How To Adjust A Steering Box One Time & Have It Perfect In 30 Minutes | Dodge Ram 2/3500
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For your door hinges, use “Wurth anti-corrosion film”. Comes in a little can and you spray it on the hinges and the door stops until the squeezing goes away. Worked at a Chrysler dealer for years and found that stuff most effective.
EMF Intermediate Shaft Bushings. At 8:50... the aluminum (looking) piece going through the firewall. That shaft has a rubber coupler that takes some shock/feedback out. The rubber bottoms out and is limited by two opposing pins. There are washers/spacers (see Genos) that fill the void and doesn't allow any give by the rubber. The bouncing your steering wheel has when you testing it (pull/release... and it bounces back and forth)... that's the rubber taking some motion up. No amount of steering box tightening is going to lessen what the rubber in the coupler does. Look for this pins! Inside the dash near the universal. This is on almost all Rams ('94-'22). Part number EMF DSB-3999.
When you replace with an upgraded/billet shaft, does this help with the “bouncing”?
Steve your videos are amazing. God bless you
The truck is looking bad ass Steve
I love this video! I'll be doing this to my 2nd Gen tomorrow thanks for this video it probably just saved me $500!
Thanks for the help, For door creaking I just use plain grease for ball joints or such.
Thank you for this video! I just put a new box on my truck and the steering is shit! So I will be doing this to my truck this weekend! I Love your videos man! I’m in VA not far from you! 🤗
04 dodge ram 2500 4x4 with Truck camper. I put new synergy steering. Took it to the desert for shake down. Steering was terrible. Came home drilled brackets put synergy bolts in. Took your advice and adjusted steering box. Drives straight as an arrow. Synergy stuff is awesome it was a problem with the installer that would be me. Thank you.
Used kroil on my hinge roller. Worked for a while.
Door hinge squeak. When I have a stubborn squeak usually I spray it with break free brand clp. It cleans, lubricants and protects. I know it's a gun cleaner but works great on other stuff too. LPS spray lubricant has also worked well for me but when it don't work I go to clp.
Noticed in a more recent Video its still tight. Great video from Steve.
Good stuff..
I’ve had good luck with fluid film for door hinges and latches
Get the intermediate shaft bushings that you press into the shaft. It’s a two minute repair. If your wheel has more play to one side or the other. This is your fix
I had same problem I used transmission fluid and worked it in
I use fluid film on everything, its incredible what that stuff can do, i coat the back of my aluminum wheels with it so they dont't oxidize to the hub and it works amazing, i put it on my trailer hitch and a year later its still lubricated, im always amazed by that stuff.
Fluid Film is some amazing stuff. Started using it a couple of months ago. It is lanolin based(wool wax). Go figure.They created it in 1943. When the U.S. Navy needed to conquer the costs and delays of battling rust and corrosion in the ballast tanks of its thousands of combat and support vessels in World War II, Fluid Film filled the bill! Pretty cool.
I'm also a fan of fluid film. I use it on all my hinges at home and on vehicles. Heck, I had a door lock and tried that graphene spray and the keys still sucked on it, so screw it, sprayed some fluid film and super smooth (maybe too smooth) haha this stuff is great
@@ThEMarD yea man, its incredible stuff.
Use "rem oil with Teflon" spray can on your door Hindge. I also use it on my locks
I personally have the best results with motor oil on the door hinges, everything else the creek comes back after short time.
nice video
I’m gonna try this on my 93
for. the hinges, make sure the bolts to the body are good and tight otherwise the flexing of the hinges against the body will squeak...
I use garage door silicone lube on my hinges.
Use graphite spray on your door, hinges or replace the rubbers that are in them.
Awesome video and very interesting infor on to adjust the gear box Ty any infor on how to turn ur back seat into a bed
I'll make one as soon as I figure out what I'm going to do😁
Fluid film for the door hinges
I swear your door hinges sound just like my 96. WD-40 worked for a day, so I'm going to do some looking.
Also check the Ujs on the steering shaft for notchiness and slop also
Yep! Always an overlooked part
Use all purpose oil from the auto part store for the hinge
For the hinge, I saw someone said replace the bushings, which is an option. But, use coconut oil. 🤗🤗 mine did the same thing, and coconut oil made it stop! Hahaha. But I do need to change the bushings. I’m just too lazy.
Tighten hedge bolts
If I haven’t adjusted my steering box, would it make sense then that when i begin to turn left or right it makes a thud sound once as i turn my wheel?
Replace the door hinge bushing and spring lol mine does same thing lazy an cheap I throw wheel bearing grease
Fluid film!
Use a dry wax lube for metal for the door
Redhead is the ticket, it doesn't care that I have 14 wides with 40x15.50s and daily drive the crewcab that way. I totally adjust my stock box like this and if definitely made a difference but the redhead swap made the world
I want a lot of the upgrades for the truck but just can't justify it in this economy. Glad to hear you've had luck with both with that massive setup
I agree, redhead all the way, used to have 15.50s too, back to stock now. That box combined with a billet steering shaft, equals one tight steering wheel.
