can this setup be me mixed as sterio, by doubling the guitar part? will the vocal bleeding in them affect if same panned left n right ? vocal part should be in centre right?
Graham, just wanted to thank you for this great tutorial :) What a great time to be alive when we have all you awesome people sharing your hard-earned knowledge online, sometimes on the other side of the globe!
I was shocked to see this video the other night. Mainly because the next day I was meeting a friend to record his acoustic performance using the exact same setup you used. Well, very similar. I used a Rode NT1a microphone and a second mic for more guitar. We used a Shure SM58 for the guitar body and the Rode NT1a for some guitar and mainly focused on vocals. It was nice to get a tip on doing this before doing it. I felt nicely prepared. Looking forward to seeing how you process the audio in the next video. Because my recording needs the help. Thanks for always providing top tips that are actually useful and applicable to us here at home. Cheers!
It sounded great! And the bleed actually helps glue everything together. The SM 57 response actually emphasizes an important part of the guitar so it completes the other condenser sound wihout an EQ. I though the condenser would pick a lot more of the vocals, it's surprising how much it rejected them.
Been following your videos for must be 10 years now. Learned a hell of a lot from you about recording, never seen you play though. Never knew you were such a good artist in your own right! Good job!
I’m enjoying going through your 6-step process for creating radio-ready tunes. When listening to your demo, I could hear where some awesome vocal harmonies would fit perfectly and add a pleasant dimension (didn’t know you were going to do that in your final mix at that point). And then in your final mix-BAM! I’m using an AEA ribbon mic and a CAD condenser mic (another AEA will be purchased this Fall), but recorded vocal and guitar cab from different sides of the room; however, after watching this video, I think I’m going to take advantage of the ribbon mic’s incredible side rejection capability and mount them sideways to see what results I get...seems promising! Thanks for a great tutorial. Okay, back to your 6 steps!
Very impressed by your suggestions. As a seasoned Engineer /Producer, I find it extremely important to check your ego at the door. I have this personal rule and that's remember your 'ABC' s' "Always Be Challenged '... I am truly blown away with that insane separation / isolation, of you Microphone choices and placement. Well done, Sir indeed!
Well done. Rode NT1 is my favorite mic for both guitar and vocal. It’s amazing how much the Rode adds to the vocal as soft as it is picked up. Magic. :-)
If you have a ribbon or a figure 8 Mic try that with the dead zone pointer towards the mouth... Can yield very nice results like very much nearly no bleed in my tests, I could overdubs the vocals later and even change the lyrics and nobody would notice
Hey, Graham quick tip...you can use a towel or a barbers cape to minimize bleed just place it in between the two mics and tide it to your neck. Simple Thats very useful if you are in the studio.
I love your set up, sounds great! One thing that could help is moving your vocal mic about 4-5 inches left (your perspective)... still angled at your face... this will reduce losing vocal consistency when turning to look at your guitar neck.
Great video, Graham...this helped solve our ongoing problem of how to capture the feel of our live jams, which often gets lost in overdubs. Much appreciated!
I like using 2 bidirectional mics one pointing at the guitar with the null pointing at the voice then the other pointing at the vocals and the null at the guitar. works amazing
It's not a super cheap way to do it, but using two ribbon microphones to do this is the absolute best. Ribbon mics have terrific rejection in the nulls/dead zones. There are several mid-high end condensers that give you the ability to get a figure 8 pattern mic, but they still don't reject as nice a ribbon mics. The bleed when doing this setup with ribbons is virtually undetectable. Check out a video on the Sterling Audio ribbon mics. Affordable and seem pretty nice.
Eureka! I've got it! You could make a shield out of very thin plexiglass that sort of comfortably rests on your shoulders and as it extends it widens to a bit beyond the mic stand separating the mics and the sound projected from the guitar and your voice. It's lightweight and clear and I know it would work for me anyway. I wouldn't perform with it lol but even If say you upload songs with you sitting and playing in your mini studios surrounded by your gear would you even see it? Depending on the lighting you could catch reflection but If it makes better recording sound for those who like to record while playin-n-singin who cares it you look like the professor from Back to the Future.🤓
Very hard to get right...phase issues.... Flashlight analogy , smart. A matter of degrees , subtle positioning changes can make large results. Good Video!
