now that he 'has' her his desire for her won't dwindle or she could be wondering if even though she fell for him last, if she had fallen the hardest of the two.
i always think of the convo she had with Alexis' mom saying he never revealed much of himself and that she(Meredith/Kate) was always giving and he knew everything about her but it wasn't reciprocated.And also yes Beckett is realizing she really loves him deep and hadn't felt thatw ay before with anyone and was in uncharted waters and fears he has had practice where she hadn't at this level.
Thanks God they deleted it. Its unbelievable how two supposedly mature people can be so dumb. Besides it somehow fueled my thoughts that writers are very inconsistent and sometimes they dont know how to write Catle character. We have this deleted scene from Hunt where Castle knew what she was going to say even when his mind was preoccupied dealing with Alexis kidnapping but here in Watershed he is all blind? It totally doesn't make any sense.
Castle is known to deflect/evade/ignore or completely miss the point at times when it comes to Beckett. Some fans blame everything on her, but there are two people in this relationship. This scene is really no different than past moments shared when one of them is trying to figure out what the other is feeling. This isn't something unusual for these two to experience. Misconceptions, misassumptions, miscommunication, and insecurities, fears, and doubts. Caskett in a nutshell.
He was insecure was a reason. He had two failed marriages and Beckett could not see that. He thinks serious relationships do not work for him, so he was walking on the pace, Beckett dictated. And she did try to run to D.c, it was not for a job as her dad pointed out.
Ever since I watched "The Squab and the Quail" again, I have been more than a little peeved at KB's lack of faith in RC's dedication to to their relationship. Considering that the planned sequence was "Still", TS and TQ, The Human Factor and Watershed, I cannot fathom a story arc that starts with RC putting his life totally on the line for KB, only to have her give into a temporary flirtation and doubt HIS FIDELTY to them. I suppose it was done to heighten the dramatic tension, but I believe that RC's explosive reaction to her interview was entirely justified in light of HER OWN lack of faith in him. This has left me with a very uncomfortable feeling for their future which only a WEDDING and LITTLE CASTLE BABIES will put to rest.
not to fret it was simply the writing that was lacking...they tried to put doubts into kate and ultimately the viewers....so they cud write watershed as a break up but end with a proposal... i think they never thought this story through....cause if whe nu think about it: had kate really attempted to solve it, it would have been solved in squab.
Kate is a very close to a classic neurotic. While some point to her mother's death something else has to explain her fear of believing in others. Fortunately whatever was the cause seems to evaporate in season 6, specifically the end of 6x03 when she realizes how much he will give up for her (moving to DC)
andromedach Its not neurotic. She had doubts because they never talked about where they were going, she's just as dense as Castle when it comes to relationships. For Castle it's obvious he wants to spend the rest of his life with her, but for Beckett it isnt that much. Both of they need to actually SAY everything they feel because they're just blind when it comes to one another. That's the whole reason they didnt get together back in season 3 when they first kissed. Also, she has trust issues because of what happened to her mother, so she keeps her feelings for herself and thats why Castle had to fight for every single bit of trust. The fact that in season 6 she is more open and doesnt keep doubts to herself is because she learned her lesson and as she said herself: The walls came down. She's completely open to him. As mr. eyebrowstj also pointed out, Castle is VERY defensive when it comes to Beckett, because since she's the one he trully loves, she's also one of the only people who can actually hurt him deeply, and as they are both dense and tend to miscommunication, it has a pretty high chance of happening everytime a serious subject gets brought on table, so he evades these talks.
Rodrigo Capociama That would make sense only the trust issues are not consistent. What about the beginnig of season 5 when 3XK tried to frame Castle? If she should have any doubts she would have most reasons then and she didn't. I think she was affraid that she wants more when Castle is just enjoying the moment.
No I'm not. I am happy to see the deleted scenes & extras. People are always going to say which scenes they think shouldn't have been cut. That's not a complaint, it's an opinion. Asking why it was cut is just a question. So if Terri sees either as a complaint, she should lighten up.
Completely agree this should have been in the episode. May need to start thinking about ninety minute shows instead of only sixty minutes. ABC think outside of the box!
This has Watershed numbered as 523 b/c it originally was 523. Then they got the order for another episode, which was their 524. But for us, that episode was 521, Still. Confusing, I know.
