Who owns the copyright for AI Music? | Q+A

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  • Also, how to get quasi-perfect pitch, learning about emotions and musical intervals, and my personal approach to bass fills!
    Many thanks to Ben Hudson, james frank, Thomas Carmichael, Trey O'Brien and Freetival Music for their questions!
    0:13 Who owns the copyright for AI Music?
    4:11 How do the bandleaders on your gig vlogs always sing the melodies in the right key?
    7:11 What's cool about the vocal harmonies on Bury A Friend by Billie Eilish?
    8:48 What resources are there for categorizing intervals/chords/scales by emotion?
    10:51 What is your approach to bass fills, specifically in that one Sarah Longfield tune you played over on instagram?
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Komentáře • 976

  • @AdamNeely
    @AdamNeely  Před 5 lety +760

    the licc in this episode is xenharmonic. bagel 🥯 goes to the first person who can identify the temperament

    • @MisterManDuck
      @MisterManDuck Před 5 lety +39

      ...I'mma guess something that's in the realm of 22edo or Porcupine.

    • @candle_eatist
      @candle_eatist Před 5 lety +40

      I know nothing about theory but love your vids still

    • @putridabomination
      @putridabomination Před 5 lety +5

      @@candle_eatist same

    • @Jason-nq2il
      @Jason-nq2il Před 5 lety +42

      Gonna have to guess 13TET because of 12tone’s recent vid.

    • @EchoHeo
      @EchoHeo Před 5 lety +6

      @@Jason-nq2il nah it don't sound 13 edo-ish

  • @mercurydrive9720
    @mercurydrive9720 Před 5 lety +376

    the Levitin effect is when you know how a G sounds for your entire life because you listened to Welcome to the Black Parade a few too many times as a teenager.

    • @sofiagarella9302
      @sofiagarella9302 Před 5 lety +7

      MercuryDrive i was so dissapointed he didnt mention the black parade

    • @tia8099
      @tia8099 Před 5 lety

      I-

    • @jerbear97
      @jerbear97 Před 5 lety +1

      G note intensifies

    • @vanillaannihilation5871
      @vanillaannihilation5871 Před 5 lety +1

      This song might sound familiar then.
      czcams.com/video/KjeQEQj4E4Q/video.html

    • @SlyHikari03
      @SlyHikari03 Před 5 lety +8

      I know the E chord because of Roundabout by Yes.

  • @julienheller4349
    @julienheller4349 Před 5 lety +67

    I thought I had perfect pitch for the longest time, until I went to music conservatory and met people who *really* had perfect pitch. It seems that when you have perfect pitch, you hear tones like you see colors- you don't have to think to know you're looking at red. For me, though, I developed a process from when I was about 7 years old (about a year after I started playing). It started similarly to how it was described in the video- I was able to auralize my four open violin strings absolutely. Since I had these, I used them as a base to play a full imaginary violin in my head, mnemonically linked to the physical experience of playing each note. I would hear a pitch, which would trigger a memory of a physical sensation of playing and hearing the note, which I then translated into a note name based on finger position (or even "in-between" note names, as I knew how those felt too). I practiced this in my head so often that I became increasingly good at it, to the point where I didn't need to explicitly process it through that system- hearing a note to naming became more and more seamless. And, since this practice was through auralization, my pitch sense was not dependent on timbre. For a while, I did have difficulty identifying notes lower than G below middle C, since that was my lowest note on the violin, but I figured out how to aurally "transform" what I was hearing up octaves to match my imaginary aural violin.
    But again, I don't have perfect pitch. People who have perfect pitch can't "turn it off", much in the same way you can't choose to not see colors. For me, even though it's relatively effortless, it is still a proactive exercise that requires a certain level of deliberateness.
    I like to call what I have as "perfected pitch"!

    • @MisterNohbdy
      @MisterNohbdy Před 4 lety +4

      Oh, hey, you're the first person I've seen who's also done that! That's similar to what I do with piano. I can do the process quickly enough in my head that people can't tell the difference, so it's been essentially indistinguishable from perfect pitch ever since I was eight, but it's a trained skill instead of a natural ability. And, like you, until a few years ago I assumed that was just what everyone else called perfect pitch.
      Anything outside of the middle three octaves on a piano takes me a moment longer to process, though, which is probably the main difference I've noticed between myself and people who have actual perfect pitch.
      The funny thing is that I didn't intentionally train it. When I was seven, my piano teacher started teaching me to recognize intervals, and I just found it quicker to identify the individual notes in my head and count the interval manually, so I figured out a method to recognize individual notes. When she realized a few minutes later what I was doing, she tested me on separate notes and came to the conclusion that I had perfect pitch, and I believed it until I was in my 20s. Oops.

    • @bayleev7494
      @bayleev7494 Před 4 lety +1

      Haha, yeah I do this too. Just a couple differences though. Firstly both of you say that you developed it at 7, but I actually developed this at 13! I wasn't sure how, because everyone says that it's impossible to develop it later than 6, but then I started to realise that it wasn't really perfect pitch (one of my friends actually does have perfect pitch and we could see the differences). Secondly, I played multiple instruments by this time, so I'm not actually sure which I used as my tonal reference. I think it's a combination of piano and vocals (even though I'm terrible at singing), but I certainly won't be forgetting the tone of a low C on a baritone saxophone any time soon.

