Capsize, recovery and shots of damage in this report on Day 3 of Prada Cup in Auckland. Reporter: Alec Wilkinson. Credits: Stills-COR36/Studio Borlenghi
Thanks for sharing the footage of the resque and salvage operations of the American Magic. I don't understand why the AC youtube channel cut their show short and not show what happened to the half submerged boat.
0:35 Wow. Never thought I would ever see an ac75 getting fully airborne! A Windsurfer airborne..yes all the time but an 8 ton boat?? Epic and hope the crew were ok.
Awesome to see everyone helped. Reckon the Britts learnt a whole bunch during the previous rounds and made the adjustments. Now their boat is a serious contender...
I live near the waterside and this race course. I was driving home around 9pm and the boat was still out there. They slowly towed it back to their port and on the news it said they got back at about 12:30am
@@kwader_1404 here is the thing. I would say is not possible to give an exact time because each person is different. I personally don't know how long I took because I was born into it, didn't really had a choice (not that I complain tho). Some of my family give classes and usually they have a few sessions (maybe 5 to 10 sometimes more) of 4-5 hours and seem to be able to learn and practice the basics but keep in mind they keep going out and practicing so they basically are learning with experience, but sometimes there is one or two people that even after an year of practicing seem to have an hard time. On the other hand, majority of those seem to have that problem on their own fault. Sometimes those that attend the classes seem to create a theory on their heads of how this works and ant really move on from that, which usually doesn't allow them to learn much. I would say sailing is more about sensitivity and feeling the vessel (instinct) than thinking about its theory, which might be good to know, but on the moment, things happen fast, so if you stop to think about what is happening and how to act that thing already happened when you finally make a decision. So what o want to reach with this is that, as long you are able to open yourself to learn, I would say it won't take much time, to learn the basics that is, perfect them is a matter o practice. When I went to optimists I had the advantage to have born in the environment but still had a lot to learn and practice but usually was a matter of go there, see what works and what not, the instructor would give some tips until we got it right. After a couple of sessions everyone was able to sail on their own, Still not perfect, still far from be on the best, but able to do the basic stuff. Sorry if I couldn't be more helpful, but has I said, I feel its hard to know as it depends.
Having turned over an A scow, as well as flipping a few optis in my youth, I can confidently say that there is a slightly different feeling. It sort of shifts from "Oh shit, there goes my race" to "Shit, this is going to be expensive".
Unfortunately prone to capsizing is a tradeoff when you design your boat for pure speed, the lack of a weighted keel makes these boats more at risk to it. It’s fine for racing, but I keep seeing people suggest designing *cruisers* like this and this is an example of why that’s not a good idea.
I love these high speed boats. I hear complaints about traditional boats, but there are plenty of races for that. For example, having to face up to hurricane strength seas in the Sydney to Hobart race means that more traditional yacht shapes will always be required there. Both types have their place, and just like Formula 1 is not like touring cars, seeing the highest tech in America’s Cup series is a cut above the rest. The very first America’s cup was won by a yacht with technological advancements over British boats, and then Australia II wrestled it off the Americans with it revolutionary winged keel, these series have always been characterised by the latest tech. It is wonderful to see how far they have come.
To all you people saying go back to the old days where the boats are in the water get real, that will kill the America’s cup, pushing the boundaries has brought more eyes to your sport like myself and many of my friends that don’t normally watch yachting.
I remember when the 12m 'Young America' (or some name like that) broke in half with forestay/backstay tension. Whatever class they choose they are always cutting edge technology 'on the limit'.
This is a fate that could befall any of the boats competing. As a kid back in the early sixties I saw an Enterprise on Rotherham reservoir Picked up clean out of the water and dumped on the bank by a gust ,so not reserved for foilers only.
Believe it or not but I once got a funboat fully airborne when out for a bash in 37 knots. Hit a the bowwave of a passing RIB on a broad reach and bloody nearly broke the thing clean in half. There were stress lines across the width of the hull where it had buckled as the bow dug in and I vanished 10 metres forard
Woah that was a hell of a capsize ! These boats are freaking amazing but I never thought you could tip one over like that. Real shame about the damage, I hope they can repair it because they were flying !!
they wont be able to make the repair to the level would normally be reqiure to allow it to stay in but know they why the world works today they will get a pass just because if not the sport will instantly lose over half it viewers and the sport only manages to stay alive due to viewers and the money they bring in
@@PushbuttonFYM It looks like the whole side of the boat caved in, you can see cracked and damaged carbon running from the bow to just past the foils. The hole is the least of their problems, they need to rebuild an entire side of their boat in under 4 days, which I think is impossible. I think we will be seeing their first boat on the water come Friday.
