Gear Hack: QD MLOK MagPul Bipod
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- čas přidán 7. 05. 2021
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Here's the QD MLOK section: amzn.to/2NgASI7
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I've been looking all day trying to find a QD version and finally decided to look to see if I can find an adapter of some kind and glad I did.. Good stuff man going to be checking this out.
I'm glad! I hope this does what you need it to. After reading a few comments, you might want to check out both the 1 and 2 MLOK slot versions depending on your rail.
I don't know exactly...but I want to change from ar 15 and tc encore .
will your set up work for this..
I have brain injury it's hard for me to understand and make decisions thanks
I honestly don't know. I don't have a TC Encore and I don't know if they make a version with an MLOK section out front. If they do and that's what you have then it should. I will say I have gotten several comments about the short rail section I showed in this video coming off of some MLOK handguards. As a result, I now recommend the longer rail section that takes up 2 MLOK slots instead of the shorter one from this video. I'm sorry I couldn't give you a better answer but I hope this helps.
@@countryboyguns it's fine thanks
I like this tip since it provides a very clean rail when removed. Great video!
Thank you! I'm glad you liked it.
Sylvan arms makes a version of that adaptor about $20 cheaper. I looked at the Larue and ADM qd mounts but between one of those and the bipod you are looking at $200 and at that point you may as well pony up the couple extra bucks for an Atlas.
I've been looking for exactly this for a while! I was in the process of adding a picatinny section on the mlok then getting a qd picatinny to picatinny section for the bipod. But adding 2 layers of picatinny didn't feel right. I knew there was a better solution and thanks to you i finally found it.
I'm glad this helped you! I really wish MagPul would make a QD version that mounts directly to MLOK, but I've enjoyed this solution as well. Especially given the fact that good bipods are expensive, it's nice to be able to easily move them from one gun to another.
@@countryboyguns yeah they could at least make a QD picatinny one
That would be a great option too!
@@countryboyguns I finally got it and it's super solid, now i just need the bipod haha. Thanks again !
Too easy, man. I'm happy to help.
And it fits bipod perfectly! 👍🏾
Awesome just what I was looking for I didn’t want to permanently attach my bipod ,thanks .
You're very welcome! I'm glad the video helped.
Late to add, but what I have in mind like this is the MOE bipod for sling studs and use the kdg kinect with a sling stud. Low profile, light, and would come in around $150.
Hey there, just picked up and ar15 with Magpul furniture…looking to put on a Magpul bipod…but wanted something that was QD….this would definitely fit my build….thank you for your review…..have a great day from Montana.
Hey, Tye. Congratulations on the new AR! I'm glad the video helped you out with setting it up. Thank you for watching, and you have a great day as well!
Cheaper to get Harris/atlas sling mount version (Magpul moe bipod) if you don’t need the swivel and tilt. The Mlok sling mount with the moe bipod works great.
The info on thise mlok rail sections alone makes life easier thanks
Thanks for sharing. Many quality QDs solutions on the market also cost near an arm and leg.
You're welcome. And yeah, bipods in general are expensive...at least the good ones. I wouldn't say this is an inexpensive setup, but I really like it so far.
I personally like use the sling swivel mount for this reason. Sling stud mlock’d in place bipod easy on off and when off if never found the stud give me any issues getting caught on stuff or any hand placement issues. But that rail section is pretty neat you have there.
Thanks man. I really like this solution. I will say I've seen some comments that the KDG rail section will pop off if the bipod is pressed into a barrier of some kind or "under load." Not a problem I've seen during firing, but I've switched to using their 6 slot/2 MLOK section rail for the bipod as a precaution just in case.
I can second that sling swivel. Just got the magpul swivel mlock adapter and now my bipod can be swapped between my bolt gun and ar.
ROLL TIDE!!! Thanks for showing me this I've been looking for this exact solution for a while.
ROLL TIDE! You're very welcome, I hope it helps. I have had a couple of comments telling me that the rail section pops off their rail when the bipod is under load. I don't have a ton of different rails to test, but I wonder if it could be a spec issue on their particular rail or tolerance stacking. To be safe, you might want to try Kinetic's 6 slot (2 MLOK slot) qd rail section as well as the shorter version.
Thank you! The way it should have been made from day one!
Agreed! I will say some have made comments that the KDG section doesn't hold reliably when you load the bipod. I haven't had that problem yet, but the spec of the handguard might also be a factor. I recommend getting the 6 slot/2 MLOK section Kinect rail just in case.
Great hack my guy definitely will be get this set up
I'm glad you like it. I hope it serves you well!
If anyone is still looking for a quick detach, they have the Magpul QR Rail Grabber for the A.R.M.S. 17 style bipod now.
