It was because of the Galuth and nobody talks much about it to not insult the neighbours and ruin the relationships with the surrounding nations. That's how some jews are blond and blue eyed and some are black skinned. Like the neighbours who probably r..ed some their ancestors because giyour was rare most of the past 2000 years.
@@taltal6261 No on the contrary. In ashkenazi jews it is the paternal Y Dna that shows the most Levantine (middle east) ancestry. The maternal dna shows more southern European . The studies have been interpreted to show conversion on the maternal side. Conversion of locals in the early years of the diaspora is therefore plausible.
My father, a non Jew, reckoned this to be the reason. Without DNA testing, you can convince a man a child is his, but you will never convince a woman she's had a baby when she hasn't
A jewish friend of mine once told me that it became matrilineal cos the Jewish nation suffered anti-Semitic wars that sacrificed the males and often the men would be executed in a foreign land while women mostly would not be harmed so it made ‘sense’ for women to bear the continuity of the race and nation.
But whose surname does a jew take?That's more important..If a mother is jew and a father non-jew whose surname will the children go to?Let's hear some truths.A region in the north east has similar story but the children take the surname of the indigenous tribe..Kindly remember not the non-tribe I'm speaking of.😊
Ouch this is the first time i have seen him make a big mistake. He is getting confused between tribe identity and jewishness. Tribe identity was identified by the father, but whether they were jewish in the first place was ALWAYS determined by the mother. There are verses to demonstrate this, so it clearly wasnt a later invention. In fact the talmud relates that it is because of the jews at his time denying his legitimacy that he killed most of the sages, and later as a repentance he refurbished (in a big way) the temple complex.
He is fantastic. I worry about him though because of all the bloodthirsty Muslims in Palestine and Lebanon. Not to mention the militant Iranians. Could you imagine living there? Good bless Israel. The only free state in that region. Everyone wants to kick them out of the house they built. Not today. Thank God there are Muslims in Egypt, Jordon, and Saudi Arabia who get along w Israel and hate the Palestinians for trying to kill Israelis.
Another thing is that; the Tanach mentions that the Messiah will be from the descendant of King David, through Jesse, from the tribe of Judah. With no mention of his mum’s origin.
Interestingly from Chazal Sages Talmud Bavli "the Moschiach" comes from Lots illicit union with his daughter a "mamzar" if one research Torah Tanakh and Talmud in Yeshiva. This shows all of us to be humble. King Was mocked rejected since Ruth his great grandmother was a Ger convert as well. This is why convert s are to be respected and not mocked . תודה רבה שלום
I have heard it explained that your name comes from your father and your spirit comes from your mother. A mother carries her child for 9 month and the body and spirit of the child is formed within its mother.
In my country your name comes from your father. Example, If your father is Italian your mother is African you're Italian by your father's blood.. But here(south Africa) we do it according to tribes.
Herods Slaughtered 20.000 babies what a monster He killed one of his wives, Mariamne, and three of his sons: Alexander, Aristobulus, and Antipater. Think of the body count just within his own family: Four people. A wife and three sons! What kind of monster does that to his own family members?
Like most Israeli laws/rules they made complete sense in an ancient context but in a modern context we can know with 100% certainty who the father is. so to me this rule is antiquated and should be changed. If you have Jewish blood, you are jewish. It doesn't matter if it's your mother or your father.
Oren, the Orthodox Jewry got the answer long ago. The Jewish community learned it is the mother who contributes the mitochondria cells to the child during embryonic development, not the father so we changed it to the mother 🖖
Herods father was a convert to Judaism and it doesnt say whether his mother converted so I assume she did not. That being the case, Herod was not Jewish.
Exactly and it is insane to argue that accepting a religion changes one's ethnicity. Do I become Polish when I accept the catholic religion? NO! Herod's father was an Edomite and Herod was an Edomite.
@@vulc1I mean there's still room for ethnicity vs religion in an ethnoreligous group. Athiestic or Buddhist Jews are common enough, and converts for marriage just clarify they're Jews religiously by lengthy conversion. I'm guessing not so common back then though 😂
@@mspaint93 That's the problem with the bluriness of 'Jewish'. If I add some context then travelinisrael is arguing that because Herod's father converted to the Jewish religion, his son Herod inherited the Jewish ethnicity. Which of course is absurd.
Herod the GREAT Greek by education Roman by politics Edomite by origin Arab via mother (Nabatean) The Jewish King, Jew by conversion of father & paternal grandfather
Since when are the Adamites Arabs? These Arabs every time cling to a race: sometimes they are Canaanites, sometimes they are Palestinians, another time they are the sons of Ishmael, and another time they are Yemenis?
philistine. not edomite.. edomite is syria... herod was from one of tthe groups who lived in philistine and fought frequently with Israel. Edom is Esau.. the brother of Yacov.
Herod wasn't an Arab God forbid. Arabs arrived, occupied that is, middle east including the land of Israel, in the 7th century. Before that they lived only in the Arabian peninsula. Stop claiming everything to be Arab. It's silly and ridiculous. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Unfortunately, this is not true. Herod is not Jewish, nor was he consider Jewish by many of the population. The dates you are using is only when it was codified into law. Matrilineal descent goes back all the way to the Torah. The Torah does not specifically state anywhere that matrilineal descent should be used; however, there are several passages in the Torah where it is understood that the child of a Jewish woman and a non-Jewish man is a Jew, and several other passages where it is understood that the child of a non-Jewish woman and a Jewish man is not a Jew. In Devarim 7:1-5, in expressing the prohibition against intermarriage, G-d says "he [i.e., the non-Jewish male spouse] will cause your child to turn away from Me and they will worship the gods of others." No such concern is expressed about the child of a non-Jewish female spouse. From this, we infer that the child of a non-Jewish male spouse is Jewish (and can therefore be turned away from Judaism), but the child of a non-Jewish female spouse is not Jewish (and therefore turning away is not an issue). Vayikra 24:10 speaks of the son of an Israelite woman and an Egyptian man as being "among the community of Israel" (i.e., a Jew). On the other hand, in Ezra 10:2-3, the Jews returning to Israel vowed to put aside their non-Jewish wives and the children born to those wives. They could not have put aside those children if those children were Jews.
I think it's the opposite, because women traditionally married into the male family, taking their last name. All women that married Jews were automatically converted or absorbed by that very act. In order to keep Jewish members in the diaspora community, the mother became identified with origins. Hence the change around the 4th c. noted by Oren. Which is depends on living in mixed society. Otherwise, women who join the tribe will always be members anyway, concubines and immigrants are considered part of the congregation over time. Jewish women have historically married into Gentile families a higher rank and better title. This way the descendants can be for the Jews instead of another people. And their mothers taught loyalty to Israel. That's why it's particularly mentioned in the old testament, any woman who joined different nations in marriage would likely be lost to her own people, including their descendants. This is probably what has happened more often than not over the many centuries. It's a custom or belief that requires some kind of practical context, when Jewish communities are fairly exclusive it's got to be moot. DNA tests suggests that many branches of the European Jewish communities were founded with Gentile mothers, who unquestionably married into the male line.