The reflections from the hull make it a bit difficult to see what is going on, but the view at 3:21 seems to show brittle fractures propagating in multiple radial directions. You'd have to cut out any material that has been plastically deformed and/or demonstrate separation from the CFs. Integration with the remaining hull at the repair boundary will be hellishly difficult. And restoring the hull shape will be really interesting too. All the best of luck to the team in the hopes something can be done.
@@PushbuttonFYM Supposed update is its battery unit that made the hole, not foil mechanism (though likely foil mechanism hit unit inside I would think...). Also explains why they had no power to drop the foil arm during re-right like is seen in other capsizes
The WEF with their 'we must learn to cooperate' lecturing do not understand that humanity already cooperates when it's necessary and does it really well.
NZ did far more than help rescue this vessel. They opened up their manufacturing facility to the US and built new CF panels to replace those ripped out during the crash. Don't think this would happen in most other sporting arenas!
Easy they got hit by a squall as they were rounding a bouy with the foils down. The squall then sped them up therefore increasing the lift from the foils to the point where the foils then broke the surface of the water. Now not enough righting force to counter the heeling force of the squall and over they go.
So regarding the damage, the smack back down on the water broke the hull side between the framing, pretty much “snap on dotted lines” The thing with boat design is you make the boat strong enough for the loads plus a safety margin, the bigger the margin the heavier the boat. If it breaks its too light, if it doesn’t break it’s too heavy “
Punched a hole, looks like a battery came through. Me thinks this boat has seen it's last race this year. Not just the potato chip hull but hink of all the hi tech electrics being saltwater dunked
I hope they get it all fixed - we all want to see what they can do out on the race course. The hull looks cracked/damaged well beyond the obvious hole - and how did their electronics fare?
Most are probably fine, they are probably all waterproof. maybe some motors and other small bits damaged, but overall the electronics are probably fine.
@@levio1463 I wouldn't be so sure of that. They would have some water proofing for sure, but I doubt it would have been designed to spend 8 hour submerged. Plus all of the connectors, wiring etc. The other thing I was looking at was the leeward arm. It basically took all of the force and there could be some deformation around where it attaches to t he hull.
@@MartinSparkes-BadDragon No doubt. What do you suppose was the load imposed on that foil when the boat was dropped from height? Kinda like a compound fracture when breaking a leg
@@MartinSparkes-BadDragon Just watched the press conference, and a lot of our assumptions were wrong. they said they are replacing the entire foil cant system, electronics, and that section of the hull, with a lot of the components coming from their first boat. also the hole was just caused by the bulkheads cutting the cull in a weird way.
What force rights these boats after a capsize? It seemed to pop back up quickly..... Edit: I see now it didn't.... just this video editing made it look that way....presumably they needed a line to haul it up.
AM is going to struggle to fix the boat -- there appears to be a significant hole, perhaps cut intentionally, that will have to be patched without affecting the performance in the water. But, just about everything electrical and mechanical will have to be replaced because to salt water damage. Four days is not looking realistic. Too soon to fully count them out but not too soon to suspect they are the first to be eliminated.
you realise most every part of the boats can be hot-swaped in less then 6 hours right and also what would salt water be able to damge sealed wiring you also do realise that one of the thing all boat have to be able to do before their allowed is the flooding test its like test number 9 of the 63 test all boats must be able to past
Other than this race, I think anything with the name ‘American Patriot’ is the biggest winner. I’m an American Patriot, of Asian descent. I am a winner. :)
American is synonyms with highest dept , highest violent crime rate, highest gun crime, out of control racism, and a slew of other categories you're number 1 in
Can't they luff the mainsail when threatened with capsize and when they try to right it after capsizing? The pressure was never released from the mainsail in either case.
Huge respect for New Zealand, Italy and everyone else who helped repair the boat ❤️
no problem 🇮🇹
It is a law of the sea 🇮🇹
I'm old enough to remember watching the 1983 America's Cup as a child. Its amazing how racing yachts have changed.