I have a Shure SM57 and they are amazing. Can be used on anything! I will be looking at a Rode for my acoustic. This is a great video, so useful. Thank you for sharing this info.
Great job as usual Graham. Last time I tried to record guitar and vocals I was somewhat underwhelmed with the results. I'll definitely try it this way now.
This is an amazing video Graham! It's a long time I follow you and I'm glad to see your constant growth. Thanks for your quite clear English speaking and pronunciation. It's a pleasure to hear and see. Regards from Argentinian Patagonia :)
Nice video. I’d always considered my SM57 to be mainly for gigs, but will give it a shot per your suggestion. Btw, I do a similar setup, but flip the guitar mic upside down to get better separation. Thx.
In editing you can separate the different volumes, making it easier to distinguish vocals and guitar. You can actually run a program that minimizes the background noise in live performance as well.
Terrific video Graham, just what I was looking for! I am doing research on just what audio equipment I would need to do this type of recording...............Thanks, Steve
Ok, this really helped me out. I was using the condenser mic on the vocals and my SM58 on the acoustic. Changing that around made my life much easier in getting the levels right. Thanks so much! My interface right now is an Allen & Heath Zed 10FX as I had it already for gigging. Just starting to try to record. Would I be better off getting a dedicated interface like a Focusrite 2i4 or a Moto m4 ( I want the midi interface)?
Graham, thanks for doing this! I can make thick and dense mixes sound pretty good, but am just not as good at doing this kind of sparse live type thing. You are the bee's knees.
Your videos are so incredibly helpful, i almost have the same mic setup (have a shureSM58 instead), but i always had problems making my stuff sound good. These tips really helped! Subscribed :).
Hi Graham!! Thank you very much!!! It would be great if you could make a video about the mixing of a track recorded this way, and how to deal with the bleeding so it is not noticeable in the mix. Cheers from Mexico!
@@kornjoe9 if you're sitting the guitar and mouth are for sure closer together. Depends though I guess how you hold it, or how low you let it hang when standing. Hmm ok actually after testing, yeah it really isn't a huge difference lol. Especially since my posture isn't great :p
Hello! This didn't work for me. I have the exact same guitar mic and followed the distance instructions. It actually picked up more vocals than guitar. Using logic pro x and a m-audio 2x2 card
You're better off using 2 condenser microphones and using them in fig 8. Point the null of each at the bleed you don't want. The nulls are deafer than the back of any cardioid pattern dynamic.
Hi Graham, what is the reasoning behind NOT plugging the guitar, say into the focusrite Solo? Wouldn't that be "Complete separation" of Vocals and Guitar? And then mixing would be easier, without bleeds? What are the cons of not plugging the guitar into the Audio Interface? Is it not possible to do that? I haven't tried, as I don't have the equipment to try yet.. I would love to know what you think! (Hope you see this!) Thanks brother!
Love your vids. Unfortunately, for the life of me I can not get Pro Tools First to work. Ableton, no prob. Cubase, no prob. BUT no one has laid out how-to vids like you have on those programs. Pro Tools even looks easier to use, but when I set up a project. Let's say just like this one. I get to the point of enabling the track for recording and I get a wall of static and the program crashes.
You can use something like the Zoom H6 with 2 mics and 2 XLR cables. Use the output cables to your camera mic input. Check levels on the camera itself and check levels on Zoom H6 before starting. You don't even need to hit record on the Zoom H6 for the audio to be burned into the footage on the camera. BUT of course you should record on the ZOOM H6 because it can be a backup.
Graham, do you plan to release more complicated recording and mixing tutorials. I've been watching your videos for years, and would benefit from a progression from beginner videos
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can this setup be me mixed as sterio, by doubling the guitar part?
will the vocal bleeding in them affect if same panned left n right ?
vocal part should be in centre right?