@DuckButter with squarebodys we do a jeep steering shaft so it's super budget and solid af. Love my steering even with almost 20" lift
I got a redhead an still have the same problem, that’s why I’m here 😩
I installed a redhead less than a month ago and have slop in my steering already, wasted money and if you try to adjust it then you void the warranty and it’s like pulling teeth to get them to replace it, so personally I’ll never recommend redhead to anyone!!
Put grease on the door hinges and all the rollers in the door hinges
Have you ever adjusted the (adjuster nut) where the input shaft is connected? I bought a Masterpro and that part backed itself out so much that it locked up my steering. I took it off my truck and could take it out, without a tool!! Crazy. Before the bind the play grew from 2" to 4" in one week.
I haven't. I've had the little screw come lose on me a few times from the shaft into the box. Pretrip saved me big that day..
Where did you buy your chassis oiling system? seems like a good way to prevent rust.
Neglect lol 😂 I had to pull the whole engine apart to fix those leaks. Oil pan and front case gasket. What fun that was!
I have a 2004 Dodge Ram 5.9 Cummins 10 inch lift . I change all the linkages brand new with synergy but I have a lot of slop on my steering wheel what's the binding mean? what is I'm looking for on the steering wheel ? and the steering wheel does not lock anymore too do you know how to fix that too ?
Can I do this to my second gen it’s a 2002 Cummins
Sounds like door pins in bind
Tap up put in black grease
Tap back down only Tap up maybe a 1/4
If that much
If you replace the hinge bushings, the noise will go away. Mine did the same thing. Haha super easy fix!
Not when the check roller is seized.
Do you need an alignment after this? My truck now pulls to the right a lot more than it did. The adjustment did fix about 80% of the looseness in the steering wheel at center from left to right.
I try to get an alignment every 6 months to a year but this never affected my alignment and it shouldn't unless you had a problem prior. Tighter box will make alignment problems apparent
@CPSteveMiller I think it's called tow the wheel will turn right on its own if you let go. It wasn't this bad before the adjustment. I'll bring it for alignment again. I've had pulling issue a while, and they never said the gear box might need adjusting.
So I just adjusts mine for the second time yesterday. I hear a very slight hum or winding noise now. The steering slop is gone now which is nice. Should I be worried about the slight hum noise? It’s not binding that I can feel. Binding would be stopping or super difficult steering, correct?
Check the power steering fluid and make sure there's no air. Definitely make sure you didn't make it too tight. I left about an inch of slop in mine just so I know I'm not prematurely wearing it out. I could probably go tighter but I didn't want to risk it!
If it binds you'll feel that. It can be dangerous so don't let it do that. Loosen it up if needed.
my 1995 dodge ram 1500 has 400k miles and i bottomed out my box and still no binding
Thro!!!
Hi Steve how about rebuild ur power steering gear box
There's no need to rebuild what's adjustable. That's why there's an adjustment. Even after a rebuild you're just going to do what I do in this video anyway.
You're supposed to have a little slop...the oil in the system under pressure takes up that space...
Right right, so over 2 inches of play side to side at the steering wheel is normal? Absolutely not. Here we are a year later and way better steering than it was. It was damn near deadly when I recorded this video. Now I can let off the steering wheel and go straight down the road for 15 to 30 seconds depending on the road. No hands.
I did this on my 06 and it just made it harder to return to straight after a turn i had to help it back to center. It worked ok, but I think the quarter to half turn max is accurate. Otherwise it's annoying
It's so much better now. If you're experiencing that you definitely need a box
@@CPSteveMiller I'm thinking I over tightened it, but I never had any binding. Then i left it and it loostened up over driving it for a couple hours. Like you said, eventually it'll happen but honestly it drives nice the way it is for the time being
There’s always a correct way … 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤦🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
hey friend I need your help my dodge ram is bending the steering rod I changed the idrablic box and the pitman arm but twice the steering rod has bent me
Something somewhere is binding
what fender flares did you use?
They came on the truck from the previous owner
Thanks for the video. I got an 04.5 3500. I bought and installed a red head gear box. It was slightly better for a few months, but has since then became sloppy. I emailed Red Head and they said to check the gear box by hooking vise grips to the input and output shafts of the gear box and rotating the input shaft back and forth and look for movement on the output shaft. It was perfect. I told red head of this issue. He said to do it with the truck running. He said the "slack" gets filled up with pressure from the power steering pump. Does that mean the box is good and my problem is else where? I can move my steering wheel while engine is off and I have 4 inches or so of play. What do you recommend? Thanks from East Texas.