After the accident. Everyone helped, Italians, New Zealanders all helped. That is sailing too. Great people
Great sportsmanship with the other teams lending a hand.
No shit! Hundred of millions are invested in the teams!
Exactly! 👍👍
Way to go guys.!!!
Thanks be to Allah, Trump wasn't on the opposing team. That boat woulda sunk for lack of help.
@@WickBeavers Rent free
Thanks for sharing the footage of the resque and salvage operations of the American Magic. I don't understand why the AC youtube channel cut their show short and not show what happened to the half submerged boat.
Avoid commercial embarrassment for American Magic... that type of failure shouldn't happen
Because people with huge hourly rates need to be stopped getting paid lol
They already had delays with the abandoned race. The production team have a limited broadcast window
Torpedo from Chinese Sub????
I was more charmed by the camaraderie of the community pulling together to get the boat up. Great story! Thanks for posting!
This is a billion times better than anything the ACE has put out on this capsize. Thank you!
A pishure of the USA boat perhaps, but the rest is just a journalist's editing and warming the air around himself.
Hope they get it repaired fast.
Thank you to all for the emergency assist with the American boat!
The sailing community is a class act indeed! Well done!
Excellent reporting and commentary!
Good to see the other teams helping!! Thank you!!
0:35 Wow. Never thought I would ever see an ac75 getting fully airborne! A Windsurfer airborne..yes all the time but an 8 ton boat?? Epic and hope the crew were ok.
8 tons?!?!!?!?! I would have never guessed it was that heavy.
It's all power to weight ratio. Basic physics.
Class and sportsmanship..What a great advertisement for the sport.
Great well put together guys 👍
It only take 2 boats to have a race, but the community always comes together when anyone needs help...Fair Winds!!
What community? I only saw New Zealanders helping.
u at all familiar with Am. Cup?
Superb effort from all involved after very competitive race. So sad to see the damage done but loved the sportsmanship.
top coverage and commentary! cheers!
This event shows just how much these sailors care about each other and the sport. Really exciting racing with these pros pushing to the max.
race sailors always do
Awesome to see everyone helped. Reckon the Britts learnt a whole bunch during the previous rounds and made the adjustments. Now their boat is a serious contender...
The serious contender..
Cool! nice video!
fantastic sportsmanship
I live near the waterside and this race course. I was driving home around 9pm and the boat was still out there. They slowly towed it back to their port and on the news it said they got back at about 12:30am
That was amazing to see the NZ crew, including the skipper, all over the American boat trying to help.
A true show of respect and Sportsmanship for sure. Touching Actually.
thats what kiwis are like
@@londonbeatz We need more Kiwis!
Finally, some footage of the rescue and salvage operations, where did you get access to all those shots
Nice to see other teams helping save the boat... after all this may actually be a "friendly competition between foreign countries"
Just wild, technology has come so far!!
So when do we get the detail as to what really happened to make hole in the hull that size?! Half a story.
Wonderful to see opponents helping an opposing team in today's world !
With these two major gashes in her hull it's amazing they managed to get her back to the hoists!
Stormy Daniels had bigger gashes and she sailed again!
@@picardmadeoff1068 with only 130K and Don's help plugged the hole.
Just discovered this racing about 10 min ago. Love how they help eachother
First thing my old man taught me about sailing: "Keep the water out and the people in."
I love wonderful communities.
These boats r INCREDIBLE
Gunna take a lot flex tape to fix that.
Волшебство !!
Amazing...
What a pain to get all the salt off! I’m glad I’m not on the crew!! This is all part and parcel of sailing though. We’ve all been through it.
marvellous
Does anyone else see the irony of them being sponsored by Airbus?
🤣👍
awesome
Anyone that's sailed an Opti and capsized knows that feeling.
true.
tho my worst experience was being catapulted from an hobie cat.
@@13dg I'm trying to learn sailing how much time does it take to learn the basics of sailing a small dinghy may I ask?
@@kwader_1404 here is the thing. I would say is not possible to give an exact time because each person is different.
I personally don't know how long I took because I was born into it, didn't really had a choice (not that I complain tho).
