Aiming Is For Losers
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- čas přidán 3. 07. 2022
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I felt like having a bit of fun for this video, so I decided to play a couple of tanks that don't require a ton of aiming to do well in. The Centurion AVRE and FV4005 have the largest caliber guns in the War Thunder, and fire huge high explosive squash head (HESH) rounds. This means that you don't really have to aim all that much. I do wish that the HESH rounds were a bit more consistent, but that has more to do with volumetric than anything else. Hopefully Gaijin fixes that soon.
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Now take it to Arcade and you don't even have to aim while bonking tanks over hills with the aim marker! :)
I hate Hesh since I’m not using it
U know there is one russian guy, who used AVRE in squad as correcrted artillery via helicopter in TRB. Actually, it's at least slightly efficient
and try to move avay 50 meters from spawn witout getting killed by planes
Odd, what are you doing here ? Shoo, shoo back to your own channel XD
"Aiming is for losers, thus we shall design a vehicle the enemy simply can't miss."
- The British making the FV4005, probably
The German making the sturmtiger : you guys need to hit the tank ?
Jokes aside, just imagine for a second that it's NOT an assault gun(which it isn't), but instead SPG like Paladin or MSTA. Are those smaller and better armored?
No, it's not solely a tank destroyer either. That role was supposed to be filled by several vehicles from other niches capable of filling this role. For example Conqueror was heavy tank designed to counter soviet armor. Was it a tank hunter?
@@TheArklyte It was a test bed for the gun.
Wasn't supposed to actually be used in combat.
It's on the exit road of the Bovington Tank Museum and it's on an incorrect hull if I recall correctly so don't take my word for that.
Yeah my dude, we literally would shoot IS-3s from 2000 metres away with this thing. In theory anyway
The “probably” gives me Squire vibes
"Don't really want to aim"
Proceeds to play the AVRE which requires a masters degree in applied physics to aim
I actually caught on to aiming with it pretty quickly to the point I've just looked at people and go "that's about 600" then nail them
@@jasoncrawford4929 now play a different vehicle for a month
@@shukes4645 some things kinda come back naturally but the low velocity doesnt exactly lol. I can return to the tiger 2 and snipe at 1.2km but coming back to the AVRE or recoilless rifle can be tough. O have 3k hours in so I've got most of it I think
The FV4005 might not be particularly hard to hit with, but considering the "12 round" capacity and "entirety of the round" reload speed, I feel like taking some time to ensure you don't miss is pretty important
that's ranging
5:50 That M-51 looked rightfully surprised that a AVRE busted through a building like the fucking Kool-Aid man 💀
Poor lad realized he was facing an abomination covered in ERA (M-51 only has HEAT) right before his demise.
Spookston: Aiming is for losers
Also Spookston: doing math equations to aim carefully to shot over the hills
True hardcore player
Lol 😂
Everytime I see that damned fv4005 turret facing me i know my tank is soon to be a big metal coffin
Not if you are in a maus
@@nighthawk6755 Also if you are in a maus.
the worst thing is getting the first shot off, but you didn't get the gun(ner)
@@Kosmo2 i survived 5 shots of a avre and fv005 before they just need to aim with it
I'm guessing the kv2 gives the same vibes as well?
"Spookston, try to remember some of the basics of CQC"
- The Boss (propably)
It was Revolver "funny name" Ocelot though, right?
@@meerbee2910 in the phantom pain ocelot says it but in snake eater Boss says
@@AnimeTiddiesEnjoyer oh, ok, never played snake eater
Gunner: “Nigel where should I aim”
Nigel: “over there” (pointing in a vague directing) “you’re bound to hit something”
“Where should I aim?”
“AVRE there.”