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L Před rokem

      That’s really interesting. And further confirms that I almost certainly do have it - I certainly can’t turn it off, and it’s not instrument-specific. (Though with certain timbres my brain locks-on to certain overtones more strongly than the root and confuses things! In that case the “effort” part comes on filtering them out and trying to focus on the actual root frequency, rather than focusing on trying to identify!)

  • @sixthfloormemories1566
    @sixthfloormemories1566 Před 5 lety +271

    Ah, the answer is in the thumbnail again. I love it when you do that!

  • @joanbautista
    @joanbautista Před 5 lety +86

    "Play the right fills but only when are necessary" should be another shirt

  • @EoPatrux
    @EoPatrux Před 5 lety +122

    Hey Adam, in a world of tenors and countertenors taking over popular and even underground music (like metal genres), how can baritone voices pop out without "faking" being low tenors? Keep going, my man

    • @SebiStr99
      @SebiStr99 Před 5 lety +17

      As someone with a bass voice I second this question

    • @jamieleroux2223
      @jamieleroux2223 Před 5 lety +8

      @@SebiStr99 As another bass I third this question

    • @Shasha_Mynx
      @Shasha_Mynx Před 5 lety +7

      What's the functional difference between your baritone voice and a tenor 2? At a certain point I think vocal classes vary up and down by such a fraction of their range that it puts you in a box more than it helps you communicate and learn about your voice like broader categories do. So, are you concerned about your timbre? What pitches you can hit? I'm sorry for rambling but I've recently had a few conversations with friends about this and that's where we landed.

    • @drakonyanazkar
      @drakonyanazkar Před 5 lety +2

      As someone learning how to sing Bluegrass, I *need* that answer.

    • @nickl2854
      @nickl2854 Před 5 lety

      Yet another bass, please answer this

  • @RudyAyoub
    @RudyAyoub Před 5 lety +17

    Deep purple probably

  • @jacktravis2718
    @jacktravis2718 Před 5 lety +5

    As a drummer, I feel you, only play the fills when absolutely needed.

  • @madmiico
    @madmiico Před 5 lety +74

    nobody:
    the captions at 12:12: *killing is fun and can add a lot of excitement*

  • @Kingsleyrulz
    @Kingsleyrulz Před 5 lety +130

    "Exploit" "labor" "theory" oh yea that's the stuff

    • @NeivGabay
      @NeivGabay Před 5 lety +15

      Adam "bread" neely
      Edit:nvm he went full kropotkin

  • @klokmedia
    @klokmedia Před 5 lety +7

    In 10 years - ‘who owns copyright for ai music?’ ‘Disney probably.’

  • @NothingHereButMe
    @NothingHereButMe Před 5 lety +57

    You could maybe call that ‘not perfect’ perfect pitch “timbral memory”

    • @miguelonfiddle
      @miguelonfiddle Před 5 lety +9

      This has been particularly interesting for me, as I do not have perfect pitch, but the tuner that we used in our high school orchestra class would play through the speakers every so slightly flat, so I have the ability to sing that same slightly flat A without provided previous context. However, I can not reproduce this with any other pitches, but I can use that same A and use relative pitch to simulate a degree of perfect pitch. I never could figure out what this phenomena was called, so I just called it "tone retention". I'd be really curious to see any studies performed about this topic.

    • @NothingHereButMe
      @NothingHereButMe Před 5 lety

      Scirs it’s fascinating. I have a friend with synthesia where sounds - not pitches - elicit a taste response. Certain chords have do have a taste, but apparently it’s mainly to do with timbre

    • @ahreuwu
      @ahreuwu Před 2 lety

      @@miguelonfiddle Yes, that tone retention effect is amazing. I watched Adam's A = 432 video way too many fucking times, and there's a point in the video where he plays a choir at 440 and the same choir at 432 seconds later. I'm somehow able to sing the same note that the choir was singing in 432 fairly accurately!
      Tone retention is my only way of associating pitch to specific notes due to my lack of formal music theory and lack of perfect pitch (or even relative pitch).

  • @DristanRossVII
    @DristanRossVII Před 5 lety +139

    Adam Bandleader Gig Vlog Thing ... ABGVT ... Abigivity. There we go. I'll be calling it abigivity.

    • @kaykaleli
      @kaykaleli Před 5 lety +19

      Boom. You literally just gave it it's official name. I will remember you when this becomes popular.

    • @charlie6588
      @charlie6588 Před 5 lety +7

      What about anbigivity, being Adam Neely bandleader gig vlog thing anbgvt

    • @Felishamois
      @Felishamois Před 5 lety

      Nice! How's about adabigivity? Rolls slightly better off the tongue I find

    • @trevormacdonald5110
      @trevormacdonald5110 Před 5 lety

      Hows it pronounced? Ab-ee-jiv-it-ee? Abe-i-give-it-ee?

    • @Yin7094
      @Yin7094 Před 5 lety +1

      @@Felishamois nah... i like Abigivity. it makes more sense if you pronounce it ae-buh-jiv-itee. and abigivity is a pretty nice skill to have. I.E.: "wow your abigivity is off the charts man!"

