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DeLaval Cream Separator- 1940's New Old Stock: Unboxing and Assembly
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- čas přidán 30. 07. 2023
- Today's video highlights the parts and pieces of a NOS DeLaval Junior cream separator during assembly. The unique thing about this is it's an authentic piece of unused Dairy Farm Americana...straight out of the 1940's. The Junior is physically smaller than the full size separator. Either of them though would mount to a cast iron stand to hold them securely and at a good average working height. This particular one comes as the standard purchase being operated by a hand crank. A set of pulleys and motor could be easily added, but you have to remember that right after the war there were still many small farms that did not have full electrical services to all the farm buildings. On a similar note, even the pulsing motion of the milkers were set up to receive the vacuum required to operate them either by an electric 'Pulso Pump' OR the vacuum from just about any running farm tractor. That's why you see so many old tractors with a pipe plug drilled and tapped into the intake manifold. The above mentioned 'Pulso Pump' was essentially an air compressor that utilized the vacuum created by pumping air instead of utilizing the high pressure discharge air for compressed air.
After finding out that there were some key components missing from the box, the Much Older Brother reminded me that on occasion our uncle would need a particular partthat would not be in stock. So to make a repair for one of the neighboring small dairy farmers, often the solution was to open one of the new machines in stock and cannibalize what was needed to make the repair. That's the obvious answer to the missing components in my box. So once my brother located the missing parts I needed from other boxes of parts and pieces I had the chance to add a bit of updated footage and slip it into the video in halfway appropriate places. The end result was a fully functional DeLaval Junior by the end of the video. #milk, #farmlife, #DeLaval, #separator
NOS Junior!!!! It’s absolutely beautiful. To have an opportunity to uncrate one like that is priceless and family history!!! I have run across many cream separators out picking in barns etc. i always wondered how they operated. Appreciate you reposting this video. Have a great day my friend. Rob on the road
Ahhh...youtube was hiding one from me...LOL I have several other brands and sizes and even two old gravity separators, but this is the only one with the connection to our uncles and our farming days. I'm enjoying your road trip too Rob.
It sure is nice to keep in touch with the old stuff! My Grandparents had a cream separator but they didn’t have cows when I was a little not quite JOman. They used it in the 40s and before. But the Amish still use them but not as much. But just yesterday I heard a steam whistle from a big old tractor. The Amish still use them here and there and I see one being shared among some local Amish farms. So many cool and useful hand operated machines used on farms and in households. I remember as a little kid being fascinated by the cast iron apple peeler. What technology! They’ve been reproducing them many years but more as novelties. The old stuff was well made and lasted because they had to. And they were well taken care of too. At my old house I had a stone spring house that was great for my homemade root beer, water melons and an early fridge, I sure do miss that part of my old home. I remember before building codes and over kill regulations the things that were common and now rare to see. Out houses for one and I remember porcelain chamber pots, white with that little red stripe on the edge. Hand pumps and large metal milk cans lined up waiting to be picked up or on Amish wagons. Still seeing horses and mules in six team rigs in the fields that the Amish community uses is always nice to see and some of that old practical stuff still being used on some farms. Last week Alice and I went to one of our favorite Amish produce stands, a dozen ears of sweet corn for $3.00 and she gave us a bakers dozen at that. Carrots, beets, egg plant, onions, squash, garlic and she walked across the road a cut a huge head of cabbage for us, can’t get it fresher than that. All the farms on this road are Amish so it is very rare that while we are parked in front of the farm house half on the road that a car passes by. And all the kids are helping and working and all with a wave and a smile. Like the saying goes, “just like it used to was” ! The Amish are a tight community that keep care of everyone, just like it use to was. None of those Amish children had a video game or were complaining about the work they were doing. Oh I’m sure they have their don’t feel like it days but I’ve seen little kids begging to help. Often I see one little kid pushing the mower and another kid pulling it with a bailing twine harness. Thing is the many Amish I know have real families with smiles. They always have second holidays, Second Christmas, Second Easter and others. They use their homes as churches and visit on the second days. They are the Old Order House Amish. Each church district has a number of families and each family will hold church one a year in their home. There are special closed wagons that hold the benches and hymnals that travel from home to home. It’s great to see 50-75 buggies in rows where they’re having church. The horses in hitched and after their service and the meal the young folks will be playing games and the older folks sitting under shade trees, men on one area and women in another. And of course just like any other group or culture they have their ups and downs and problems and I believe this is called life. All farms and farming communities were much like the Amish today and it’s a shame to see the change. But what hasn’t been lost with all the modern methods and machinery is the community helping each other, watching each others back and helping where needed. The Country Folks! But we need not live on farms or live in the country to be a good friend and neighbor. And that’s all I have to say about that! So it is with swollen buttoning fingers I raise me CuppaJO Tippin and a Sippin my Good Friends of the 44 Kind and All Good Folks who have Good Hearts! Plus Squeezez of course! This heer iz DaveyJO anna me off me buttoux and refillin for more Tippin!
