Old vs New: 2017 Ford Raptor vs 2014 SVT Raptor Review: Which Truck Is Better?
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Thumbs up for the V8 raptor 👍👍😃
Thumbs down for the V6 raptor 👎👎😠
tommy hammond
AMEN
Yup he made the right choice.
I like the old one than new one or else, ... Im gonna lose hope
X2! I just threw on a supercharger and 3.0 fox shocks on my 2013. 600hp 500tq the new raptor can eat my dust. Plus old raptor still sounds and looks like a raptor not a ecoboost f150 with raptor badge and fancy grille lights lol
Truth is I love ecoboost f150’s they’re damn good trucks, and new raptor would be on my drive way if it had a v8 and the ford engineers didn’t focus on all the wrong things. People weren’t complaining about the raptor so why not leave it the hell alone throw in a lighter stronger body, offer a supercharged option, leave the transmission alone and don’t mess with the looks too much. Can I get an amen or am I just off here!? Lol
Nothin beats the sound of the old 6.2Lv8.
A 7.0 corvette motor lol
Who cares about sound!
@@richardjackson5670 I do, and alot of ppl im sure
@@sschevmale24 nah the 7.3 gas sounds better
@@richardjackson5670 what 80 percent of drivers do
Put a twin turbo on the 6.2 v8 and game over man. No replacement for displacement
Zoeth more than 900 hp.
F1 engines: Are we a joke to you?
game over to ur gear box, as 6R80 pretty weak.... welcome to burned clutch and destryed parts which will destroy ur transmission
I totally agree with Roman. There's still a place in the world and my heart for a V8 pickup. Hopefully they stay around well into the future.
Will B totally. The way we're going, V8s will be illegal some day. We should enjoy them while we can. Ford should have kept the v8 and put the Shelby gt350 setup with 6 speed manual for those seeking more power.
@@danielallocca7770 why would v8's ve illegal? Or was that sarcasm
Lol this comment did not age well
The new raptor looks amazing, sounds terrible. Give me the new model body with the old model powertrain.
New power train sucks. 10 speed trans spends half the time hunting gears. If you drove one you would know right away the 6 speed is way better for both on and off-road.
Joe Murcia 😂 your shallow pockets have brainwashed you. #LivingALie
can get the 1st gen raptor & just buy a gen 1 to gen 2 conversion kit than have someone install it
Besides for the v6 you can't hate the 2017 model
It also looks just like an F150 with a raptor badge. The previous raptor stood out from the f150’s
I always enjoy these classic style TFL comparisons. Thanks Roman.
"My brain says you should get this truck,
But my heart says, keep this one."
Roman--2017
I just picked up a 2011 Raptor SVT supercab last week. It has 50k miles, never been off road, always garages, and I Love the 6.2L V8. The previous and only other owner put in a flowmaster 40 and it growls beautifully. Looks brand new, feels brand new and I only spent 26k. New Raptors are ridiculously expensive...82k.
Team Mongoose that’s a good deal. Did you negotiate?
Any morning that I wake up with a notification to a new TFL truck video is a good day. Thank you, guys. I wish someone would sponsor you to build up your 6.2 with a supercharger or twin turbo setup and see how well that 3.5 holds up. Heck, I'd love to hear that v8 with a big, lumpy cam set and full exhaust, too. ;)
As someone who daily drove a 17’ scew cab, 802a package, flawless with an Afe magnum intake and an awesome corsa catback, I can tell you the 6.2 is the better truck. I traded in the 17’ on a 2014 scew cab with 113,000 miles versus the 17’ with 70000. The truck sounds better, it’s built better (steel), and is overall more cost effective and a hell of a lot more bad ass. If you’re a v8 truck lover like me, you’ll never regret finding a used 6.2. Not to mention that the engine is one of fords most brilliant works with reliability and the six speed transmission reliability.
I’ve seen nothing but bad reviews on the reliability of the 6.2 raptors 6 speed AT.