  • @KwinterGuitar
    @KwinterGuitar Před 5 lety +179

    Some more fantastic anti clickbait there Adam

  • @lysergicserpent7676
    @lysergicserpent7676 Před 5 lety +59

    My dude coming through with the class conscious material analysis today. Hellz yeah

    • @mysigt_
      @mysigt_ Před 5 lety

      J John i don’t care if you’re a dirty commie, i still love you

    • @Glandist
      @Glandist Před 5 lety +14

      Occasionally Adam says something sarcastic about capitalism like that and I cry from joy

    • @lysergicserpent7676
      @lysergicserpent7676 Před 5 lety +5

      Glandist yeah I've been low key following his leftist radicalization, parallel to my own, and I'm never sure if it's a gradual ideological development or a gradual "mask off mahfahs" thing but either way, you love to see it

    • @elspethdykstra3431
      @elspethdykstra3431 Před 5 lety +1

      based marxist adam neely

    • @terrymac6
      @terrymac6 Před 4 lety

      Yeah level up that class consciousness!

  • @RoeShamBoe
    @RoeShamBoe Před 5 lety +36

    the proper legal analysis regarding copyright attaching to a creative work "created by AI" is as follows: Whoever wrote the code that the AI uses to "create" the music is the copyright holder. If the programmer is working for a large company, most likely all copyrights are transferred to the company immediately upon creation as per the employee agreement (similar to how comic book writers' copyrights are transferred immediately upon creation).
    AI isn't really "intelligence" - it's just subroutines pre-programmed by a software engineer; i.e., just another mechanical step in the chain going backwards until you get to the "human" in this case, the programmer. In this case, the computer performing the AI creative work is analogous to a guitar or piano, it's just a tool used by the human creator to create the intended work.

    • @photios4779
      @photios4779 Před 5 lety +12

      That's arguable, at least under American law. The U.S. Copyright Office has stated that it "will not register works produced by a machine or mere mechanical process that operates randomly or automatically without any creative input or intervention from a human author.” However, there are ongoing academic and legal discussions in a number of countries about how to apply copyright to AI produced works, so it's possible that copyright law will change in the future.
      One concern I have about assigning copyright to works created by AI is that a computer program can pump out works much faster than any human can. This makes it far more likely that someone's independent creation will be "strikingly similar" to a work previously produced by AI. American courts generally will find infringement occurred without needing to prove the defendant had access to the plaintiff's work if the two are "strikingly similar" (and if access can be proven, the lower standard of "substantially similar" is used). It would be a terrible outcome for AI to crowd out the entire range of creative expressions by producing every possible combination of something so that everyone else had to pay licensing fees to use the fruits of their own creative efforts. This scenario isn't so farfetched:
      www.techdirt.com/articles/20140929/08500728662/new-company-claims-it-uses-algorithms-to-create-content-faster-than-creators-can-making-all-future-creations-infringing.shtml

    • @josephcarriveau9691
      @josephcarriveau9691 Před 5 lety +8

      @@photios4779 I think you're spot on with that concern. Even if "a computer" can meet all four of the criteria for copyright (Adam missed one), American courts will probably not honor it for practical reasons, like using programs to rapidly copyright as many "random" combinations of design elements to then plug into something like the Content ID system Google uses to find targets for slap suits.

    • @qwerty687687
      @qwerty687687 Před 5 lety +3

      But then, the company that builds your piano doesn't hold the copyright to the music you write on your piano.

    • @teasdaye
      @teasdaye Před 5 lety +1

      @@photios4779 >randomly or automatically without any creative input or intervention from a human author
      The thing is, this boils down to nothing but completely randomly generated meaningless noise. These "AI songs" we're usually talking about most definitely involve creative input and intervention. They require some kind of a context to work with, even if that context is just something as simplistic as examples of harmony or rhythm, and that in an of itself is already a form of creative input that's absolutely vital to getting the script to eventually generate anything that humans would even distantly recognize as music.
      If I were forced to pick who the copyright to an AI-generated piece of music belongs to, I'd say whoever trained the AI to do so, because that's the person who did the creative input. If it's untrained, whatever the AI generated is random meaningless data anyway, so there's nothing to copyright there.

    • @a.o.2151
      @a.o.2151 Před 5 lety

      @@qwerty687687 No, that's really different though. The player piano builder doesn't either, but the guy who wrote the music for the player piano to play, has copyright on the scrolls and the pieces imprinted on them. And if that guy made the machine choose from different motifs while playing the roll, what could then be copyrighted? Every single combination of these simple motifs? Writing a program that can play "original" music is different from building a machine that someon can play "orginal" music ON.

  • @gabypb7532
    @gabypb7532 Před 5 lety +33

    Oblique motion also happens in the vocals of the Sound of Silence

  • @Patricia_Taxxon
    @Patricia_Taxxon Před 5 lety +13

    did someone say copyright

  • @AWMail-uw3hb
    @AWMail-uw3hb Před 5 lety

    Hey Adam, I really appreciate how whenever you put a question in the title, you also put the answer in the thumbnail. Complete opposite of clickbait and really refreshing!

  • @adancein
    @adancein Před 5 lety +2

    1:45 This editing is so excellent, i am in awe. Thank you!

  • @willhissettmusic
    @willhissettmusic Před 5 lety +3

    I love your videos Adam! Been a fan for a good few years now. Keep up the good work bro! BASS

  • @violet_broregarde
    @violet_broregarde Před 5 lety +11

    Computer music is absolutely creative. All humans do when they're being "creative" is taking things that they already know and mixing them and put them together. "Spitting out music forever" is basically what humans do when they're composing, they're just not recording all the music they're spitting out like an AI would.

