Cenk Uygur vs Dinesh D'Souza at Politicon 2016 FULL DEBATE

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  • Politicon debate between Cenk Uygur (The Young Turks) and Dinesh D'Souza on June 26, 2016. Moderated by Steven Olikara
    The controversial right wing author and filmmaker goes head to head with the progressive talk show host, debating a variety of issues facing America and the world.
    politicon.com/session/dinesh-d...

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  • @Vauksel
    @Vauksel Před 8 lety +266

    Cenk needs to learn that making ridiculous caricatures of people's arguments isn't an argument.

    • @SuperMan-jg9jn
      @SuperMan-jg9jn Před 8 lety +8

      That is kind of all he can do though.

    • @Vauksel
      @Vauksel Před 8 lety +9

      Super Man It's kind of infuriating, half the 'Debate' is just Cenk misrepresenting his opponent.

    • @SuperMan-jg9jn
      @SuperMan-jg9jn Před 8 lety +2

      I am not at all defending this turd. I was just pointing out that he really seems incapable of doing anything else. I don't know why I am even watching this. He is one of the most annoying people I have ever seen.

    • @Vauksel
      @Vauksel Před 8 lety +2

      Super Man Oh, sorry I wasn't trying to imply that you were defending Cenk or his position. I just had to express how frustrated I got watching this :/

    • @Vauksel
      @Vauksel Před 8 lety +4

      Super Man There are some absolutely incredible strawman arguments toward the end. I used to watch TYT regularly, I didn't always agree with them but I thought they made some reasonable points, Cenk seemed like he was trying to see things from the other side occasionally.
      I see increasingly fewer times where they conduct themselves with poise and integrity however. Instead their conduct has become worse and worse, driving away those of rational thought and as a result the only 'fans' they have left are the mindless drones Cenk referred to as the 'TYT Army'

  • @spamemail5856
    @spamemail5856 Před 5 lety +72

    When I first heard of the YoungTurks I was frightened because they have the name of the group that committed the Armenian genocide.

    • @jenna8987
      @jenna8987 Před 4 lety +6

      Yeah they are just communists that agree with killing over 600k, with unproprtionate black babies, babies a year.

  • @tristansim1052
    @tristansim1052 Před 4 lety +57

    Cenk: I don't read his (Dinesh's) books.
    Dinesh: You don't read them, but you talk about them.
    😆

    • @VanNguyen-dt6mo
      @VanNguyen-dt6mo Před 2 lety +1

      And then Cenk made the point you haven't watched all my shows, does that mean that you (Dinesh) can't comment on them or my positions? The obvious answer is one does not need to consume everything the other person has ever done in order to debate them especially when they are literally sharing a stage. How did you miss that?

    • @rje613
      @rje613 Před 2 lety

      @@VanNguyen-dt6mo The reason that's not a valid comparison is because Dinesh hasn't commented on his shows, that's his whole point. If Dinesh had been talking about Cenk's work, and was quoting it inaccurately, Cenk would have every right to call him out on it, but Dinesh is smart enough not to do that.
      Cenk tried to make an argument about Dinesh's book on Obama, by saying that it was pushing the racist stereotype of angry, raging black men, when if Cenk had actually read his book, he'd know that's not the case. Dinesh is saying that Cenk should've probably read the book, before making an entire argument based on the title of a book he'd not read. It's a valid criticism of Cenk, and a criticism that Dinesh is not guilty of.

  • @jwrsob
    @jwrsob Před 5 lety +87

    The weakest form of argument is sarcasm and ridicule...and this was all Cenk offered!!!

    • @postwar142
      @postwar142 Před 4 lety +6

      He uses alot of distraction and deflection too

    • @Brad5161
      @Brad5161 Před 4 lety +1

      Trite sayings are lame. Taking them as fact is dumb. Of course a fool and a liar wouldn't want to be clowned.

    • @johngreen1683
      @johngreen1683 Před 3 lety +1

      Amen.

    • @surreallife777
      @surreallife777 Před rokem +1

      You guys like Dinesh D’Souza?

    • @medmuscle
      @medmuscle Před rokem

      @@surreallife777 You are on the left? Are...are you kidding me???

  • @JasonLefevers
    @JasonLefevers Před 6 lety +47

    Cenk may be the worst debater I’ve ever seen.

    • @joeweaver1816
      @joeweaver1816 Před 6 lety +2

      Jason Lefevers really? You must have a limited pool than... He hit all the points and pointed out the facts to support. He even educated the audience before denish used some tactics. The way Danish can't see that conservatives and liberals have never changed, only the names Democrats and republicans is pure amazingness.