I have to agree. Even with the 2017 being better in so many ways I have to stick by the V8. It makes me wonder just how many sales they've lost from not having the V8 option. I know 2 people who bought the Power Wagon over the new Raptor specifically because of the V8. Thanks for the awesome content on your channel!
v8 sounds nice but its not as powerful and not good on gas
Good choice on keeping the old Raptor. If someone was in the market for a Raptor and has never owned one, then i'd say get the new one. If you currently own a '12+ then keep it. I look forward to more long term reviews and more Raptor rescues!
Great comparison video guys. Thanks!
In another 40 years our grandchildren will be laughing about our fuss of sound while driving a 1500 hp electric truck
In 40 years they won't be laughing unless they been allowed to
I don’t think irradiated piles of smoldering ash can laugh...
they won't be driving because cars will take you everywhere public transportation
And those trucks will be powered by puppy dog kisses and a hippy’s good intentions. Lol
Q Graham in 40 years they’ll have 1500 HP electric trucks, but we’ll have gas and diesel trucks that’ll smoke those electric trucks in a race
So who's phone is named iron dumpling? You can see it in the old raptors sync system. LOL. 😂
Texanminecrafter29 😂
Great video as always Roman. I hope that Ford offers the 6.2 in the new Raptor in the future.
17.4 mpg??? That's better than what many people get in non-Raptor F150s with their 3.5 twin turbos. What are you doing to get that?
I doubt that's it's actual life long mileage. In the video, you can see the mileage fall to 17.3 mpg with just a little bit of idling.
This new engine is badass. I was up to 18mpg in mine up until I hit 1000 miles, in which case I brought it down to 16.5 with lots of hard accelerations.
We get 20 plus on the highway with the 3.5s. Our 2.7 gets 24ish
Once upon a time I totally built a 96 F150 4x4 into what at that time would have been what Ford would have done to make a Raptor. The 2010-2014 trucks remind me of that build and if i were to buy one i would have a really hard time not to purchase one. However, the 2017 version is awesome very hard choice.
Good comparison. I thank you. It helped with my decision.
the exhaust sounds like Angry Honda
Jerry 0612 Angry Birds* 🐦
Jerry 0612 It sounds like one of those rubber rooster toys you can buy at spencers. xD
tommy hammond Have you been choking the chicken again? 🤛🐔💦😜😂
Don't worry, ford made an MP3 of a badass sounding engine, and saved it to the radio for you.
John G lol, no worries I can't afford one anyways
As a new time buyer I really want the newer Raptor. I totally get the feeling about the V8 and man that purr is seductive. I think if I had the older Raptor I probably would keep it longer as well. It's still so good that there is very little reason to change it for the newer one.
I'm looking at both.. 30k vs 70k makes it pretty easy, even though I have the money for the new. Hoovie kinda sold me on the old one too.
I wonder if the new Raptor will be the running chassis for the upcoming Bronco? I had a '94 Bronco Eddie Bauer edition and I still miss that big boy!
Speaking of towing, do you need to install airbags in the rear to protect the shocks from compression while towing?
Great video
Right choice Roman! Keep the v8, the winch would be a big factor as well, I think it's helped recover a few of your other off-road reviews :)
Chevys coming out with one. It's going to have 25 inch spinner wheels, low profile tires and a gold grill. It's going to be called the Chevy Rapper. 😜😂
cadillacphxful Hell, I seen them on an Anthony Bourdain episode last year when he visited Houston. Chevy going retro with spinners and purple drank. Pass the blunt, Pooky.
Troy Strain I'm pretty sure I've already seen one. 😂
Dude lame no one even says spinners
I feel the same way. When it comes time for me to up grade my truck, I am going with the first gen Raptor. Yes the new one is better but, you can not replace that V-8 rumble
THANK GOODNESS!!! I so had my fingers crossed and hoped that you would keep that old V8 Raptor... WOOHOO!!! I JustLOVE and prefer the mighty sound of a V8.
Well said.. Im planning on putting a 305 v8 on a little truck I own.. Getting that V6 out of there..