True, but at that price point for the two combined, you might as well go for an atlas or similar.
Good video man!!!! I have one of my magpul bipods apart I want the legs to lock at a 45 angle instead of up or down.
Thank you. That's interesting, I'd like to know how to accomplish that. Also, just so you know, I've gotten a lot of comments about the single MLOK section (shown in this video) popping off of rails when under load. It might not be a bad idea to look at the 2 MLOK section instead for this purpose.
@@countryboyguns thanks for the heads up
You just earned a subscriber with this one.
Awesome, thank you for that! I will say that some commentors have said they had issues with the single MLOK section adapter coming off their handguard under load. I'm not sure if it's a spec issue or some other factor, but as a result I'm now recommending the 2 MLOK slot version.
Awesome find. Thanks for sharing
You're very welcome. As I said to a previous commenter, I've gotten many comments on this video, some saying the solution works great and some saying that the Kinect rail pops off when the shooter leans into the bipod or (in 1 case) under recoil heavier than 5.56. I have only tested this on my 5.56 AR, and even then only briefly (this was with 2020 ammo prices after all), so maybe I missed a potential problem, but I haven't had those problems. Mine has only popped off once, and that was when placed at the very end of the handguard on my AR, with the gun propped up on the floor in my living room, pointing downward, with me leaning into (more like laying on) the stock as if I were about to shoot almost straight down. I believe it's a tolerance issue with some MLOK slots on some rails, but I'd like to do more testing to be sure. Until then, it's a potential issue that I do want people to be aware of.
Excellent, thank you!
You're welcome. I will say I've gotten lots of comments about the qd rail section popping off under load. I've only had that issue when I put the bipod on my floor, stood above the gun, and leaned into it, but it seems like it can be a thing based on the comments. Could be a spec issue with the handguard or the Kinect piece. Or both. But as of now, I'm recommending the 6 slot (2 MLOK slot Kinect rail for this rather than the shorter version shown in this video.
The amazon link for the QD Mlok no longer works! Would you have another link by any chance?
Excellent
Dude! Brilliant! Thank you!
I'm glad you found the video helpful! I will say I've gotten a few comments about the 1 MLOK section not holding on some viewers' handguards while under load. As a result, I'm now recommending the 2 MLOK/6 pic rail version of the adapter. Not sure if it's tolerance stacking, out of spec parts, or something else but something to be aware of.
@@countryboyguns If I have an M-Lok rail and M-Lok Magpul BiPod,, is there any way to QDize it?
Not that I know of. The only method I know about is to use a QD rail section like in this video.
Good Video very brief and to the point. Have you used this setup consistently? What caliber are you shooting (just to get an idea on the recoil) I found the Kinetic Website and in their Notice To Customers they specifically provide this **NOT RECOMMENDED FOR USE AS A BIPOD ATTACHMENT POINT! Due to loading into the Bipod, the Kinect system can disengage from recoil***.
Thank you. I haven't used it a ton, no and I also haven't used it with anything other than .223/5.56. Due to comments from other viewers and their experiences, I have been advocating for the 2 MLOK section/6 slot rail for more stability.
@@countryboyguns Thanks. Do you have a url for the 2 MLOK Section? I can't find that on their site.
Or, do you mean using two separate MLOK 3 Slots?
They actually make a larger version that takes 2 MLOK sections. Here's a link: amzn.to/42yyZIB
I have a knockoff that is solid. It won't support loading and recoil on my .308. Works fine on 5.56. Atlas bipod if it matters.
@@countryboygunsthat isnt worth 80 dollars thats absolutely insane for a a small mloc insert
Great to the point video
Thanks! I'm glad you liked it.
That's awesome. Much cheaper than a QD lever, almost by 1/2.
I'm glad you like the idea. Do be aware that I've gotten a few comments from people that the rail section has popped off their handguard when loading the bipod. I haven't had a problem when shooting it or testing it around the house, but it could be an issue depending on how close to spec your rail is.
@@countryboyguns Thanks for the heads up. I'm planning on using it on a MagPul MLOCK setup. If it doesn't work out I'll send it back. But I'll keep that in mind.
Please let us know how well (or not) it works for you. I'm really curious given the myriad of experiences viewers have shared.
@@countryboyguns Thank you, will do.
@@sterling18 how'd it work out?
Thanks Bud
Sure thing. I will say that I've gotten a few comments about the 1 MLOK/3 pic rail section not staying on some handguards when they're under load. I'm not sure why that is. As a result, I'm recommending the 2 MLOK/6 pic rail section instead.
Great video
Thank you. I'm glad you liked it.