When Britian decided to add the mechanic of hip-firing to tank combat
Spookston sounded way more depressed in his old videos
Because of
Cas
The AVRE is the single best premium I have bought in the game regardless of tier. The amount of fun I have had in it warms my soul. It is also great for grinding out the British tech tree up until its rank. Advice: It is a close-range brawler, if you get the first shot off you will win the fight. Try to engage in 1v1 fights only, and hide when you need to reload.
any tank with atleats 20 second reload is a cqc brawler
i speak from experience
@@VivyX2 that's so true but it's just really weird thet it works out that way
I dont have the AVRE but the fv4005 is Nice. I need to revisit it and stop suffering in toptier
Its basically the is2 tactics shoot and scoop
What do you mean close range? The AVRE is one of the best long range platforms in the game. Just aim three miles above whatever you’re firing at
vehicles like these make me wish total vehicle destruction was possible. Like there is no way a AML-90 would still be in one piece after taking a 183mm HESH round
Despite being developed to counter IS-2, 3, etc. HESH ironically seems like an ideal shell for D-25 itself ie for armament of IS-2/3.
That would be so much fun lol.
Ah the joy of firing the FV4005 and watch the tracks on the enemy vehicle die, and no other damage done.
Truly the most realistic of games.
Tbh, most times that happens to me, both tracks get blown off and the barrel also gets destroyed so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Truly the most of games
It really is the game of all time
thats side skirts for you my guy
@@c1arietepso432 The shells of the FV4005 are literally the size of 50kg bombs. I don't think sideskirts should be able to block that high of an amount of explosive.
So does the dozer blade actually help you destroy buildings better or can any heavy vehicle do it?
not really, i did the same building with a t92 in the same time.
The dozer blades in this game are mostly for aesthestics. All you have to do is either ram the building head on or press A or D to turn into it (basically just position yourself parallel to a house and turn your front into the wall. Chances are it'll do some funky shit and its gonna crumbled apart)
@@Foxinghton well in the case of the avre, the dozer blades is great armour too
you can also entrench with the dozer blade
I can do it better
I love going on 7 kill rampages in the 4005, exclusively against Tiger IIs.
If I had a nickel for every time it happened, I’d have 2 nickels.
Which still isn't much, but it's strange that it happened twice
-Dr Doof
Getting 5 kills on that thing is literally considered to be an insane challenge and u get 7? *Bruh*
@@SovietUnion_ I once brought it to 11.0 and managed to get either 3 or 4 kills on T-80 BVMs untill a BMP-2 deleted me...
I find it kinda weird that all those kills were on the BVM...
@@ThePolish2107 damn bruh overpressure was on your side that day if u passed relict like that
@@SovietUnion_ My first ever match with it I got 6 kills, it was very fun.
I think the most amount of fun you can have in War Thunder is with artillery cannons and engineering vehicles.
we need more of those Gaijin.
churchille avre when
I love the bkan, because while its overkill its the big funny
@@Manchweldwhen you hit a tiger 2 in the front and it thinks that you have like 30 seconds reload, and you smack their cupola 4 seconds after is a glorious feeling
@@SirPoppy dont even need to hit their cupola, the bottom of the mantlet on the H and the entire lower half of the turret on the P works just fine
A rare treat to see Spookston play the Brits, even if it's only the meme vehicles! AVRE is definitely worth it when on sale. Btw the Tortoise could be a good idea for a video (6.7 Britain same as the FV4005) it's one of my favs and basically a meme with its great armour and decent gun, plus it just looks hilarious trundling across the battlefield.
6.7 Britain is so meme-y lol. I don't play it super often, as I'm trying to finish grinding out the monster of tanks at 8.0 and 8.3, but having the doom barn, armor wall, and Battlebus with an ATGM is pretty fun
@@flamepanzer1767 If you stretch to 7.0 you can have Tortos, FV4005, AVRE and Eland 90 as a little scout car with HEAT
"half a minute reload is not great"
say that to the kv-2 with all the rapid fire guns down there
at least the KV2 has armour lol, the FV is effectively just wrapped in tinfoil.
German 150mm tank destroyers have half the reload of kv2
How do you feel about the Churchill AVRE and the StuG IV being in the game? A StuG with a pigsnout mantel and 360 degree roof mounted mg would be awesome and another low tier besh launcher aswell
@@redwarrior69340 the 100mm t44 is tech tree tho and I've killed a fair few AVRE
@@redwarrior69340 Skill issue~~
@@redwarrior69340 someone didn't read the comment properly lol. The StuG IV isn't ingame, and neither is the Churchill AVRE
I woudk rather have the stug iii g late production than the stug iv. It has the pigsnout mattlet and remote machinegun. But it also has a co-axe mg and was built in larger numbers.
