Question Time: No Deal Brextremists silenced by facts and evidence
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You know there's trouble afoot when the public discourse in England and America makes us Aussies look respectable. Good grief
You ARE respectable.
Sanj you're being harsh here . I found Aussies quite thoughtful and congenial apart from the occasional burly drunk that offered to buy me a flower cause I wasn't quite a match to his seven foot mountain of ignorance
@@claudeghendrih762 haha nah not being harsh, just self deprecating. Most of us Aussies q don't take ourselves or life too seriously
@@sanjeevvij7699 Indeed I do recall a very entertaining conversation with a delicious bridge building guy in the Tasmanian wild
@@britbazza2529 so you want freedom of movement then
The starting analogy is the stuff of late night pub musings. There is *no* meaningful equivalence between brexit negotiations and buying a house or a car. If you walk away from buying a house you still have a house to live in with all your former rights and privileges. They don't strip you of citizenship and ask you to apply again whilst charging you twice as much to go sainsburys and checking your documents every time you put the cat out.
Yeah, this has been one of the core problems with the whole Brexit debate. Some people rely on simple sound bites, slogans and analogies which ignore the consequences and complexities of a thing like Brexit.
This is a common thing on Question Time as well. I remember when someone compared running a nation's economy to running his household budget. Yanis Varoufakis had to explain that the two are quite different. It's one of the reasons why QT is a pointless TV programme imo. The general public is invited to pontificate on subjects some of them don't know much about.
The analogy can be used, but the truth is that the UK have sold their house and need to move out by the 29th of March. So going into a negotiation to buy a new house and being willing to walk away without a sale means, as of the 30th of March, you are homeless rather than moving back into your old house.
Analogies need to be used with great care as they are rarely, if ever, map 100% onto the situation described. As such they can be over-extrapolated to reach false conclusions.
Moreover they are very effective for people who wish to mislead. They can map the situation onto an analogy that does not really apply, such as the house buying negotiation, and then make false conclusions.
Well reasoned. Isabel Oakeshott appears on lots of these things to present Brexit doctrine with a smug glance or two. And I think the smug glances reveal more than her words. God I hope these shysters pay dearly if we do no-deal to chaos.
Spot on fella
This audience and their poker analogies are exactly why the referendum should never have occurred in the first place. The general public is ill-equipped to make such a decision, especially without the pertinent information. I bet most of these have never voted for an MEP in their lives.
@@darengardner6219 This is where facts collide with ideology. 35.60% of the population voted in the 2014 European election which is below the EU average of 42.61%. And given the fact that most of the 73 MEPs represent a pro-European position we are talking about a relatively small portion of the country.
There is nothing arrogant about it; people simply cannot be expected to understand the complexities of trading relations without the pertinent information. Northern Ireland was never discussed, the potential shortage of radioisotopes for cancer patients was never discussed, the details of future trade deals and what that would look like was never discussed. Most people did not realise that much of our non-EU international trade is done through the EU, most people have no idea how the European parliamentary system works. The public was sold on slogans rather than detail, nuance and basic information...
@@desoliver9712 You make some valid points, but the bottom line is do we want to interfere in democracy, flawed as it is. It's a very slippery slope once we start making exclusions on who should vote or not.
@@TheRobster2007 I''m not suggesting that the public should not be given the right to vote in general elections and I see no other way out of this mess than a people's vote. However, our system is a representative democracy; we vote for MPs to *act in our best interest* - just like we get to chose our GPs, we don't get to choose the treatment.
@@TheRobster2007 You have to remember that most of the democracies in the world are representative rather than direct democracies. So the people elect their representatives (for example MP in UK or MEP in EU) and these representatives are mandated and paid to make actual decisions - especially when it comes to very complicated and involved matters. People should vote to give general direction, however the actual detailed decision have to be done by representatives, which are better equipped (have time and resources to research and think through available information) to make such a call.
What pertinent information do you refer to? The ability to revert to WTO terms if a deal isn't struck? You know, were we get to trade with the EU anyway without the need for all of this doomsday bollocks?
Watching this in 2021 is exceedingly funny. They got what they wanted. No deal.
And now they are crying about it. Irish Sea border. :D
No deal has been the outcome. Disruption was predicted and that’s exactly what Johnson and his bandits have got us.
If only there was some way we could influence the EU?
@@supercadcc 😂👌
That’s not true at all, there was a withdrawal agreement and comprehensive FTA following that
If I shoot myself in the foot before a gunfight, I will scare my opponent into backing out of said gunfight.