@@papi4253 It was NOT in the 4th Century. As the previous commentor stated, the book of Ezra recounting what happened 2,500 years ago contradicts you and Oren. Also, the infrence from the Torah.
Herod was Jewish it’s said many places he is Jewish the New Testament Paul even calls him a Jew it’s also said by historian flameouts Josephus who was a Jew moses children had with non Jewish women and his children where considers Jews
@@davidschalit907 so did Solomon ? So did Moses ? Your point have the also left your people ? Paul was still a Jew and knew the Jewish law he wouldn’t have said that if the Jews did not think Herod was a Jew
It should be law to have mandatory paternity testing at birth, or the earliest point at which paternity needs to be established. No more paternity fraud. Making it mandatory means that women don't need to take it personally. Plus mandatory maternity testing at birth in the case of IVF.
@@mizrodel ... Same ... If it's from the mother ... isn't it her tribe then, which is more important?!! But both parents holds the keys to that tribe. Normally they marry within their family group.
Many people were also called with Latin and Greek names because these 2 languages were much used to write ✍️ in the Mediterranean region. Josephus the Hebrew historian was not Josephus, but Joseph in Hebrew (I don’t know how to say Joseph in Hebrew but Josephus is the Latin version for sure).
Im a conservative jew but my grandfather used to go to an orthodox temple (had a falling out with my temple lol) but he had to leave the orthodox temple because they told him i wasnt considered a real jew which was disheartening
There is a theory that says that the matrilinear system really took root at the time of Herod, precisely because everyone hated him. This cannot be the only reason of course, but it's a plausible one.
I think how important the status of the mother is started very early in the Bibel. Abraham was the father from both, Isaak and Ismael. But they had different mothers and the blessing went only over Sarah. Also Isaak should take no one from the daughters of the country. The reason is written in the second book of Mose, chapter 34 from 11 to 16. There is another example in the book of Ezra in chapter 9. So I think the matriarchal line started much earlier.
Not sure if he means 400 or 4000 but I was thinking about that. I think he’s talking AD possibly. I don’t think he meant the fourth century as some of us in popular culture, or like speaking for myself in America - (many many many of my cousins moved to Israel, but I have never been yet sadly) would consider the fourth century. Hopefully that made sense.
Fact,, A woman over 90 years old who was barren all her life could not have given birth. The traditional practice then as it is now for a barren woman to have a child is for a pregnant mother to give birth into the lap of the adopting mother If all parties are agreed this ritual allows the adopting mother to claim birthing rites. So the whole story of Abraham Sarah and Isaac is a lie the religion like all religions is built on a myth
The Jewish lineage was not decided so much by Sarah being the mother but that God promised Abraham that he would have a son through his wife Sarah ( and she shall become nations kings of peoples shall come from her) When that promise was made they were childless and they continued childless until God renewed the promise in their old age, when Sarah was past child bearing. God said the child would be called Isaac and that he would establish with him an everlasting covenant for his offspting after him. The lineage was to continue through the fathers. The most significant factor in it all was that Isaac was the child of promise.
My guess would be because 1. Any woman made pregnant while held hostage will pass on being Jewish 2. Mother have the greatest influence on a child's raising. So, no matter war or strife the children will be raised Jewish. As for the Muslim system, we'll it requires a lot of control over a woman's behavior. Maybe Jewish men just trust their woman more
In Israel you have mixed couples where the father is Muslim, and the mother is Jewish, so the children are both Muslim and Jewish, and on the other hand you have families where the father is Jewish and the mother Muslim, so the children are neither Muslim nor Jewish.
these days we have paternity tests, in case there is any reason to doubt the paternity of the child. I see no reason to prioritize the mother over the father. We could have a system where both parents have to be Jewish, for the child to automatically inherit Jewish status; or we could have a system where just one parent has to be Jewish - but it the gender of the parent shouldn't matter. That's my personal opinion.
Ethnicity is the most artificial ground to establish one's Jewishness. This is because all humans share the same DNA with gene expression, mutations, miscegenation and adaptations creating different phenotypes (external features). The spiritual definition of a Jew, which is logical too, is a person who exclusively worships HaShem and loves HaShem with all his heart, might and soul and follows the mitzvot.
@@shanti89015 I'm fine with the spiritual definition in addition to the ancestral one, but spiritual factors appear to be secondary. Most importantly, the State of Israel grants citizenship to anyone who can reasonably show their maternal ancestry as Jewish and might not have uttered a single prayer in their life - my relatives are not religious at all yet they immigrated to Israel in the 1970s. But if someone says "I worship HaShem 3 times a day, keep Kashrut, etc" it's not going to mean anything unless the person converts via a recognized beit din (panel of rabbis). And even if he completely stops praying and following kashrut after the gyur, he can still make Alyah at any point in his lifetime. In any case, the vast majority of Jews make Alyah on the basis of their ancestry, not the diligence of their worship.
Native American tribes were also originally matrilineal, as all genetic relationships were calculated through the female lines. Children, in fact, were reared and protected by the mother's brothers.
u really forgot the fact that children made in mothers womb , receive nutrition from mother, and drinking milk from the mother, and living with the mother until the children can living their own life? smh
In ancient times, it was difficult to establish the father of a child but these days we have genetic testing to know who both parents are. Out goes the ancient custom.
Who do you think it is to blame for the deaths of the innocent women and children citizens of Nazi Germany, allied forces who bombed and killed them or the Nazis who started these whole craps?
@ansettwise0005 Dresden was seen as a terrible war crime and an atrocity, deliberately targetting civilians, burning them to death etc, even though it was against possibly the most evil empire the world has ever seen. An empire that covered most of Europe in the largest full scale war the world has ever seen. Tell me again how this is comparable to an impoverished tiny part of a small country that has been oppressed, bombed and occupied for decades and half of whose population are children?
@ansettwise0005 Dresden was seen as a terrible war crime and an atrocity, deliberately targetting civilians, burning them to death etc, even though it was against possibly the most evil empire the world has ever seen. An empire that covered most of Europe in the largest full scale war the world has ever seen. Tell me again how this is comparable to an impoverished tiny part of a small country that has been oppressed, bombed and occupied for decades and half of whose population are children?
@ansettwise0005 Dresden was seen as a terrible war crime and an atrocity, deliberately targetting civilians, burning them to death etc, even though it was against possibly the most evil empire the world has ever seen. An empire that covered most of Europe in the largest full scale war the world has ever seen. Tell me again how this is comparable to an impoverished tiny part of a small country that has been oppressed, bombed and occupied for decades and half of whose population are children?
@@ansettwise0005The majorities in 1920 who startted use violence against minoirites, because they are majorities and surrounded by majorities countries. Unfortuately God was not with the majorities, and they failed misserably and shamelessly never tired being a burden to the world for more than a century.