Its always good to hear your stories of the Amish. We have none in this area, but a few small communities way up north I believe. I did a job in Olney Illinois one time and found a large community there. That, by the way, is the home of white squirrels. I guess they taste the same though. LOL. Yes, I believe in many ways they lead a simpler life but like you say still with normal community and family problems...some small and some probably not so small. We always had a cream separator as long as I was around anyway. We fattened the hogs on the skim milk after we could no longer ship it. So we shipped cream every Thursday by rail to St Louis. Take care ol' buddy and don't take no wooden nickels....you can whittle them out all by yourself !! Sippin' anna tippin' to ya DaveyJO !!
My Grandpa Hughes had a vacuum milker and when we would go visit I would go to the milking parlor with him and watch him milk. He sold grade A milk till they mandated that grade A milk had to be collected straight to stainless steel tanks. He sold grade B milk after that till he got sick. I was always impressed that he could lift the milk containers into the water filled cooler, he wasn't a very talk man. Thanks for bringing back the memories of long ago. I can still hear the sound of the vacuum pump in my mind.
Heck, I could hear the old vacuum pump running all the way from the house and that was a good distance away. It certainly had 'that' sound didn't it...quite unmistakable. We sold milk too until they required the bulk tank set up. That's when we started just fattening hogs with the 'blue-john'. That's what we called the separated milk.
They went by bacteria count and it was determined that the old way with milking pails and hand dumping wasn't clean enough. That's when my uncles started installing the SS bulk tanks and the glass milk lines that carried the fresh milk straight from the cow to the tank with much less potential for contamination.
That was in addition to selling and servicing the milkers and vacuum pumps. The Much Older Brother still has quite a few of the 10' glass tubes. I've got a couple from him as well. I'm glad to have made you think of a time long past for both of us.....LOL
The funnel thingies were interesting to see and learn how they separated the milk and cream. That end product of cream sure added an extra richness to homemade ice cream. Back in the day a company called Juncket sold small boxes of the dry flavored mix to add to the milk, egg, sugar mixture for extra goodness. We used the chocolate, vanilla and strawberry the most. Can’t remember if there were other flavors, too long ago. Oh boy, for a bowl of that now, but, too big of a bite meant instant head throbbing! Thanks for the memories!
My oldest daughter just made a double batch of home made ice cream two weeks ago. Dang it was good. But for some reason it sure seems colder than store bought ice cream. I ended up with a good brain freeze myself. LOL. I don't remember the small boxes of mix at all..OR the flavors. I thought it only came in vanilla. LOL
That brings back memories my friend, we had one on the farm when I was 5 years old, I remember the internals come slowly up to speed like a flywheel, we played a lot with it by spinning it fast, lol, just dump stupid kids, great video and you looks awesome with long hair and a beard, thumbs up my friend
Well Jan I am glad to have tugged another memory up from deep storage for you to reminisce over. LOL.
Dad never owned a vacuum milker or a cream separator. He used to milk 6 or 7 cows by hand, and saved milk for us, from the Guernsey. Set a wide mouth big glass jar( 2 gallon jar I believe) in the fridge over night and you could skim the heavy cream off the top in the morning. When he sold off the cows, he kept the Guernsey for our family needs.
We always had fresh or frozen home made butter, heavy cream for whipping, cream to pour over a bowl of fresh peaches, or to put on your breakfast cereal in the morning.
We had one old Guernsey in the mix of Holstein dairy cows. Dad always said she was a good milker too. Even the separated milk would raise a little ring of cream overnight. We also had a pasteurizer in the well house where the can cooler was. The cream was transferred to 10 gallon milk cans and stored at 33* F in the circulating water.
