Can a Legend beat a Titanfall Pilot? - Apex Season 11
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- New Bangalore lore - Can she win AGAINST A TITANFALL PILOT?
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Apex Legends is a battle royal game in which up to 20 three-man squads land on an island before searching for weapons and supplies to then attempt to defeat all other players in combat. The final team alive wins the round. The game is set in the same sci-fi universe as Respawn Entertainment's Titanfall franchise.
Unlike other prominent battle-royal games, Apex Legends is also similar to "hero shooters", in that it allows the player to choose from a selection of player characters before each round, each with a unique set of skills. The characters are known as "legends" within the game.[2]
The game focuses heavily on teamwork and includes a much-praised system of nonverbal communication, known as "Pinging", which allows players to use their game controller in order to communicate to their team things like directions, weapon locations, enemies and suggested strategies.[3]
Using the "Ping" command will create an icon (a so-called Ping) to appear at the location where the player is looking which is accompanied by an appropriate voice line from the player's in-game character. The Ping will be visible to the player as well as their teammates for a short duration. The Ping icon defaults to a "Go" command, which suggests to the squad an area to explore. However, if the player is looking at something specific (such as a weapon or a piece of equipment) then the Ping icon will change contextually to highlight the presence and location of that object.[4]
The Ping command system also has more advanced functionalities, such as tapping the Ping command twice in quick succession to highlight enemies, holding down the Ping command to bring up more detailed options, Pinging when you need ammunition or equipment, context-based Pings which are unique to characters within the game, and being able to respond to or cancel prior Pings.[4] - Hry
In canon pilots can use as many of the "tacticals" that you can use in titan fall games as they want. their arent really just holopilots or cloaking pilots they are all one in the same. that's why this pilot looks like a holo but can cloak.
Only proof you need for that is the Titanfall 2 opening
@@paulchro_ the titanfall 2 opening has a vanguard pilot, we don’t really know for sure but i doubt that they could ONLY use cloak
@@HolHorseGaming The pilot in the opening uses a data knife, grapple, cloak and holo pilot in the span of a minute
@@paulchro_ And that pilot is a vanguard pilot.
@@HolHorseGaming you are right. Some specialized in one specific area. Vanguard's are jack of all trades but masters of non. So they are better.
yall forgot, not all pilot is on the same level as lets say apex predator pilot..
throughout TF2 we kill buncha piloted titan on our way to stop fold weapon, its no big deal, at the end of the day the most experienced fighter win
fun fact one of bangs voice line : THEY TRY TO CORNER US
Yes, but every pilot is above a the level of an apex legend, and apex predator going serious would rip through every legend and that's not counting regeneration and nanomachines
4:50 Jesus those frags
Friggin Rainbow 6 Siege
I don't appreciate that they frame the pilots of titanfall 2 as "well trained grunts", which just makes them seem inferior to the apex legends. The pilots are op in their own right. It's just an underselling of titanfall to make apex legends more appealing.
A single militia pilot could probs win a game solo lol
@@danioking5369 could win solo trios for sure
Well trained grunt doesn’t even do pilot justice
In the opening of titanfall 2 we saw the pilot KICKING ASS during the fight took down a titan and fought another one all while seemingly by himself
Copper solos the whole Apex roster
Good god imagine trying to kill a pilot with the shields the legends have and all the pilot tacticals
The Holopilot was cloaking because he was trying to do the "Now You See Me" execution where any Pilot that uses it will briefly cloak as they stab the target through the jaw
As the Pilot in that datamined animation was wielding Bangalore's data knife I'll say that the original lore from EA's Chaos Theory notes holds up in that she indeed got the knife from an actual enemy Pilot
Ok but- I feel like Jackson being a legend would be cool. As in- him having being a pilot being in his kit-
I'm going to stop you right there.... Jack cooper would be a badass adition to the legends
@@cakeandmilk4526 I know that- I’m just scared of him being OP- don’t want someone that killed the entirety of the apex preds-
@@TarhosKovacs ash also joined and she was a true pilot and look how she turned out
Balanced ingame and unfortunately in the lore since she joined the games
@@TarhosKovacs you afraid he's gonna have all tacticals (wich for a pilot like him is entirely possible) or wall running and double jumping.
His abilities are:
*Being a pilot*
With the new cinematic it looks like (in my opinion) she needed her brothers help to actually beat him, because without him it’s pretty clear that she would have got her shit rocked
2 partially trained pilots versus a pilot
@@misty_radio4958 a dumb cocky pilot too be fair.