@@matthiuskoenig3378 I personally would like both maybe folder the StuG IV. Rarity of a vehicle should not determine its presence in war thunder as there's plenty of unique one offs and rare tanks, Sturer Emil, the Super Pershing, half the American heavy line, Jagdtiger, and Jagdpanther just to name a few.
I take it Spookston that you aren't in the habit of doing the Kool-Aid Man through walls and buildings.
That is one of the best things about driving tanks. I would like it if Gaijin got around to making all buildings, on every map, destructible.
*runs in to skyscraper*
Levelution!
I wish the sight you have for the AVRE was the standard sight the AVRE gets because the AVRE distance markings are unusable.
yeah, console is stuck with that kinda stuff. It’s pain trying to use any hesh lobbed with stock sights
@@blu5021 I recommend using the rangefinder and distance control things, I set the distance control up exclusively for a better time with the AVRE and it helps sooooo much
If you don't want to aim, I recommend playing the FV4004 *Conway* which is very much a railgun at it's BR. You can also use it in the same lineup as the FV4005 and the AVRE, so that's a plus.
And while the APDS might be offputting, the sheer size and velocity of the round combined with a surprisingly survivable front-mounted turret means you more than not get one-shots off quite easily.
Yeah lol the 120mm is crazy good, it's so nice having a 7.7 and a better 8.3-9.0 gun at 7.0
Conway is definitely underrated. The gun has crazy pen and the front of the turret has troll-y armour which people usually don't know how to penetrate.
@@chanchito4401 Most assume the turret armour is as thin as that of the FV4005 and go close to the breech, but that armour is more than 140/270mm thick, and is enough for you to usually get a shot off before the enemy can adjust.
The fact that the turret can spin a full +/-180 is also great because it makes the Conway more flexible compared to its later brother.
"I don't feel like aiming today"
*Proceeds to become a fire director for indirect shells*
I once had a shell from the FV4005 pass through the engine of an enemy tank and exit the other side. It exploded on the wall right next to the tank and dealt no damage.
Needless to say I don't play this game anymore.
...how? HOW?
when hesh doesnt want to hesh
Spook: I don't want to aim.
Also Spook: *Proceeds to perform out-of-sight aimed shots.*
The entirety of my time in War Thunder, after having picked the UK tree on a whim, was spent in pursuit of the FV4005, which among my friend group had been dubbed the "Long Boi".
Once I unlocked it I put the game down and haven't touched it since.
That last sentence is basically war thunder grinding though
@@Erenzilable it is, yeah. It's a shame, I think WT is so close to being a fantastic game in so many ways, but the awful progression ruins it. I always recommend people play a tree until the grind starts to make it unfun, then switch to a new tree.
Early tiers are honestly the most fun a lot of the time anyway. Here's some advice: if you haven't, try playing with the Crusader III. Absolutely the most fun I've had in this game- fast as hell, maneuverable enough to drift like a rally car, and it gets FIFTY smoke grenades for some reason.
The only bad thing about these vehicles: it has made people think that HESH shells are valid anti-tank rounds even for modern use, when they are absolutely NOT. It's like really really shitty HEAT as computer models repeatedly show, and it's just barely more effective than plain HE shells. These HESH shells don't work because they're HESH, they work because it's a bomb the size of a small child. APFSDS and modern HEAT are immensely better in every way, just keep that in mind about reality.
Um no, the brits do not think hesh is valid anti-tank for modern use. They use it for anti-structure work, and light vehicles. And they haven't considered hesh an effective anti-tank round since atleast the fmbt project (which the British half chose the rifled gun because of apds being more reliable and accurate at the time than apfsds) hesh slinging was just a useful side effect.
Ofcaurse fmbt failed, and new generation apfsds was proven better than new generation apds. the British still ended up with rifled guns because it was cheaper to just get apfsds ammunition. For the l11 than get a new gun And ammo. Hesh was just a useful side affect once again (for structures).