I would much rather have seen this scene instead of the Ryan/Espo one where Ryan told Espo Jenny's pregnant. It would have curbed some of the unfair hatred that so many fans had for Kate. But of course, the 2 scenes would have to be the same length and I think that one's longer.
Ever since watershed I have seen an awful lot of Kate-hate. I think if this scene had been left in it would've helped some people to better understand her emotions/actions. That said I'm not sure where in the episode it would fit.
So dating is just exclusive for non-serious couples? Serious couples don't date? O_o Then how do they call it when they go out together to have a good time? Beckett's insecurity at the use of the word 'dating' by Castle doesn't seem justified to me... Even married couples 'date.'
YEA we women always want to know where we STAND but we dont always communicate that to men; sometimes we dont because we're scared the answer may not be what we want to hear....the bad thing is MEN ARENT MIND READERS; CASTLE is no exception...Still the fact that BECKETT was even thinking this meant SHE WANTS TO BE WITH CASTLE 4EVER; she knew what she wanted. If a woman doesnt want more WE DONT PONDER "WHERE WE GOIN" cuz we already know wherever were goin it aint with you; lol
Trust me, we men know right away what you're thinking if you jump back and forth with capital letters in a semi-incoherent sentence. But i'll break it down for you and yours, since you felt the need to do so for us. Men are simple, Castle just told her that he wanted her, in any and all capacity, with him, and for them to be together. If that makes you go full Karen mode... You just saved us money cause, you aint going to the Hamptons...
To me, this scene almost seems kinda out of place with the episode, not sure where it would have gone. And the two of them have always had communication issues with each other. They seem to say want they really want to when they have one of the big fights or are in a dangerous situation. I think the way the finale played fell more in line with how they are with each other and the characters we have known over the last 5 seasons.
What's a sook? She wouldn't have freaked out when she's the one asking. She's obviously ready to hear the answer and would not run from it. He wouldn't be pushing her into something she's not ready for.
Um first of all, my comment wasn't directed to or in reply to you so you can take all your negativity elsewhere. And secondly, I've seen a LOT of people hating on Kate since season 5 ended. Someone just said (a couple of comments before me) that they would not have been so hard on her if this scene was kept in the episode. And that wasn't the first person I've seen say that so the thought that "nobody hates beckett or castle or blames the entire thing on either of them" is dead wrong.
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I miss this show
Me too but I can't find anywhere to find it
@@marissawaugh3238 amazon prime video
@@marissawaugh3238 it's on ABC channel 7 NYC. After the evening news . Sunday midnight till 2am Monday morning. Enjoy.
You can watch it on DVD
On Lifetime now.
WHY ON EARTH DID THEY DELETE THIS SCENE! URRRG! this adds so much to the episode, and i mean the whole episode.. this explains so many emotions..
well, at least we got to see it, somehow
I never could understand her insecurity. She had
taken this long to be with Castle, so he is scared too. He thinks after two failed marriages. She will run too. The writers never highlighted this, it is obvious.
That is a great scene and would have helped show how clueless Castle was being in regards to moving the relationship past dating. Stana is so fabulous showing her emotions.
I think that scene was suppose to go before the talk with Lanie(it makes so much sense the whole thing)
I missed this show and started to watch reruns in N. Y. On ABC channel 7. On Sundays midnight to 2am Monday morning.
I don't think that he is clueless he just never
knows how she reacts to things there is no doubt that he
loves her he's proved it how many times and when a man stays with you
not knowing if your going to be blow away that speaks to this is more that just
two people dating.
Indeed!!!! PLUS wasn't this in... "Rise of the machines" as I call it lol?! They already exchanged mutual "I love you"s (at looooooooong last but still!!! (;P)) if that doesn't say "dating" I mean seriously, monogamous, committed dating I don't know what does!! I'm glad they deleted this scene coz it doesn't make any sense!!! Kit's whole insecurities didn't make any sense!!! She shoulda just talked it out with Rich and figured it out as a couple!!! That's what stage they're at - the couple stage, past dating!!!!