Says they do recommend it on their website. I still might try it
I've gotten comments from some who say it doesn't hold when you press forward into the rifle with force (aka load the bipod). Could be any number of things. I switched to the 2 MLOK slot version for that reason. I've propped my rifle muzzle down on my floor and leaned heavily into it in that configuration and didn't have any issues. Sample size of 1 though.
Thanks
Of course. I will say these days I recommend the 2 MLOK slot version of this adapter due to comments I've gotten about the shorter version failing.
Genius bro I just grabbed that pic slot thanks
You're welcome. I have to point out that I've gotten a few comments about the short one (1 MLOK slot long) doesn't hold well under load. I'm recommending the 6 slot (2 MLOK slot long) rail as a result.
Cool solution
Thank you! I've gotten several comments that some people have had issues with the single MLOK/3 slot adapter won't stay on the handguard when the bipod is under load. Based on different handguard manufacturers and what not, I'm recommending the 2 MLOK/6 slot adapter instead now.
Thanks for the info. how much are those QD mounts?
You're very welcome. I'm not gonna lie, they're significantly more than your standard screw on MLOK section. Also, because I've gotten several comments from viewers who had issues with the single MLOK slot/3 pic rail slot mount not staying on their rails under load, I'm now recommending the 2 MLOK slot/6 pic rail slot mount for this application just in case your particular handguard doesn't have the same spec as mine.
Thank you sm
You're welcome!
It's been a year since the video posted what do you think about the QD mount now?
I honestly haven't had much of a chance to use it since. I've been too busy with lots of other things. Next time I go to the range I'll try to get some time on it.
KDG mentions using that to mount a bipod on is inadvisable due to loading the bipod, it may release itself under recoil. Did you have any issues so far?
I have not, but I've gotten comments from some saying they have. I've started recommending the 2 MLOK slot version as a result. Not sure if the issue was tolerance stacking, out of spec rail, out of spec Kinect section, or something else so I can't really pinpoint the issues others are having.
@@countryboyguns
I see. I did buy the 2 slot section myself because how the forward most slots on my 14.6" rail lined up with a rifle length gas system; I was concerned with gas block clearance with the kinect's hooks.
KDG did also mention the 2 slot (7 slot picatinny) is more secure than the single. I wonder why is that...
I'm no engineer so I can't say for sure, but I imagine it has something to do with the increased friction from more surface area as well as increased leverage from the longer rail section acting against a longer portion of the handguard. Just my unscientific opinion.
The lighting makes the furniture look ODG... I got excited because I wanted the bipod in Magpul ODG and Magpul gray which they don't make.
Sorry about that. I'm afraid I'm not the best at lighting...or editing, camera work, etc. Lol I guess the only thing I'm decent at is talking haha!
Also, there's always the rattle can option for color preference if you want.
@countryboyguns Have you had any more problems with this QD, or another solution? Unfortunately the 7 slot version is unavailable on nearly all web sites. the few that have them want double the price!
No I haven't, but I haven't used it a ton since. And unfortunately I also don't have another solution.
I have a M1A1 would this be better than a Harris Bipod?
I don't know about better. This setup was put together specifically because I wanted a QD MLOK option. If you don't have MLOK on your M1A, then this isn't going to work as I have it configured here.
If you go to Kinect website disclaims for 3 slot : **NOT RECOMMENDED FOR USE AS A BIPOD ATTACHMENT POINT! Due to loading into the Bipod, the Kinect system can disengage from recoil***
I don't think that disclaimer was there when I bought mine, but it was so long ago I honestly don't remember. That being said, due to the number of comments about that, I've been recommending the 2 MLOK section version to commenters for a while now.
@@countryboyguns It seems a general consensus on CZcams that if you go with the 3 slot (I mean the number of pics on the 1913 rail) Kinect mount, it will work in a pinch and is effective. I guess KDG may have done some hard testing and probably had some failures at some point, but I think moderate use you'll be fine.
Cool
I'm glad you think so! I will say I've gotten a few comments that this particular setup won't stay on all handguards when under load. As a result, I've been recommending the 6 slot/2 MLOK section Kinect section instead of the 3 slot/1 MLOK section shown here.
Tried this years ago with sylvan arms QD piece. Doesn’t work when applying proper forward pressure on the bipod for precision work. Don’t waste your time if you’re doing anything other than plinking on a static range.
I've seen similar comments. I haven't had a chance to test it, but I believe the 2 MLOK section Kinect rail might prevent that problem as long as your handguard is made to spec. Thank you for sharing your experiences so we can all benefit.
Hey man i picked up the exact bipod with the mlok qd attachment and seemed legit until i deployed it and the moment i load the bipod in either direction for a more stable position the mlok teeth open and the thing just falls off. Have you tried leaning “loading” the bipod and if so do i just have a out of spec part or maybe my rifle rail is?
I have loaded the bipod and haven't had any issues. What brand is your rail?