As far as I understand, the Jewish people procreate the very same way every other human ethnicity procreates. If your father is Jewish, but your mother isn't, you are still Jewish. I don't care what the Halacha says. I have a half brother who looks like he's 100% African. Our mother has light skin. She doesn't look African at all. But his father (my step dad) looks African. His dominant genes comes from his father. So for Jews to say that you cannot be a Jew if your father is a Jew, but your mother is not, is frankly the dumbest thing I ever heard on earth. If a person can be Jewish because the mother is Jewish, then like-wise the same is the truth with the father. If this was not true then my half-brother would not look African as his dad does. So I'm sorry. The Halacha is based on lies. Jews are human just like every other race on earth. They make children the same way as the Chinese, Africans and indians do. So if your parents are one thing, so is their children. It doesn't matter if it's just the father or mother who is Jewish, or African or Arab. The child is always going to be what their parents are. PERIOD. The Halacha goes against basic biology. With this being said, because of the Halacha, there are many Ethnic-Jews in the world who have been rejected by their own people, just because their father was Jewish, but not their mother. Which is absolutely asinine. I don't understand how mainstream Jewry came to accept the Halacha as a "sensible way" of declaring and identifying who a Jewish child is. What's even more CRAZIER to me, is that because of the Halacha, non-Jews who CONVERT into Judaism, get accepted as "Jews" into the Jewish community. But a Child who has a Jewish-father and a non-Jewish mother is considered a "non-Jew". Even though the Child is actually ethnically Jewish, and the convert IS NOT.
@@How_to_613 Halacha is based on both genetics and conversion, genius. It’s a law regarding both. Perhaps you should learn facts about the Halacha and not base your arguments on assumptions. 😏
@@davideskerlot2945 I am sorry to tell you, but you are wrong. Halacha is based on the 13 principles by which the Torah is studied. (Also known as the 13 rules of rabbi Yishmael) Your lack of understanding of Halacha and Judaism makes you think that you are knowledgeable enough to put forward an argument about it.
@@How_to_613 I’m sorry to tell you but YOU are wrong. Modern Judaism states that only through your biological mother can you be seen as a Jew. This goes for conversion or even being ethnically Jewish. How do I know? I’ve watched many videos of Jews stating this and many documentaries of Jews stating this. And these beliefs comes from the Halacha Law. Which I also learned from the Jews I have seen speaking in videos. The Halacha is the reason why Jews believe only through the mother is a child Jewish. Which according to biology and science, that is completely stupid. Because the father also offers his DNA to the child. Not just the mother. And according to the Torah, God made both Adam and Eve. And Eve was given to Adam. Not the other way around. Adam is the head, not the woman.
@@How_to_613 Exactly right. 13 rules made by a RABBI. Not the Torah or the Tenach. 13 rules that were made 2000-3000 years after the Torah was created. 13 rules that were made during the Disapora, and not ancient Judea or ancient Yisrael. 13 rules that were made by MAN and not from Hashem. Thank you for clearing that up. 😏😏😏😏😏
because of this particular blog, I'm buying your apps. Interesting blog, In the book of Matthew, Jesus was linked through paternal lineage from Joseph to King David, but Jesus doesn't have the blood of Joseph but the blood of Mary and God. I think it makes more sense to say Jesus is Jewish through the mother Mary. The root pointing to Mary's lineage and God.
Matrilineal is better than patrilineal because most children are raised by their mother. So that way the family home traditions get passed from generation to generation. *King Herod
A lot of confusion here ..... the Edomites were NOT Israelites ! Isaac son of Abraham had 2 son's Jacob and Esau. Jacobs name was changed to Israel and Esau's descendants were called Edomites. The tribe of Judah didn't even Exist at that time. Eventually all Israelites came to be called Jews because the northern Ten tribe part of Israel vanished. They were absorbed into Syria. All that was left were a group called the Samaritans who didn't accept the ruling authority in Jerusalem of Judea. No Herod was not a king in Judea. He had governorship over the Northern Roman district. The Hasmoneans had family members sitting in the Roman Senate. The Jewish leaders in Jerusalem didn't consider Herod as King of the Jews.
*_"Thou shalt not abhor an Edomite, for he is thy brother; Thou shalt not abhor an Egyptian, because thou wast a stranger in his land. 9)The children of the third generation that are born unto them may enter into the assembly of the Lord."_* Deuteronomy 23:8 King Herod's grandfather was absorbed into the Israelites after the 2nd century BCE as was his father. Herod's son Antipater was the third generation and after this the Edomites/Idumeans were fully accepted into Israel.
A simple DNA/paternity test can prove if your Jewish father is the one who begat you. Q: Is he your father? A: yes Q: Is he Jewish? A: yes Then, you ARE Jewish! Welcome to your Jewish family! Rabbis should embrace the times, and how medical science is not able to help people. Problem solved!
Not true “yichus “ comes from the written law, where the mother decides if the child is Jewish or not , while the father determines which tribe they come from
@ArabianQuirkSA You can't compare a religion with an ethnicity. They're two separate things. Jews, other than those from European stock, are very similar genetically to palestinians.
Did it? I seem to remember in the bible the genealogies always were from the father. Show where it was always by the mother. I would like to see. Don't go silent on me now.
Hi Friend! I watch so many of your videos and love Israel. I’m a Christian pilgrim from America and wanted to go to Israel in November but cancelled my trip. Do you think it is safe to visit in March?
@@jagordon34 Wasn't trying to make a point, just adding some detail. But I suppose if there is a point to be made it is that while Zionists make their claim for their right to Eretz Israel on ancestral grounds vs those of "Arab" culture, there are Jews with Arab, (which is near enough to what the Idumeans were) ancestry and there are "Arabs" with Jewish ancestry. Without taking sides I would advocate that both peoples should learn to live together in peace and prosperity, with equal rights and without discrimination.
I have a hypothesis that it became a tradition during the exile in Europe and Muslim lands. It creates a strong communal bond between men who’s daughters and sisters children are staying a part of the community no matter what, and the fathers are likely members as well. If a attack happened and women were assaulted, the child that was a product of that assault will be a member of the community even tho the father was an enemy.
And from a biological standpoint it makes much more sense to value the maternal lineage as it retains it's integrity much better than the paternal side, which is more prone to random variation.
I don't know which branch of Islam you're referring to, but unlike Judaism Islam isn't an ethno-religion, Muslims aren't an ethnic group the way Jews are. In Judaism you're Jewish if you mother is Jewish whether or not you believe in god, in Islam you have to believe in god to be Muslim, you have to say an oath to be Muslim, you can't be born Muslim
During times of war enemies always tragically targeted Jewish women and raped them in their beliefs of the fathers not knowing if the kid was from their Jewish offspring. Since men were out engaging in combat then the only one who would really know would be the mother. A similar with the same characteristics happened in Germany back in 2016.