-Derby Gammon
Apparently the UK is not the center of the universe as imagined.
The U.K. is the centre of earth it's not a debate it's also the centre of the observance universe still not important what is it we are and always have been better than the eu
@@davidevans3223You are an inspiration to us all !!!
@@user-fq7tv2lo6e cheers to many on the left put beliefs before reality unfortunately life's not that simple
@@davidevans3223 You sound pretty 'Pompously Ridiculous..mate'. You need to tune your instrument, the ship is sinking fast. Mine is better than yours is pathetically childish. Grow up.
One thing we can agree on is brexit is a disaster.
Can't they invite all those people to the studio for a second/ follow up session to discuss their victory? I really want to hear them cheer again for the no-deal brexit.
How many would actually admit they voted for it ,cheered for it and are now suffering for it ? I say none , also how many are still alive ? The man talking about the German cars is a proven CONservative plant who appeared on many Question time shows .
@@lythalls I voted leave, and I'm still alive. Not had any of the project fear materialise. Only hindrance in life is due to covid.
@@tobytaylor2154 pretty much every problem pointed out by remainers, is happening.
Problems in NI
Shortage of EU workers
Huge increase in Brexit red tape
Damage to fishing industry
Damage to farming industry
UK less attractive to investors who hare now going to France and Germany as surprise surprise a frictionless market of £16trillion is more interesting than a £2.8 trillion market
@@notch7139 erm covid! Shortage of a lot of stuff due to pandemic. Not heard of the car manufacturers staying, and investing along with over 60 trade deals. We were told they were leaving not staying and investing. The French are causing the issues over fishing and NI. No shortage of EU workers, just a shortage of workers, nationality is irrelevant. Maybe the lazy British who sit around holding their hands out should get up and do a job. Apart from the pandemic, I'm looking forward to your ilke to telling me when there is no flights, a temp recession (every recession in history is temp), no food, ww3 will start, and outbreak of sti's (that's my favourite remainer lie). But the funniest thing to me is seeing ppl like you having a meltdown because you don't get why ppl voted the way we did. Everyone of you just mentions the economy, not everyone voted to leave because of the economy. We had whinging and whining for yrs because ppl can't accept losing, calling us thick and racist and wanting a 2nd referendum, even hindering any deal which hampers our negotiations, which in our eyes is going against our country (going out your way to get a worse deal). This in turn gave the EU all the ammo they needed to play leavers against remainers instead of the country being as 1.
@@tobytaylor2154 ha ha ha ha
you are clueless.
overall the car manufacturing sector has shrunk, despite the news of a Chinese battery factory in Sunderland
UK hasnt done 60 trade deals -its done 2
all the others are EU deals weve copied
What do you mean the french are causing issues over fishing and NI -those problems are caused by brexit, you total melt
There is a shortage workers, they were from the EU and they left due to brexit
I know not everyone voted for brexit due to the economy, some dumbos voted for "freedom" -well what freedom have you gained eh?
If i was looking to buy a new house, and i didnt like the new house, id go back to my original house.
Not a tent in a field with no hot water, electricity or even a bed.
No deal does NOT mean reverting back to the status quo we currently have, its really not hard to understand why these analogies do not work.
Exactly which is why that No-deal argument falls flat on its face!
And this is what NO BREXITER has ever understood. And they still don’t understand, because to try and understand would require a massive shift on their psyche, which would crumble.
Thank you
Clever people us in the Denny Clann...!!!
It’s depressing so many didn’t get that then and still don’t now.
3:40 Still waiting for that phone call from Merkle about the cars ......
Ha...looking back and seeing the Brexit lies being parroted by some gormless
Leaver who drank the Koolaid.
The idiocy has gotten worse. There are zero benefits of Brexit and no one who voted for it,campaigned for it or led the charge for it will admit it. The worst is yet to come.
@@patrickmiller5256 lol that's so stupid support for brexit is higher than ever if you want to rejoin vote lib dems it's a choice you have lol also snp boost from pandemic NOT brexit has also gone now never mind thinking isn't for the left
@@michellebrown4903 we love brexit n if u dont like it go live in a EU country
Probably has been on the phone but thought it was a wrong number when Boris answered 😂🤣😂
There is something about Daily Mail so-called journalists that make me want to vomit!