@Nigward Testicles But he barely used them and pulled his punches, a punch from a pilot would probably break most of the bones in your body
@Nigward Testicles maybe, or just not enough plot armor to match cooper who just straightout blows the person/kill them to red mist
I think Bangalore was a lot less lucky than Jackson, and seeing this, he felt bad for her and declared her the winner.
From what I understand of her lore, Bangalore's pretty similar to Jack Cooper. Both had that incredible drive to train to become pilots, even if for different reasons. Had she been just a normal grunt, there'd be no contest on who wins. Bangalore with her regular equipment, a pilot wins. But, give Bangalore the same kit as a pilot, and I think she'd hold her own due to her drive and training.
Edit: keeping the original comment up, but also can now confidently say Bangalore only won because the devs wanted her to. Props to the animator for originally making the in-game animation her barely surviving a Pilot before it was changed.
No
Sorry but the only way for a pilot to die is either overwhelming force or by a equal meaning another pilot there is no other way for Bangalore to win plus she never went into pilot training she just stayed a grunt
@@bennyalberto8571 If I'm correct, she and her brother did go through pilot training, but she didn't quite complete hers before the war ended. And it was her and her brother against a fully kitted pilot in an unarmed fight where he was essentially playing with his prey for no reason. Earlier in the short she gets insta KO'd by a militia pilot, so they at least showed that when they're actually trying pilots are far superior. Except this one was hardly even trying, and still nearly killed both of them.
@@jesster402 no, Bangalore never been through pilot training according to the lore, but she did killed a pilot when she abandoned imc but that’s with the help of her brother. The pilot she killed was a imc which is why was quite Easy since imc pilots are just rookies or idiots. Not to mention she got her ass kicked by a militia pilot during the start
@@wuuuuuuut6799 she didn't know how to fight one until after her encounter. She looked at smoke instead of looking for movement.
bangalore does talk about zeke in the pathfinder book about he becoming a scientist and "dying" in typhon possibly at the time jack cooper assaulted the phase investigation labs of the IMC
Kev for the strongest legends based on lore you could do a pilot or grunt on the list to get a generally idea of their power
The holo pilot uses cloak because he’s doing an execution and there’s an execution like that in TitanFall 2, where you turn invisible no matter what class of pilot you have, and stabs the enemy they’re finishing in the face with their data knife. Oh also in the animation with Bangalore and the holo pilot you can see that the holo pilot has the Bangalore’s heirloom
New cinematic really explains cold-blooded opponent.
Glad to see that Kev was... semi-wrong? They do beat pilot together. As a Family. B)
Update - I was told that Bangalore started her military's career at 18 and graduated at age 20 - My mistake got the numbers mix up on my notes
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Just noting. The Image you used for Bangalore's mom? One of the best Marines I ever knew. Good choice :)
I just dislike how Apex downplays the power of a pilot. Titanfall lore makes it very clear that very few people don't drop out or even survive training. These pilots are on a whole other level than even elite soldiers and grunts.
I would say people just overhype pilots. They're still human, just a lot more experienced. It is left to more external factors like each person's kit more than straight skill, as Bangalore was on pace to becoming a pilot herself
@@willtollefson4746 I still think it's the downplay of it. When respawn made tf2 they made pilots out to be these unrivaled power on the battlefield unless another opposing force like an equally skilled pilot would take them down. They also make these huge things out of the Apex mercenary group themselves. Ever since Apex came out with more lore focusing on Bangalore I feel like pilots have been play down. I'm not saying they are anything like spartans, but they are really strong force.
@@willtollefson4746 It has nothing to do with experience though. The training for pilot CANDIDATES already has a 98% fatality rate, it's not mentioned what the failure rate is but it's probably even higher. So only single or tenth of percentiles among the very elite soldiers qualify as pilots. These guys are supposed to be the peak of peak humans.
To be a pilot you need a titan and what does a titan have? A chain gun and 2 feet of titanium armor. No human experience or not is beating a 20 in bullet
@@willtollefson4746 no, no they don’t overhype them at all, take Training Base Whitehead, with a 98% failure rate, meaning 2 out of 100 candidates (Elite in themselves) become pilots, meaning the BEST OF THE BEST OF THE BEST become pilots, which means that respawn is bullshitting the potential of pilots constantly
I didn't know any of this, thanks!
The Holo Pilot can cloak bc it's an execution all classes can use.
Also the Pilot in the animation has Bangalore's heirloom, there's no way it's Jackson. If the Pilot is Jackson, explaining his sisters death to the other Williams would have been interesting had Bangalore not blocked his strike.
Hey Kevin! Have you noticed that in arenas Party Crasher map that the big blue screens now say “reboot required”? And could it lead to one of the simulacrums or the new legend?