I was told by an observant Jewish man many years ago that it was because from ancient times women had no choice as to whom they marry. Since men have a choice as to whether to take a Jewish wife/concubine or an unconverted outsider, they can choose to disqualify their family line, whereas traditionally the woman could not, and therefore is not held liable under Jewish Mitzvot. BTW, it is interesting to note that the Jewish leadership of Jesus’ day referred to Him as Rabbi. Some of them may not have liked His teachings or accepted His claim as Messiah, but they did accept His right to teach inside the Temple.
I always pointed that out. When a religion’s goal is to expand as much as possible, then the father is the better choice who can impregnate by whatever means as many women as he wishes and still nobody can ever 100% know who the father (without a DNA test that was invented recently).
Considering modern Jewry is Esau-Edom, Herod being called, a "Jew" would be true, but he was no Judahite nor Israelite. Not in spirit nor flesh. Check out the history of the Hasmonean Dynasty and forced conversions of Edomites in Judea. "brood of vipers," "that fox," "whited sepulchers," "synagogue of Satan," "liars," "serpents," "antichrist," etc.
As i recall, Herod was Idumean. If I am spelling that correctly. They were a people that we more related too Arabs, I believe then Jews. However, they converted either voluntarily or forced during the time of the Maccabean dynasty, I think. And Herod’s father was of some influential renown as in Jewish politics, if memory serves.
I mean, my mom wasn’t Jewish, my dad was and I was raised Jewish had a Bar Mitzvah and what not. I still consider myself Jewish. And from what I’ve looked up I still qualify under the law of return
The reason behind it is that Jewish women unfortunately were raped or were paired with non Jewish men, when a child was born from the situation, whether or not the father was Jewish, we'd know for sure the child was because the baby came from a Jewish mother. We may not know who the father was, however, we know the mother surely was.
So if in an unusual case where the father is Muslim and the mother is Jewish, the child would be born Jewish and Muslim. But in an even more unusual case, where the father is Jewish and the mother is Muslim, then, apparently, the child is neither Jewish nor Muslim. That would be really weird
My Rabbi says that it changed because we're 100 percent sure who your mom is but not your dad 😅
It was because of the Galuth and nobody talks much about it to not insult the neighbours and ruin the relationships with the surrounding nations. That's how some jews are blond and blue eyed and some are black skinned. Like the neighbours who probably r..ed some their ancestors because giyour was rare most of the past 2000 years.
Interesting but how does that place a Jewish woman’s integrity?
@@hypnotherapist4058 they are human, they are mostly righteous but there’s also rape and stuff especially in the diaspora
@@taltal6261 No on the contrary. In ashkenazi jews it is the paternal Y Dna that shows the most Levantine (middle east) ancestry. The maternal dna shows more southern European . The studies have been interpreted to show conversion on the maternal side. Conversion of locals in the early years of the diaspora is therefore plausible.
My father, a non Jew, reckoned this to be the reason. Without DNA testing, you can convince a man a child is his, but you will never convince a woman she's had a baby when she hasn't
A jewish friend of mine once told me that it became matrilineal cos the Jewish nation suffered anti-Semitic wars that sacrificed the males and often the men would be executed in a foreign land while women mostly would not be harmed so it made ‘sense’ for women to bear the continuity of the race and nation.
That’s more believable and consistent with historical events.
Wdym hired I have a very good black friend and no one has been racist to him just when we was kids in the joking zone
Did you know that bitterness towards others can cause you to have cardio-vascular disease and even cancer?@enzowithabenzo657
@enzowithabenzo657 I think the racist is always the one making the accusation
But whose surname does a jew take?That's more important..If a mother is jew and a father non-jew whose surname will the children go to?Let's hear some truths.A region in the north east has similar story but the children take the surname of the indigenous tribe..Kindly remember not the non-tribe I'm speaking of.😊
No intelligent person ever said “ Congratulations you’re having a baby! Who’s the mother?”
These days I hear males have wombs too, so who knows... ;)
Lmfaoooooooo. I mean if a dude you thought was single/sleeping around told you he's having a kid, maybe?
A surrogate mother seems to be quiet unknown to you ? Do you live on the moon ?
Strangely enough, we found my maternal grandmother’s birth certificate and it said “Mother unknown.” How bizarre!
@@1DaTJoPerhaps at the time of registration of the birth certificate they didn't know, she may have been abandoned or found.
"It's a wise man who knows his own father."
Shakespeare
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Ouch this is the first time i have seen him make a big mistake. He is getting confused between tribe identity and jewishness. Tribe identity was identified by the father, but whether they were jewish in the first place was ALWAYS determined by the mother. There are verses to demonstrate this, so it clearly wasnt a later invention. In fact the talmud relates that it is because of the jews at his time denying his legitimacy that he killed most of the sages, and later as a repentance he refurbished (in a big way) the temple complex.
I also thought the same thing he made a mistake over here
If being Jewish was always from the mother then King David was a Moabite.
This young fellow is such a wealth of information! Thank you!
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He is fantastic. I worry about him though because of all the bloodthirsty Muslims in Palestine and Lebanon. Not to mention the militant Iranians. Could you imagine living there? Good bless Israel. The only free state in that region. Everyone wants to kick them out of the house they built. Not today. Thank God there are Muslims in Egypt, Jordon, and Saudi Arabia who get along w Israel and hate the Palestinians for trying to kill Israelis.
yeah esp his point of being smarter knowing the rape culture within the idf.
Not to mention the quality
Ahhhmm..no...dooshbag
Another thing is that; the Tanach mentions that the Messiah will be from the descendant of King David, through Jesse, from the tribe of Judah. With no mention of his mum’s origin.
Interestingly from Chazal Sages Talmud Bavli "the Moschiach" comes from Lots illicit union with his daughter a "mamzar" if one research Torah Tanakh and Talmud in Yeshiva.
This shows all of us to be humble.
King Was mocked rejected since Ruth his great grandmother was a Ger convert as well.
This is why convert s are to be respected and not mocked .
תודה רבה שלום
He was born by a "virgin" yeah
The Messiah has already been born, His name is Jesus. King Herod wanted to stop this and ordered all children under the age of 2 to be murdered.
In the past adultery is forbidden that's why mother is not a question.
Jesus did Came from Jacob and King David
I have heard it explained that your name comes from your father and your spirit comes from your mother.
A mother carries her child for 9 month and the body and spirit of the child is formed within its mother.
Stupid
well i mean u are made in ur mothers womb and drinking her milk in order to build your brain lol
In my country your name comes from your father. Example, If your father is Italian your mother is African you're Italian by your father's blood.. But here(south Africa) we do it according to tribes.
Spirit comes from God,, not from mother or father,,, when death takes over the body will join earth and spirit will go back from where it came,, god
Herods Slaughtered 20.000 babies what a monster
He killed one of his wives, Mariamne, and three of his sons: Alexander, Aristobulus, and Antipater.
Think of the body count just within his own family: Four people. A wife and three sons!
What kind of monster does that to his own family members?
@user-hq8kg1qv3o, It's called "honor killing" in the Arab world today.
Seems very isreeli in actions
Wasn't he an Arab? Didn't he kill John the baptist for herodius , his brothers wife? Or maybe it's two different people.