Pretty neat mini centrifuge inside that separator. We had centrifuges at the chemical plant where I worked. We called those inverted funnels, shades. Our centrifuges had shades that were about 24" across. The machines had about 30 shades in them and when running they turned up several thousand rpms. We never had any of that new fangled equipment on our farm!!! 🤣🤣🤣
Now 24".....THAT would be a centrifuge you had in that machine !! It's crazy how they figured out stuff like this back a hundred years ago isn't it. I've got another early, early separator. Nothing but a tank with a lid and built like a funnel with tall sides. A long site glass runs up the side so you could see the level of the cream as you slowly draw the milk out the bottom through the funnel. That way you knew when to stop !!
May be an older video but *THAT* is an unboxing! 😦 How cool Wendell. Looks brand new
Like I've replied in other comments my uncle would on occasion open one of the machines in stock to remove this or that to use as a repair to another farmer. So it stands to reason that's exactly why there were a few items missing. But the Much Older Brother dug me up some new parts as you saw with the stranger in the orange shirt....LOL. But yes, that was one of the few unboxing vids I've ever done and it IS new old stock !! Not a drop of milk through it yet. Now I'm looking for a cow....NOT !!
hi there good show .got mine out of the barn this spring .wife put it on the front porch and has flowers in it . its a junior #2 on a stand with a motor ,also has a round stand that pulls out and around , missing the top valve and little square oil catcher , i have never used it just something i thought was neat at a sale , but i did milk cows in the 60s, john
Anymore, a they do their best work as a flower pot !! Of course there's a lot of these new homesteaders that could really use one of these I bet. That is IF they had a cow. I've got the swing out cast stand for the cream jar that goes with the larger separators, but not for these little fellas.
A Delaval separation was scattered in different sheds at home.
I think I have the sign that says ( We Use the Delaval Cream Separator )
It was hanging in the granary after the auction. Thank you Wendell.
That's cool to have the old DeLaval sign... at least I HOPE you were able to snag it anyway. I think you're right, that's just about what the sign said. I have a couple sets of the DeLaval cows they used for advertising too. Some are tin and some are paste board. Guernseys, Jerseys and Holsteins for sure.
That was interesting tm44. Never saw one of these before. We always had a couple milk cows when I was growing up. Did everything the old fashion way, that would have been very handy indeed. And like you all, our excess milk always went to the hogs.
Before milking machines made their appearance, dad milked by hand too. I think that's why two of the brothers started selling and servicing the DeLaval milkers. Hand milking a whole herd was kinda tough two times a day, seven days a week.
That's great find!
We still have a pretty good pile of the NOS parts and pieces from the old business.
Jersey farmers would have some good natured fun with Holstein farmers saying - we use the Holstein milk to clean the separator . In the old days cold storage of cream cans was sometimes not ideal, but the experienced butter makers would say we can make the best butter out of that sour cream.
Hahahahaha....yeah, I can understand some old farmers sitting around the pot belly stove at the blacksmith shop ribbing each other like that !! We had to cold store the ten gallon cans of cream for shipping via rail every Thursday. Thanks for the added input to the thread !!
Hey Wendel! Good to see you're still at it! I also have a Delaval Junior, but mine came set up with an ancient GE motor. Unfortunately, all my pieces are rusted where the tinning has worn away. I've been trying to find an outfit that could re-tin the parts, but no joy so far! Anyway, Semper Fi and God Bless!
Well dang, I hate to hear that. If its just for display there's some pretty high quality chrome paint I bet could make it look pretty good. If your's came with the motor option, I bet you don't have the hand crank with the bell....?? Thanks Bret for stopping in today. SemperFi. Take care and be well my friend. Btw, I wonder if one of those DIY electro-plating kits would do you any good.
Good Evening Sir, You Camera is showing 16 Oct 2020, that is almost 3 yrs old and that was Right in the Middle of the CV 19 Long Hair Time Period LOL Outstanding life biography that you had written Sir, That cow milk air pulse bring me back a long time ago !!! Hope that you are doing Ok Sir Cheers
Thank You Very Kindly Sir For taking the time for making that video Sir !!!
Thanks for watching another one Dave !! Yes, this was recorded THREE years ago and I can't hardly believe it. This is just one of at least 50 that are in the unedited que. I hope you guys don't mind seeing the old stuff come forward during the time I don't have anything good to record. I appreciate you taking the time to watch.