    • @JulioLeonFandinho
      @JulioLeonFandinho Před 5 lety +4

      The problem is not creativity, is rights... and the question here would be could an AI have rights?
      Some animals can produce music and other arts forms but still they're not considered subjects of law... although there's a discussion going on about that matter, why an AI (a 'machine' if you want) should be considered, as some animals (sentients beings similar to humans in that way) subjects of law, if an AI is no more than a bunch of algorythms put together?

    • @Chaosdude341
      @Chaosdude341 Před 5 lety

      @Gabriel Vinícius do Nascimento did you happen to listen to the most recent Lex podcast on Joe Rogan, or the other futurist gent? Definitely reminds me. AI will be a person eventually, but I'm not sure where that point starts.

    • @AmateurDead
      @AmateurDead Před 5 lety

      @Gabriel Vinícius do Nascimento Humans are not a bunch of algorithms put together, and even if they were there is nothing to suggest computers could ever be capable of reproducing them. I don't just mean in terms of technological limitations, but more in the limitations of the kind of maths computers deal with.

  • @cimmik
    @cimmik Před 5 lety

    Now I haven't watched all your recent Q+A videos, so I don't know if this is a general thing, but I really like how you have aswer fewer questions and instead spend more time on each than you've done earlier.

  • @JRay6017
    @JRay6017 Před 5 lety

    Always learn something from Neely! Thanks for the expansion!

  • @smoothwaterbear
    @smoothwaterbear Před 5 lety +266

    i'm sorry adam but that one box in the back is really stressing me out

    • @hlokomani
      @hlokomani Před 5 lety +4

      s ame

    • @carolushirokisatyanegara7044
      @carolushirokisatyanegara7044 Před 5 lety +2

      Hey Adam i have a question for your next q&a. Is it possible to play a 3 4 melody/groove over a 4 4 beat?

    • @notmozart8866
      @notmozart8866 Před 5 lety +8

      @@carolushirokisatyanegara7044 Kashmir by Led Zeppelin is the answer for your question

    • @ornleifs
      @ornleifs Před 5 lety +4

      @@carolushirokisatyanegara7044 You can mix any meters - if you play 3 in 4 they would meet on the One, every three bars - three times four is 12 and four times three is 12 - this is done a lot at the ending of Ragas, they play some phrase that's shorter or longer than the underlying beat and after certain repetitions they end together on the One.

    • @nightspicer
      @nightspicer Před 5 lety +4

      oh no! why have you done this to me??

  • @bytenommer
    @bytenommer Před 5 lety +12

    Tuning a machine learning algorithm can take a lot of creativity. It's not just a black box which works every time (just look at the Google Bach thing). You need to tinker with the parameters to get it just right. I think machine composing is just as much of an art form as traditional composing.

    • @TheStuF
      @TheStuF Před 5 lety +1

      as Leif said, if Humans program it to do something specific or a Human must control it in some way/select parts it creates then it is a machine being USED to create and the Human(s) are responsible. The question really is "will AI ever *truly* exist?" because for a machine to create on its own it must first create a "mind of its own".

  • @ottolaakso1944
    @ottolaakso1944 Před 5 lety

    Just want to say that I appreciate how much thought, care and (I assume) research you put in to these Q&A videos. With a channel as popular as yours, many would probably choose to half-ass these kinds of videos. You don't.
    So thank you.

  • @Jamie_kemp
    @Jamie_kemp Před 5 lety +2

    loving the new background 👌

  • @telecasteroil
    @telecasteroil Před 5 lety +6

    So much room reverb , it sounded sweet , I'd love to record acoustic in that room , great video.

  • @11kravitzn
    @11kravitzn Před 5 lety +13

    If you are a composer, working with AI or neural nets or any other sort of algorithm, there is a huge amount that goes into that. There is any number of knobs to turn so that the algorithm produces the sort of music you want it to make. It's not like you just push a button and "good music" comes out. Granted, it will be music that is optimized or constrained or patterned in a (hopefully) good way, but the composer always defines what "good" means, here. Often the case is a composer will have the algorithm produce a number of options, or try a number of inputs or parameters, and then choose her favorite.
    It's not really all that different than composing according to some recipe or style. A 12-tone series is a sort of algorithm. Counterpoint is a sort of algorithm. Composing in the style of Mozart or Chopin is a sort of algorithm. With each of these, some things are left constrained and others are left free, but this is also true of composing with AI or computers generally.
    In the extreme case, perhaps, say we develop an AI system and then let it do "what it wants", compose "freely". And then we dutifully publish whatever it comes up with. Who should have that copyright? Do we get it? Does the system get it? Does no one get it? That's less clear, but that is hardly the case at all. Arguably, the developers of the system indirectly produced the music and so they should get the copyright. It then becomes unclear again if the system is used by a non-developer (do they get the copyright? Do the developers?).
    personally, I'm not a fan of the copyright system in general, so I see this not as a problem of how to fix it in the context of the existing system, but as an indication that the system should be pretty much scrapped.

    • @vojtechsalbaba8780
      @vojtechsalbaba8780 Před 5 lety +3

      If you are an engineer, creating the AI or neural net or any other sort of algorithm which will allow knobs to be turned and music to be produced - there is a huge amount of work and expertise that goes into that.

    • @sararose1688
      @sararose1688 Před 5 lety

      It’s kind of like making a mii from scratch, or from a look alike

  • @christophermartin9127
    @christophermartin9127 Před 5 lety

    loved that outro!!

  • @drumuchy
    @drumuchy Před 5 lety

    Great stuff, man! As usual! Love your work! Keep it up! And thanks for everything you do for the community!