    • @pie0ful
      @pie0ful Před 6 lety

      You are a typical rich wing moron

    • @JasonLefevers
      @JasonLefevers Před 6 lety

      Thanks

    • @Nellsbells79
      @Nellsbells79 Před 6 lety

      Wendy Ganon wow that was a really well thought response.... well, more like incoherent, idiotic but hey you do support tyt.

    • @radicruel3721
      @radicruel3721 Před 5 lety

      @@joeweaver1816 I noticed you in like three of these comments defending your boy Chunky. Look, he is a terrible debater because you never rely on "mob rule" when you debate against someone. Not only does that make you look like a bitch, but it shows that you can use your own fans as weapons and shields. This is probably one of the top 5 rules when debating if not the top rule. However, since you seem to be a fan of Chunky, I'm really not surprised you weren't aware of that.

  • @mejw1
    @mejw1 Před 8 lety +88

    Cenk has lost all credibility!!!!

    • @andrewmanford
      @andrewmanford Před 8 lety +17

      6 years ago.

    • @mejw1
      @mejw1 Před 8 lety +4

      he has sold his soul to the devil AKA George Soros

    • @DreamSooner
      @DreamSooner Před 8 lety

      How exactly?

    • @mejw1
      @mejw1 Před 8 lety +2

      don't take my word for it. research it.

    • @jamesmeow3039
      @jamesmeow3039 Před 8 lety

      +mejw1 Any leader of Israel holds the mantle of devil, just look who's pulling George's strings....

  • @Evan8787
    @Evan8787 Před 5 lety +25

    Agree or disagree with Dinesh, he was polite and respectful throughout this debate. He has done a lot of research and it showed. Cenk, on the other hand, clearly hadn't done any research prior and I have suspicions he went into this debate with zero notes. It showed. Anytime Dinesh asked him a question in history Cenk dodged the question because he didn't know. Cenk kept spewing assumptions and repeating popular narratives but never backing it up with evidence. Dinesh was a true scholar, Cenk came off as someone who came into the debate trying to remember everything he learned in Grade 12 history class. This is why he was louder and reduced his arguments to personal attacks on Dinesh. He had no counter-argument so he tried to put Dinesh on the defensive by slandering him. The true Young Turks would not be proud of Cenk's behaviour.

    • @AM-cr5vk
      @AM-cr5vk Před 4 lety

      PowerfulPorpoise dinesh is the typical polite republican who is fine with carpet bombing middle eastern countries

  • @Mod0308
    @Mod0308 Před 4 lety +20

    I LITERALLY can’t watch this because Cenk ALWAYS sounds like a petulant child....it’s so grating.

    • @chrissh0485
      @chrissh0485 Před 4 lety

      Lizzie Luxe I’m assuming you think trump speaks like a leader ?

    • @Mod0308
      @Mod0308 Před 4 lety +2

      Christopher Hernandez I think Trump speaks like what he was elected for...a no nonsense Leader who doesn’t have time for bs. No more tippy toeing around serious issues that need to be addressed

    • @chrissh0485
      @chrissh0485 Před 4 lety

      Lizzie Luxe well don’t say such an ignorant comment when you are judging an attorney debating on a informal platform but say differently about the LEADER of our country which doesn’t act or have policies like one.

    • @chrissh0485
      @chrissh0485 Před 4 lety

      Lizzie Luxe also your response was so typical ... justifying trash doesn’t make it right.... it’s still trash at the end of the day

    • @Mod0308
      @Mod0308 Před 4 lety +4

      Christopher Hernandez I’ve watched hundreds of hours of Cenks young Turks videos...he’s a petulant child. He never presents facts, skirts around any questions asked of him or insults the people that actually do have thought provoking ideas. He’s an idiot...I don’t care what it says on his degree

  • @LazyFaux5656
    @LazyFaux5656 Před 8 lety +91

    Cenk, you had no argument so you insulted Mr. D'Souza's movie. Seriously, dude, you're a grown adult.... The hell is wrong with you?

    • @Nolanlvr
      @Nolanlvr Před 8 lety +2

      His movie IS shit!

    • @LazyFaux5656
      @LazyFaux5656 Před 8 lety +2

      Nolanlvr Have you actually seen the first one? It's actually not a bad watch.

    • @soupit32
      @soupit32 Před 8 lety +2

      +Dennis Walker Dave Rubin even quit to start his own awesome show!

    • @chrisfrank6625
      @chrisfrank6625 Před 8 lety +4

      that's how liberals do it, they are so open-minded that once someone disagrees with them they can't take it.