@@tractorman4461 Thank You Sir
Cool stuff tractor man.
Well, it IS something different today isn't it...?!! LOL. Thanks for watching my friend.
Thanks for another video 👏👏
Well Thank YOU Tony for stopping in again for another one my friend !!
That's cool! I need one of those.
The first generation cream separators were tall skinny crocks fitted with a petcock at the bottom for draining milk once the cream rose to the top overnight. The old timers that were lucky enough to have a spring, would rest the crock in the fast moving spring water to keep the milk and cream chilled until used. The second generation was a galvanized cylinder fitted with a funnel at the bottom. They fitted a tube from bottom to top on the outside so the level of cream and milk could be easily seen. It sat on three long wooden legs installed in stake pockets around the bottom of the cylinder....tall enough and wide enough to be stable plus to sit a pail underneath the funnel. Open the bottom of the funnel to drain the milk and watch the level fall in the site glass. Pretty cool, huh. I have quite a few old cream separators, including the crock and sheet metal one. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
@@tractorman4461 Thanks for the information! Nice to learn something new.
U was a kid when U was young U can remember using the cream separator alot of people used them years ago on the farms 😊😊 this be 4 my time in the 1940s 1950s IM sure 2 grandpa's and my mom's dad IM sure they did use them do U remember the butter church's U put milk in 2 make butter they had a dasher U used 2 make butter I still can remember dads mom and her mother making butter that way when I was a kid my self that's been well over 45 years ago 😊😊 OMG 9 9 2O23
Yes, I remember the butter churns well. We also had a pasteurizer for the milk we'd use personally. My dad and his brothers operated a dairy from the early 20's up to WW2. They quit their dairy route when 4 of the 6 brothers were drafted into service in the early 40's. That left dad and his older brother to all the farming/dairy duties. So they started shipping milk to the big city until the change was made to the bulk tank systems. We then fattened hogs on the separated milk and shipped only cream to St Louis once a week. The separated milk, blue john, was way higher in milkfat than todays 'whole' milk. The hogs sure fought for it though !! We kept milk whole for ourselves. The gallon milk jars would have two inches or more cream rise to the top over night.
You Rose to the top on this one.
This one's a creamer of the crop 🤣!
Well you really didn't milk this one for all that it was worth 🤣.
I guess you got married to CZcams.
You know something Old something New 🤣.
Actually done a fantastic job describing this. Really that it's of that age and is New Old stock.
Just wondering about you. Because you hadn't put out a video for weeks. Happy and well that answer to my question. You know gas pump Rob been traveling through the southwest and last I heard he has cross through Missouri. He is outseeing the country. You just got to love auto correct. I tried to catch it but had to go back and correct this one 😞.
Hahahahaha....you missed your calling as a comedy writer I think...say, come to think of it Hollywood is probably needing someone right about now. Naw...just kidding, I wouldn't recommend crossing the picket lines.
Yeah Rob crossed into MO out west, but he's not coming all the way across. I've been really tied up on a couple projects, the biggest being the remodel/ relocation of the laundry. I'm building storage shelves for it now....nothing fancy, just large. I just couldn't find it interesting enough to record....so that's why I'm finally pulling up old videos , editing and uploading. Some sheet metal fab coming soon too.
@@tractorman4461 well that all sounds good. And Rob Iowa now at the big sign convention sales swapmeet whatever they call it. I just didn't want to put it up on the front page. I guess I thought you was further along with your laundry room project and what you are. Well actually with the extra work you've been doing sounds like you are farther along now. Anyway I guess that's what the big deal is crossing 🚸 picket line because they're on strike? I heard something I think is Governor complain about somebody crossing some picket line. I don't watch the news like that. And no offense to California friend out there but overall I could care less about California. I'd be glad to cross those picket lines just upset them 😡. I've been number times I wouldn't cross a real picket line. But I'm only assuming you talk about a picket line relating to riders in California for TV shows and stuff. I don't find them very essential, but they sure do. Pushing their agenda. Where was too nice of a day right now. I should get used to 70 degree weather banana warm up again. It just turned August. Make sure you got your OSHA safety equipment as you climb those high heights of 6 in off the ground. A friend of mine when I start out as a customer for the boss back twenty years ago. You know how your head off with somebody even though you got everything in common like nothing. I mean he's a multi-millionaire. About all I got to stop listing for the differences. He grew up farther west mountain Farm country will just say North Dakota. Isolated from everything didn't see another human outside of his immediate family for weeks at a time.@time you seem like a pretty old cuz he's seventy-five or so. But as one old boy said about turning 84. Yeah I used to think that was old until I turned 83. All those numbers are farther down the line for me but Amanda getting closer everyday. He's on 2nd round of a standard stepladder and what had been doing is cleaning the gutters just because he wanted to. He fell off the ladder flat on his back on a concrete fancy patio. His wife. She go out and check on him and he's done gone. I bet you wish he wished that he wore those safety straps or better yet just paid somebody to do it like he normally would have. And he ran a sizable company and he was the heartbeat of that company as well ❤️🩹. So make sure you put some pillows out when you start climbing up oh I don't know why that came to mind but maybe there's a reason. I could have simply said something like now you won't have to air your dirty laundry in public because you have a new wash room 🤣😳.