I highly dislike Ford, but I can agree with the choice of keeping the V8 over the Turbo6 and you can always add more power to it if you decide.
how are the new gm/ford 10 speed automatics doing? I love my 6 speed auto in my 2013 raptor....excellent transmission
If I get a truck like that in not looking for the most mpg
Xdzombiezz 12 + and 3 extra mpg is nothing.
I am lol
Well, one problem with the new Raptor not having a winch, you couldn't do any more Raptor Rescues! NNOOO! :(
Question: When you showed the new Raptor going down that steep hill and scraping the exhaust, can it climb that hill? You've shown the Power Wagon climbing some crazy-steep hills, but never show the other trucks climbing the same hills. Can they?
+F-150 KING OF TRUCKS New 66rfe and 68rfe transmissions are pretty reliable. Chrysler had many problems in the past but, no worse than Ford did with their junk E40D and 4R100. And really, I'll bet the 66rfe will be more reliable than that complicated 10 speed spring load clock that Ford is now using.
+F-150 KING OF TRUCKS "Great reviews" doesn't mean reliability. The ZF gets "great reviews" for its smoothness and smart shifts, but it's an unreliable POS for truck duty.
You can put a winch on the 2017. You'll have to get a intercooler relocation kit which moves it up into the grill/front of the radiator. easy peasy.
jedironin380 you could get a aftermarket winch bumper
I’m looking into getting a first gen raptor . I have 4 V8 vehicles at the moment and would love to get the 6.2 raptor soon . I just can find low miles one here in Colorado
V8 baby
I agree with you Roman.
Honest review and I love my V8, it’s got soul
Get a rousch supercharger kit for the blue one. Bring the power and torque up to around 600 for both
Can you guys do a race between a 2nd Gen Ford Lightning vs 1st Gen Raptor and 2nd Gen Raptor
I'm really surprised that all that extra electronics and two turbos only gives you an extra 3 mpg. I wonder if you drove it slower and in a higher gear on the highway if the mpg would shoot up drastically. I'm also curious about mpg from both of them when towing.
Put a Roush supercharger and exhaust on the old Raptor. Then compare and race the two.
I’ll volunteer mine! Whipple 2.9 supercharger, long tube headers, corsa exhaust. Sounds freakishly amazing under WOT while not scaring other drivers under normal driving.
Don't they make a Velociraptor?
willystov Hennessy does
Is the Gen 1 wider? Something about it’s look head on stands out even at a glance. The gen 2 I kinda have to do a double take to make sure it’s a raptor. I love both trucks tho.
You made the right choice Sir
The V8 sounds like a old muscle car. It’s just cool.
Plus, turbos can overheat and the ecoboost engine (as great as is it) has more parts and things going on.
V8 is simpler, been around longer, which means , statistically, a lower probability chance of engine or transmission issues. (Of course, the best vehicle is the one well maintained, no accidents etc etc)
And personally, I don’t like things like push start, and an aluminum frame. I want a real key Bc it’s way easier and cheaper to replace. I had to replace an 2011 Infiniti key for $300. And a guy had to come to my house to program it.
I want steel frame so my truck doesn’t get ripped up in a 10mph fender bender (watch steel vs aluminum f150 crash test video)
My steel framed 2014 FX4 V8 saved my life in a bad hit and run accident. Driver turned the wrong way down a one way and floored it straight at me. I barely dodged him and he hit the front corner, slid along the driver side, ripped off my back axle, the wheel and bumper. We walked away without a scratch thank god.
I’m now looking to replace it with another 2014 fx4 or raptor. V8 steel body is basically a reliable, off-road tank.
Just recently traded in my Gen 1 for a new Gen 2 Raptor. After 1500 miles, I can honestly say I wouldn't change a thing. The power and speed is unbelievable for a truck, all while getting 17+ mpg. Whereas my old raptor wouldn't do better than 11 mpg witb noticeably less power.
Cool reveal of the new Raptor as the older Raptor blazes past. Cool technique!