    • @soupit32
      @soupit32 Před 8 lety +1

      +soupit32 Got cut off there because I'm on mobile, my bad. But anyway, yeah, lately he has been collaborating with the likes of Mr. Yiannopoulos, and so you can watch him/listen to him at not only his own channel/show The Rubin Report, but also some recordings of the live events or on the weekly podcast of Milo's, or other similar-type places.
      P.S. As you may find out if you watch/listen to anything with Dave and Milo, Dave is indeed homosexual (and married actually) despite it not being obviously apparent at all really.
      ~ Cheers!

  • @gabehall06
    @gabehall06 Před 8 lety +85

    Cenk truly is cringe worthy. He has no idea what the concept of nuance is, and his arguments are so unsophisticated that it's truly embarrassing. This is like watching a high school freshman debate a college graduate student.

    • @gabehall06
      @gabehall06 Před 8 lety +11

      +u2good2b4gotn no, he argues the way a kid argues on the playground. Strawman, ad hominem, logical fallacy after logical fallacy. Any first year law student knows that these aren't legitimate forms of debate, but you average Joe's eat it up.

    • @elipeart
      @elipeart Před 8 lety +1

      +gabehall You don't have to be a first year law student to recognise incompetence and constant sidestepping. I barely finished high school but Cenk's incessant "see what he's trying to do here..." as a way of avoiding actually ANSWERING the question was blatant and plain obnoxious. "Let me 'expose' Dinesh's motive in asking the question, reframe it (all to give me more time to muster a coherent response), and then answer my own version of the question in such a way as to inspire cheers and applause for replies that wouldn't normally do much as merit acknowledgment..."
      Cenk did all conservatives a service in showing that his monstrous ego is backed only by baseless arrogance, not on any understanding of truth or reason.

    • @elipeart
      @elipeart Před 8 lety +1

      +u2good2b4gotn Presumptuous much? I didn't use Cenk as an opportunity to bash an entire political party, but you didn't hesitate to. Should I presume that because Cenk was unwilling to just directly answer ANY question that all liberals do the same? You know, the way you assume you know my political position on (everything?) because I objectively criticised this guy? Any opposition MUST be from a Republican because a liberal couldn't POSSIBLY be critical of someone in the same party... That says a lot about the way you view the democratics.
      You're unreasonable, assuming, and make factual statements that have no evidence whatsoever; you're worse than Cenk. You're accusing and self-righteous and you should learn the art of objectivity.
      I'm a Christian, conservative, I care about people, respect the Constitution, consistency, the facts & actual resolutions, and I don't immediately discount someone because of their political affiliation. And I don't support Trump.

    • @soupit32
      @soupit32 Před 8 lety +2

      +Eli Peart You should really support Trump because NOT supporting Trump is essentially a YES to supporting Hillary

    • @elipeart
      @elipeart Před 8 lety +1

      +soupit32 I understand that position, but I believe integrity and steadfastness in one's principles shouldn't be compromised. Of course no candidate will ever be perfect, but I don't believe Trump has been consistent enough in many of his positions to be trustworthy.

  • @BasedxGabriel
    @BasedxGabriel Před 4 lety +40

    Dinesh's book: It was a hot summer afternoon in India.
    Cenk: Hey dinesh, remember in your book when you said you wanted to napalm strike the citizens of India?

  • @ia6980
    @ia6980 Před 5 lety +18

    I dont know who Dinesh is, I dont know who Cenk is, but watching this debate, Cenk is obviously a bully, Dinesh is obviously genuine, when Cenk throws nasty slogans at Dinesh it just shows how low Cenk is, Cenk can you actually debate and not insult? Cenk should sign up for "insult shows" I cringe everytime Cenk throws insults...who in the world would ever want to hear Cenk talk ever again? I dont... Dinesh is genuine you can say it about him just by looking at his face and how he expresses himself. Dinesh won my vote

    • @Joshua-ch2ij
      @Joshua-ch2ij Před 5 lety

      Ig A dinesh is a conservative film maker

    • @VanNguyen-dt6mo
      @VanNguyen-dt6mo Před 2 lety

      Wow, Dinesh argues Obama doubled the debt. Cenk asked how do debts grow? Dinesh answers annual deficits. Cenk points out that Obama inherited a record deficit from Bush. Therefore why did the debt grow during the Obama years? Obviously because of the record deficit Obama inherited. Those are facts and logic, not an insult.

  • @BarrelShape
    @BarrelShape Před 7 lety +87

    LOL Cenk's best argument is "I brought TYT fans to this debate so they could cheer my applause lines"

    • @aim33b0t
      @aim33b0t Před 7 lety +11

      For real. It was so gross.

  • @JudoLover71
    @JudoLover71 Před 8 lety +93

    Cenk is CLEARLY not as intelligent as Dinesh!