There's everything about Daily Mail journalists that make me want to vomit
if you think the mail is bad try the guardian it made me want to cut my wrists
@@Sowbert Daily Mail is hate preaching The Guardian is more evidence based, I know which one would serve me best, but knock yourself mate.
Christos Christophe Christ-Bearer I will never buy the guardian or the mail as I like to keep an open mind both of those papers have biased opinions but nock yourself out mate
@@Sowbert Agreed!
This video has not aged well for Oakeshott or the "German auto makers will not allow no-deal" sheep in the audience.
The buying a house/car analogy was utterly gormless. In this context, she assumes we had a position of power or alternative (a house to return to). What she was actually suggesting is "if you don't give me what I want I'll voluntarily make myself homeless".
Precisely - what schools did these people go to? Only the same type that gave myself a reasonable education.
So many people didn't realize that we were already living in that house together. It wasn't about being offered a new house. It was the UK that just decided to move out. Now it turns out that the credit for the new house was far too high. The house is still in ruins and they have problems paying the mortgage.
@Heloise O'Byrne The EU27 had much more bargaining power, wealth and influence - its all relative, that was blindingly obvious from the start. The so called 'No deal' scenario was actually a deal - the UK would still be bound by contractual obligations - the worst of the likely deals you could sensibly imagine.
@Heloise O'Byrne It wasn't a poker game that's just another daft analogy made for rhetorical and campaigning purposes. How would you like to play poker against your mother whilst sitting in with a mirror behind you? Foolish don't you think?
What do you do for a living Alex? You obviously are not used to negotiating , or if you are up you are not very good at it.
English politicians and newspapers have religiously preached fault on EU for 10 years. It was a convenient scapegoat for deflecting public anger or outrage at unpopular decisions or domestic policy failures. The public are clearly not capable of understanding what the implications of a no-deal would be.
In terms of a possible social-economic crash Brexiteers seem fine with it so I'm sure they would be happy to shoulder the responsibility. As a European watching videos like this, I think it would be best if the no-deal scenario was acted on, the Brexit public clearly need to feel the consequences of this to get an inkling of what it actually means.
Too many of the brexiteers are pensioners from the suburbs and countryside who shake with fear when they have to go into the city and rub shoulders with all the "foreigners." They bought their houses in their early twenties on one salary and saw them appreciate 10 times over. They were getting into places like Oxford with B's and Cs, but they still think young people are lazy and don't work hard. They've made their careers, got the experience. If the country crashes they'll be fine, no matter what happens. It's young people and low skilled workers who will suffer the most. It really is tragic.
@@IshtarNike Unfortunately for the British youth, the demographic is not in their favor with the advent of aging, at least half (if not more of the country) will be old people.
As a Dutchman I'm surprised at how single-minded sections of the British public follow just that individual newspapers, media publication or TV channel.
When my daughter was introduced to 'internet' at school with how to gather information/ resources, it was drummed into her to corroborate any information found. Find a headline in one newspaper, cross reference it with at least 3 other sources before assuming it was true or useful and so on, i.e. don't just consume, think and act.
You’re right , but feeling the consequences , for me , means never working again . And the business I want to start will be stillborn as it requires
things not made here. But you ARE right . Sadly
*40 years p
@@zalajin I taught Computer Science briefly in a UK secondary school a couple years ago and I am delighted to tell you that lesson is being taught here too. Sadly, we need all the older gits will die before we can benefit from what (I hope) the young know intrinsically. I know that's a horrible thing to say but that's how bad things appear over here right now.
“Look at it this way,” George Carlin once said, “think of how stupid the average person is and then realize half of them are stupider than that.” When that formula is applied to the average Brexit supporter (and Carlin would do so were he alive today, and is anyone unclear on that?), it is fitting indeed.
So how did Carlin suggest to get stupid people to do the smart thing?
David Null hello David. I appreciate your frustration, and I hope you won’t feel I’m being patronising when I say if you want to change things you’ve got to persuade them. You’re stupid is not the best way to start. I voted remain almost purely on the strength of despising mr Ferridge and seeing Boris for the Wodehouse spiv that he is. Not very deep...
@ADE That is a horrible idea. Statistically half of anyone's family is stupid. I do hope you're not suggesting you'd be happy to see half your family offered that choice? Remember that they are stupid and have a 50 percent chance of choosing wrong.
Dangerous referendum
@@bosoerjadi2838 you don't let them be part of a direct democracy vote for brexit in the first place. Direct democracy doesn't work for this very reason, the average person has no idea what they are voting on.
Oh, this glorious. Someone should call them up and ask what happened ...