He was also a narcissist
Because he's juish , that's what ju do for a living
The reason as u said is, u always know who the mother is
Like most Israeli laws/rules they made complete sense in an ancient context but in a modern context we can know with 100% certainty who the father is. so to me this rule is antiquated and should be changed. If you have Jewish blood, you are jewish. It doesn't matter if it's your mother or your father.
@@trollnerd yes you are actually right
@@trollnerdActually the father does not raise the child as the mother does.
Oren, the Orthodox Jewry got the answer long ago. The Jewish community learned it is the mother who contributes the mitochondria cells to the child during embryonic development, not the father so we changed it to the mother 🖖
Herods father was a convert to Judaism and it doesnt say whether his mother converted so I assume she did not. That being the case, Herod was not Jewish.
Exactly and it is insane to argue that accepting a religion changes one's ethnicity. Do I become Polish when I accept the catholic religion? NO! Herod's father was an Edomite and Herod was an Edomite.
@@vulc1I mean there's still room for ethnicity vs religion in an ethnoreligous group. Athiestic or Buddhist Jews are common enough, and converts for marriage just clarify they're Jews religiously by lengthy conversion. I'm guessing not so common back then though 😂
@@mspaint93 That's the problem with the bluriness of 'Jewish'. If I add some context then travelinisrael is arguing that because Herod's father converted to the Jewish religion, his son Herod inherited the Jewish ethnicity. Which of course is absurd.
Herod was an Arab who converted to Judaism
@@vulc1Herod was of Arab origin
I never understood why that was until just now but that makes perfect sense.
Herod the GREAT
Greek by education
Roman by politics
Edomite by origin
Arab via mother (Nabatean)
The Jewish King, Jew by conversion of father & paternal grandfather
Since when are the Adamites Arabs? These Arabs every time cling to a race: sometimes they are Canaanites, sometimes they are Palestinians, another time they are the sons of Ishmael, and another time they are Yemenis?
philistine. not edomite.. edomite is syria... herod was from one of tthe groups who lived in philistine and fought frequently with Israel. Edom is Esau.. the brother of Yacov.
😂😂😂😂😂 Edomites weren't Arabs.
Arabs occupied the land of Israel in the 7th century.
Hundreds of years after the time of Herod
Herod wasn't Nabataean and Nabataean aren't Arabs you 🤡🤡🤦🤦
Herod wasn't an Arab God forbid.
Arabs arrived, occupied that is, middle east including the land of Israel, in the 7th century. Before that they lived only in the Arabian peninsula.
Stop claiming everything to be Arab. It's silly and ridiculous.
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Unfortunately, this is not true. Herod is not Jewish, nor was he consider Jewish by many of the population. The dates you are using is only when it was codified into law. Matrilineal descent goes back all the way to the Torah.
The Torah does not specifically state anywhere that matrilineal descent should be used; however, there are several passages in the Torah where it is understood that the child of a Jewish woman and a non-Jewish man is a Jew, and several other passages where it is understood that the child of a non-Jewish woman and a Jewish man is not a Jew.
In Devarim 7:1-5, in expressing the prohibition against intermarriage, G-d says "he [i.e., the non-Jewish male spouse] will cause your child to turn away from Me and they will worship the gods of others." No such concern is expressed about the child of a non-Jewish female spouse. From this, we infer that the child of a non-Jewish male spouse is Jewish (and can therefore be turned away from Judaism), but the child of a non-Jewish female spouse is not Jewish (and therefore turning away is not an issue).
Vayikra 24:10 speaks of the son of an Israelite woman and an Egyptian man as being "among the community of Israel" (i.e., a Jew).
On the other hand, in Ezra 10:2-3, the Jews returning to Israel vowed to put aside their non-Jewish wives and the children born to those wives. They could not have put aside those children if those children were Jews.
I think it's the opposite, because women traditionally married into the male family, taking their last name. All women that married Jews were automatically converted or absorbed by that very act. In order to keep Jewish members in the diaspora community, the mother became identified with origins. Hence the change around the 4th c. noted by Oren. Which is depends on living in mixed society.
Otherwise, women who join the tribe will always be members anyway, concubines and immigrants are considered part of the congregation over time.
Jewish women have historically married into Gentile families a higher rank and better title. This way the descendants can be for the Jews instead of another people. And their mothers taught loyalty to Israel. That's why it's particularly mentioned in the old testament, any woman who joined different nations in marriage would likely be lost to her own people, including their descendants. This is probably what has happened more often than not over the many centuries.
It's a custom or belief that requires some kind of practical context, when Jewish communities are fairly exclusive it's got to be moot. DNA tests suggests that many branches of the European Jewish communities were founded with Gentile mothers, who unquestionably married into the male line.
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It was NOT in the 4th Century.
As the previous commentor stated, the book of Ezra recounting what happened 2,500 years ago contradicts you and Oren.
Also, the infrence from the Torah.
Herod was Jewish it’s said many places he is Jewish the New Testament Paul even calls him a Jew it’s also said by historian flameouts Josephus who was a Jew moses children had with non Jewish women and his children where considers Jews
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WTH cares about what Paul said!
He isn't one to determine Jewish law, when he left it!
Josephus married out and left our people.
@@davidschalit907 so did Solomon ? So did Moses ? Your point have the also left your people ?
Paul was still a Jew and knew the Jewish law he wouldn’t have said that if the Jews did not think Herod was a Jew
It should be law to have mandatory paternity testing at birth, or the earliest point at which paternity needs to be established. No more paternity fraud. Making it mandatory means that women don't need to take it personally.
Plus mandatory maternity testing at birth in the case of IVF.
And you think making a comment on YT is going to change that? Wake up, the politicians don't care, otherwise they would've done it already.
BUT NO MATTER WHAT!!! EVERY JEW STILL CARRIES HIS FATHER'S NAME!!! NOT HIS MOTHER'S NAME!!!
it is only to determinate which tribe he belongs to.
@@mizrodel ... Same ... If it's from the mother ... isn't it her tribe then, which is more important?!!
But both parents holds the keys to that tribe. Normally they marry within their family group.
That's not how that works traditionally. Usually it'd be Dudename, Son of Dadname or Ladyname, Daughter of Mothername.
@@zibbitybibbitybop ... That's when they don't know who the father is ...
You're not doing Israel any favours here.
Herodotus was an Arab converted to Judaism, by marriage.
Funny I thought he was a Greek historian,, assuming we are talking about the same person
Herod was an Arab, true
That doesn't explain how him & his whole family have Greek names. Do you know any Arabs in history with grecian originated names ?
Many people were also called with Latin and Greek names because these 2 languages were much used to write ✍️ in the Mediterranean region. Josephus the Hebrew historian was not Josephus, but Joseph in Hebrew (I don’t know how to say Joseph in Hebrew but Josephus is the Latin version for sure).
