First Responder Alert: Emergency Plug Issue with GM Vehicles
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- čas přidán 27. 05. 2024
- This video highlights a significant problem for first responders using emergency plugs on newer GM vehicles. We'll explain the technical reasons behind this malfunction and discuss potential solutions.
Wonder how long until kidnappers, carjackers, robbers, etc. start using emergency plugs to prevent people from escaping if it hasn't happened already. I don't like the idea of my vehicle having an easily accessible external disable feature.
Likely it won't be long before car thieves pirate these devices. Run up, plug it in, and it instantly removes your greatest defense tool which is the ability to move your vehicle.
@@Michael-1337 Faking being an L1 EVSE is easy, only need a few resistors and an oscillator circuit to generate the necessary signals and loads on pilot pins, maybe $5 in parts for a one-off circuit build. The most expensive DIY component by far will be the plug itself, maybe buy the connectors from scrappers who steal fast-charger cables. Then again, you only need ground, PP and CP. Find appropriately sized metal pins, 3D-print something to hold them in place and you are ready to go.
Immobilizer plugs are being sold to first responders for nearly $1000 a pop but I bet a Chinese manufacturer will make functional equivalents for ~$10 soon enough.
So all the missing charger cables is not theft because the driver drove off with the charger attached.
Too much reliance on software.
AND CRAP CHEAP PLASTIC SWITCHES
Yeah my F-350 don’t care when I drive off with the block heater plugged in.
Hello, I'm a technical trainer and I have to say that the communication around the emergency plug is, at least, very sketchy. I've got a lot of firefighters in training about HEV security that are mixing things up: The emergency plug put (sometimes) the vehicle in "parking" BUT it doesn't turn it off. As we can see in your video, the "Ready" is still on, so HV is still ON.
When i hear the firefighters telling me: "the emergency plug turns off the vehicle they are thinking about motion AND HV! It's really important for them to understand that it's only keeping the vehicle to move but doesn't do anything guaranteed about HV.
As an example, here in EU, we've got a lot of EV without a Parking mode (Dacia Spring has got only D N R and an handbrake, so the emergency plug cannot pull the handbrake by itself). thanks for your videos, great work!
You are correct. This absolutely does not turn off the high voltage. I discuss that in my other video, where I do a deep dive into the emergency plug.
I would bet there is a software developer somewhere that went "oh qwap" at the 60 seconds delay. Sounds like some debug setting may have been left enabled. Purely a guess.
Maybe the hardware is not capable of software control.
Since there is a 60 second delay, it should be an easy thing to change in a software update.
$20 says carjackers are going to start using these to take over vehicles with no means of escape.
It also unlocks the doors in most cases.
@@Green__one A lot of cars unlock the doors when put in park. If this is plugged in and the vehicle automatically shifts to park, unlocking the doors is probably an artifact of that programming.
My 2013 Ford Focus EV was scary as I could back out with the charge cable plugged in! I got to threading the cable into the door handle so as not to forget!
That was before the regulations.
Seems odd to expect the software and computers to work properly after a crash?
Seems very dangerous to the occupants for anybody to just be able to run up to a car and instantly disable it allowing for situations where you can't get away if you're under duress or attack for some reason. This is going to be in every carjackers case. This product just seems unnecessary. Other vehicles aren't required to have an exterior emergency shut off why should EVs. Leave The emergency shut off under the hood or in less accessible areas, firemen still know where they are and exactly where to cut to disable the car.
A nice way to charge the vehicles with 🌞 while in motion, with rear access to charge port 🤔. I need a emergency plug delete kit, to allow solar charging, to reduce my range anxiety stress😂❤️👍
The flap is motorized, and every modal has to make it different and fancy. Good luck with that.
And don't touch the bodywork: it could be energised.
i wonder how many criminals are working on making or getting one of these plugs? Disabling the vehicle easily from the outside would leave you vulnerable to them.
What th is "Emergency plug" in first place ?
That is EV vulnerability, unauthorized access, an exploit device, that could be used for malicious activity.
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It is essentially a charging cable head that doesn't charge. EVs aren't allowed to move when plugged into a cable, doing that would pull the cable out and possibly damage the car or the charger. Even if the cable isn't doing any charging, because the vehicle is at full charge, you still don't want the vehicle to drive with that cable attached.
It does not hack the EV or access anything it shouldn't, it simply uses an existing safety feature for safety purposes.
Seems to me that any time anything is inserted into the receptacle the vehicle should immediately shift to park.
But the government can shut these vehicles off remotely whenever they want...
This is coming with the problem with electric cars and electronics inside the vehicles. I think it’s something to do with the firmware not working with it.
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What if you are charging? Can you drive away with the cord connected?
Now that would be an entertaining video. "Electric Hunmer vs SuperCharger pulling contest"
@@SolAce-nw2hf I actually googled this and there is a CZcamsr who advertised a breakaway adapter for teslas for this very reason. So if you need to drive away in an emergency while you are connected it will break away from the charging cord. I guess it’s marketed to people afraid of being ambushed in their cars waiting to charge in remote desolate areas. Yet another problem with EVs.
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If an EV is damaged, but not so much for being not approachable, there is still the possibility that the software will glitch.
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Thank you for keeping us informed. I will be the last person to buy an EV. I'll let everyone else be the guinea pigs to work all the bugs out.
The bugs are immortal 😂😂😂
Hilarious ineptitude from GM - until somebody is injured as a result of this flaw.
This wouldn't be necessary at all if people would unplug/remove the fuel nozzle from the vehicle. Also, kia just recalled their EVs. Because they're catching on fire. Are you surprised?
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Way to go GM. What the world needs is more gender studies PhDs running society.
How did it get past their inspection? Being able to drive of with a charger attached is high dangerous.
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Another great video stackeD .valuable information.🫶✌️🙏🏴
Glad you enjoyed it
Don't these whizz-bang EV's have a PARKING BRAKE?? Too low tech, I guess.
Unfortunately most newer vehicles use electronic buttons for the parking brake so there is no positive feedback for first responders to know it worked correctly. It also requires us to enter the vehicle to engage.
Anything controlled by software can be controlled by hackers, direct contact or remotely.
These EV's ideas/regulations/laws are the most dumbest thing I've ever seen in my life.