    • @thesuicidegods8462
      @thesuicidegods8462 Před 8 lety

      u can write that again...let see if YOU are intelligent to get that

    • @JudoLover71
      @JudoLover71 Před 8 lety

      ***** Wow, in your profile pic, you look just like your mom.

    • @thesuicidegods8462
      @thesuicidegods8462 Před 8 lety +1

      Judo Lover
      don't know if true, i never knew my parents, they were killed, in plane crash many many years ago. so try something else
      .. was raised by monastery

    • @badasscheater
      @badasscheater Před 8 lety +1

      They probably committed told the pilot to crash the plane to end their misery at the knowledge that they were your parents.

    • @thesuicidegods8462
      @thesuicidegods8462 Před 8 lety +1

      Redrum
      c again, the education level of gop is amazing.
      pilot are usually guaranteed to die. I highly sugguest you to go to school

  • @jackbrooking4754
    @jackbrooking4754 Před 4 lety +24

    Cenk rants and raves and plays to crowd “GOOOOOGLE IT” and then when he’s met with an intellectual argument, he resorts to ad hominem attacks on Dinesh.

    • @Voicecolors
      @Voicecolors Před 4 lety

      Why are you even defending Dinesh? He's a criminal and a wife beater

    • @jackbrooking4754
      @jackbrooking4754 Před 4 lety +3

      Voicecolors I’m not. Just hating on Cenk the genocide denier.

    • @Makaylaandlilah
      @Makaylaandlilah Před 4 lety +1

      OF COURSEEEE

    • @jasonsilva9091
      @jasonsilva9091 Před 4 lety +1

      @@Voicecolors He is not a wife beater he was set up and if you didn't know that you have no room to talk

    • @Voicecolors
      @Voicecolors Před 4 lety

      @Jim myz LOL Facts are not ad hominem little boy ! Telling the truth is now an attack? Poor snowflake

  • @KenGarff321
    @KenGarff321 Před 4 lety +41

    52:00 that awkward moment when everyone in the room realizes just how childish Cenks arguments are...

    • @randommthrfkr6568
      @randommthrfkr6568 Před 2 lety

      Lmfaoooo you freaks lice in your reality right? You see what you wanna see right? Lol

    • @surreallife777
      @surreallife777 Před rokem

      Crack you’re smoking must be really good. Where’d you get it from?

    • @mvpschtraks5491
      @mvpschtraks5491 Před 4 měsíci

      It's hilarious how they just continue on

  • @sdean88888
    @sdean88888 Před 8 lety +115

    cenk totally got smashed by desuza with facts.

    • @jorgeherrera1074
      @jorgeherrera1074 Před 8 lety +9

      Funny thing (not actually funny) is that Cenk doesn't even understand that he did so horrible in this debate, nor do his "TYT army" :/

    • @captainobvious2487
      @captainobvious2487 Před 8 lety +8

      Cenk just tries to take personal shots cause he knows Dinesh is way more intelligent.

    • @samirsaweras231
      @samirsaweras231 Před 8 lety

      You've got it backwards. Look it up in recent history the last republican presidents all fucked up America. You may not like it but your guy got crushed. He gave examples while ignoring all other scenarios.

    • @sdean88888
      @sdean88888 Před 8 lety +8

      Samir Saweras last republican presidents was 8 years ago. if Bush's deficit was $500 billion/year is fucked up? what do you call obama's deficit $1000 billion/year? and cenk lied about $5 trillion surplus when clinton left office, it wasn't even close to $500 billion.
      cenk either is a liar or an ignorant fool.
      get your heard out of your jar.

    • @samirsaweras231
      @samirsaweras231 Před 8 lety +1

      Steven Dean Get your head out of your ass George W Bush started a pointless war and let the twin towers fall. He was the laziest/dumbest president in American history. The war in Iraq cost our country trillions.

  • @peach1389
    @peach1389 Před 8 lety +60

    Cenk "debates" like a complete child. One liners and half assed jokes don't hold any weight in a real debate looking for real solutions.

    • @jujuria13
      @jujuria13 Před 8 lety

      nope. Cenk gave hard hitting facts while that indian guy kept talking about debt

    • @isaacjones6323
      @isaacjones6323 Před 8 lety +2

      +Juju jujuria Dinesh D'souza absolutely DESTROYED him, what are you talking about?

    • @themagicman2010
      @themagicman2010 Před 8 lety +1

      +Juju jujuria Cenk had no sources for any of his claims, and avoided facts himself.

    • @JADiaz10
      @JADiaz10 Před 8 lety

      +Isaac Jones (Jonesizzle) How? Cenk looked at the facts with context and countered him every time. He had accurate facts on his side too. But with context to back it up. Sad so many people can't see that.