I got the Gen 1, because it is much beefier looking than the Gen 2. I am a fan of the Gen 1 since it's inception. They are both nice and anybody is a lucky duck to have one. But my heart is with the Gen 1 as well❤💯
In other words they don't have the budget to get the new one.
Why would they want one? The Eco boast is dead with the new EPA. Better to stick to a V-8.
Jay Trock true that!
Jay Trock What are you talking about. The v6 is a cleaner engine than the v8, and furthermore, the EPA is rolling back new regulations.
The new truck is _objectivly better_ in every single metric except exhaust note. And you have to have a mighty small penis to keep a truck just for that.
@@herranton i do
I agree I love my 2012!
cant lie the blue ford did sound better. to me at least. but i really want to see all that tech in a ranger. im not a ford guy but lets be honest. competition makes you better so lets watch ford and chevy or who ever keep competing for our effections. but we weed the rivalry
K. Tucker finally it’s happened. The 2019 Ranger Raptor
"This ones made of aluminum" as he knocks on Fiberglass. (Hood & fender)
I can understand why u chose to keep the svt
The new Raptor is not bulletproof like the old Raptor is. That’s the biggest issue. There are people out there still driving first gen Raptors with 300K miles on them with very little problems. I just don’t think the new version will fare as well.
on the new raptor what cab does it have to have to have the max towing compacity
should show us what the exhaust sounds like inside vs outside
I think the Reaper is Chevys version and competes with the Raptor but I dont know if they still make them or if they were only a special edition for a limited time.
The new Fox Shox are not just bigger, they have more zones (quintuple internal bypass vs. triple internal bypass).
Can't help but notice that the old one has a 6.2L badge and new one doesn't have a 3.5L badge. My SUV has a 3.5L badge but that's because it's not embarrassing on an SUV. The styling is nice in the new one, I'll give them that.
Mike Coffin that's a great observation. The martking team realized that was nothing to market for, the engineering team didn't.
It’s also why instead of him saying it sounds like garbage for a truck he instead said “it has its own unique sound” he’s nice
True
Yeah the TRD Pros and Powerwagon are kinda competitors, but what about the rebel and zr1/zr2?
Cobb the rebel is not even upgraded really. The zr1 and zr2 I'm not sure.
Wow, 69 views in 3 minutes in the middle of the night! Well done!
Its 13:25 (1:25 pm) here in Poland =)
Are they going to put a twin turbo 5.0l v8 in the raptor for 2018. That's the one I'll be getting. V8 ftw
The only thing letting down the 2017 truck is the engine choice.
I'm sure the 6.2 with the 10 speed auto would get similar MPG to the 3 5 Eco boost.
Still less MPG but way more durable and massively less complicated long-term.
That's why I'm looking for a 2013.
I think Romans summary is a very good point..like by most measurable ways the new is better but the old has that special X factor
They dont mention the rattle on startup ,and the weak oil pump pressure and the Cam Phasers failure and tune flaws on the 2018
Awesome comparison, I'll take one of each!
didnt they do this already ? this man LOVES ford lol.
sorry I'll keep my 2011V8 Raptor. still hold its value very very well and I don't have to worry about turbos going bad. it's got a great v8 sound not that weed wacker sound.
pilot steve hey man you still have it?
I'm glad you're keeping your blue raptor. The V8 omission is a mistake by ford.
Interesting if the old raptor V8 went in the aluminium/10 speed model, I think it would do much better!
V8 all the way!
What can you do in the new raptor that you cannot do in the old raptor (off-road)
The 2017 Ford F-150 Raptor is my dream 4WD 😍👌
Love the ecoboost but the 2018 5.0 should be an option
so awesome
I love this video ! I'm looking to buy the 2014 ford raptor or the RAM REBEL black edition 2017. It is a hard decision
rebel is better.