  • @michaelrobinson9023
    @michaelrobinson9023 Před 5 lety +13

    To the question posed by James Frank: if I'm understanding the question correctly, I've heard it called "tonal memory."

  • @wynneview
    @wynneview Před 5 lety +20

    I showed my high school music teacher your channel and he said "ew, it's on bass!"
    ..just thought it was funny

    • @SlyHikari03
      @SlyHikari03 Před 5 lety +1

      I think he hates bass.

    • @crnkmnky
      @crnkmnky Před 5 lety +3

      sure, I guess it's funny that your teacher is a *bacist…* 😒

  • @spnountky
    @spnountky Před 4 lety

    Hello, recently discovered your channel. Just wanted to say I love your editing/teaching technique. To explain something and then show an exemple right away is really enjoyable and helpful. Many Thanks

  • @ALF8892
    @ALF8892 Před 4 lety

    I can't stop watching your videos dude.

  • @braptrap9923
    @braptrap9923 Před 5 lety +3

    Adam: "Adam Bandleader Gig Vlog Thing"
    Me: *self-diagnosis*

  • @Adrian-yz7oe
    @Adrian-yz7oe Před 5 lety +20

    Hi Adam! Do you know if birds sing our notes/scales? I've been listening to a foreign bird and tried to recreate its chant in my piano but it seems a bit off.. it's very curious how birds use rithmic figures or even seem to adjust to a tempo. I love your videos! greetings from Spain.

    • @callumwoulahan7681
      @callumwoulahan7681 Před 5 lety +3

      Great question man I've wondered that too. I'd also like to know how music theory applies to other animals, like whale songs or frogs/crickets chirping.

    • @ErebosGR
      @ErebosGR Před 5 lety +1

      Check out Jeff Beck's Blackbird.

    • @lifeontheledgerlines8394
      @lifeontheledgerlines8394 Před 5 lety

      There's a section in this video of a bird (I believe it's a parakeet) singing the Game of Thrones theme.
      czcams.com/video/cpuH3DnvQmE/video.html&lc=UgzcCpLLqDTQz4sQbip4AaABAg

    • @UrMom-kr5jx
      @UrMom-kr5jx Před 5 lety +1

      Olivier messiaen recorded and transcribed bird songs www.oliviermessiaen.org/birdsongs.html
      Many sing using the harmonic series and microtones

    • @pajamaman7
      @pajamaman7 Před 5 lety +2

      There's a Reddit thread in r/musictheory I saw about this

  • @alphahorn6163
    @alphahorn6163 Před 5 lety

    I think it's high time that you speak of the 1-4-5 progression. The history of it and why it's so pleasant to our ears.

  • @gscl
    @gscl Před 5 lety

    The entire outtro speaks to my soul.

  • @colmbolger518
    @colmbolger518 Před 5 lety +23

    You can call it the Feely McSqueely effect 😆😆😆

    • @Blechg
      @Blechg Před 5 lety +5

      The Neely Feely McSqueely effect

  • @BenK12345
    @BenK12345 Před 5 lety +11

    Timbre Recall.. (coming soon to a theater near you)

  • @joannemurphy6856
    @joannemurphy6856 Před 5 lety

    I really like your bit about the “Adam bandleader gig vlog thing”, especially because I feel this is something all instrumentalists have to some degree but it’s glossed over because like you said it’s not exactly perfect pitch. It also explains why I’m better able to tell that an A is being played on piano because it’s a tuning note I hear all the time. Very cool!

  • @redgit9905
    @redgit9905 Před 3 lety +1

    12:11 Auto generated subtitles: “Killing is fun”
    That gave that whole talk a way different feeling

  • @MrAndrewGregor
    @MrAndrewGregor Před 5 lety +3

    I was like whoa check out those cool looking MONO bags for his guitars,
    then like bAM! you called yourself out

  • @mbrsart
    @mbrsart Před 5 lety +12

    What do you think of Jeff Berlin's idea that practicing with a metronome is detrimental at worst, and at best has no tangible benefits?

    • @TheSquareOnes
      @TheSquareOnes Před 5 lety +5

      I'm not familiar with his argument but that sounds completely absurd. It really depends on the kind of music you wish to perform but the vast majority of musicians would benefit from a better feel for tempo and metronome practice undeniably improves that. Is it possible to do it incorrectly or overdo it to the point of becoming dependent? Sure, absolutely. Does that somehow mean there are "no tangible benefits"? No, that's ridiculous.
      What even is the proposed alternative for a starting musician? Guesstimate*, record the results and guesstimate again in response to the errors, then rinse and repeat for thousands upon thousands of attempts? Surely a simple and objective reference is a much more realistic alternative, right? Like, if you had never heard a metronome in your entire life and I told you to play something at 120 BPM, how would you even begin to approach that? Time yourself counting to 120? This sounds like the kind of claim someone could only make by forgetting that they weren't born with all of the musical knowledge and muscle memory that they currently possess.
      Even at an advanced level I think there is a mountain of evidence that efficient use of a metronome in practice can greatly improve your sense of time. The key there is generally to not use it to mark every single beat, but rather to use the metronome to mark specific beats and force yourself to keep track of the tempo the rest of the time. For example you would start by moving it to just the downbeats of each bar, then to 2 and 4, then maybe the downbeat of every four bar phrase and so on. For even more advanced time feel you can set it to mark extremely syncopated hits like the 'a' of beat 2 or the second and last notes of a 16th note quintuplet. These training exercises mean that you have to actually internalize the tempo rather than just relying on the click while also providing consistent and objective feedback as to how well you're doing in the moment, there is a ton of value in that and at best you could hope to kinda sorta approximate it by wasting time fiddling with a lot of recordings and such.
      *Just had to point out that no red line appeared under guesstimate when I typed it, is that finally an officially accepted word in the English language?