Well, recently there have been many hints that we may see Jackson in the near future, so it makes sense. Also, Jackson did have a gift for Bangalore before he fell out of that ship, didn't he?
I think that's it's not impossible for bang to kill a pilot, a bullet is a bullet afterall, I just think that the way how she kills him and the context come off as a little disrespectful. I'd expect at least a sturggle, especially when the holo pilot model has heavy armor and an exoskeleton.
About the super soldier thing, yeah they're not spartans but implants and body modifications were not uncommon, TF1's burn cards being the best example imo: stim transfusions, prosthetic legs, pernament cloaking devices, aural implants... and of course the jump kit can be used offensively as well for enhaced melee, Lastimosa goes as far as to punch trough a concrete wall in the intro cinematic for TF2.
No you don't think it's not possible. It is possible based off every lore evidence, you just don't want it to be possible lol
@@oshura2506
You misread their comment big time
Not all pilots are on the same level. For example, Kane is a pilot.
@@UncreativeHandle48 I think Kane in particular is pretty *high* level :3
Lastimosa kneed someone then jumpkit boosted them through a wall. He didn't punch through himself he just broke every bone in someone's else's body to go through
4:50 Look at the gameplay LOL
Took 5 legends to take down 1 reaper. Took 1 pilot even without a titan
It is not possible for one of the legends to beat a Pilot, if they do its because they have incredibly obvious plot armour and weapons.
The Pilot's have jump jets, meaning better sliding, more movement, wall running and double jump. Even without that, some Pilot's have more experience than others
Daaaammm that is some intense story
I actually think that Bangalore can beat pilots but not for the same reason you think because for what we know yes Bangalore had pilot training but wasn't able to finish it because she joined to the imc right to the end of the war so officially she is not a pilot but here's the catch, the only type of training seen in Titanfall 1 and 2 is virtual training and is very obvious that is not the same being in a virtual environment and a real fight so i think that militia pilot was a rookie so he was kinda the same level as Bangalore.
That does seem possible
Well then what the writers said that pilot are just hardcore grunts but I don't really think any new blood pilot won't be able to kill any old pilot
It might just me my fan boi in me that is speaking but what ever
@@zeek8754 don't worry my fanboy me sometimes also do stupids things, yeah I know but I said it was a pilot that has been a pilot for a very short amount so he was at the same level as Bangalore
Yes I agree, rookie pilots can get destroyed by her but a veteran can defeat Bangalore easily. Pilots like imc ones are absolute shut show compared to the veterans
but the holo pilot from the animation has the heirloom
Early club less gooo!
Banged-a-lore
Bangalore could probably defeat a pilot depending on how experienced the pilot is. Like for example Lastinosa was a master level pilot which I don’t think Bangalore could defeat but there’s always still a chance.
I think Jack Cooper could beat her easily
we love Jack
naw fam a pilot punch will shatter a grunts spine in canon
I believe why people talk up pilots so much compared to legends and do the nano bot things is because… their likable characters, people jexk off jack cooper (including me I love tf so much) because he fun and cool and is shown why he’s so powerful while Bangalore is a flat rather boring character with no good skins and we’re really only told she’s cool never really shown, though that’s emote is a good start but I still don’t like her character (in my opinion) and nobody wants to think one of the cool pilots that they played as or see in the campaigns could get decked by this/legends character and I can’t blame them.
Though as a person who mains revenant I have no place to talk so feel free to ignore me. (This is just my perspective, and honestly my reasoning)
I agree with your perspective entirely. From Titanfall we saw a plethora of good and evil pilots on either side of the conflict. And yet ALL of these pilots were likable! They had impressive character and were defined well through their actions and dialogue. I can easily pick favorite characters from Titanfall 2, but I cannot pick a bad or unlikable character. When it comes to APEX, and Bangalore, however, in my opinion she is a blatantly bad character. I am not fond of her because she lacks a real personality. The only good thing about her is the jokes made about her quotes…. Any-who, I acknowledge that I am biased in this whole Bangalore Pilot thing, but I have no reason to root for Bangalore.
@@crocinfamous6683 your a good man, I appreciate your thoughts.
I personally don't hold Cooper in as high of an esteem: he was not completely flat, but still a bit of a silent protagonist, just about any story centered game nowadays has far deeper protagonists.
Don't be offended, but I think nostalgia is playing too big of a part in your judgement...
Legends come in all kinds of designs, so each one of us is bound to like some and dislike others, Bang is not my favorite either, but I don't hate her.