Now we all know Caskett were awesome, beautiful, strooooong, magic, REAL etc. etc. but sometimes the writing was a little hinky n'ais pas??
omg he kissed her on the head
It shows how she is feeling confused about where the relationship is going. However, I do think that the two should've sat down and talked about where things were going instead of continually working through the emotions. I feel the scene with Vaughn kind of takes this into complexity on how she feels. Although I don't agree with Vaughn kissing her in the first place, on the other hand, I think it adds more depth to what she feels for Castle. Again, they just need to sit down and talk it out instead of working through the emotions.
One of my favorite all time shows S 1 - 6. Once they got together and the friction between the actors became an issue it lost much of it's charm. Kept needing to separate them with story lines. I've binged it twice during covid and still love it but the early seasons are the best.
After they started banging, the show went to hell!!
I agree 😁
Ah, so that makes sense... plot got really weird and absurd at that point. Sad to know it had to be that way, coz this is one of best these type of series.
What was the friction between the actors?
@@ryanabate1981 Couldn't stand each other. Even went to couples counseling. Later seasons they went with separate story lines to keep them apart.
Never watched the squab and the quail, it's the only one of the whole series I can't watch and I don't know why
So cute when he kisses her head
Well this explains a lot. Thanks editors.
Ok. so as much as I love this deleted scene, I already knew and felt Beckett's feelings of confusion and fears and insecurities. She's been like this when it comes to Castle since the beginning.
Food To Die For and the apple cart conversation always stands out to me when it comes to Beckett's fears and doubts and insecurities when it comes to Castle and their relationship.
I loved the ending arc and even the Vaughn moment added layers to Beckettand her mindset. That was so in character, IMO.
I've constantly thought watching series, was it Castle spesific or would she have been so protective with everyone? Coz I interpreted it that it wasnt just castle, it would have been hard for anyone(she explain it a bit in some episodes once mom case was opening/getting progress).
I love Castle and Beckett and I understand why they both do what they do.
Perhaps right between Kate's meeting with Gates and her chat with Lanie? Would make sense given what she tells Lanie about the two of them never talking about their future. Plus hearing there's a chance she might get the job would make her contemplative.
this was uploaded on my birthday ;D
Actually Stana Katic's birthday is April 26th.
@@hannahlillian9731 a friend of mine was born on 26th of april
I think this will fit more Watershed than The Human Factor. Put this scene right before she visit Lanie.
This is from Watershed, and really should have been in the episode. Would have added so much context to Beckett's feelings and actions. Damn.
Agree, they made huge mistake deleting this scene.
thank u so much, you have been very kind!! :)
One has nothing to do with the other... Circumstances/situations arise everyday. Just because we did something on Monday doesn't mean we have to do the same thing on Friday if something similar occurs. I could learn from the mistakes I made on Monday and do better on Friday or I could have done it right on Monday and screwed up on Friday. Anything could have happened on Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday that alters perception and behavior... I love the subtext and context of this show/characters.
I have a genuine question. Why did kate ever have doubts about castle's fidelity? Like that played a huge role in her not wanting to take the risk and date him but when has he ever cheated or not been serious about someone he was dating for that to be such a huge concern for her?
She didn't doubt his fidelity. She knew he cared deeply about her and loved her but Castle had *2* exwives and was known to be a playboy in his past. She wasn't sure how much of that was still in him. I think she was just realizing that she was Falling Hard for Castle, from the beginning he made her feel alive and brightened up her life in a way that she may have not experienced with others, Castle got past walls that only Beckett knew was there--- it made her want to keep him around but for her own heart protection, keep things at a distance.
By this time in the series, she has let down all her guards for Castle, She wants to know that now that he 'has' her his desire for her won't dwindle or she could be wondering if even though she fell for him last, if she had fallen the hardest of the two.
i always think of the convo she had with Alexis' mom saying he never revealed much of himself and that she(Meredith/Kate) was always giving and he knew everything about her but it wasn't reciprocated.And also yes Beckett is realizing she really loves him deep and hadn't felt thatw ay before with anyone and was in uncharted waters and fears he has had practice where she hadn't at this level.
I agree. Remember when she told Castle she did not want to wake him up. This would fit.
I'm in agreement on this point. Peace be w/ you
0:13 kate was crying... :(
Should not delete this.