    • @mbrsart
      @mbrsart Před 5 lety +1

      @@TheSquareOnes I totally agree. Jeff is a huge advocate of the idea that the best way to learn music is by immersion, citing the way that children learn language. I think he has a sound point in that if a person depends on an external metronome to keep time, their internal metronome could suffer. But I disagree with his notion that everything that isn't explicitly musical should be shoved aside. (That's a gross oversimplification of his whole educational philosophy, but that's the gist.) He's expressed distaste for teaching students "groove" or teaching them to "lock with the drummer," and he's expressed distaste for teachers who make theory and technique a large part of their curriculum. His philosophy is, if it's not musical immersion, it's not going to achieve the same results.

    • @gregclevett5861
      @gregclevett5861 Před 5 lety

      He's discussed this before. Would tell you the videos but really can't be arsed to look for it.

  • @DonCYHaute
    @DonCYHaute Před 5 lety

    Sweet new digs, Adam!

  • @melodiousmonk173
    @melodiousmonk173 Před 5 lety

    Simply put, Adam you are THE MAN ! X

  • @user-wk4je6ll2s
    @user-wk4je6ll2s Před 5 lety +4

    Can you talk about hypermodes on a future video? No one has covered this topic in a comprehensive way yet

  • @guerradan
    @guerradan Před 5 lety +3

    Make a Doris Day cover when possible, Adam

  • @Hennu_TRM
    @Hennu_TRM Před 5 lety +2

    That outro is pretty bangin...

  • @kylestevensanders
    @kylestevensanders Před 5 lety

    Never thought I'd see Billie Eilish in an Adam Neely video and I was not disappointed; I love them both

  • @TiagoLageira
    @TiagoLageira Před 5 lety +6

    But what about...
    *THE SPACE BETWEEN THE NOTES?*

  • @luckyand8678
    @luckyand8678 Před 5 lety +8

    As a saxophonist, i‘m triggered by that low g....

    • @pmnt_
      @pmnt_ Před 5 lety +1

      THANK YOU!

    • @skierpage
      @skierpage Před 3 lety

      make music in free-fall or orbit, it's low g all the time!

  • @DeejayRach0
    @DeejayRach0 Před 5 lety

    Thank you Adam much love

  • @rcjward
    @rcjward Před 5 lety

    Thank-you for bringing the important topic of timbrel distinction to light.

  • @jamieleroux2223
    @jamieleroux2223 Před 5 lety +6

    Hey Adam,
    I was wondering if you could have a look at some of Bill Wurtz's music (you may know him from "the history of the entire world, i guess"). I'm not that experienced in Jazz or even music in general and I'd be interested to see your take on it.

    • @somerandomguy802
      @somerandomguy802 Před 5 lety

      Jamie le Roux There’s actually evidence that Bill and Adam were friends, both at Berklee. Look it up!

    • @jamieleroux2223
      @jamieleroux2223 Před 5 lety

      Oh really? I'll have a look.

    • @TAP7a
      @TAP7a Před 5 lety

      Max Harper I didn’t know I needed this but do you have it to hand? I would love to see that

    • @jamieleroux2223
      @jamieleroux2223 Před 5 lety

      @@TAP7a There's a reddit thread where Adam Neely says he has mutual friends and they were at Berklee together: www.reddit.com/r/billwurtz/comments/6ndb6k/it_made_me_happy_to_see_bill_brag_about_himself/

  • @megalamb
    @megalamb Před 5 lety +8

    Hi Adam - I have some questions that have been bothering me for ages. Where's the line where it comes to taking inspiration from other songs, versus breach of copyright for those songs? Things like chord progressions in particular I wonder about. How much claim can someone have to a chord progression? For example, if Pachelbel were alive today, would he be furious that so many songs use his choice of chord progression from his Canon in D? Does the fact that so many people already use such chord progressions in songs encourage people to feel 'safer' composing with similar chord progressions, feeling they've been somehow legitimized because other people do the same?
    For years, I feel like I've been held back in my composing, because if I use chord progressions others have used, it feels like I'm stealing someone else's idea, and yet millions of people do this all the time, so where can the line be drawn?

    • @lifeontheledgerlines8394
      @lifeontheledgerlines8394 Před 5 lety +3

      Think about it this way: chord progressions and forms and pretty much all of music theory is like the basics of a language. Chord progressions are like grammatical structure in language. In jazz, pretty much all of the music incorporates ii-V-I chord progressions, and some standards (Giant Steps and otherwise) are completely based around that. Is it wrong to copy other people's grammatical structure? Of course not! So why should that apply to music? And also, about the "safety" thing? I mean, pretty much every chord progression possible has probably been tried in one way or another by someone in history, so everything has already been used. Just reuse it.
      Also, all of art is based around stealing ideas from various sources and reworking them to create a cohesive whole. Not everything is original, but it's hard to be original - almost everything's been done. Our job now is to take those things and put them together in different ways.
      Also, about the line being drawn? That's a hard question - if you took someone else's song and pass it off as your own, that's too much. If there are recognizable and significant differences between the original and the new version (like a reharmonization of a song) that alter how you see the work in question, in my opinion, that is morally okay. Copyright law would beg to differ, but screw copyright law. They keep demonetizing everyone, UMG can go jump off of the international space station. Anyways, that's my idea on where the line should be drawn, but it can differ from medium to medium and this is a very individual thing. So think for a while and make your own choice - it's by no means set in stone.
      All art starts out as an imitation of something else, then ends up incorporating different elements into itself, and coming out as a new being entirely comprised of elements from the past. So steal all the chord progressions you can. I have a staff notebook where I write ones I like that I hear in songs and stuff.
      So, great question and have a fantastic day!