A Brexit timeline.
2016 - Brexit will make us better off
2017 - Brexit won't make us worse off
2018 - Brexit will make us worse off but only for the first 50 years
2019 - Nobody ever claimed it would make us better off
2020 - We don't care if we starve
2021 - It's all Remainers' fault.
or its the eu's fault
It appears the brexiteers don't want to take responsibility for voting to leave the EU. So they blame the EU, or mostly now seem to be blaming remainers. So did the remainers hold a gun against their heads, surely they had a choice no one was twisting their arms or in anyway coercing them to vote leave. And after they voted for the tories and johnson they are still blaming remainers for that aswell, apparently it's because we said brexit was a stupid idea and they are stupid for voting for it, so that caused them to vote tory in 2019
You missed out "without Brexit, many would have died due to a delayed vaccine rollout. Or do you just post bits that for your narrative? Kinda what brexit supports were accused of huh
@@RM-hj7zo There is nothing to stop individual EU states from running their own vaccination systems, nothing whatsoever. You need to do your homework and stop parroting the BS you read in the Express.
@@dub604 wow aha. I knew baiting would be easy, but not that easy. People like you are predictable as fuck. Bet you assumed I'm a racist, low educated brexit voter right? I voted remain. I decided on remain because me and my family were getting along just fine and we were quite happy for things to keep moving along relatively smoothly. Leave voters won so we move on. Sadly, folk like you who verbally assault your fellow humans give people like me a bad name to those with the opposite view. Have you ever thought that, talking down to folk in that way perhaps drives them to think "fuck you" and do the opposite of what you're arguing? Bet you dislike Trump. Guess what, same here. But people like your good self are a big factor in why he gained popularity. "Your wrong, your voice doesn't matter, I'm better than you". That's all the opposite end hear when you speak in that way buddy. Show some god dam respect to your fellow humans and you may find you get a lot more back.
Ahh yes, the German cars, they need us more than we need them. Meanwhile Honda closes in Swindon and Boris has to bribe Nissan to stay in Sunderland.
You are absolutely right. German here: I can assure you, Brexit is not discussed here any more the slightest bit. Not in Newspapers, not in radio, not in TV. I for myself am really interested, but I can't find any information here. Britain really doesn't matter any more on the continent. Live just goes on and people shrug it off.
And Toyota opens a brand new plant in Newcastle. Now what has happened to all the banks that were meant to close in London if we even voted to leave. Well, we are out and the banks remain here and new ones have opened.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@arpaulus ironically the people who voted for Brexit and didn’t realise the ramifications of it, especially a no deal scenario, are and will continue to be purchasers of German Cars!
@@paradisefound100 Where did you find that news ? All I get is an extension of Burnaston in 2020.
@@flitsertheo It was on the news about four weeks ago. Now, some people are blaming the shortages of products in stores on Brexit. Well, when did America, Australia, New Zealand etc leave the EU? The cause is Covid and the need for lockdown.
These pro no deal arguments have aged well
Because we had a series of deals and we don't know what would have happened under a no deal. Derby Toyota didn't close down, we didn't go into recession, wages are rising for the common man, more job openings than ever before. The doom and gloom misfired horrifically.
@@dave9102 except gdp has dropped by 0.1% even though we are fully open and it's the summer. It should be roaring +8%
@@speedyhillski According to the ONS the last 4 quarters of GDP growth were: 16.9% (Q3 2020), 1.3% (Q4 2020), -1.6% (Q1 2021) and 4.8% (Q2 2021). By your measure of "it should be roaring +8%". The UK has significantly exceeded your expectations.
@@dave9102 given covid it’s a bit disingenuous to look at recent quarters. I mean an increase in 16% is easy if your economy was largely shut off
A room full of squealing hogs, waiting for Farmer Mogg to come and bring them their slop.
And then eat them
@@nopasaran8660Animal Farm
Listening to this now in 2021...how delusional it all sounds, could you imagine if they had dropped out with *NO* deal!?!?
Agreed. But they did there best
The bloke who said ' all the voters wanted no deal ' didn't ask me.
Two years later. Angela is still selling cars in the uk, brits will pay more for them, that phone didnt ring at all, basically the uk shot himself in the foot, while europe stood and watched in amazement
WTF would "shooting myself in the head" scare anybody else in a negotiation-why would the EU be scared of a 'no deal' ?