  • @brojitsu
    @brojitsu Před 4 lety +18

    Cenk is like the jock bullying the nerd. Instead of listening to the facts he covers them over with generalizations, all while continually trying to use the crowd as a source of legitimacy.

    • @zkilla2924
      @zkilla2924 Před 4 lety +1

      Jamie Phillips exactly. so juvenile

    • @AM-cr5vk
      @AM-cr5vk Před 4 lety

      Dinesh is completely trapped in the left vs right paradigm. He thinks attacking the Democratic Party is a solution. Cenk argues for morality today, regardless of party. People who fall into the left vs right paradigm are victims of propaganda 101. I think dinesh made some good points, but he’s never getting at legitimate, real solutions for today. He’s very out of touch. Cenk has no interest in arguing in favor of Hillary Clinton like dinesh assumes he would. His points about Obama doubling the national debt are especially egregious. Obama inherited control of the country right as Bush’s 8-year run ended when his policies led to a massive stock market crash. Obama isn’t perfect, but dinesh’s logic is just asinine.

    • @jp_03766
      @jp_03766 Před 4 lety

      @@AM-cr5vk Cenk literally never present evidence for his claims

  • @morganburkart3559
    @morganburkart3559 Před 5 lety +70

    Imagine being so unintelligent that you cheered for Cenk during this "debate." I almost feel bad they let someone so ill-prepared go up against a pro like Dinesh.

    • @tuffmoney9433
      @tuffmoney9433 Před 4 lety +1

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @stevebri9161
      @stevebri9161 Před 3 lety +1

      No need to feel bad. If cenk is dumb enough to go up against Dinesh then we get to entertain ourselves with watching him get destroyed

    • @damonknight2494
      @damonknight2494 Před 3 lety

      yeah these idiots are so close minded that it is scary

    • @gchild123
      @gchild123 Před 2 lety +2

      Cenk destroyed Dinesh.
      The funniest thing is Dinesh was making a movie about Hilary Clitton corruption and bribery while he just got out of prison for bribery and is on probation as he stands on that stage.
      Cenk is also alot smarter and has incredible loads of information and facts while Dinesh rebuttal with his terrible "logic" theory.

    • @m.s.u.footballboosterclubt6025
      @m.s.u.footballboosterclubt6025 Před 2 lety +2

      @@gchild123 8 months in jail and he wants to call somebody a crock

  • @americansupremacy1373
    @americansupremacy1373 Před 7 lety +117

    Chunk: its nice to have fans
    Souza: it's nice to have a brain

    • @DynamicoDesigns
      @DynamicoDesigns Před 7 lety +2

      Spot-on! 1,000% correct!

    • @mathewgodfrey1517
      @mathewgodfrey1517 Před 4 lety +1

      By the sound of it, Cenk had Home Team Advantage.
      Shame that not every team wins at home. 😂

    • @12markito
      @12markito Před 3 lety

      Cenk wiped D’Souza and you have the nerve to say that. 😂😂

    • @gchild123
      @gchild123 Před 2 lety

      Cenk destroyed Dinesh.
      The funniest thing is Dinesh was making a movie about Hilary Clitton corruption and bribery while he just got out of prison for bribery and is on probation as he stands on that stage.
      Cenk is also alot smarter and has incredible loads of information and facts while Dinesh rebuttal with his terrible "logic" theory.

  • @TheXxmadmanxxkkk
    @TheXxmadmanxxkkk Před 8 lety +65

    Cenk needs to become a intellectual before he can have debates. Right now he's on a subhuman level.

    • @AlexDeLarge1
      @AlexDeLarge1 Před 8 lety +1

      Wow, what a really great way to talk about another human being. Were you very popular in school?

    • @TheXxmadmanxxkkk
      @TheXxmadmanxxkkk Před 8 lety +8

      Well, mentioning someone's personal failures in a debate which has nothing to do with it is also not a great way to talk about another human being. But I guess if you're attacking a right winger it's OK? Learn to take criticism, you're taking yourself too seriously.

    • @TheXxmadmanxxkkk
      @TheXxmadmanxxkkk Před 8 lety +2

      I guess I won't ever be popular around pussies that only compliment each other, sorry.

    • @AlexDeLarge1
      @AlexDeLarge1 Před 8 lety +1

      It means he has no credibility in the first place. Anyone going into a debate with Dinesh D'Souza will beat him in credibility.

    • @GrothendiecksWish
      @GrothendiecksWish Před 8 lety +1

      Gotta read at least 1000 books before even trying to call yourself an intellectual.