    • @r0berito861
      @r0berito861 Před 5 lety +1

      As far as I know (not a lawyer), US copyright law generally applies to lyrics and melody. In some cases, like with the bass riff in "Money" by Pink Floyd, other defining parts of a musical work may also be protected. I am at any rate confident that chord progressions are not currently protected by copyright. (Still not a lawyer though)

    • @luigivercotti6410
      @luigivercotti6410 Před 5 lety +2

      LifeOnTheEdge I think Kubrick said at some point that "everything has been done by someone before; it's our job to do them one better"

    • @lifeontheledgerlines8394
      @lifeontheledgerlines8394 Před 5 lety

      @@luigivercotti6410 I like that quote. Putting that on my list of famous quotes.

  • @danielh5621
    @danielh5621 Před 5 lety

    Yet another great video. keep it up Adam

  • @CHEpachilo
    @CHEpachilo Před 5 lety

    So sweet ambience here!

  • @somerandomguy802
    @somerandomguy802 Před 5 lety +5

    Adam,
    thoughts on The New School? I know a lot of great artists went there, including non-musicians I admire, and lately I’ve been comparing it to Berklee a lot for my “dream school.” I was curious if you, as a Berklee alum in New York, had any perspective to offer.

  • @Mezurashii5
    @Mezurashii5 Před 5 lety +8

    Huh? Isn't writing the code, choosing the way the AI is fed information and selection of the information you give it enough effort to make the result of that AI's work somebody's effort?
    Since AI doesn't choose to write music, it's just a music writing tool for somebody.

    • @YoshiOST
      @YoshiOST Před 5 lety +1

      you get the copyright to the code. the result if it is deterministic maybe else its a mystery

  • @skymooseft
    @skymooseft Před 2 lety

    Another great video. Thanks

  • @bairbrediamond
    @bairbrediamond Před 5 lety

    That is so interesting about feeling the pitch..was practicing a new piece with my section in choir and we had different ideas about one harmony but I remembered our interval by where it had felt in my body rather than being clear in my mind what the actual interval was

  • @putridabomination
    @putridabomination Před 5 lety +5

    Everyone ready to learn?

  • @D1ndo
    @D1ndo Před 5 lety +9

    Developing the AI, choosing the training data, tuning the ML parameters. Those are the real labor intensive and creative tasks. AI is a lot of time more art than science. Copyright of AI created music should belong to the author of the AI.
    Picking a result is not, sorry. That's work of critics, not composers.
    Consider a clothes designer. He "composes" a bunch of clothes. Then a manager comes in and decides which designs should go into production. Does the manager hold the copyright for the design because he has chosen it? Absolutely not, that's nonsense. The designer is the author.

    • @SpaceDisco1
      @SpaceDisco1 Před 5 lety +2

      D1ndo It is really a bit more complicated than that, no?
      I completely agree that Adam severly understates the amount of work & creativity that goes into programming. However, to make a similarily incomplete analogy based on your example: nobody cares who made the sewing machine in fashion.
      What the AI developer does is create the sewing machine... and part of the designer?
      So I think this is definitely a bit more complex, but a really interesting topic nonetheless.

  • @Wizuu0274
    @Wizuu0274 Před 5 lety +1

    The bass playing on that clip with Sarah Longfield reminds me of Jeff Berlin on Bruford's records. Love it.

  • @Tabu11211
    @Tabu11211 Před 5 lety

    I love the journey that the lick has gone on since it has found you

  • @rcjinAZ
    @rcjinAZ Před 5 lety +3

    You definitely should get a law degree Adam.

  • @erikmoe4767
    @erikmoe4767 Před 5 lety +1

    Adam really hit the BASS in that intro

  • @venomousalex8383
    @venomousalex8383 Před 5 lety +2

    Hey Adam! The topic of copyrighted AI music is actually really interesting. We have just discussed this in school (I go to a music school) and in Sweden we have what is called STIM. It is basically what you have to be registered on to be able to make money off your music plays on Spotify and so on, and it is also what copyrights the music. And one of the criterias the music has to fulfill is actually that the music is created by a real person, thus eliminating this confusion regarding AI music.
    Great video as always.

  • @mikegleim5241
    @mikegleim5241 Před 5 lety

    Yup. That sticky, jerky outro is the hottest moment of the video. Great jorb!!

  • @muskop42
    @muskop42 Před 5 lety

    I've been noticing the "Adam Neely bandleader gig vlog thing" more and more recently with the trombone and listening to other trombone recordings could pick out a note as "obviously" an Eb and im really glad you put it into words for me! thanks!