And when it comes to the "who would win" deal, the story should go by what is "true" as in what makes sense, regardless of the potential bias of the audience.
@@billthebanuk6212 that’s completely fair, but I think cooper and bt’s relationship is what carried his character and I’m completely fine with that.
It's fine if you don't like bangalore or other legends because they are all their own people you aren't gonna like everyone. I feel like bang gets bad rep because people don't know why she acts like that. Sure she is very militant in behavior but she's also very closed off because she's an imc solider stranded in the frontier. Nobody really takes kindy to the imc in the frontier for obvious reasons. She talked about the discrimination and looks she got from civilians after the war in the pathfinder book.
As for jack cooper he's a cool character template but not an actual character. This happens a lot in video games where the main character is either completely silent or says very little outside of you're choices.(noble six, the rookie, Link) These blank slate characters are a hit everytime and of course they are they're an extension of you! Think about it every almost every meaningful response to dialog the titanfall 2 campaign was chosen by the player. Players either got a straight to business all serious cooper or they got a sarcastic and funny cooper. I don't think its fair to compare actual characters to blank slate characters that behave whatever way the player wants them to.
People need to realize that pilots and grunts take the same training courses. The only difference being if they take Titan training or not
That literally isn’t true.
@@HolHorseGaming But it is, Bangalore literally says this in the Pathfinder's Quest book if I remember correctly
@@Oceb you do realize that pilot training has a 98% washout rate right if that was the case there would be significantly less grunts on both sides, they don't take the same training courses at all
@@Theguyfromarmoredcore That 98% was only for one training ground, and probably not all of them. The IMC, especially towards the end of the war, was likely wanting quantity over quality.
@@Oceb and grunts don't run the gauntlet
Side tangent, but the SPARTAN vs Pilot fanfiction argument got put to rest by a writer for TF themselves. Jack Cooper is a badass ODST. He's no SPARTAN-II.
In the opening scene of the campaign for tf2 the pilot uses 3-4 abilities so I don’t think how they look really matters
Who just came from the new story if the outlands?
I think even pilots skill levels vary by great amounts. Bot pilots in the campaign are seen losing to the apex predators, compared to lastimosa and yourself who were able to hold out and even defeat them (lastimosa got ganged up on rip). So Bangalore would probably stand a chance against a rookie pilot, but someone like lastimosa, jack cooper, Sarah Briggs, an apex predator or even someone from the 6-4 (who are described as “a freelance unit of ELITE PILOTS”) would probably wipe the floor with Bangalore.
Jack cooper is less skilled than Bangalore, she wipes.
Pilots are to e top .1%, pilots like the apex predator or the 6-4 are the .01%. Any pilots destroys bangolore.
Her brother petty her, damn😂😂😂😂😂
It depends on how much the pilot is experienced
just realising that newcastle is a pilot too
Apparently the recent Stories from the Outlands video says almost. XD
I know this video is a year old but just thought to say this. Looking at the knife it looks like the knife that was welded by that IMC Commander in the Outlands video that showed Anita and Jackson Williams aka Bangalore and Newcastle.
If I recall that IMC pilot was a cold blooded killer. For wanting to kill Jackson for treason, and bombarding a civilian settlement when both Anita and Jackson disobey his orders. And it took both them to take him down. So I was that the knife Anita aka Bangalore has doesn’t belong to her brother but to the IMC commander who was a pilot that they took down and was a “cold blooded killer.”
So if pilots are just better grunts how come Lastimosa in the Titanfall 2 cinematic intro was able to swing or even throw matter of perspective a spectre and impale it on a rebar?
They are much much better kited than a grunt
@@misty_radio4958 but still an ordinary grunt couldnt do that specters are heavy and he swinged it just like that and kicked it impaling the specter deeper on the rebar
@@ghost_420 people think they use the jump kit to help them punch but I doubt it punching steel fukin hurts
@@misty_radio4958 yeah no shit thats why they have to be sligtly modified normal grunts rarely engage in melee combat with robotic infantry and when they do they use stocks of their guns to hit them if they dont get brutally killed by them first
@@ghost_420 I think they are modified probably the most plausible answer like what you said probably have some bone argumentations
Ok sun things up, only legends that can prob kill a pilot is wraith and Bangalore, Bangalore and her brother killed a imc pilot, despite its a noob and shitty pilot it’s still a pretty impressive feat for a grunt. Wraith was a scientific pilot which means she only gets a neurolink with the titan but don’t get the training, however her abilities is powerful against a pilot and I guess she has a basic concept of pilots. Ok up to the hard parts, can they beat jack cooper or extremely experienced pilots? No 100%. Veteran pilots from militia are killing machines and they are probably the only one that can be killed by overwhelming or equal force, jack cooper being the top pilot killed all predators except for blisk. What even secures this further is ash, if they cannot even beat ash in apex legend then why even compare them to militia pilots, what’s even secures this further is that ash wrecks veteran militia pilots like how she dominates apex arena in the lore and yet she was only defeated by jack cooper once in tf2. So overall can legends kill a pilot? Only Bangalore and wraith can but only imc or rookie pilots by them self, ash can definitely handle 1-2 veteran pilots all by her self. Can they beat cooper? Bangalore and wraith is going to lose immediately to him but ash vs cooper is a 50-50 for me since both are like the top of the food chain.