  • @Squirrel44444
    @Squirrel44444 Před 4 lety +34

    This debate made me feel sick. Cenk was as rude as he could be constantly talking about how stupid Republicans are and avoiding answering many of the questions. If he could not answer he would revert to insults and yelling. That makes me sick. You cannot treat dinesh like he is stupid and then not answer the questions yourself.

    • @chrissh0485
      @chrissh0485 Před 4 lety +4

      Anneliese Martin it’s frustrating arguing with ignorance

  • @quartersamurai
    @quartersamurai Před 5 lety +29

    The reason Cenk has to get personal against his opponents is because he can’t substantiate an argument 🤷‍♂️ Change my mind

    • @tuffmoney9433
      @tuffmoney9433 Před 4 lety +1

      What Facts Did Dinesh Bring Is What I'm Still Puzzled About??

  • @purpandorange
    @purpandorange Před 8 lety +84

    Just like with Ann Coulter, Cenk got slaughtered, what a surprise.

    • @cameracam315rv
      @cameracam315rv Před 8 lety +7

      Cenk was an embarrassment to the debating world, he belongs on CZcams with all the other looney toon media

    • @purpandorange
      @purpandorange Před 8 lety

      ***** LOL excuse me? are you seriously trying to argue that Cenk won? HAHA what? Cenk had to make up arguments to respond to against Ann because he couldn't even respond to her actual arguments. You are insanely delusional.

    • @JohnSmith-nr8hn
      @JohnSmith-nr8hn Před 8 lety

      How?

    • @purpandorange
      @purpandorange Před 8 lety +3

      ***** No, that's what makes it so pathetic that Cenk lost to her

    • @cantbsdave
      @cantbsdave Před 8 lety

      +Tony S. I would have to state that you might be the troll. Cenk can't have an intelligent conversation. Ad hominem attacks is all he has in his rather week arsenal.

  • @AmericanHandgunner44
    @AmericanHandgunner44 Před 8 lety +123

    Cenk got his ass kicked on corporations and their rights. So he resorts to saying nobody watched the other guy's movies.

    • @AmericanHandgunner44
      @AmericanHandgunner44 Před 8 lety +5

      And saying he went to jail- all of this is irrelevant to the debate, and is why Cenk lost.

    • @AmericanHandgunner44
      @AmericanHandgunner44 Před 8 lety +12

      Cenk really just uses school bully tactics...

    • @tman229
      @tman229 Před 8 lety

      TheTyrial86 And who owns a company? A person. Which means that government agencies infiltrating a company is abusing the owner's rights just like if they infiltrate a owner's home. So again, why does a business need constitutional right and why doesn't someone such as a person's home have one?

    • @tman229
      @tman229 Před 8 lety

      TheTyrial86 What? You might of been confused about what I said because you just went off into a whole different argument.

    • @tman229
      @tman229 Před 8 lety +1

      TheTyrial86 Ok. I understood what you mean't. "No corporation is owned by a SMALL group of people." and then so on and so forth.
      Legal rights for a corporation is not the only answer to solve that issue. There could of been an regulation or inside corporation decision to have certain shareholders representing the corporation during legal deputes as well as internal decisions for which lawyers would be representing him/her during those types of dispute.

  • @frankcastle4779
    @frankcastle4779 Před 4 lety +17

    I think cenk s debating days are over after this and Ben Shapiro he has no idea how to debate. He slanders you and uses one liners but never gets into context of anything. Just like he said at the beginning “I brought them” meaning the crowd which means he’s relying on the crowds cheering but has nothing to say. Cenk is the worst person I’ve ever seen in any debate.

  • @pixelpipeline4297
    @pixelpipeline4297 Před 5 lety +12

    I now feel dumber listening to Cenk.

  • @StevenCrowder
    @StevenCrowder Před 8 lety +62

    I've already counted at least 8 accusations of "racism" from Cenk toward Dinesh thus far. Dinesh to Cenk... 0. This couldn't be more predictable.

    • @Kohdiferous
      @Kohdiferous Před 8 lety +5

      You should get Dinesh on your show!

    • @iRebels08
      @iRebels08 Před 8 lety +2

      Steven I would pay top dollar to see you destroy Cenk.

    • @jackattackfl8441
      @jackattackfl8441 Před 6 lety

      @stevencrowder what's up

    • @krunoslavkovacec1842
      @krunoslavkovacec1842 Před rokem +1

      Don't forget the angry caveman noises

    • @marcjones744
      @marcjones744 Před rokem

      Cenk is a bit left for me... But he is focusing on money in politics more than anyone... And that's issue number one...before all others in politics that we need to unite against. We can't get accurate representation in our politics for those other issues until we get money out.