He is Edomite, not Arab
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Love learning about Israel
I am a Christian women and always praying for Israel and israelíes ❤
Please dont forget to pray for fellow Christians in Palestine
@@Vegan123 you are right our Christian brothers and sisters in Palestine 🇵🇸 wail be in my prayers
what is certain is that you are not Semitic but 100% Polish
Maybe because only languages can be semitic, not people.
Judaism have nothing to do with being Semitic or not.. by the way Semitic people are terrible..
It’s very clear that you are 100% Arab and belong to the Arabian desert
@@patricks4971 he is definitely polish by race too
That's the difference, the Jews don't always know the father while the Muslims always do
They think they do !
You’re right, I found out in my 20’s my mother cheated on my dad and I had another father.
Ok
exactly. you can be certain who your mother is,but sometimes DNA test might not agree with who you thought was your father.
Im a conservative jew but my grandfather used to go to an orthodox temple (had a falling out with my temple lol) but he had to leave the orthodox temple because they told him i wasnt considered a real jew which was disheartening
I had this issue as well, and ended up going through a conversion. It turned out to be a great experience though!
Thank you for the video.
I find your comments, very interesting. I really enjoy ❤
I have watched documentaries about Masada. It is a place with an extraordinary history that I would like to visit one day.
There is a theory that says that the matrilinear system really took root at the time of Herod, precisely because everyone hated him. This cannot be the only reason of course, but it's a plausible one.
It took root bc Jews copied the Romans, as Roman citizenship was through the mother. The kippa and modern tallit also copied Roman priests
@@condor237 Quite the opposite about the priests.
Interesting thought and it does make sense!!! 🤔👍
I think how important the status of the mother is started very early in the Bibel. Abraham was the father from both, Isaak and Ismael. But they had different mothers and the blessing went only over Sarah. Also Isaak should take no one from the daughters of the country. The reason is written in the second book of Mose, chapter 34 from 11 to 16.
There is another example in the book of Ezra in chapter 9. So I think the matriarchal line started much earlier.
Not sure if he means 400 or 4000 but I was thinking about that. I think he’s talking AD possibly. I don’t think he meant the fourth century as some of us in popular culture, or like speaking for myself in America - (many many many of my cousins moved to Israel, but I have never been yet sadly) would consider the fourth century. Hopefully that made sense.
Sorry, I just caught a couple of these shorts and I don’t know the young man’s name.
Fact,, A woman over 90 years old who was barren all her life could not have given birth. The traditional practice then as it is now for a barren woman to have a child is for a pregnant mother to give birth into the lap of the adopting mother
If all parties are agreed this ritual allows the adopting mother to claim birthing rites. So the whole story of Abraham Sarah and Isaac is a lie the religion like all religions is built on a myth
Oren
The Jewish lineage was not decided so much by Sarah being the mother but that God promised Abraham that he would have a son through his wife Sarah ( and she shall become nations kings of peoples shall come from her) When that promise was made they were childless and they continued childless until God renewed the promise in their old age, when Sarah was past child bearing.
God said the child would be called Isaac and that he would establish with him an everlasting covenant for his offspting after him. The lineage was to continue through the fathers. The most significant factor in it all was that Isaac was the child of promise.
My guess would be because
1. Any woman made pregnant while held hostage will pass on being Jewish
2. Mother have the greatest influence on a child's raising.
So, no matter war or strife the children will be raised Jewish.
As for the Muslim system, we'll it requires a lot of control over a woman's behavior.
Maybe Jewish men just trust their woman more
that’s insane, i never knew it used to be the other way around
In Israel you have mixed couples where the father is Muslim, and the mother is Jewish, so the children are both Muslim and Jewish, and on the other hand you have families where the father is Jewish and the mother Muslim, so the children are neither Muslim nor Jewish.
these days we have paternity tests, in case there is any reason to doubt the paternity of the child. I see no reason to prioritize the mother over the father. We could have a system where both parents have to be Jewish, for the child to automatically inherit Jewish status; or we could have a system where just one parent has to be Jewish - but it the gender of the parent shouldn't matter. That's my personal opinion.
Ethnicity is the most artificial ground to establish one's Jewishness. This is because all humans share the same DNA with gene expression, mutations, miscegenation and adaptations creating different phenotypes (external features). The spiritual definition of a Jew, which is logical too, is a person who exclusively worships HaShem and loves HaShem with all his heart, might and soul and follows the mitzvot.
@@shanti89015 I'm fine with the spiritual definition in addition to the ancestral one, but spiritual factors appear to be secondary.
Most importantly, the State of Israel grants citizenship to anyone who can reasonably show their maternal ancestry as Jewish and might not have uttered a single prayer in their life - my relatives are not religious at all yet they immigrated to Israel in the 1970s.
But if someone says "I worship HaShem 3 times a day, keep Kashrut, etc" it's not going to mean anything unless the person converts via a recognized beit din (panel of rabbis). And even if he completely stops praying and following kashrut after the gyur, he can still make Alyah at any point in his lifetime.
In any case, the vast majority of Jews make Alyah on the basis of their ancestry, not the diligence of their worship.
Herod was an Edomite, not a Jew 🕊💙
He was raised a jew.
Deuteronomy 23:8.
@@rachelsamuel3328❤#facts
Infact Herod was of Arab origin
@@ArabianQuirkSA Not all Arabs are Muslims.
Native American tribes were also originally matrilineal, as all genetic relationships were calculated through the female lines. Children, in fact, were reared and protected by the mother's brothers.
Yes but in cases of "divorce" the Children Always Went To The Father !
u really forgot the fact that children made in mothers womb , receive nutrition from mother, and drinking milk from the mother, and living with the mother until the children can living their own life? smh
Can you be 100% who the father is? 🤣
This is the truth..but an uncomfortable one 😁
In ancient times, it was difficult to establish the father of a child but these days we have genetic testing to know who both parents are. Out goes the ancient custom.
I mean isrealis for sure can't tell who is thier father 😂
Thank You for information about King Herod And I wish that the Holy land is more PEACEFUL 🕊️
This guy thinks the massacre of the innocents was self defense
Who do you think it is to blame for the deaths of the innocent women and children citizens of Nazi Germany, allied forces who bombed and killed them or the Nazis who started these whole craps?
@ansettwise0005 Dresden was seen as a terrible war crime and an atrocity, deliberately targetting civilians, burning them to death etc, even though it was against possibly the most evil empire the world has ever seen. An empire that covered most of Europe in the largest full scale war the world has ever seen. Tell me again how this is comparable to an impoverished tiny part of a small country that has been oppressed, bombed and occupied for decades and half of whose population are children?
@ansettwise0005 Dresden was seen as a terrible war crime and an atrocity, deliberately targetting civilians, burning them to death etc, even though it was against possibly the most evil empire the world has ever seen. An empire that covered most of Europe in the largest full scale war the world has ever seen. Tell me again how this is comparable to an impoverished tiny part of a small country that has been oppressed, bombed and occupied for decades and half of whose population are children?