Wait I’m the gridiron stories from the outlander she gets her knife from an iMac pilot that wanted to kill Jackson
You have started a gang war
I think it’s so cool that she fights a pilot for her Banga-lore skin!
Let’s focus on fixing Titanfall2 before we start going through hypotheticals
CRAZY THEORY WHAT IF THE PILOT WAS JACKSON?!!? AND SHE KILLED HIM?!!?
Jackson looks like Lil Nas X and Zeke looks like Nick Cannon
well we know how they got the knife now.
Can you do a comparaison with revenant and ash plz 😁😁
Well i think ash would win because revenant is a prototype while ash is a new simulacrum
@@raiden6583 but Rev can't die
4:50 looks fun
Well this aged well
So Bangalore is a pilot, that explains most of this.
Bangalore completed basic grunt training not pilot training, besides unless you have regeneration, nanobot injection and a link to a titan you are not a pilot, you're just a well trained grunt lmaooooooo
Didn't the first cutscenes from tf2 show a pilot with a grapple pilot helmet. helmet design doesn't mean anything and not specifically to a certain class
You're kinda right but also wrong, truly we don't know if the pilots use specific uniforms but that grapple pilot was from a early development stage so is hard to consider if it's canon because now that helmet is from viper and we don't if viper is a grapple pilot or not, if we knew that detail we could know if you're right or not
The abilities of the legends are add-on programs and combat multi-purposes tools a titan pilot can put on and in his/her helmet, plate carrier and jump kit! There was a theory that they injected nano-bots into their body to reduce the strains of those add-on and tools! Plus, all of them survive actual combat before being qualified for pilot training! So yeah, 2 pilots are enough to rough house all the legends!
Not all legends, they might have more difficulties against the simulacrums, Ash and Revenant.
@@TheUnMaka Ash I understand, she was a titan pilot, well until BT squished her! But Revenant?🤨
@@khoanguyen-wc8qz Well he is over 200 years old, meaning he could have experience dealing with pilots during that time, not to mention he has different parts than most simulacrums, including wall crawling and blade fingertips.
@@TheUnMaka doesnt matter if he's 200 years old mf is not better than a grunt à single punch from a pilot would kill him he's just a prototype
Yes because “plot armor”
Bangalore is well trained and the Pilot doesn't have a Titan, why would she not win
Depends on the legend
Depends on the pilot
Eh, If it were a pilot, I think that big robot they pilot is going to take her down.
isnt it nice to visit this video after the outlands storie was posted bout bangalore and see how wrong it is
udder brudder
1:57
I think that dev is tweaking because if you played any of the TF games you'll see them do extraordinary things that are borderline super human
The theory was cool and all but now we know she took it from a IMC pilot who thought he was the shit
Yes she can win because the apex legends have plot armor
And Jack Cooper wasn’t just a generic straight white male Mary Sue protagonist meant to service a generic campaign in a generic shooter? Okay 😂
@@uwu-ul9mm cringe
So basically jack cooper?
@@uwu-ul9mm without that “generic campaign” and “generic shooter” you wouldn’t have apex legends. Respect the older games
@@uwu-ul9mm i wouldn't call Titanfall a generic shooter if it has twice the movement mechanics then your generic battle royale
Can you do apex civil war part 2 please
No way they are described as well trained grunts. I’ve never seen a grunt one shot a pilot with their fist. And I’ve seen many pilots kill many many pilots or even specters with their bare hands.
They're literally just grunts with jumpkits. Bangalore is by all accounts the perfect grunt, she also has pilot training. Jackson is better than her and is also a pilot. Just accept the fact that in game pilot feats are exaggerated and arent duper soldiers
She already did
All right if you're right then I have a proposition if you are wrong you have to put on that clown thing again like he did last time you were wrong let's see what happens at the stores at the outlands
He sited everything and was accurate how could he be wrong?