  • @josephlucido3556
    @josephlucido3556 Před 8 lety +108

    Why did TYT post this? Cenk should be embarrassed.

    • @oolong2
      @oolong2 Před 8 lety +8

      You should be embarrassed for thinking that.

    • @josephlucido3556
      @josephlucido3556 Před 8 lety +9

      oolong2
      You should be embarrassed for thinking that I should be embarrassed for thinking that Cenk should be embarrassed.

    • @25home89
      @25home89 Před 8 lety

      +thesparitan it's just a silly meme

    • @maam8016
      @maam8016 Před 8 lety +1

      +oolong2 Cenk crushed DDS. These people must not have watched the whole debate, are 100% stupid, or are just simple-minded trolls. Poor DDS, he just couldn't get it. He even negates himself several times. There is NO comparison; Cenk won. #slamdunk

    • @25home89
      @25home89 Před 8 lety

      +Ma 'am personal attacks left and right from chunk and D'Souza lost?

  • @bengali481
    @bengali481 Před 4 lety +16

    Chunk is just a bully. In this contest of intelect, he was like the guy who brings a knife to a gun fight.

  • @72dew
    @72dew Před 3 lety +17

    Still waiting for Cenk to make an actual argument without reverting at ad hominems. Literally every sentence he said was an ad hominem

    • @enufots4621
      @enufots4621 Před 3 lety

      Click the replay button and watch as many times as necessary. Cenk responded to every diatribe Dinesh came out with, put everything into context, and then shut him down with the real facts, and when appropriate Cenk even explained how Dinesh is trying to misguide you.

  • @Eibli
    @Eibli Před 8 lety +102

    "When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." ~ Socrates
    I'm just saying....

    • @bullypulpit8715
      @bullypulpit8715 Před 8 lety +3

      I felt Cenk didn't want a real debate. He didn't want the truth and researched facts to come out so he distracted with childish retorts and pokes. Maybe he has the real truth of our convoluted history and it doesn't fit his narrative or he has confidence the audience has never been taught it so he blocks it from being heard. I don't understand why he can't just debate on the merits of the truth and the real happenings in our history with intellectual honesty and in full context. Hiding truth and manipulating the past is aiding to destroying our country. We can't make decisions without all the information in full and in truth. So disturbing and angering.

    • @IIIFrenchyIII
      @IIIFrenchyIII Před 8 lety

      awesome

    • @surreallife777
      @surreallife777 Před rokem +3

      @@bullypulpit8715. You like Dinesh D’Souza? It’s true isn’t it?

  • @xGreenHawk97x
    @xGreenHawk97x Před 8 lety +91

    Sorry Cenk, but yelling is not an argument.

    • @mre4321
      @mre4321 Před 8 lety +6

      Neither is your comment.

    • @xGreenHawk97x
      @xGreenHawk97x Před 8 lety +11

      +Mr E I'm not trying to argue, I'm making a claim.

    • @mre4321
      @mre4321 Před 8 lety

      Dennis Walker
      YOU BLASPHEMER! jkg. Lol!

    • @mre4321
      @mre4321 Před 8 lety

      Dennis Walker
      Lol.

    • @CWRardin
      @CWRardin Před 8 lety

      Truth

  • @ianstephens333
    @ianstephens333 Před 5 lety +14

    Blows my mind that Cenk actually compared Dinesh's illegal act to Hillary's corruption. Especially AFTER he said that Dinesh just made a stupid decision. And then he says that Dinesh is the last person that should comment on the corruption of Hillary Clinton because he spent time in Jail for INEPTITUDE!!! not for corruption. So, yes Cenk, Dinesh is completely justified in commenting and analyzing Clintons corruption.

    • @justamaninTN
      @justamaninTN Před 2 měsíci

      The point isn’t that Hillary isn’t a crook. It’s just ironic and hilarious that he spent time in jail for campaign finance violations, but calls someone else a crook.

  • @azandberg
    @azandberg Před 4 lety +12

    At least TYT have the honesty to keep this video up, because Cenk is just putrid, and even more intellectually dishonest than what I was prepared for.

  • @kpax45
    @kpax45 Před 8 lety +48

    I am not a concervative or Trump supporter, but Dinesh clearly won this debate and seems much more articulate and intelligent that Cenk. Cenk behaves in an obnoxious and immature way most of the debate.

    • @Ojja78
      @Ojja78 Před 8 lety

      I have to disagree. I think Cenk won the debate, hands down. Staying seemingly calm (which Dinesh didn't do, as he insulted Cenk on several occasions, as early in the debate as 17:40 and completely unprovoked I might add) isn't what wins you a debate, it's who counters the other person's points the best, and Cenk obviously did this better.