Some of my family give classes and usually they have a few sessions (maybe 5 to 10 sometimes more) of 4-5 hours and seem to be able to learn and practice the basics but keep in mind they keep going out and practicing so they basically are learning with experience, but sometimes there is one or two people that even after an year of practicing seem to have an hard time. On the other hand, majority of those seem to have that problem on their own fault. Sometimes those that attend the classes seem to create a theory on their heads of how this works and ant really move on from that, which usually doesn't allow them to learn much.
I would say sailing is more about sensitivity and feeling the vessel (instinct) than thinking about its theory, which might be good to know, but on the moment, things happen fast, so if you stop to think about what is happening and how to act that thing already happened when you finally make a decision.
So what o want to reach with this is that, as long you are able to open yourself to learn, I would say it won't take much time, to learn the basics that is, perfect them is a matter o practice.
When I went to optimists I had the advantage to have born in the environment but still had a lot to learn and practice but usually was a matter of go there, see what works and what not, the instructor would give some tips until we got it right. After a couple of sessions everyone was able to sail on their own, Still not perfect, still far from be on the best, but able to do the basic stuff.
Sorry if I couldn't be more helpful, but has I said, I feel its hard to know as it depends.
Having turned over an A scow, as well as flipping a few optis in my youth, I can confidently say that there is a slightly different feeling. It sort of shifts from "Oh shit, there goes my race" to "Shit, this is going to be expensive".
So much for magic! :D
Sportsmanship. ✌️❤️🇳🇿
Fothering sail in action. Nice save.
In interview the US seemed to suggest they're missing round robins 3&4
Yes i think thats the caee now. They have a second chance by playing off the 2nd place finisher for the prada cup
Teamwork makes the Dream work...
Oh I feel sorry. Nice Team. The choosing of foils color is also nice ;)
So sad, I almost cried watching that, unbelievable passion shown by everyone.
It was hilarious 😂😂😂
@@jamesfletcher474
seriously!
its JUST a boat owned by some mega-rich dude.
no tears to be shed EVER unless someone gets seriously injured or dies.
@@TheSighphiguy It was extra funny because it was the americans
Please explain why you almost cried at a ridiculously expensive boat capsizing?
Exactly lol
Faaark! That's a 75 foot long boat.
AMERICAN MAGIC TRAGIC !! DROP THAT MAIN SALE ON DEMAND.
What a Bummer !!!
Some of the other teams come in to help. ❤😭❤😭❤😭❤
Unfortunately prone to capsizing is a tradeoff when you design your boat for pure speed, the lack of a weighted keel makes these boats more at risk to it. It’s fine for racing, but I keep seeing people suggest designing *cruisers* like this and this is an example of why that’s not a good idea.
Brilliant! You must be a navel anthropologist. I always say, "go with the Vendee Globe boats if you wanna go for a Sunday sail.
@@WickBeavers That's what I do with mine. And I go grocery shopping in my Formula 1 :-) :-)
I love these high speed boats. I hear complaints about traditional boats, but there are plenty of races for that. For example, having to face up to hurricane strength seas in the Sydney to Hobart race means that more traditional yacht shapes will always be required there. Both types have their place, and just like Formula 1 is not like touring cars, seeing the highest tech in America’s Cup series is a cut above the rest. The very first America’s cup was won by a yacht with technological advancements over British boats, and then Australia II wrestled it off the Americans with it revolutionary winged keel, these series have always been characterised by the latest tech. It is wonderful to see how far they have come.
in the past you had to be able to sail your boat from your place you race for to the race line if you didnt your were not allowed to enter the race
@@duncanlanceoliver194 In the past you had to bang rocks together to make a knife to butcher a mammoth.
I like the helicopter sounds...for the drone shots.
in Auckland waterfront a container ship blasted 7 short 1 long, we were wondering why, now I know!
What fantastic sailboats. So fast just using wind power
So much for Ineos being a slow boat. 4-0 in the Prada Cup! The Americans struggling? Black is white!
this aged like fine milk
To all you people saying go back to the old days where the boats are in the water get real, that will kill the America’s cup, pushing the boundaries has brought more eyes to your sport like myself and many of my friends that don’t normally watch yachting.
I remember when the 12m 'Young America' (or some name like that) broke in half with forestay/backstay tension. Whatever class they choose they are always cutting edge technology 'on the limit'.