Bangalore’s heirloom is a war crime. Looting a soldier for a war trophy, so…
Tell that to Richter from Titanfall 2, he took an ear off of those he's killed as a trophy.
@@Oceb king of the war crimes
🤔
With the same kit she'd beat a regular pilot but i really don't think she's on the level of a pilot like Cooper or Ash
Yes I think she definitely can beat a regular pilot but a veteran or ash or cooper she has no chance. Furthermore ash dominated apex during the lore since she was way too experienced
She might be able to beat a rookie but remember what a single pilot punch can do even à rookie if he get close she's done
No she doesn’t. Shes nowhere near a pilot.
@@bear3616 she's well trained enough, with enough training with pilot gear and juice she could probably take like a regular pilot
@@r3ktfox146 she has nowhere near the training that a pilot had.
Really hate that Twitter. Really undermines the status of "Pilot".
You just realised bangalore s name means
Bang a lore XDXDXD
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Bangalore has no match for jack Cooper
i know im a year late to all this personally outside of a titan i think a pilot can beat a legend except ash (former pilot) and revenant (he has so many extra bodies) and maybe wraith (she was a pilot but forgot everything i think) and if you watch ToonCraft who works for EA he goes over it all
(if you respond to this comment i will not reply because i just want to put my thoughts out there and arnt about to argue about it)
Wait. So that means Newcastle is a pilot
So is bangalore
I love everyone is conveniently ignoring Major Anderson
What about him?
@@colewhatever7673 I think he died because he was struggling against a grunt (who managed to badly injured him) and messed up his time device which lead to his death
@@hel9157 no? His time travel device malfunctioned, after it got smacked into the railing. But there's nothing about him getting badly injured. Where did that theory come from?
@@colewhatever7673 sorry I think I misremembered, been a while since I played the campaign. I do remember he still got smacked by the grunt tho so that part was true
@@hel9157 he got kicked twice but still easily disarmed the grunt who had a drop on him and held a gun up to his head. Just look up the clip.
Not all pilots are on the same level there are god like and stupid ones. Imc’s pilots from tf2 are basically makeshift pilots they barely had any skills in titans or hand to hand combat as stated in the lore to be intimidating in numbers while god like ones like latismosa, ash, blisk and cooper are the ones legend stands no chance against. Toon raft(formerly titantoons) was the one responsible for making the animation. Originally the plan was to add scryer the one being disarmed by Bangalore however the deadline and the limited resources was not on his side. Scryer’s model was built by another group responsible for making the cinematic and he cannot just go there and ask them for it as it will take a lot of time so he was forced to use tf2 old holopilot models which looked similar to scryer’s armor. Moreover, original test was Bangalore being strangled by the pilot and struggling to escape but tooncraft didn’t wanted to make her seemingly weak against pilots so he reworked to what we have now. Furthermore, legends don’t stand a chance as most of them are not even soldiers. Bang was a really good soldier but Jackson was the only one finished through pilot training and tbh imc training is jut not reliable they are not good pilots anyways. In conclusion, who will win? Most of the time is pilots and it depends. Regular pilot vs a highest rank legend is a 50/50 chance. If it was jack cooper or blisk vs a highest rank legend is a 100/0 so yeah jack cooper and blisk takes the w if they were the ones competing
Pilot ia like a tank driver in the Great War, they are special due to the fact that they can drive an powerful vehicle but over time, their speciality will eventuality fade away. Being Pilot is the same thing, with enough training, anyone can be a Pilot. I would suspect that somewhere in the TF/A lore, there would be a grunt who have to be a pilot in the middle of the battle just to finish the mission, oh wait...it is basically TFI2 story.
No, pilots are pretty special even without titans. And jack cooper was going through pilot training being taught by lastimosa
@@colewhatever7673 they are special by means of their equipment, but the thing is: if you are training as a Pilot, you are expecting to be sitting in a Titan most of the time, so you want to specialize in that, you don't want to waste time in perfecting handheld weapon combat for that rare occasion you'd be outside your Titan
@@billthebanuk6212 really? Where is it written that they sit im titans most of the time and that they don't get trained in weapon Combat cuz in Titanfall 1 theyre out of the titan most of the time and seem to shoot pretty well and Tf1's online campaign is canon
My meme? 0:18
No
Now I know how Cuban Blisk felt when he said "Pilots use to mean something".
How can a well trained grunt, one hit kill fully armored soldiers in a single punch? Or jump from wall to wall without having motion sickness or Pilot a Titan without some kind of neural enhancements?
Just saying Pilots should just be considered super soldiers and not a highly trained person. Hell not everyone can be a pilot.