I'm crazy impressed with how much the guitar mic rejected the vocals! Nicely done sir!
i'm pretty sure it must be capturing way more once he starts to sing an octave up...
This vibe was so chill I watched the whole thing. Learned how mic point. Cool
yes Graham!
more acoustic and vocals videos!!!
Graham, just wanted to thank you for this great tutorial :) What a great time to be alive when we have all you awesome people sharing your hard-earned knowledge online, sometimes on the other side of the globe!
Not only are you a great Tutor you are a wonderful artist and songwriter. Just saying.😀
I was shocked to see this video the other night. Mainly because the next day I was meeting a friend to record his acoustic performance using the exact same setup you used. Well, very similar. I used a Rode NT1a microphone and a second mic for more guitar. We used a Shure SM58 for the guitar body and the Rode NT1a for some guitar and mainly focused on vocals. It was nice to get a tip on doing this before doing it. I felt nicely prepared. Looking forward to seeing how you process the audio in the next video. Because my recording needs the help. Thanks for always providing top tips that are actually useful and applicable to us here at home. Cheers!
It sounded great! And the bleed actually helps glue everything together.
The SM 57 response actually emphasizes an important part of the guitar so it completes the other condenser sound wihout an EQ.
I though the condenser would pick a lot more of the vocals, it's surprising how much it rejected them.
Been following your videos for must be 10 years now. Learned a hell of a lot from you about recording, never seen you play though. Never knew you were such a good artist in your own right! Good job!
I’m enjoying going through your 6-step process for creating radio-ready tunes. When listening to your demo, I could hear where some awesome vocal harmonies would fit perfectly and add a pleasant dimension (didn’t know you were going to do that in your final mix at that point). And then in your final mix-BAM! I’m using an AEA ribbon mic and a CAD condenser mic (another AEA will be purchased this Fall), but recorded vocal and guitar cab from different sides of the room; however, after watching this video, I think I’m going to take advantage of the ribbon mic’s incredible side rejection capability and mount them sideways to see what results I get...seems promising! Thanks for a great tutorial. Okay, back to your 6 steps!
Why did the song remind me of Incubus. I love this. Great video btw. I rarely watch a full performance when someone’s demonstrating
Very impressed by your suggestions. As a seasoned Engineer /Producer, I find it extremely important to check your ego at the door. I have this personal rule and that's remember your 'ABC' s' "Always Be Challenged '... I am truly blown away with that insane separation / isolation, of you Microphone choices and placement. Well done, Sir indeed!
Very helpful, thanks! I need to buy another mic stand.
These are very minute nuances but very very important for the recording as a guitarist should know. Brilliant video thanks for sharing it
Well done. Rode NT1 is my favorite mic for both guitar and vocal. It’s amazing how much the Rode adds to the vocal as soft as it is picked up. Magic. :-)
If you have a ribbon or a figure 8 Mic try that with the dead zone pointer towards the mouth... Can yield very nice results like very much nearly no bleed in my tests, I could overdubs the vocals later and even change the lyrics and nobody would notice
Hey, Graham quick tip...you can use a towel or a barbers cape to minimize bleed just place it in between the two mics and tide it to your neck. Simple
Thats very useful if you are in the studio.
El Xiquiatrack and you can’t see your guitar?
This worked out perfectly, thank you for the demonstration
I love your set up, sounds great! One thing that could help is moving your vocal mic about 4-5 inches left (your perspective)... still angled at your face... this will reduce losing vocal consistency when turning to look at your guitar neck.
Thank you! I’ve been looking for a good set up to record myself with one take instead of overdubs. This is great!
Great video, Graham...this helped solve our ongoing problem of how to capture the feel of our live jams, which often gets lost in overdubs. Much appreciated!
I like using 2 bidirectional mics one pointing at the guitar with the null pointing at the voice then the other pointing at the vocals and the null at the guitar. works amazing
Yeah! someone who really knows what they're doing!!