Get the front of the truck off the ground supported by the axles and wiggled the wheels front back and side to side. Also check the front u joints on the axle. There's a lot of failure points on the front steering. If everything is solid, which I would doubt it is because it's a dodge, the next thing to check would be the steering shaft itself. They have a little bushing in there that likes to fail.
Also get a steering stabilizer if you don't already have one. They're worth the money and are pretty cheap if you get them on amazon.
@@CPSteveMiller Thanks man! I"ll check everything you suggested. It came with a steering stabilizer. Thanks again!! Keep up the good work!!
Fluid film
I did 3 full turns on my old steering box on mine and never helped ... Got a new reman steering box and kinda better . but still had to turn it a full turn on the new steering box to make it better but still has slop .. All steering components are new but all the slop comes from the box .. Been thinking of buying one of those redtop steering boxes but idk i rarely use the truck so might just leave it as it is
This made a huge difference on mine. If it's not making a difference you could have something broken internally. hard to say without looking at it. My slop is damn near gone.
Side note I've replaced a bad box with another box and the play was barely better. Rather than spending the 200 on a new box with the same issues I'd prefer to do this until it finally craps out. At least until it really fails I can have nice steering!
Try lithium grease out of the can on the door hinges that should stop the squeak
Wd40
Never seize on the door hinges
Have you ever come across the death wobble?
Yeah. My black truck had it bad when I bought it. The bushing wore out in the track bar. Took awhile to find because the bolt was so tight
I have 96 dodge us to be soninlaw
Won't start think its common rail
He run out of fuel several times
I think he's burn starter any tips
After get starter for it I live in ky way to far
If it's a 96 it's a 12 valve with a ppump. Unscrew the fuel filter just enough to allow air to escape and then manually prime the pump until it's pissing fuel and all the air is out. Tighten the fuel filter and then try it. May take a few times to get all the air out but that's how I do it. If there's any air a mechanical diesel won't start
Is this applicable for 1500s? We have a 3rd gen out of town that apparently 4k worth of front end work was put in, it drove good for a few months and now has slop and wobble again on the highways.
I only deal with 2500s and bigger, so I've never tried one on a 1500. All boxes should have an adjustment, though.
@@CPSteveMiller Figured as much! Thanks for the reply even on an old video. Hopefully the rig is holding up well.
Still going a year later! I'd love a new box but this one's been okay
@@CPSteveMiller Well, functioning a year later is a good testiment lol. I heard all the 'reman' boxes ar ejunk nowadays anyway.
Second first from a semi 🤷🏻♂️
Buy a new 150$ box. Tightening that bearing is a great way to have the steering box lock up going down the road.
Replacing junk with junk makes no sense. If you are not binding it will not lock up. I've spent 200 on a box from the auto parts store and it was worse than my used one
Also my methods are off of physical experience. I've adjusted my steering boxes and driven 100k miles the same year a few times.
Adjusting the backlash is a procedure covered in the manual.
So if you do it right, it is not going to “lock up” your steering.
Mine wanders just like it an alignment problem, but it's not, I have the stabilizer just like yours , will this help that, started about 60,000 miles, 120,000 now.
Stock tires and wheels????
I've put grease zerks at all joints.
Mine tends to do that as well. That can be anything. Gotta verify everything is perfect and even then these trucks aren't perfect. If the box has slop it can help but not always the cure for it
Sorry, I meant to say silicone silicone. I’ll stop the squeak.
Use liquid wrench, not silicone
Fix your oil leaks
You're about 6 months behind
Are you running waste oil in your dodge?
Not on purpose. I only had some in the bottom of the aux tank. That's all that went through the fuel system. Maybe a couple qts total
Can’t have any bind if there’s no gears left…
This video is over a year old and I'm still on the same box.. Y'all wild with these comments 😂 boxes were made to be adjusted.
@@CPSteveMiller lol I was just playing I just maxed one out on tightness with no binding. Truck has 350k on what seems to be original or one replacement, had almost a full turn before engaging.
These boxes are such garbage from the factory. I wanted to go redhead but now guys are telling me they suck. Can't win, man! 😂
Furst 😅
Use wd 40 on the door
What the heck is bind
Go tight enough and you'll find out 😅
Adjust a new box with only 1/8 of a turn at a time
If you’re adjusting your gear box this much, it’s time for a new one. This truck is as wallowed out as his ear lobes.
1 year later, it's still fine. 25,000 miles more than this video.
Thanks, but this is ridiculous.
sorry to bust you bub,.... bub this method is incorrect, will work for a lil while but will ultimately ruin the box.. ASE MASTER.
ASE is garbage to be honest. Almost a year later and it's still working fine. Throw that cert in the garbage where it belongs. My dad had them and he'll tell you it's all just a memorization game. It doesn't mean anything when you own your own business.
Go Steve, and never ever vote Democrat!
Lmao this idiot
Amen!!