Jack Cooper taking down the Apex Predators? Jack Cooper having no prior Titan training?
@@rocketbunny9347 he did get the best titan going
Lmfaooo why are Titanfall fanboys always so triggered pilots aren't unkillable gods like they thought
@@oshura2506 its just facts
One hit melees where a gameplay mechanic as we can see in the fight between Anderson and a random grunt in the mission Effect and Cause
doesn't cold-blooded = dead ?
no
So there are more legends who can pilot a Titan :0, Ash - obviously, Bangalore -as explained, Wraith = former senior pilot(need some recall to pilot one, skill is a skill even when u lost memory), Valk - grow up secretly piloting her father's Titan, uncle Blisk and Cooper(if they add them), PATHFINDER , YES PATHFINDER (he just need inspiration, like the boxing) , Wattson-Horizen-cmon they're brilliant scientist they can adept, Crypto will use this tech and drones, that's all I can think. Lemme know if I missed any! Rampart yeh!
Being a scientist doesnt mean you can pilot a war machine
@@kidgoku7386 but they have the ability to adept and learn more than anyone else. That's what I meant.
@@var_4ttre besides lore defying jack cooper no one can really learn how to pilot in just a few days
Actually it has been said that Wraith lost her Pilot ability with her memory
Think it this way: if you are a Doctor and your brain gets reset, you don't remember studying your PHD
This exact process applies to Wraith as she was a researcher more than a fighter
@@var_4ttre it's not about being smart, it's about experience from fighting in the war. Wattson didnt even know how to hold a gun before joining the apex games let alone pilot a titan without years of fighting
After the vid i def think she cant kill a pilot…not on her own i mean she woulda been dead if jackson wasnt there
Bang can beat Ash soo.....
I think you’re making too many assumptions and overhyping Bangalore’s skill level based on very little evidence.
Soooo u telling me (I already know titanfall lore. vet from both tf and tf2) that a well trained soilder can take 3 to five shots to the back and heal without any sort of neno bugs in them cause if I'm wrong hit me in comment but copper was injected with some of them bugs cause he was injured really badly.. and yes I know that some pilots are robots hint ash and stim and phaze pilot but I've never seen a grunt take up to 2 bullets and not die and titan fall even if they had big Boi armor
Any pilot can use any ability it does not matter what they wear it only matters what gadget they have
That is incorrect
Stim is a dangerous substance that only Simulacrum pilots can use because it's dangerous to living bodies
Octane uses Stim because he undergoes constant Dialysis treatments to keep his chemicals in check and avoid intoxication.
Also, you expect every Pilot to ne carrying all of the gadgets at all times? That is A LOT of equipment, it's gonna get real heavy real badly
@@billthebanuk6212
Stim Pilots in Titanfall 1 were humans, also some Grunts used Stim
Octane's sheer volume of Stim makes him a massive outlier for stating any norm
Titanfall 2 pilots rise up
Bangalore cannot beat a pilot because the pilot is in a titan 😳😳😳😳
You'd be right if there actually was a Titan, but in hand-to-hand she wins
A LOT of people forget that Jack Cooper was a Rifleman with a decent amount of Pilot training and 0 Titan training, yet he managed to take out one of the most feared Mercenary groups on the frontier and kill 100's of Pilots and reapers along the way by HIMSELF.
The double standards with the TF circlejerkers that complain about bang is silly when they don't acknowledge the literal main Character of TF2.
Exactly 🤣 people really make a problem out of anything these days
But you do realize that Bangalore isn't more powerful than the other legends yet somehow can beat highly trained military personnel. So with that in mind you're telling me that octane (some rich drug Lords spoiled son) can sorta compete with a pilot (a person who has trained for years and fights in a war)
@@colewhatever7673 same for watsonn some little girl with electric toys lol
@@colewhatever7673 You realise every legend has beat each other atleast once, yet that doesn't mean they will beat them every single time. It's a completely different ball game in the Apex games as it's teams of 3. This situation we're talking about 1 on 1. Only legends I can think of that have a clear advantage over Bangalore are wraith, revenant and ash. Those people can definitely take down some random pilot. My point still stands
@@rocketbunny9347that still doesn't make sense, that would be a huge imbalance in the apex games
Nah thats cap
Short answer:
No.
Long answer:
Respawn will cannibalize TF2 in a heartbeat to generate more hype for apex due to it being far more profitable (per amount of work).
My man 🤝
r/Titanfall is that way sir, please take your circlejerking somewhere else
@@rocketbunny9347 that's not an argument against what he said, you're just throwing insults at him
@@colewhatever7673 why do I need to have a logical argument against a circlejerker? It's very clear he hates apex and doesn't read any lore from apex. He just thinks Pilot=Unkillable super soldier. I've already made my points in other threads in this comment section but I'm not even going to attempt with this one. Apex bad Titanfall good amiright?