@ansettwise0005 Dresden was seen as a terrible war crime and an atrocity, deliberately targetting civilians, burning them to death etc, even though it was against possibly the most evil empire the world has ever seen. An empire that covered most of Europe in the largest full scale war the world has ever seen. Tell me again how this is comparable to an impoverished tiny part of a small country that has been oppressed, bombed and occupied for decades and half of whose population are children?
@@ansettwise0005The majorities in 1920 who startted use violence against minoirites, because they are majorities and surrounded by majorities countries. Unfortuately God was not with the majorities, and they failed misserably and shamelessly never tired being a burden to the world for more than a century.
As far as I understand, the Jewish people procreate the very same way every other human ethnicity procreates.
If your father is Jewish, but your mother isn't, you are still Jewish. I don't care what the Halacha says.
I have a half brother who looks like he's 100% African. Our mother has light skin. She doesn't look African at all. But his father (my step dad) looks African. His dominant genes comes from his father.
So for Jews to say that you cannot be a Jew if your father is a Jew, but your mother is not, is frankly the dumbest thing I ever heard on earth.
If a person can be Jewish because the mother is Jewish, then like-wise the same is the truth with the father. If this was not true then my half-brother would not look African as his dad does.
So I'm sorry. The Halacha is based on lies. Jews are human just like every other race on earth. They make children the same way as the Chinese, Africans and indians do. So if your parents are one thing, so is their children. It doesn't matter if it's just the father or mother who is Jewish, or African or Arab. The child is always going to be what their parents are. PERIOD.
The Halacha goes against basic biology.
With this being said, because of the Halacha, there are many Ethnic-Jews in the world who have been rejected by their own people, just because their father was Jewish, but not their mother. Which is absolutely asinine.
I don't understand how mainstream Jewry came to accept the Halacha as a "sensible way" of declaring and identifying who a Jewish child is.
What's even more CRAZIER to me, is that because of the Halacha, non-Jews who CONVERT into Judaism, get accepted as "Jews" into the Jewish community. But a Child who has a Jewish-father and a non-Jewish mother is considered a "non-Jew". Even though the Child is actually ethnically Jewish, and the convert IS NOT.
Your whole rant is based on the assumption that the halacha is based on genetics, which is a dumb thing to conclude.
@@How_to_613 Halacha is based on both genetics and conversion, genius. It’s a law regarding both. Perhaps you should learn facts about the Halacha and not base your arguments on assumptions. 😏
@@davideskerlot2945 I am sorry to tell you, but you are wrong.
Halacha is based on the 13 principles by which the Torah is studied. (Also known as the 13 rules of rabbi Yishmael)
Your lack of understanding of Halacha and Judaism makes you think that you are knowledgeable enough to put forward an argument about it.
@@How_to_613 I’m sorry to tell you but YOU are wrong. Modern Judaism states that only through your biological mother can you be seen as a Jew. This goes for conversion or even being ethnically Jewish. How do I know? I’ve watched many videos of Jews stating this and many documentaries of Jews stating this. And these beliefs comes from the Halacha Law. Which I also learned from the Jews I have seen speaking in videos.
The Halacha is the reason why Jews believe only through the mother is a child Jewish. Which according to biology and science, that is completely stupid. Because the father also offers his DNA to the child. Not just the mother. And according to the Torah, God made both Adam and Eve. And Eve was given to Adam. Not the other way around. Adam is the head, not the woman.
@@How_to_613 Exactly right. 13 rules made by a RABBI. Not the Torah or the Tenach. 13 rules that were made 2000-3000 years after the Torah was created. 13 rules that were made during the Disapora, and not ancient Judea or ancient Yisrael. 13 rules that were made by MAN and not from Hashem. Thank you for clearing that up. 😏😏😏😏😏
Unless you stay married the father isn’t always in the picture and leaves as soon as his girlfriend tells him she’s pregnant
Prophet Muhammad was born 4 years after his father’s death
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you are basing your information from weak report which all scholars reject . another islamophobe online
because of this particular blog, I'm buying your apps. Interesting blog, In the book of Matthew, Jesus was linked through paternal lineage from Joseph to King David, but Jesus doesn't have the blood of Joseph but the blood of Mary and God. I think it makes more sense to say Jesus is Jewish through the mother Mary. The root pointing to Mary's lineage and God.
Out with your devil worship.
Idolatry
Are you saying God had a sexual relationship with Mary 😱 geeezas chrriiist,, Was he slappin it on the side?
Matrilineal is better than patrilineal because most children are raised by their mother. So that way the family home traditions get passed from generation to generation.
*King Herod
That rule also completely prevents good Jewish boys from marrying outside the faith.
I love how you're so educated in history.
A lot of confusion here ..... the Edomites were NOT Israelites ! Isaac son of Abraham had 2 son's Jacob and Esau.
Jacobs name was changed to Israel and Esau's descendants were called Edomites. The tribe of Judah didn't even Exist at that time. Eventually all Israelites came to be called Jews because the northern Ten tribe part of Israel vanished. They were absorbed into Syria. All that was left were a group called the Samaritans who didn't accept the ruling authority in Jerusalem of Judea.
No Herod was not a king in Judea. He had governorship over the Northern Roman district. The Hasmoneans had family members sitting in the Roman Senate. The Jewish leaders in Jerusalem didn't consider Herod as King of the Jews.
Very nice salad of facts you made there
*_"Thou shalt not abhor an Edomite, for he is thy brother; Thou shalt not abhor an Egyptian, because thou wast a stranger in his land. 9)The children of the third generation that are born unto them may enter into the assembly of the Lord."_*
Deuteronomy 23:8
King Herod's grandfather was absorbed into the Israelites after the 2nd century BCE as was his father. Herod's son Antipater was the third generation and after this the Edomites/Idumeans were fully accepted into Israel.
@@rachelsamuel3328 So what? Israel was a multi-ethnic kingdom. Edomites being one of the ethnic groups in Israel. Israelites does not equal Jews.
A simple DNA/paternity test can prove if your Jewish father is the one who begat you.
Q: Is he your father? A: yes
Q: Is he Jewish? A: yes
Then, you ARE Jewish!
Welcome to your Jewish family!
Rabbis should embrace the times, and how medical science is not able to help people.
Problem solved!
A woman could have many lovers, who dissapear.....who is the father? Brilliant law!
Not true “yichus “ comes from the written law, where the mother decides if the child is Jewish or not , while the father determines which tribe they come from
Herods father was a converted Jew. He was an Arab by birth.
True, he was of Arab ethnicity
Jewish, not Muslim.
@@markcynic808 what is the Relevance? No one said he was a Muslim, we said he was an Arab by birth which is true
@@markcynic808 no one said that he was a Muslim. He was an Arab by birth
@ArabianQuirkSA
You can't compare a religion with an ethnicity. They're two separate things. Jews, other than those from European stock, are very similar genetically to palestinians.
This is false!!!!!!!!! It has always gone by the mother from the beginning! It never changed!!!!!
Did it? I seem to remember in the bible the genealogies always were from the father. Show where it was always by the mother. I would like to see. Don't go silent on me now.