I heard on ABC that the Captain had to be cut when he strapped himself in. He was under water.
Owww!!! Where was he cut? His Leg? Not his...
@@WickBeavers I think he meant that other people had to cut his straps off, not that he was cut himself.
Impressionnant l'envolée, j'espère que le voilier pourra être réparé. Belle entraide entre équipes et joli coup de pub pour Emirate Fly Better.....
Just think AC yachts of old would cross oceans to get to the races...
Yep, completely different goal.
I hadn't thought of that. It really adds some perspective to modern developments.
If they had to foil with a 40 ton container...?? That would change the class.
Maybe an option for Sydney - Hobart ..?
But they didn't do 50 knots. I'll take Formula 1 over Model T any day!
@@lelievre12 Right - only 48 knots in light winds. LOL!
This is a fate that could befall any of the boats competing. As a kid back in the early sixties I saw an Enterprise on Rotherham reservoir Picked up clean out of the water and dumped on the bank by a gust ,so not reserved for foilers only.
Believe it or not but I once got a funboat fully airborne when out for a bash in 37 knots. Hit a the bowwave of a passing RIB on a broad reach and bloody nearly broke the thing clean in half. There were stress lines across the width of the hull where it had buckled as the bow dug in and I vanished 10 metres forard
0:44 Tabarnak! Bonjour du Québec!
Vcnv wr
Looks great as a submarine very stylish, bummer. Found some new limits 😁🤭
Woah that was a hell of a capsize ! These boats are freaking amazing but I never thought you could tip one over like that. Real shame about the damage, I hope they can repair it because they were flying !!
they wont be able to make the repair to the level would normally be reqiure to allow it to stay in but know they why the world works today they will get a pass just because if not the sport will instantly lose over half it viewers and the sport only manages to stay alive due to viewers and the money they bring in
老蕭加油!
Great Video! 3:03 that is a hole in the boat right? Ouch
How did it occur? Seems so wierd
@@spingbay7039 Speculation is that some part of the foil mechanism punched through from the inside when it came crashing down.
@@PushbuttonFYM It looks like the whole side of the boat caved in, you can see cracked and damaged carbon running from the bow to just past the foils. The hole is the least of their problems, they need to rebuild an entire side of their boat in under 4 days, which I think is impossible. I think we will be seeing their first boat on the water come Friday.
The reflections from the hull make it a bit difficult to see what is going on, but the view at 3:21 seems to show brittle fractures propagating in multiple radial directions. You'd have to cut out any material that has been plastically deformed and/or demonstrate separation from the CFs. Integration with the remaining hull at the repair boundary will be hellishly difficult. And restoring the hull shape will be really interesting too. All the best of luck to the team in the hopes something can be done.
@@PushbuttonFYM Supposed update is its battery unit that made the hole, not foil mechanism (though likely foil mechanism hit unit inside I would think...). Also explains why they had no power to drop the foil arm during re-right like is seen in other capsizes
The WEF with their 'we must learn to cooperate' lecturing do not understand that humanity already cooperates when it's necessary and does it really well.
Only one word: Magic!
If that had been a 32 version boat it would have been on the bottom in 45 seconds...
I see Ineos has moved from dominating the cycle sport to the sailing sport instead
NZ did far more than help rescue this vessel.
They opened up their manufacturing facility to the US and built new CF panels to replace those ripped out during the crash.
Don't think this would happen in most other sporting arenas!
Your analysis on why the capsize would have been good.
Easy they got hit by a squall as they were rounding a bouy with the foils down. The squall then sped them up therefore increasing the lift from the foils to the point where the foils then broke the surface of the water. Now not enough righting force to counter the heeling force of the squall and over they go.
Is it a big hole in the hull on 3:17? How they got the hole during capsize?
So regarding the damage, the smack back down on the water broke the hull side between the framing, pretty much “snap on dotted lines”
The thing with boat design is you make the boat strong enough for the loads plus a safety margin, the bigger the margin the heavier the boat.
If it breaks its too light, if it doesn’t break it’s too heavy “
Punched a hole, looks like a battery came through. Me thinks this boat has seen it's last race this year. Not just the potato chip hull but hink of all the hi tech electrics being saltwater dunked
Perhaps they should pack all empty space with foam but perhaps add too much weight?