It's not a super cheap way to do it, but using two ribbon microphones to do this is the absolute best. Ribbon mics have terrific rejection in the nulls/dead zones. There are several mid-high end condensers that give you the ability to get a figure 8 pattern mic, but they still don't reject as nice a ribbon mics. The bleed when doing this setup with ribbons is virtually undetectable. Check out a video on the Sterling Audio ribbon mics. Affordable and seem pretty nice.
Eureka! I've got it! You could make a shield out of very thin plexiglass that sort of comfortably rests on your shoulders and as it extends it widens to a bit beyond the mic stand separating the mics and the sound projected from the guitar and your voice. It's lightweight and clear and I know it would work for me anyway. I wouldn't perform with it lol but even If say you upload songs with you sitting and playing in your mini studios surrounded by your gear would you even see it? Depending on the lighting you could catch reflection but If it makes better recording sound for those who like to record while playin-n-singin who cares it you look like the professor from Back to the Future.🤓
Joy Unspeakable and full of glory....
Graham, thank you! So much!
Very hard to get right...phase issues.... Flashlight analogy , smart. A matter of degrees , subtle positioning changes can make large results.
Good Video!
I have a Shure SM57 and they are amazing. Can be used on anything! I will be looking at a Rode for my acoustic.
This is a great video, so useful. Thank you for sharing this info.
Great break down. Song might not be everyone's cup of tea but cool to learn more techniques.
Great job as usual Graham. Last time I tried to record guitar and vocals I was somewhat underwhelmed with the results. I'll definitely try it this way now.
Thanks for the vid mate 👏 might get that sm57 mic myself now 🙂
Thanks Graham. I've learned so much from this channel. I always find something useful in your videos!
Graham, you are truly amazing! This was exactly what I was looking for, thank you so much.
This is an amazing video Graham! It's a long time I follow you and I'm glad to see your constant growth. Thanks for your quite clear English speaking and pronunciation. It's a pleasure to hear and see. Regards from Argentinian Patagonia :)
Been trying to figure out a way to record a live performance of acoustic guitar with vocals in real time. Gonna try this.
Im lucky I came across you channel..i've been looking for this type of tutorial ages ago but no joy..thank you...
Nice video. I’d always considered my SM57 to be mainly for gigs, but will give it a shot per your suggestion. Btw, I do a similar setup, but flip the guitar mic upside down to get better separation. Thx.
That performance was ROCKIN !!!! Keep it up Graham!
Thank you so much!!
In editing you can separate the different volumes, making it easier to distinguish vocals and guitar. You can actually run a program that minimizes the background noise in live performance as well.
Nolan Bennett which program?
good info...I have a cover on my YT channel I used your 1 mic method...worked well...
It's been stuck in my head for like a week now
@shelby Tonto white i couldnt find it on spotify f.e. .. its stuck in my head, too
Terrific video Graham, just what I was looking for! I am doing research on just what audio equipment I would need to do this type of recording...............Thanks, Steve
Very helpful, thank you Graham. Would be great to see how you'd go about mixing this!
Wonderful, wonderful simple and practical recording education. Thank you.
Great vid, Graham!
Thank you so much your videos have made a major difference in my recording
So helpful.
i have an om28 too - looks like i have the right mic and guitar - off to a good start
Thanks Graham!
You are an excellent teacher and a great inspiration!!
Thanks for sharing! Exactly what I was looking for mate.
Ok, this really helped me out. I was using the condenser mic on the vocals and my SM58 on the acoustic. Changing that around made my life much easier in getting the levels right. Thanks so much! My interface right now is an Allen & Heath Zed 10FX as I had it already for gigging. Just starting to try to record. Would I be better off getting a dedicated interface like a Focusrite 2i4 or a Moto m4 ( I want the midi interface)?
Graham, thanks for doing this! I can make thick and dense mixes sound pretty good, but am just not as good at doing this kind of sparse live type thing. You are the bee's knees.
Thank you.
Thankyou I learn to so much especially mic placement. So cool man. You might save me a trip to university :)
Great Job and very well explained
Thank you very much man. I learn a lot from your videos. God bless you
hey great voice Graham! I was surprised to hear much more bleed on the VOX MIC, and virtually none from the cardiod!