@@countryboygunsThe one i was testing was a 16 in free float palmetto
I don't have any experience with Palmetto rails. I recommend trying it on several MLOK slots on the rail. If it still has the same problem, try it on a slot on a different gun (either yours or a friend's) with either a different brand rail or something that's not an AR but has MLOK. If it still has the same problem, then contact Kinetic. Or you could start by contacting them and asking their customer service department if they've heard of similar issues. If I were a betting man, I'd guess it was more likely an out of spec rail than an out of spec QD picatinny section, but it honestly could be either. I've also tried the same setup on my Tavor with a Manticore Arms MLOK rail and didn't have any issues there.
@@countryboyguns yah i have the same feeling… i will try it on my nicer ballistic advantage gun
Please let me know how that goes. I'm really curious now, especially since the whole point of this is to be able to use this setup on multiple guns and not have to spend $150 or more on a bipod for each rifle.
Now, if only those jackasses at Magpul would make the bipod in OD green I'd buy one
Thank you. Just put this together today for myself.
pure gennis
Thank you. I have had some comments about the Kinect rail popping off when pushing into the bipod. Could be a bad rail section, could be an out of spec MLOK slot on the handguard, I honestly don't know. If you have that problem, I recommend trying this setup with the 6 slot (2 MLOK section) Kinect rail.
Hey, I have that shirt!
Lol I love that shirt. I happened to be wearing it when I met John and he came over to say hi when he saw it.
How much is QD rail?
I have a link in the description that will take you to the rail on Amazon. They currently have them for $49.99. You might be able to shop around and find it cheaper, but I can't post links to any gun accessory sites on CZcams.
Doesnt work. I tried this and it pops off from the recoil when bipod is attached to Kinect QD.
I didn't have that experience, but the only guns I have to test it on are 5.56. I've had a few comments that it pops off on some rails when put under a decent forward load. What caliber were you shooting and who makes the handguard (if it's an AR variant)?
@@countryboyguns SCAR 17s with KDG MREX MK2
First of all, kudos. I want a SCAR 17 so bad I can taste it. Second, Thank you for sharing your experience. Again, mine has only "popped off" when I propped it up, barrel down, on the floor in my living room in leaned into it, but I've only fired it on an AR with .223 ammo. I do believe it has more to do with MLOK section spec coupled with the normal variance in tolerance in the Kinect rail sections that exists with any modern manufactured part. That being said, I could be totally wrong. I wish I had access to more guns in more calibers that I could use this system with for further testing. If I do find myself in that position in the future (and if MagPul doesn't render the idea moot by introducing a QD MLOK version of this bipod before then) I will absolutely do a much more extensive test. Until then, I'll just apologize to you and the others with a similar experience and continue hoping that this is a relatively rare occurrence.
@@countryboyguns i analyzed the issue and its with the springs that come in the KDG Kinect, they arent stiff enough. I ordered some 3rd party springs and gana try switchin them out, otherwise just gana return the Kinect 🤙
Please let us know if the spring swap works and what springs you used.
That little Picatinny rail section is 77 bucks. No thanks lol
Not recommended for bipod on calibers greater than 5.56.
I haven't tested that personally, but I could see where that might be the case. What happened when you used this setup with larger calibers?
@@countryboyguns My personal experience is the bipod fell off my AR10 (while shooting). I took the QD pic rail apart to see if there was something wrong with it and realized the stepped rod in the middle doesn't seem to have any purpose even thought it's got a spring behind it. When I checked their website to see what it does I saw they don't recommend using these for calibers over 5.56.
Perhaps my hand guard is too thick (Aero Precision Atlas). I can grab the bipod legs and wrench this thing right off with no difficulty at all.
If you're not going to load up the bipod these things are very well made and work great otherwise. I have the 3 slot version which probably doesn't help either. I could see a longer one having a little more holding power...perhaps.
Now I have a bolt on segment of pic rail and am shopping for a QD pic riser.
Disclaimer: I'm no expert at anything related to firearms!!
Lol, I'm no expert either, so you're in good company. That's interesting, I've had other comments saying similar things about it popping off. I have a 2 MLOK section rail, so I might give that a try to see if the longer one makes a difference. I've only had it pop off once, and I was pushing it pretty hard with the barrel down on my floor. Aside from that, it hasn't ever budged on me. I do wonder if it's all due to some rails having different specs...
The problem is they want 54 Dollars for a very small pic rail.
Ur bipod didnt come off after a couple pf shots. I call BS. Ive tried this set up and it’s terrible! In the company’s defense it does say not to use the product this way on their website and theyre right!!
You're right. I've never had the issue, but I did recently talk to KDG at GunCon about this exact thing. That video will be coming out soon.