The challenger 2 got a l30 rifles gun because of plans for keeping upgraded challaneger 1s and chieftains in service with the l30 due to cold War needs. And these tanks needed multiparty ammunition and multi-part rifled guns ahd already been half developed earlier for another project. When the cold War ended and this plan was obsolete they had already spent the money/etc. Hesh was just a happy side effect.
The Americans still love useing hep/hesh on their 105mm guns. Like in the stryker and probably in their new mpf.
HESH is not trying to be an anti tank round, it may have been part of the original plan but times change, the strengths of HESH show when its used against buildings, light/logistics vehicles, personel or IFV/APCs. It is basically a superior HE round for most purposes and is used as such in modern combat. For example if you had a 120mm L44 cannon firing APFSDS at a BMP 2 you have a somewhat unlikely chance (within context) of hitting something important inside due to the lack of armour to create spalling, the penetrator being completely inert plus it being a sub-calibre round. Whereas if you shot a 120mm HE or HESH round from the same gun, at the same BMP 2 you are almost certainly going to either make the vehicle completely combat ineffective or at the very least cause significant structural damage, more than an APFSDS or HEAT round (against that specific type of threat). One thing I will say is that I completely agree that HESH has minimal effect against modern tanks, at least frontally and 99% of the time it would be better to use APFSDS or HEAT although HESH would still happily destroy optics and damage engines/tracks or anything else external
Well I mean, the 4005 still smacks top tier tanks
YES my friend and I do the HESH lineup from time to time for fun as well, the Conway is also really good for this lineup though it requires a little more finesse
Hip fire going crazy
The 4005 is fun if you just want to sit back and chuckle like an idiot. The giggle factor is insane.
5:10 That AML-90 was hit so hard it never existed in the first place
5:05 "Boss you killed a child.... Amazing mission complete that right there is why you're the best boss, the one and only!"
i love derp guns and using british 7.0 is a treat since my 3out of 6 nukes were with avre
fun fact my first nuke ever was just second game with AVRE
I just found your channel and im really liking it. Its very realistic as in you sound like you are in a constant state of depression which is very real for Warthunder.
It is MANDATORY to put a scary/derpy face on the kv2 or fv4005
Imagine hiding behind a building and suddenly an AVRE just muscles its way through your cover and erases you form the mortal plane of existence
Love the new style of content so much
5:52 I could heard the faintest Lego Yoda death sound.
i like these gameplay style videos, they are rlly fun to watch ;)
imagine having the FV4005 stage 1 in war thunder
That would be awesome, but sadly snail would put it in some stupid hard event
That was fun to watch 🙌🏻 thanks for sharing
5:06 boss you killed a child...amazing mission complete! that right there is why you're the best, boss!
5:05 that was straight cyberbulying against that AML.
Its kind of refreshing to see someone have actual fun (albeit temporarily) while not being paid off to pretend
I think the AVRE is the best premium in the game in terms of fun factor. It's also surprisingly tough
I just got the AVRE, Rhino, and working on this. So happy to see this
you should try the ikv91 and the 105 variant, they are a lot of fun and I think they would be a perfect hit for your crippling light tank addiction.
This.
So I commented basically this same thing on the last video too, but if you enjoyed these things, you’ll probably enjoy the Lorraine 155. It’s gotten really quite fun with the addition of overpressure.
The 20mm on top can be used as a sort of ranging gun if you have a binding set up for controlling individual machine guns, though it’s a bit of a lengthy process; you swap to MG control, range dial and fire the 20 until your shots are on target, note the range that it’s set to, then switch back to the howitzer and set its range to whatever the 20 was at.
I've always wanted to do some math-ery to be able to AVRE shell from spawn to spawn
"Earthshaker round loaded"
Astonished that we still don't have the Churchill AVRE
My favorite decal to put on the FV4005 is “big shot from hell” from on the side of the turret.
Watching you bust down a wall of buildings and absolutely dust a man was genuinely entertaining as hell
4:30 Those giant hit marks they added are extremely satisfying for vehicles like this.
Absolutely beautiful video spookston!
Man it's Truly impressive that you mastered Guns with Such Low velocity 😃
15CM german tank destroyers would like to have a word
@@meerbee2910 I agree I am master of that tonk
Tbh the FV4005 has decent velocity.