ZAN POLY the Raptor runs circles around the rebel. If you can find a good 2014, I'd buy it
Get the ford raptor best decision
I have to agree with this video. I love FORD and raptors, but the engine note of a V6 really kills it for me. If I had the money and means I would buy the 2017 and drop a v8 in it. That's the perfect truck. They should at least offer a limited run of v8s
the old one looks better than the new one. the only things i like of the new raptor are the cab and how the hood opens. they should of put the 6.2 in it. i wonder if the sound of the new 5.2 would go well with the raptor or a regular f150.
im glad you are keeping the old raptor its better
when your in the trails/mud/ possibility of getting stuck I'd rather take the simple v8 with extra room and less tech. also with the twins under the hood of the v6 all that boost its pushing to compete with v8 it can cause problems
Three more reasons to keep the old one: better departure angle, you have a winch, and you can get a longer long-term review out of it.
Keeping the old Raptor is a good choice for what it is used for. The winch placement problem on the new Raptor is the deal breaker for me. Also the overhangs and approach and departure angles seem worse in the new truck.
What looks noticeable is that it appears that the new Raptor has less ground clearance than the old one under the front skid plate. Is that true?
Does the new Raptor come with fake V-8 engine sounds?
yes
guy proulx Yeah, it got a penis reduction, went from 4" to 2". 🍆🥕 But, that's not the worst thing. The worst thing is the upfront price added to the cost to repair an overly complex V-6 and 10 speed transmission. Lease it and take it to the dessert and run the hell out of it.
Troy Strain I'll stick to my old Tundra till the wheels fall off
guy proulx Well, I'm certainly not going off road because of my back. My Tundra is 4x4, but an Urban package. These full size off-roaders have limited uses and I'm not a fan of any. The Raptor is way to wide for anything short of desert areas, the other full size have similar issues. Where I live they'll all be scratched to death from brush. In the mountains where I use to live, there's no way they are going on jeep trails for the same reason, they're too wide and long. That leaves desert running. Jeeps, LC, small pickups are way more versatile and fit in your garage. When Ford enters back in with the Ranger, will see a great deal of competition. We'll see what happens then. I'm sure the Taco will remain the best selling no matter what. Good times ahead for the midsize truck market ahead.
Troy Strain Yep i agree, i still have my old '89 for the tight trails and my old Tundra isn't as big as the newer ones and goes almost anywhere i need to go, smaller is always king off road
From this camera angle it looks like the old Raptor has more ground clearance up front. Is that true?
Looking at buying a 2014 but prices are insane! Does anyone know what a reasonable price is for a 70k mile super crew?
My two favorite Ford trucks.
When will the 7.3L be available in the new Raptor? 😝🤘
I can't believe I'm gonna say this but the new one sounds a bit nice
Bahahahahahaha!
Remember when ford trucks used to have V8's!!!
chris velasquez still do
chris velasquez ford is really gay nowadays
Yeah I know Chris!! Miss those days!!
Mine still does and I’m hanging in there until I see a raptor come back with a v8 and then maybe I’ll trade up
Miss those days
I would like to see the 6.2 with the ten speed vs the 3.5 ecoboost 10 speed. ecoboost would still win but it would be close. gearing already takes the old raptor out of the drag racing game.
It's smart too keep the 1st gen
Dealer showed me the 2018....with all the bells and whistles and I stopped when he clicked the buttons and the tailgate dropped down. He then took me to the 2014 and I was sold. I need a v8....and a regular non automated tailgate. And a cheap car note....under a grand ;) also I don’t need to replace turbos every few thousand miles
3,5L for a beast like the Raptor sounds a bit ridiculous to me!
if you do plan on replacing your long term raptor you should replace it with another v8 the ram power wagon. its more truck. and more expensive. but not by much
The new raptor sounds like a lawnmower
Douwe Kruizenga i wish my lawn mower sounded like that
hey can you guys offroad the Toyota FJ cruiser
the new raptor sounds amazing until you start it up :3
-why don't we just get smaller V8's? like the Buick/Rover 215 was?-
The second generation would be my all time favorite Raptor if they offered a V8 motor.
Haven't you people ever heard of the Syclone and Typhoon? V6 turbo trucks are nothing new. They were faster than V8 trucks back then, just as now.
I am referring to all the V6 haters here.
nice truck but my powerstroke 1996 is still running strong.