Thanks God they deleted it. Its unbelievable how two supposedly mature people can be so dumb. Besides it somehow fueled my thoughts that writers are very inconsistent and sometimes they dont know how to write Catle character. We have this deleted scene from Hunt where Castle knew what she was going to say even when his mind was preoccupied dealing with Alexis kidnapping but here in Watershed he is all blind? It totally doesn't make any sense.
Ouch! Was that my heart that just broke for kate? Yeah it is!
This^ and this situation is getting on my nerves..I swear If I see someone hating on Kate once again.. I will lost it!
Castle is known to deflect/evade/ignore or completely miss the point at times when it comes to Beckett. Some fans blame everything on her, but there are two people in this relationship. This scene is really no different than past moments shared when one of them is trying to figure out what the other is feeling. This isn't something unusual for these two to experience. Misconceptions, misassumptions, miscommunication, and insecurities, fears, and doubts. Caskett in a nutshell.
He was insecure was a reason. He had two failed marriages and Beckett could not see that. He thinks serious relationships do not work for him, so he was walking on the pace, Beckett dictated. And she did try to run to D.c, it was not for a job as her dad pointed out.
Ever since I watched "The Squab and the Quail" again, I have been more than a little peeved at KB's lack of faith in RC's dedication to to their relationship. Considering that the planned sequence was "Still", TS and TQ, The Human Factor and Watershed, I cannot fathom a story arc that starts with RC putting his life totally on the line for KB, only to have her give into a temporary flirtation and doubt HIS FIDELTY to them. I suppose it was done to heighten the dramatic tension, but I believe that RC's explosive reaction to her interview was entirely justified in light of HER OWN lack of faith in him. This has left me with a very uncomfortable feeling for their future which only a WEDDING and LITTLE CASTLE BABIES will put to rest.
not to fret it was simply the writing that was lacking...they tried to put doubts into kate and ultimately the viewers....so they cud write watershed as a break up but end with a proposal...
i think they never thought this story through....cause if whe nu think about it: had kate really attempted to solve it, it would have been solved in squab.
Kate is a very close to a classic neurotic. While some point to her mother's death something else has to explain her fear of believing in others. Fortunately whatever was the cause seems to evaporate in season 6, specifically the end of 6x03 when she realizes how much he will give up for her (moving to DC)
andromedach Its not neurotic. She had doubts because they never talked about where they were going, she's just as dense as Castle when it comes to relationships. For Castle it's obvious he wants to spend the rest of his life with her, but for Beckett it isnt that much. Both of they need to actually SAY everything they feel because they're just blind when it comes to one another. That's the whole reason they didnt get together back in season 3 when they first kissed. Also, she has trust issues because of what happened to her mother, so she keeps her feelings for herself and thats why Castle had to fight for every single bit of trust.
The fact that in season 6 she is more open and doesnt keep doubts to herself is because she learned her lesson and as she said herself: The walls came down. She's completely open to him.
As mr. eyebrowstj also pointed out, Castle is VERY defensive when it comes to Beckett, because since she's the one he trully loves, she's also one of the only people who can actually hurt him deeply, and as they are both dense and tend to miscommunication, it has a pretty high chance of happening everytime a serious subject gets brought on table, so he evades these talks.
Rodrigo Capociama That would make sense only the trust issues are not consistent. What about the beginnig of season 5 when 3XK tried to frame Castle? If she should have any doubts she would have most reasons then and she didn't. I think she was affraid that she wants more when Castle is just enjoying the moment.
Leeny Trust issues doesn't mean she doesn't trust him at all... She knows him enough to know he'd never do something like that O.o
No I'm not. I am happy to see the deleted scenes & extras. People are always going to say which scenes they think shouldn't have been cut. That's not a complaint, it's an opinion. Asking why it was cut is just a question. So if Terri sees either as a complaint, she should lighten up.
I agree with you on that and lets not forget her
reaction to the name Jordan!
Great scene. Can't understand why it was deleted.
God,could you imagine dating Stana Katic? Wow!❤️❤️❤️
Completely agree this should have been in the episode. May need to start thinking about ninety minute shows instead of only sixty minutes. ABC think outside of the box!
They should not have deleted this scene.
there's no reason they can't go to the Hamptons more than once. ;) He does have a house there.