Brotherhood of the sea
seems strangely symbolic of our times
Pride goes before the Fall.
Nice to see everyone wear a mask !!
Nobody cares. You wear you get COVID you don't you still get COVID. Live your life
sort of a metaphor for the country itself.
They tried to dump the main but the leeward runner was on. Cant make a mistake like that
No explanation about the hole ???
I hope they get it all fixed - we all want to see what they can do out on the race course.
The hull looks cracked/damaged well beyond the obvious hole - and how did their electronics fare?
Most are probably fine, they are probably all waterproof. maybe some motors and other small bits damaged, but overall the electronics are probably fine.
@@levio1463 I wouldn't be so sure of that. They would have some water proofing for sure, but I doubt it would have been designed to spend 8 hour submerged. Plus all of the connectors, wiring etc.
The other thing I was looking at was the leeward arm. It basically took all of the force and there could be some deformation around where it attaches to t he hull.
@@MartinSparkes-BadDragon No doubt. What do you suppose was the load imposed on that foil when the boat was dropped from height? Kinda like a compound fracture when breaking a leg
@@MartinSparkes-BadDragon Just watched the press conference, and a lot of our assumptions were wrong. they said they are replacing the entire foil cant system, electronics, and that section of the hull, with a lot of the components coming from their first boat. also the hole was just caused by the bulkheads cutting the cull in a weird way.
Such accidents are bad for the team but these guys are pioneering a technology that will improve and eventually be common place.
He hit something - look very very carefully....
Excellent coverage and insight on this unfortunate incident.
BTW: of the crowd watching from shore, why is no one wearing a mask or distancing..?
New Zealand is free of COVID-19. The only cases we have are in Managed Isolation and Quarantine (MIQ) Hotels.
Because in NZ we have zero covid community transmission, so we have very relaxed protocols now.
It's New Zealand which has,by good govt stopped covid in NZ
... but there are visitors there from elsewhere... All the same, the very best to everyone (:
@@ThatMichaelTGuy visitors still have to go into a 14 day quarantine (at their own expense NZD$3k pp) NZ is community COVID free.
I always thought of making a cruiser boat out of one of these
You know how bad this idea is, right?
OMG, release the sheets to reduce the heel!
What force rights these boats after a capsize? It seemed to pop back up quickly..... Edit: I see now it didn't.... just this video editing made it look that way....presumably they needed a line to haul it up.
AM is going to struggle to fix the boat -- there appears to be a significant hole, perhaps cut intentionally, that will have to be patched without affecting the performance in the water. But, just about everything electrical and mechanical will have to be replaced because to salt water damage. Four days is not looking realistic. Too soon to fully count them out but not too soon to suspect they are the first to be eliminated.
you realise most every part of the boats can be hot-swaped in less then 6 hours right and also what would salt water be able to damge sealed wiring you also do realise that one of the thing all boat have to be able to do before their allowed is the flooding test its like test number 9 of the 63 test all boats must be able to past
I guess these boats are no longer build to Lloyd’s specifications?
It seems that anything with the words 'American Patriot" is a disaster at the moment.....I'll get my coat.
Other than this race, I think anything with the name ‘American Patriot’ is the biggest winner. I’m an American Patriot, of Asian descent. I am a winner. :)
American is synonyms with highest dept , highest violent crime rate, highest gun crime, out of control racism, and a slew of other categories you're number 1 in
Looks like a job for " Flex Seal " Tape.
Дкмаю, что через 5 - 10 лет, такой маневр будет иметь успех))
Looks like the fore anchor support to the port foil mechanism punched through the hull as she splashed down after her 'take off'. Fixable?
If it’s carbon fiber then most likely yes you can layer it up and shape the hull any which way
@@joebloggs7177 True. But I was thinking about the gear inside that may have made the hole.
Looks like a real airbus heading up.
Imagine seeing one of these back in the 1700s or so just buzzing by not even touch the water.
Look, Jesus at the helm!
Very proud of all teams for pulling together to put American magic back on the water.
⁸
rule the waves
Can't they luff the mainsail when threatened with capsize and when they try to right it after capsizing? The pressure was never released from the mainsail in either case.
What created the whole in the boat? Just the impact on the plain water?
Hope they get back on the water soon