@@RisingEdge111 incorrect. To be a Jew your mother has to be a Jew. However, all customs etc go through the father’s side. Thats it
@@rafiissler9324 oh okay 👍
With DNA testing we can now confirm who our biological fathers are. Sorry for all the people who were lied to about that.
In the end science will save us all😊
Jewish people are smart that is the reason why a lot of people are envious
Dude , hesitated on the father mother connection .father is the progenitor
Hi Friend! I watch so many of your videos and love Israel. I’m a Christian pilgrim from America and wanted to go to Israel in November but cancelled my trip. Do you think it is safe to visit in March?
Nobady knows what will be anywhere these days....
😂 I love your iyalabai. May Hashem bless you bro
Perhaps its about inheritance laws in Rome.
All men when their child is born, ask themselves "am I the real father of this child?". This is a natural insecurity of men.
Herod was of Idumean ancestry, a people who converted to Judaism during the Maccabean era.
And your point is what? A person converting to Judaism is Jewish. Even assuming that you're correct, wouldn't Herod have been Jewish?
@@jagordon34 Wasn't trying to make a point, just adding some detail. But I suppose if there is a point to be made it is that while Zionists make their claim for their right to Eretz Israel on ancestral grounds vs those of "Arab" culture, there are Jews with Arab, (which is near enough to what the Idumeans were) ancestry and there are "Arabs" with Jewish ancestry. Without taking sides I would advocate that both peoples should learn to live together in peace and prosperity, with equal rights and without discrimination.
„The father is the most doubtful relative.“
The rabbis who condemned Jesus count NOT sat he wasn't a Jew.
That is why the change.
I have a hypothesis that it became a tradition during the exile in Europe and Muslim lands. It creates a strong communal bond between men who’s daughters and sisters children are staying a part of the community no matter what, and the fathers are likely members as well. If a attack happened and women were assaulted, the child that was a product of that assault will be a member of the community even tho the father was an enemy.
And from a biological standpoint it makes much more sense to value the maternal lineage as it retains it's integrity much better than the paternal side, which is more prone to random variation.
Love your videos ! And the last line fathers Not 100% sure😂
Wives in the old days don't commit adultery, so the father of her children will always be her husband
Thank you Oren. Women in all times suffer predation during conflict. Of course only a woman will know where her child came from. It makes total sense.
Thank you Oren !😊😊😊
I don't know which branch of Islam you're referring to, but unlike Judaism Islam isn't an ethno-religion, Muslims aren't an ethnic group the way Jews are. In Judaism you're Jewish if you mother is Jewish whether or not you believe in god, in Islam you have to believe in god to be Muslim, you have to say an oath to be Muslim, you can't be born Muslim
It should be based on the mother. She's the one who carried you and gave you life.
During times of war enemies always tragically targeted Jewish women and raped them in their beliefs of the fathers not knowing if the kid was from their Jewish offspring. Since men were out engaging in combat then the only one who would really know would be the mother. A similar with the same characteristics happened in Germany back in 2016.
Progressive Jews don't discriminate. You're Jewish if either parent is Jewish.
Yes, Oren. I believe it to be true. A mother is absolutely the one!😊😊😊
My fellow clearly looks European
- "Says King Herold was Jewish because his father was"
- "criticises Muslims for using same system as they did before changing it in 4th century"
Nice
I was told by an observant Jewish man many years ago that it was because from ancient times women had no choice as to whom they marry. Since men have a choice as to whether to take a Jewish wife/concubine or an unconverted outsider, they can choose to disqualify their family line, whereas traditionally the woman could not, and therefore is not held liable under Jewish Mitzvot. BTW, it is interesting to note that the Jewish leadership of Jesus’ day referred to Him as Rabbi. Some of them may not have liked His teachings or accepted His claim as Messiah, but they did accept His right to teach inside the Temple.
I know the reason. Under Roman occupation, rape was common place , It became difficult to be entirely sure if the father's identity.
Biology and pragmatism seem to be a common theme in Judaism.
During the wars, when Jewish women were raped that child wasn't count as a Jewish. so that why is was changed. That is what I was told.
While he was indeed Jewish he was not a member of the ruling Hazmonean Dynasty. He married into the Dynasty with the idea of becoming King.
as i was told, too many children were born from Roman fathers, Jewish population was declining. It was a smart decision.
Id say its because mother's are the ones who raise us so we learn more from our mother
If your nation , respected God`s command , and not committing adultery, then no need to change.
The history of The Holy Land is fascinating, thousands of years
I always pointed that out. When a religion’s goal is to expand as much as possible, then the father is the better choice who can impregnate by whatever means as many women as he wishes and still nobody can ever 100% know who the father (without a DNA test that was invented recently).
I was unaware that.... thanks for letting me informed ❤
Is he saying all jewish mothers sleep around?.....i think he is
Considering modern Jewry is Esau-Edom, Herod being called, a "Jew" would be true, but he was no Judahite nor Israelite. Not in spirit nor flesh.
Check out the history of the Hasmonean Dynasty and forced conversions of Edomites in Judea.
"brood of vipers," "that fox," "whited sepulchers," "synagogue of Satan," "liars," "serpents," "antichrist," etc.
It's strange. A Jew is Jewish if his mother is Jewish, but takes his father's name.
If you’re not 100% sure who your father is 😂
As i recall, Herod was Idumean. If I am spelling that correctly. They were a people that we more related too Arabs, I believe then Jews. However, they converted either voluntarily or forced during the time of the Maccabean dynasty, I think. And Herod’s father was of some influential renown as in Jewish politics, if memory serves.
Today you can be sure who the father is. It still makes sense, arguably, because in a divorce children generally stay with the mother.
My cousin considers herself Jewish.
Because it is her religion.
Her mother and father were Roman catholic.
Sadly, the Nazi’s had a more inclusive criteria of what constituted a Jew. Sadly.
It’s a wise man that knows his own father 🎉🤦🏴😇
He was an Arab.
I mean, my mom wasn’t Jewish, my dad was and I was raised Jewish had a Bar Mitzvah and what not. I still consider myself Jewish. And from what I’ve looked up I still qualify under the law of return
My farther was a secular Jew no one would see me as Jewish culturally religious or even phenotype people think I am pulling their leg sometimes
The reason behind it is that Jewish women unfortunately were raped or were paired with non Jewish men, when a child was born from the situation, whether or not the father was Jewish, we'd know for sure the child was because the baby came from a Jewish mother. We may not know who the father was, however, we know the mother surely was.
Isaac's Oldest Son is described in the books of Genesis and Obadiah just like the Native Americans describe the Sasquatch People.
wow, i didnt realize the change happened so recently
Remember Abraham, 2 women tried to give the promised child to Abraham. Now ask that question again ;)! Well done!!!!
So if in an unusual case where the father is Muslim and the mother is Jewish, the child would be born Jewish and Muslim. But in an even more unusual case, where the father is Jewish and the mother is Muslim, then, apparently, the child is neither Jewish nor Muslim. That would be really weird