Except yes, she can
Why? Because that Pilot is not using a Titan.
Bangalore has been shown multiple times to be well trained in infantry combat, so it's an even fight.
But sure just disregard rational thought and just keep on crying on TF3's grave.
I seriously don't understand when people say Pilots can only be defeated by another Pilot
Jack Cooper never got a Pilot license, and he DESTROYED tons of Pilots, most notably Richter, Cane, Slone, Ash, Viper...
Additionally, being a Pilot means you are training and specializing in, you know, piloting Titans, meaning you certainly won't be taking specialization in hand to hand combat if you expect to be sitting in a Titan for most of the time.
So yeah, a Legend can beat a Pilot just fine as long as there are no Titans involved.
Pilots do get extreme on-foot combat training too, the physical requirements of a Full Combat Pilot license leave many to fail the training, based on Titanfall 1 written lore.
Like running 20 kilometers then using an R-97 to do a super tight grouping at 50 meters
@@AnoAssassin well yes of course they know how to fight on the ground as well, but they are not specialized in that, they are specialized in Titans, but when it comes to ground combat they are not invincible at all
@@billthebanuk6212 Not invincible, but really damn good.
Pilots are often deployed without their titans, as seen with TF1 opening cutscenes where pilots are dropped in.
Well if Bangalore can beat a pilot, then she can also beat ash since she is a pilot.
I would agree with your logic but I think what makes a pilot is experience, then ash is walking circle around bang and Mt reasonings is just that simulation only can get u so far and if u ain't a genius then it kinda of unreasonable to compare them
Well, yes, why would she not
Ash is competing in the games among the Legends on the same level, she is not automatically winning every fight, why? Because she doesn't have a Titan to use
Not every Pilot is equal
@@billthebanuk6212 No, it's because of gameplay balancing.
The legends are simply on different tiers of power, the reason why the more powerful ones don't always win is that the game wouldn't be fun.
There’s no way she should be able to but considering how much respawn loves to destroy Titanfalls lore and world building in favor of hyping up legends in apex I really wouldn’t be surprised if she somehow won a in cannon fight with a pilot using some boring terribly written plot point
You act like titanfall 2 was some gem. Like, it wasn’t a masterpiece. It was a generic shooter meant to emulate a ton of different shooters on the market. It was meant to appeal to straight white male teens. That meant putting helmeted, ‘cool’ super soldiers at the forefront of the game and letting the bland Mary Sue protagonist really fulfill the power fantasy that the target demographic loved. Titanfall 2 is not a paragon of writing or world building. It’s mechanics may have set it apart but it’s story did not.
Apex Legends took the shitty little core of titanfall and spun it into something new and much more creative. The characters are much more nuanced and interesting, the story is layered and complex, and there aren’t any stupid generic white men running around with protagonist in a shooter campaign plot armor running around.
You say terribly written 😂 as if you know anything about writing
@@uwu-ul9mm ooh someone got racist
@@uwu-ul9mm A campaign doesn't need to reinvent the wheel to be well written. In a brief campaign, Titanfall 2 was able to create some really memorable and loveable characters in BT and Cooper; it was also able to build a world that the player could effectively throw themselves into and enjoy. The "plot armor" you speak of also doesn't really make any sense. This game isn't meant to be a three-part trilogy where the main character goes on an arc to understand their ancient heritage and abilities, it's simply a story of a soldier and his robot trying to save their home. Due to this, I'd hardly say that the core of Titanfall was "shitty", and others who have played the game would be inclined to agree with me. There's a reason this game has such a loyal fanbase.
@@uwu-ul9mm I mean...titanfall didnt focused on characters, the original one only focused in some ones, rather it was its world building, It just saddens me to see where its going. Apex aint bad, like, theres some interesting things there, but it feels like a tuned down titanfall, like guns and movility, obiously that comes to personal liking tho. Also apex has some good turns in legends abilites yet its still trying (in some cases) titanfall abilities. and the unique ones, aing bad, as I said I like em.
It saddens me that now Tf1 and Tf2 are with the Ddos, it scares me that it could get to apex...I mean sometimes launch servers are bad(not S11) but i dont understand the motive still
@@uwu-ul9mm I would come with a thesis on the subject but I think the comments already beat me to it
She won cus tf2 is ddosed
She can, pilots arent inmortal, Just Hard to kill
I can't find a flaw in your logic, you win this argument