Brian Harris Well maybe a suicide bomber who has strapped bombs to themselves is a better analogy: “Gimme what I want or I’ll blow us all to hell”. Then it’s a matter of how close are you standing to them when they blow. Ireland is standing closest.
Desperate stuff.
@@britbazza2529 deal or no deal is UK choice.
@@britbazza2529 the eu position has been consistently that the UK will not get membership benefits without being a member. that includes the possibility of no deal or hard brexit as it was called.
@@britbazza2529 and to add to V Heller's comment the EU have been preparing for a no deal brexit from the outset
@@britbazza2529 agreed, scrap GFA and GTFO.
"All the voters favour no deal". Where do they find these people?
Welcome to Question Time, it has a huge bias towards Brexit
And everyone let that go as is if wasnt silly. Fiona had a v.good first week and dodgy follow up performance.
@@darengardner6219 but that isnt all voters is it? do i need to explain to you the meaning of the word 'all'?. brexiteers appear to think that those people who didnt vote the way they did no longer have a voice and their opinions and concerns are no longer important. You do realise the number that you quoted 17.4 million is the number of those that voted to leave, and not the total number of those that voted overall. so clearly the use of the word 'all' is massively incorrect, but when did a brexiteer respect facts?
@MGBricks why Socrates hated democracy czcams.com/video/fLJBzhcSWTk/video.html
The BBC is a soft touch to the Brexit trolls. They make no effort to get balanced audiences
The lady was right. CTA does not cover car insurance. So all the drivers in NI and in Ireland will need to sort out their insurance. But that is just a small detail in a mountain range of small details.
“That phone will be ringing pretty quickly” still living in 2016 where trade deals between the UK and individual member states post exit, was fact, not utter fiction.
Still waiting
And still
"That phone will be ringing pretty quicky'... erm, no, it didn't.
That's the result of reading right wing bullshit for years, everything is viewed as some sort of standoff. If you asked this lot in divided LLY why they wanted out you wouldn't get a logical answer beyond parroted sound bites. Now they have at least a decade to regret third decision, and am increasingly vanishing status world-wide along with a shrinking economy
@@kevinwillis6707 Conservatives think their delusions are worthy of as much consideration as reality.
Still hasn't rung Ill bet he's still saying that
Wait a minute ! It's just a matter of time !
It rang and they said: protect the common market, it has served us well.
It's incredible to hear all the cheering. I have less and less sympathy for the English populace as the days go by. This is what they want.. let them drown in it.
I love how the guy stated "the EU have stood shoulder to shoulder" not recognising that this is what it means to be in the EU or leaving the EU. The EU will risk those 2 million jobs caused by losing UK business in order to protect another 100 million by letting a non-member dictate terms to the other 27 members.
he was also parroting absolute pub nonsense about how they actually work. The EU PUBLICLY published their negotiating stance on the EU public website and all of their recommendations and actions were made freely available. Its the same as the crap that the UK government indoctrinated the gormless with when they stirred up anti-eu sentiment with claims that EU red tape and bureaucracy held Britain back and was a stumbling block to growth... Funny how all of a sudden, once we have left, we suddenly find that being in the EU means NO RED TAPE OR BUREAUCRACY and being out of it means you can't take a sausage across the Irish border and every item in the lorries at dover and calais have to be declared, described and itemised with the resulting 20mile tail-backs
Funny. Germany basically said “eff you.” Guess what? The UK was the big loser there.
How about we talk about how some people haven’t got a table, never mind what’s on it?
Two years after the fact, this is hilariously funny and incredibly tragic at the same time.
I can't bear watching these gammon fools. 2 minutes was already too much for me.
How anyone with a working brain can watch QT is beyond me. The audience is infuriating. I can't even watch the entirety of this video without getting a headache as I can feel my braincells dying.
Reflecting on it with the benefit of hindsight, you might just be correct.
Clapping seals. Astonishing.
Dunning kruger is our new national sport. Thick as fuck
Ignorance is bliss
Yeah it’s depressing. I stopped watching long before Fiona Bruce took over. They always clap such simplistic daily mail style quotes that don’t match up to reality. I don’t know if they still do it but also hated when they had celebs on.
Seeing this less than a year later, but how the turns have tabled
4:19
Finally a sensible person.
Unfortunately a lot of brexiter will ignore him just because of his skin color.
The old German car industry myth again, completely busted.
They also forgot to mention that the UK exports 800k cars to eu countries each year. That's about 50% of all UK car production per year.