This has Watershed numbered as 523 b/c it originally was 523. Then they got the order for another episode, which was their 524. But for us, that episode was 521, Still. Confusing, I know.
You are def blind if you don't see the Hate that Kate got after the season finale..
i dont understand her.she has no ground justifying her questioning their relationship. he has proven so much
Yeah, I looked it up. I don't think it describes her.
I would much rather have seen this scene instead of the Ryan/Espo one where Ryan told Espo Jenny's pregnant. It would have curbed some of the unfair hatred that so many fans had for Kate. But of course, the 2 scenes would have to be the same length and I think that one's longer.
Ever since watershed I have seen an awful lot of Kate-hate. I think if this scene had been left in it would've helped some people to better understand her emotions/actions. That said I'm not sure where in the episode it would fit.
OMG BEST VIDEO EVER
Please, need the next scene.
So dating is just exclusive for non-serious couples? Serious couples don't date? O_o Then how do they call it when they go out together to have a good time? Beckett's insecurity at the use of the word 'dating' by Castle doesn't seem justified to me... Even married couples 'date.'
Maybe that's the reason why they didn't use that scene.
YEA we women always want to know where we STAND but we dont always communicate that to men; sometimes we dont because we're scared the answer may not be what we want to hear....the bad thing is MEN ARENT MIND READERS; CASTLE is no exception...Still the fact that BECKETT was even thinking this meant SHE WANTS TO BE WITH CASTLE 4EVER; she knew what she wanted. If a woman doesnt want more WE DONT PONDER "WHERE WE GOIN" cuz we already know wherever were goin it aint with you; lol
aka dusk then don't play games
Trust me, we men know right away what you're thinking if you jump back and forth with capital letters in a semi-incoherent sentence. But i'll break it down for you and yours, since you felt the need to do so for us. Men are simple, Castle just told her that he wanted her, in any and all capacity, with him, and for them to be together. If that makes you go full Karen mode... You just saved us money cause, you aint going to the Hamptons...
Saintbow that last part 😂
@@Saintbow I think men are complicated in general, Castle was an exception. He is simple .
To me, this scene almost seems kinda out of place with the episode, not sure where it would have gone. And the two of them have always had communication issues with each other. They seem to say want they really want to when they have one of the big fights or are in a dangerous situation. I think the way the finale played fell more in line with how they are with each other and the characters we have known over the last 5 seasons.
What's a sook? She wouldn't have freaked out when she's the one asking. She's obviously ready to hear the answer and would not run from it. He wouldn't be pushing her into something she's not ready for.
Action is good. However, for some people they need to here the words. For Kate she fits the latter. Its always about the words with her.
What's wrong with the comparison?.... If you don't like the show you're not obliged to watch.
Not from Watershed. From The Human Factor
But he mentions taking a trip to the Hamptons, which was early in the season... so shouldn't this scene be from prior to that episode?
its from watershed..
Makes no sense if this is episode 23 of season 5.
WHAT IS AIR I CAN'T BREATHE GUYS
But otherwise not important, we need to see we can not stand up to the 10th, please. And Stana special too.
OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
Um first of all, my comment wasn't directed to or in reply to you so you can take all your negativity elsewhere. And secondly, I've seen a LOT of people hating on Kate since season 5 ended. Someone just said (a couple of comments before me) that they would not have been so hard on her if this scene was kept in the episode. And that wasn't the first person I've seen say that so the thought that "nobody hates beckett or castle or blames the entire thing on either of them" is dead wrong.
trojanqtie
i love stana
Now.. quit thinking so much it, makes your forehead all wrinkly, like I'm dating a Sharpei.. ROFL!!
I like the scene but it's kinda boring, i see why it was cut
C
7x20
Its the writers fault , they are always trying to throw shit in the game and break them up , but they always make castle look good and kate look bad
A sook is a whiny person who sulks when things don't go their way.
Someone can write what she said at 0.23 and at the end?? Please please..thank u
0:23 she said: Yeah..among other things
or something like that, I‘m german so I can‘t be sure
is that suppose to look like she is not wearing make up?
What episode is it?
"be all gay" does not make sense whatsoever
Sorry, I never believed the romantic relationship between them. Good chemistry between them as friends but not as lovers.