Also the AVRE has either the second or third slowest shell velocity, I'm pretty sure the Brumbar's rounds are slower than it's at the very least.
@@Geniusinventor but are you ready for the Sturmtiger? (If the snail plan on bringing it to the pain thunder)
@@haatonofthebasementoutofth276 I am ready to kill a Bt-7 and wait 5 minutes to gun to reload
Nice video, you should make more HESH only videos with the challenger or the centurion mk10.
Meanwhile over at World of Tanks:
"This baby is the FV 215b (183)"
Spook busts through the building and spots the enemy Sherman
“Greeting sir, I’m here to talk to you about our Lord and saviour, HESH”
the way that ferdi died has been happening to mine and elefant way too many times recently. That and none stop 7.7 games
You should play the Ariete to see how bad it really is or isn't. It's a decent tank until it gets shot it, where it becomes worse than every other MBT's, so it's in a weird spot and I'd like to see your opinion on it.
Maus: I fear no man,
But those things
A squad of four avres
Maus: they scare me
I'd definitely like to see some IT-1, Shturm, or Krizentima gameplay as I've unlocked the first two but have yet to buy/use them
"Well, that was anticlimactic. There was no explosion, he just kinda... stopped living"
If you yellow mark/ mark for squad the target you can use it as a reference for shooting over hills
That AML-90 got blasted into War Thunder 2.
'He just kinda stopped... living' - Spookston, 2022
Top 10 villain quotes of all times
An AVRE once hit the tip of my T34's barrel. I died instantly.
How did you get this cool gunner sight (the binoculars)? Like your Videos and if someone Else Know please Tell me
This is my new KV2 Derp equivalent video.
More, please, more.
Are there sights for other tanks like the one with the short howitzer tank? Like depends on how big you see the enemy tank,you just make it fit on the sights and shoot
You should play the T54e1, that thing has a 5 sec autoloader which can fire both heat and apds which are pretty accurate
I FUCKING NEED THE ORIGONAL CLIP TO THE MEME AT THE START OF THE VIDEO THAT SHIT HAD ME DYING LMAO
I was really thinking about buying the AVRE and the roikat cause they look super fun but I just missed the sale, I think I'll get them for the winter sale just feel kinda bad spending more than the $60 I already have on this game
It funny that he has many thousands of hours and doesn't know that if you engage the tow line on a dead tank it puts them in neutral and make them easier to push.
I saw that *EXACT* FV4005 paint job today playing War Thunder in my own FV4005.
I did not see much of what they did in the match, due to getting eliminated early by a Hellcat.
My dog stepped on a bee 1:15
You can fit some other tanks in the game inside that turret
5:07 "Boss you killed a child...GREAT WORK BOSS! Thats why you're the best!"
05:31
"This is the way the T25 ends, not with a bang, but with a whimper"
The mortar function was really cool.
I just bought the AVRE in the summer sale. Best money I ever spent, that thing is so fun
The demolition set: Fv4005, Centurion Mk5 AVRE, G6, Wellington (4000lbs bomb attached to 2 engines). Optional: Conway (HESH only)
It’s always fun to see light vehicles being vaporized by massive HE something something.
a video of the sprut would be nice ,seen a little bit of it in your channel
Reminds me a lot like the Ho-Ri. Ive love it If you did a video playing only Derp Japanese TDs. :D
I love both of those vehicles
I'd like to see you play the hellcat next
4:05 "I don't think this really helps with pushing that much"
Meanwhile you're pushing a Tiger 2
Bro I love the command and conquer music
I hope that they add some sort of artillery targeting system that would be a lot of fun and if incorrectly implemented ass or insane
the sight on the Avre is a custom MOD or the stock sight? i want it. it's super usefull, with all that info
The USA Faction music from Zero Hour is next level.
That Eland should have been moved straight to their spawn, in the next match
5:41 peek spooksten happiness right there
"Can I kill the maus?"
Yes you can, even a Ho-Ro can kill the maus.
even spaded, the hesh barn is an upsetting vehicle to play.
“Sir the enemy is in that direction Roger removing that direction”
Need an update video to this, seems they nerfed the Hesh round rear and side shots result in nothing now
that was a really good building demo machine