I am not sure why they have Isabelle on here , she's a toff pretending to be one of" the plebs" and it just doesn't work .
All the arguements I hear and see from Brexit voters are recycled rubbish that's been washed rinsed and repeated .
It's getting old fast , and that is what is worrying . They can't come up with nothing new as their old arguements are torn to shreds .
That is what scares me .
ok , ya , but look , daddy left me a £500,0000 trust fund and the EU is trying to make me pay tax on it . so stuff you peasent .
It's the same old ignorant bollocks that is being argued but Leavers are still buying it. When you have half the England population as thick and ignorant as Derby then really there is no hope for the UK.
Let's just go ahead with a no deal Brexit and the ones at the bottom of the barrel who voted it in can feel it's pain the hardest.
@@ELCNUmorFnaMehT And what about innocent children who didn't have a vote and can't help it if their parents are idiots ? Do they deserve to starve to death
This video makes me want to cry.
Love the way that the English think there bigger and better than the whole EU, & there precence is somehow needed..
Love the way the British.
"They're" bigger.
"Their" presence.
@@philippeberaldin5457 desperate..
I used to watch question time until brexit. I stopped watching when I saw how ignorant the hand picked audience was!!!!
As a passionate Remainer and a person who has studied in depth as many as possible of the arguments for and against Brexit, I am astonished by the loud audience applause when a no deal Brexit was advocated. This will cause massive and lasting economic harm and dreadful disruption to the lives of our citizens and is surely the worst possible option open to us. Is it not time for us all to get real? We stand to lose far more than the other countries in the E U and those people who believe otherwise are simply deluding themselves.
Michael Wadge
Understood it’s like having to repeatedly tell an unruly child not to play with lighted matches, I’m beginning to think if your going to be this stupid after all the facts have been repeatedly stated then go right ahead and take the consequences.
It's soul destroying
Jack Kruese This is exactly my conclusion too! Well said.
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What’s a lighted match ? It’s the same thing as a lit match. Both are usable in this context. If there is any other English grammar advice you need my friend do let me know.
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Correct I mis used your and you re and yes I was being a bit patronising in response purely as a joke but can I make a much bigger point to you than the mere use of grammar. Isabell Oakeshotts comments might appeal to some people, as good old fashioned “ we ll fight them on the beaches”, bloody foreigners, fighting talk, but unfortunately it’s not summer 1940 but 2019 and Anand Menon s point is unfortunately much closer to the truth. Just one example, Toyota s near Derby and Brexit threatens their continued future in the UK. Now as i see it we re all supposed to be on the same side here and WTO puts this country s future in serious danger and I don’t want my future anymore than I want yours or anyone else’s future put in serious jeopardy, because of some mis guided notion on sovereignty. All the best.
.....I've yet to hear of ANY benefits of the Brexitbollox.
....and please don't go on about the "sovereignty" and "blue passport" bollox.
These two speakers were accurately describing the future of massive disruption from brexit and the majority of the audience just could not comprehend it.
And the best is yet to come!
What's happening at the moment over here in the UK is nothing compared to what is yet to come, the EU are not enforcing Britain to do many things yet and are still giving them time to sort there sh*t out, which isn't going to happen ever, I think pretty soon the EU are going to get completely p*ssed off with the British Govt playing about all the time and getting extensions on extensions while at the same time hearing the UK govt ridicule the EU on almost everything, soon the EU will of had enough of the UK govts silly games and just say right this is it, from tomorrow you will comply with the laws or all talks are off the table, no more extensions on anything.
Then we will be completely up the creek without a paddle. This is why i am moving to The Philippines.
If a 3rd world country, with an elected dictator as president with a population of mainly gun carrying citizens, is a better option in life than my home country of Wales then there's definitely something wrong somewhere down the line.
Soon there will be LiVE aid gigs to feed the hungry in the UK, we are already using UNICEF to feed some kids over here since Brexit.
Apparently the phone call from Angela Merkel about german cars never came😏
Interesting watching this in 2021 when we have left with a deal of sorts and the country is reaping not one single benefit from leaving. Project fear is proving to be project reality and it's going to get worse. Thank you Brexiteers !!!!!
Project Fear was nonsense, it was just to frighten the electorate and you know that. Brexit will be proved worthwhile when Boris gets his act together.