  • @tyleraustin8216
    @tyleraustin8216 Před 5 lety

    Hey Adam!
    So this is something that's been on my mind for a while now. When I listen to music, I can't help but (over)analyze it to an extent where it actually takes away any aesthetic pleasure or emotional connection that's being portrayed. I'm a drummer, so while listening I picture all the rhythms and orchestrations and translate it to notation in my head (almost like imagining how a word is spelled when hearing it aloud). My question is how would one combat this or "rethink" music in a way where you could appreciate the artistry once again. This may be more of a psychological question, but I think you'd be a pretty good person to ask about such a topic.
    Love your stuff!

  • @8020drummer
    @8020drummer Před 5 lety

    Great video! I'm sure we've both met plenty of people with perfect pitch, and I'm not sure the difference (6:00) is one of type, but rather of degree. My wife, who's from Taiwan, tells stories of ear-training classes simply "teaching" or "coaching" perfect pitch by relying on students to identify the key of, say, a partwriting dictation exercise (whereas in the US, they'd give us the key). Her ability to identify every key, according to her, was "bootstrapped" from that same timbral awareness you're speaking of, that lets us Yanks sing a Meters song in the right key every time :)

  • @alfberger3150
    @alfberger3150 Před 5 lety

    Great video! More videos on improvising and/or fills as you mentioned in this video would be cool!

  • @brookstarkington
    @brookstarkington Před 5 lety

    Haircut looking dope

  • @ModernVintageFilm
    @ModernVintageFilm Před 5 lety

    Hey Adam, I recently invested into decent headphones for better audio quality (and a high fidelity listening experience lol search up high fidelity earplugs , this is not what I bought but it's relevant now) - your intro is nice by the way. Good job man, be nice to jam around on a free day. Happy Bassing. :)

  • @treyobrien8790
    @treyobrien8790 Před 5 lety

    Ayy thanks for the info

  • @whiterottenrabbit
    @whiterottenrabbit Před 5 lety

    Amazing video, as always! Love your channel and love your work!

  • @juancruzbassi6600
    @juancruzbassi6600 Před 5 lety

    What i've learned today: Play the lick whenever you can, since it can generate all the imaginable emotions possible at the same time and never gets old.

  • @No20six
    @No20six Před 5 lety

    This is how the Robot Uprising starts Adam! It's video's like this that will start it all...

  • @eduardoduarte2736
    @eduardoduarte2736 Před 5 lety

    Great Video!

  • @Octaw333
    @Octaw333 Před 5 lety

    Why cannot this be longer?
    Great videos none the less. I really appreciate your work.
    Greetings from Poland ;)

  • @TheStuF
    @TheStuF Před 5 lety

    Excellent video.

  • @andrewcranmer9653
    @andrewcranmer9653 Před 5 lety

    You seem especially chilled on this video

  • @laurencejazzperry6086
    @laurencejazzperry6086 Před 5 lety

    0:55 - no it RAISES the question, begging the question is something else.

  • @lucidvoid2528
    @lucidvoid2528 Před 4 lety

    the name of the adam bandleader gig vlog thing... i think is called true pitch. but regardless of its name, it is super cool!

  • @NanoMan737400
    @NanoMan737400 Před 5 lety

    For the pitch in melody singing, I think you overlooked one key element of musical learning in education: solfege. I played lots of guitar before getting into music school, but I wasn't that great at singing those notes at the pitches they were in my instrument. I feel what really changed me were the intonated solfege excercises in music school. Of course, that's only my experience and that could've been different to what happens with most people.

  • @zachsorkinmusic
    @zachsorkinmusic Před 4 lety

    Question for next QnA- when writing drum parts, how do you go about notating it? (lead sheets, charts, note for note, etc)

  • @ZeugmaP
    @ZeugmaP Před 5 lety

    On the timbre memory thing, it's something that I noticed as well. When I hear my neighbor play the bass and he plays the A string, I recognise it instantly ! Also, because I listen to a lot of Metal, I can sometimes tell if a song is in drop D just by ear.

  • @mrdilonemusic
    @mrdilonemusic Před 5 lety

    Kinda random but I was reminded of it when you talked about the emotions you get from the minor 6th: I've always loved that Superman's theme is known for it's Perfect 5th (Happy, Empowering), where as Batman's theme always had that minor 6th jump (Tim Burton's Batman theme)

  • @williamlennie
    @williamlennie Před 5 lety

    In my singing we call that "pitch memory". Remembering what pitch a song is at, the sound of an in tune instrument etc.

  • @andrewrice9607
    @andrewrice9607 Před 5 lety

    OOOHH! I love the camera change letting us know you're one of us!

  • @headfonic7750
    @headfonic7750 Před 5 lety

    Quite insightful....looking frontward to returning.

  • @TheFeelButton
    @TheFeelButton Před 5 lety

    Good stuff Adam! So strange that something like pitch memory hasn’t been studied yet.

  • @connellphillips5439
    @connellphillips5439 Před 5 lety

    So interesting to hear somebody talk about the "Adam bandleader gig vlog thing" (lol). I definitely don't have perfect pitch, but I can do the whistle from the start of "Cigarettes and Alcohol" by Oasis at the right pitch every time, and I've never really heard anybody talk about that sort of phenomenon. Also more in tune with what you mentioned, whenever I restring my guitar I can usually get the strings within a half-step without a tuner.

  • @Takanuva7-1
    @Takanuva7-1 Před 5 lety

    Perfect timbre

  • @linkVIII
    @linkVIII Před 5 lety

    Having fun with the video production I see. nice.

  • @ivyssauro123
    @ivyssauro123 Před 5 lety

    Descending triplet bass fills is so choro! Now I know what it's called.