You are awesome, hope you'll continue with these tutorial videos for a long timee!!!
Superb, easy to understand and follow. great vid/breakdown
Your videos are so incredibly helpful, i almost have the same mic setup (have a shureSM58 instead), but i always had problems making my stuff sound good. These tips really helped! Subscribed :).
Thanks Graham. You're awesome.
Thank you your videos are very clear and concise.
Thanks this helped to record my songs !
Thank you
Thank you for sharing your wisdom
Love what your doing...........keep up the good work..............
Hi Graham!! Thank you very much!!! It would be great if you could make a video about the mixing of a track recorded this way, and how to deal with the bleeding so it is not noticeable in the mix. Cheers from Mexico!
Less bleed if you stood up to record bigger distance between mics
Makes total sense. He is about more than just recording. It's obvious
Care to elaborate? Seems like the guitar will just go with you, unless you strap it and play it lower?
@@kornjoe9 if you're sitting the guitar and mouth are for sure closer together. Depends though I guess how you hold it, or how low you let it hang when standing. Hmm ok actually after testing, yeah it really isn't a huge difference lol. Especially since my posture isn't great :p
Thanks Graham
These are very well done. Good info, and tightly edited. Much appreciated!!
I've got a man crush. Thanks for the tips. Lots of videos are too long and too complex. I like how you pick out the meat and let the gravy flow!
thanks alot for recording videos very great info
Love your videos, Graham! Thanks for the help.
Hello!
This didn't work for me.
I have the exact same guitar mic and followed the distance instructions.
It actually picked up more vocals than guitar.
Using logic pro x and a m-audio 2x2 card
Thanks for the helpful videos! Much appreciated!
Greatly detailed info!!! Thanks!
Thank you !!!!!
Can you upload a tutorial on how to setup the Central Station Plus and How To Calibrate The Meter And Ect PLEASE 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Thanks.
You're better off using 2 condenser microphones and using them in fig 8. Point the null of each at the bleed you don't want. The nulls are deafer than the back of any cardioid pattern dynamic.
Bravo! Thanks for sharing!
Thank you! I only want to ask if the phantom 48V could damage in some way the dynamic sm57.
I already have a R nt1a
Hi Graham, what is the reasoning behind NOT plugging the guitar, say into the focusrite Solo? Wouldn't that be "Complete separation" of Vocals and Guitar? And then mixing would be easier, without bleeds? What are the cons of not plugging the guitar into the Audio Interface? Is it not possible to do that? I haven't tried, as I don't have the equipment to try yet.. I would love to know what you think! (Hope you see this!) Thanks brother!
That is a great song brother.
Quite unbelievable that condenser rejects the vocals, its a tight close space I expected lots of bleed. Thanks!
That helps a lot Thanks
thank you buddie for this info great
Good job Graham! 🙌🏼🙏🏼👊🏼
Thanx for the tips!
Absolutely helping with my Pro Tools learning curve. Thanks for these vids. Follow-up question is how to add/sync drum track to the this?
Now that was awesome!
great song
Love your vids. Unfortunately, for the life of me I can not get Pro Tools First to work. Ableton, no prob. Cubase, no prob. BUT no one has laid out how-to vids like you have on those programs. Pro Tools even looks easier to use, but when I set up a project. Let's say just like this one. I get to the point of enabling the track for recording and I get a wall of static and the program crashes.
Nice :) Got to try this
wow thank you!
Is there a way to capture acoustic guitar and voice with a condenser mic, and record a video where the mic is connected to the camera?
You can use something like the Zoom H6 with 2 mics and 2 XLR cables. Use the output cables to your camera mic input. Check levels on the camera itself and check levels on Zoom H6 before starting. You don't even need to hit record on the Zoom H6 for the audio to be burned into the footage on the camera. BUT of course you should record on the ZOOM H6 because it can be a backup.
I'd buy an acoustic album from you. Sounds way cooler than full band...
Graham, do you plan to release more complicated recording and mixing tutorials. I've been watching your videos for years, and would benefit from a progression from beginner videos