I love how the goon who made the poker analogy is so totally disconnected from actual current affairs that he thinks the EU did their negotiating in secret. The EU published and publicly announced every aspect of their negotiating positions from the start, no secrecy involved. UK media did a crap job of reporting that, but it was still reported, and anyone who can read could have sought out that information. The EU, time and time again implored the U.K. to make its negotiating positions public and to tell them what it wanted, the U.K. government refused to do so, in fact it never even actually agreed what its position was, you could argue it still hasn’t. These people are so ignorant that they actually don’t deserve a vote on what’s for tea let alone the future of their own country.
Similarly he talks about the Germans needing to sell cars to us, but you can only sell something there is demand for. We choose to buy those cars, and all no deal would mean is they would come with tariffs attached. Guess who would pay that when there is no domestic owned producer of cars to compete against?. Nonsensical and ignorant on many levels.
Watching this in 2021 is actually painful. Why did Britain think that the EU wanted them so badly?
This has aged well
Oh this video aged well. Everyone should have paid a lot more attention to the gentleman on the left.
This audience typify why the public should never have been asked in the first place.
or be allowed to breed without first passing a basic IQ test.
Right, do away with democracy! Have your little Totalitarian state! Orwell would be double-plus un-proud of you.
@@ChollieD - Who's doing away with Democracy?
@@TechnoGenic79 Right on!
@@ChollieD Orwell would have seem through the brexiter bullshit for what it is, lies and propaganda.
Watching this in 2021 is fascinating.
Anand Menon stood head and shoulders above the rest of the UK commentariat on the 4 years of Brexit WA negotiations: smart, clear and objective.
This is so funny.... I love CZcams sometimes
Tens of millions of brexiters believed the stupidity that no deal would be better than a bad deal.
I go to my landlord and tell him look, I want a bigger house and pay less for it or I move out and live on the street. And I terminate my contract before I have a new deal.
How us no deal better than any deal where I can stay until I found a new place? Most people would be happy to accept a 10% rise just to not end up on the street.
And if the deal I am asking for is not on the market to be had, what I lose is a fiction.
I wonder what the audience members think now?
I have to say that you got to admire how positive British people are. This guy on the left is so right, the blond girl is so wrong. No deal would be the worst thing that could ever happen to the UK. I am so shocked that some people in the audience or the ones sitting by the table don’t get it.
Depends on individual view.
@@corradomancini3271 What do you mean by that?
@@polishnorwegianandspanish9145 - the female journalist, the one you described as ‘blonde girl’ as if implying that a blonde girl is somehow less intelligent, in my opinion is absolutely right…
Still waiting for my Brexit unicorn...
German here: Please leave. Enough is enough. We will take the jobs (like those from car companies and the financial sector) you will lose.
Poland will also clean up. Any sensible small to medium sized business that actually makes something should move to Poland. Cheaper, better, in the EU. The weather although bad is still better than the uk, because it has clear seasons, unlike the UK's perpetual grey and drizzle with its 4 days of sun.
I'm just sorry for Ireland, the Netherlands and Belgium. Such a shame for them.
Although I'm in Italy, so practically none of this affects me.
Sadly 😔 you are right.
F. S. Don’t worry we will leave and the EU will collapse yippeeee
@@tomgjgj no but your government is a little sketchy to, so I wouldn't be so smug yet!
3:43 I wonder how many Leave voters are still clinging to the “They need us more than we need them” idea.
I wonder how many remainers are still clinging to the “there will be mass unemployment just from agreeing to vote for a deal, inflation will go through the roof, there will be a major house price crash, Japanese companies will leave in their droves, long unmanageable queues at the ports and so on and son on”!
New electric van being built at Vauxhall😁
@@martinjay3570 congrats! It's only costing 400 million in taxpayer subsidies to keep it open! And it's 43 percent owned by Renault, ahh the good old British car industry....
And two years later i wonder what these vegetables think now that they know what a shambles it is.
This has aged well !
Hope these fools are still cheering on 2 years on
They probably are.,,it’s a cult
This clip is a stunning rebuke of democracy.
“By leaving no deal on the table it’s scaring the EU to come back to the table”.
Yeah, that worked well for us, didn’t it?
But we live beyond the facts era ...
The insanity of Brexit is becoming clear for all to see. Time for those who supported Brexit to re-evaluate their decision?
"All the voters want no deal" ...unchallenged...shows the level of debate. A totally fallacious statement when many who voted Leave wanted what was once called a common market
3:46 "That phone will be ringing pretty quickly" - LOL - even back then it was clear that was horse muck. He'll be one of the clowns saying now we're being bullied and/or the EU are unreasonable.