@@CAROLDDISCOVER-FINDER2525 Yes, I was talking about the writers strike in Cali. I pretty much lived on a ladder daily for over 40 years so yes, a fella gotta keep his head on straight especially climbing with a load on your shoulder. I feel bad for the old friend of yours, but he took his chances and because I guess that's the way we are as humans. I've had a few buddies that had life changing falls from ladders over the years.
Rob must really be a SERIOUS collector to drive this far for porcelain signs. I like to see guys that are passionate and he is sure one of them !! I'm assuming by one of his comments that he's on a two week road trip...??
Someone told me one time that at the 65-60 Rpm on the crank the bell quits ringing from centrifugal force, that way its easy to know if your going to slow. Can't say I've been able to get one and prove that but maybe sometime.
I'd say that sounds about right. Its got '65 rpm' cast right into the handle. I never had to crank ours back home though. I bet it got tiring after about milking 10 or 12 head. I prefer the ones with the motor accessory. I sure cranked the forge my share of time though.
Tractorman, help us! We have just purchased a Delaval Junior No. 2. The bottom piece of the screen unit that goes under the "funnels" is stuck to the drive shaft. We have pushed, pulled, tugged, and smacked it like Fonzi. It is the only thing holding us back from fresh butter. Yours looked like it came right off.
So what you're having a problem with is the assembly I show around 6;30 or so..?? If so that means you have to remove the nut and remove it and cover to remove the 14 funnel shaped plates....is that correct? If that's the case, its just got to be literally stuck to the shaft with some rust because that should be nothing but a 'friction fit' on the shaft. It MAY be a keyed shaft to make sure it doesn't spin ON the shaft instead of WITH the shaft. You may have to turn it upside down and spray PB Blaster underneath the base to get it to the spot that's actually rusted in place.
That's all I got for you. I don't recall that ever happening, but then again ours was used twice daily for decades. Once you get that soaked with rust buster, it should come off with a little more persuasion. The only way I can see to get it in there is upside down. So be ready to deal with the oil in the crankcase !!
buena maquina
Sí, señor. Tenemos varias marcas diferentes de ellos también.
We also never used a cream seperator. We milked by hand and skimmed the cream off the next day. Put it in a jar and shook it until it became butter. If the cow are wild onion or bitter weed it made horrible tasting milk and butter.
Even the separated milk would raise a ring of cream overnight. We pasteurized it too. I have an old, really old first generation sheet metal separator. Nothing but a tank with a lid and built like a funnel with tall sides. A long site glass runs up the side so you could see the level of the cream as you slowly draw the milk out the bottom through the funnel. It sits on three wooden legs. One is missing though. I have probably an even older one too. Very similar but its a tall skinny crock with a valve at the bottom for draining the milk.
It's absolutely ridiculous that you can't just run to the store and get REAL milk in this country anymore. They separate everything from the milk, use it all to make other products then water down the backwash to sell as "ultra-pasteurized homogenized milk" at a premium price.
Hot dang, I cannot argue against ANY thing you said there !! We fattened hogs on much better milk that we can even buy nowadays. We cut old well water tanks in half length ways, welded old plow shares to act as feet. Those would become the feed troughs for the hogs we kept behind the dairy barn. Dumping the milk in they would rush in shoulder to shoulder then the late comers would ram their snout between the hind legs and force their way to the front toppling the first line of hogs off balance. Then repeat...damn hogs. LOL
@@tractorman4461 I can't blame them, I'd act the same way if presented with a trough full of milk lol