🤣🤣 the woman's reaction at 3:50 is priceless, the agonising pain of having to endure such undiluted nonsense.
3:15
What a band of fools...
If you walk away from buying a house you keep you existing home tho. This silly girls analogy is flawed, unless she’s suggesting we revert to where we where before we started negotiating. Ie, remaining in The Eu.
How right was this man.
2021: the EU is so scared by the strong UK, Ah ah ah ah
3:55 That geezer saying Angela Merkel will be on the phone if we walk away...... err no she won’t as it happens.
Ignorance is bliss, prejudice is heaven apparently.
Oh yeah the EU were really scared of No Deal weren't they?!
That guy was comparing brexit whit a game of poker and he wants to play his hand :))).
I'm so happy that UK is out 😎😄👍. Well done brits 👍👍👍. Honda left and 3500 brits are happy 😎😎😎😎
I really want to see that audience reunited in 2021 and see what they applaud now…
2022
Yeah !
That lad with the cartoon face with the Angela Merkel phone call !
Priceless.
I just laughed at the car analogy and the German car industry phoning merkel
brexiteers so short-sighted no idea how the EU works
In hindsight, it is interesting to see the blind 'hurray-patriotism' in the audience. So, I have no pity for those now suffering from Brexit, sorry, you all voted for it!
Your uploads and tweets have been great, sorry to hear you're having to scale back (although i can perfectly understand). Same issue (grave-humorously) exits across all sectors and businesses of/in the UK economy - (not sure if that was your point or not?).
How can such a number of the UK population not already know what Anand Menon stated last night yet alone 2 bloody+ yrs ago?... its still bewildering to me.
Does anyone know if that mythical call from Angela Merkel ever came? I haven't heard anything so far.
A guy with dark skin sits patiently and rationally telling latent xenophobes that their blind patriotism has led them to fall off the bus. I loved it 👍
Ophelia Bawles maybe he could move to the central or Eastern EU 🤔
@@bushwhacked7112 l lived in Poland one month. Tsjekkia three years.
I'm not sure if they would listen. Central Europe is not really a warm-hearted or cuddly place, and it's not certainly not known for it's tolerance.
The only three cultural exports of central Europe is Polka and alcohol, and Kafka although the place very nearly depressed him to death.
@Mobile Phone don't expose your skin to sunlight, it may darken, best bet is to wear a bag on your head at all times
When's that phone gonna ring?
The woman's reaction behind him says it all!
Dec 2020, still no phone call from Angela
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the muppet show hosted by Isabel Oakeshott.
This aged well...
This has aged so well...
Well, this didn't age well for the no deal Brexitears did it LOL.
I amazed no one answered that desperate call that was supposed to come from Germany.
There was a car sale analogy at the start. Just to clarify our position... we have arrived at the car dealership. We have torched our car, so we can’t get home. There is a reasonably priced banger, or mystery car X (that kind of looks like a blanket over a wheelbarrow at the minute). That’s what we are negotiating for. Not sure it’s worth cheering?
I would like to know what those individuals who cheered “No Deal” think how Brexit is going for them. Moreover, I would like to see Johnson or any one of the other Arch-Brexiteers being interviewed on their promises and the reality of Brexit.
They were not on that level of thinking. The retirees mostly voted on some blinkered principles of yesteryear. Our scum mostly voted to stick it to the government. At that level of thinking they got everything they wanted. They don't give a shit about the rest of it because it's 3-4 levels above their thinking.
Bizzarely 51percent of Tory voters think brexit is going well! .........wait til it affects them personally and it'll be a different story altogether.
@@matthewyabsley Oh, the yesteryears! The NHS is going to go back to glass blood tubes that can be washed and recycled if they want to carry blood tests.🥺
We never got no deal so they’ll say everything would have been great if Boris played poker better. Though tories are still popular with leave voters so those still liking them will blame bad things on covid or say everything is fine (delusional that the worst is over).
@@MimiMimi-iy2dr You have identified the major excuse for Tory’s future failures. They can now blame Covid for all our problems and shortages and ignore the massive impact of leaving the EU.
You can fool all of the fools all of the time.
Watching this again you can see who was lying.
The analogy of going to buy a car and walking away if you don't like the deal is an argument for remaining! The person walking away goes back to what they had when they went in.
Still waiting for merkle to phone for the car sales
Angela Merkel a sell cars on the side? Who knew
This aged well
Wow this is funny. Goodness the British public is thick. Did the phone ring by the way?