    • @ilanchico8375
      @ilanchico8375 Před 8 lety +4

      +Chris Eshleman his only counter were personal attacks 🤔🤔🤔 that's not a debate. He came across like a kid throwing a temper tantrum... The vast majority of people agree

    • @Ojja78
      @Ojja78 Před 8 lety

      ilan chico
      Where were the personal attacks? The only thing coming close was bringing up the hypocrisy of Dinesh calling Clinton a crook when he just served an 8 month sentence and is currently on probation for the next 5 years. He didn't personally attack Dinesh on any other occasion, and on this one, he was perfectly justified in doing so. You will, however, notice Dinesh call TYT watchers "goons" and call Cenk "stupid" on several occasions.

    • @ilanchico8375
      @ilanchico8375 Před 8 lety +7

      ummmmmmmmmmmmm I am unsure what debate you watched but it's there for anyone to see.. I won't debate over what took place in the debate when the video is literally right there... Cenk literally just keeps misrepresenting virtually everything dinesh says and then dinesh spends 5 minutes explanining how he is doing this... the same thing happens with sam harris and virtually everyone else cenk debates... He never actually says anything...

    • @emconitegamez5566
      @emconitegamez5566 Před 8 lety +2

      +Chris Eshleman how about the completely irrelevant point of bring up his divorce while he was trying to present facts

  • @trygvb
    @trygvb Před 8 lety +44

    Cenk should really just stop debating conservative intellectuals. He should stick to his progressive echo chamber show

    • @Goriaas
      @Goriaas Před 8 lety

      agree. They fare best with their young turds circlejerk

    • @trygvb
      @trygvb Před 7 lety

      Club Soda who's trying?

    • @trygvb
      @trygvb Před 7 lety

      Club Soda I don't think he's trying to have an actual discussion about policies. He's purposely changing the subject and making personal attacks in order to avoid getting trapped by Dinesh's arguments

  • @MM-ym8kk
    @MM-ym8kk Před 4 lety +23

    the amount of personal attacks? does cenk have no shame ?

  • @maryjane7983
    @maryjane7983 Před 4 lety +10

    Cenk is so disrespectful and full of contempt.

  • @marshallkamph9789
    @marshallkamph9789 Před 6 lety +68

    Cenk is the king of ad hominem and straw man arguments.

    • @u235u235u235
      @u235u235u235 Před 4 lety +1

      you're right, Cenk went ad hominem, over and over, so he loses by default.
      i agree with Cenk on most points which is upsetting because he has the superior arguments. odd he fail so horribly on ad hominem.

    • @arakai4
      @arakai4 Před 4 lety +1

      u235u235u235 which points would that be?

    • @frankwalker4428
      @frankwalker4428 Před 3 lety

      Can you name one ad hominem or straw man argument that Cenk made?
      And if you are going to reply with "lol your stupid!" instead of naming one becuase you can't, then don't reply.

    • @sadepennbrook
      @sadepennbrook Před 2 lety

      Aww, he Googled ad hominem because he saw in on Twitter. Now he’s “smart” guys. He showed Cenk.

    • @sadepennbrook
      @sadepennbrook Před 2 lety

      Goddang, can’t sound more like a tired cliche trite even if you tried harder!

  • @typhlosionmaster6832
    @typhlosionmaster6832 Před 8 lety +92

    I'm sorry, I have to call it like it is. Cenk is losing.

    • @typhlosionmaster6832
      @typhlosionmaster6832 Před 8 lety +2

      Aaaaand at about the 30 minute mark, D'nesh lost me. The Democratic Party of today isn't the same as the Democratic Party of then.

    • @julianalexander4525
      @julianalexander4525 Před 8 lety +6

      You sure about that? Different message, same goal. Just my opinion.

    • @typhlosionmaster6832
      @typhlosionmaster6832 Před 8 lety

      +julian alexander what is the goal?

    • @julianalexander4525
      @julianalexander4525 Před 8 lety +6

      Wario Racer Speaking broadly, taking over the country. Ending the constitution, and making it tyrannical.

    • @typhlosionmaster6832
      @typhlosionmaster6832 Před 8 lety +1

      +julian alexander I don't think the majority of the Democratic Party sets the things that you listed as "GOALS". I, as a liberal don't believe that myself. What I do think is that you believe that the IDEALS that the Democratic Party supports CAUSE the things that you listed. There is an extremely distinct difference between those two.

  • @Kelz_vee
    @Kelz_vee Před 4 lety +37

    Cenk uses alot of snide comments to mask not having a good point or argument, its actually quite annoying. He still does it to this day.

    • @medmuscle
      @medmuscle Před rokem

      Exactly. He speaks loud and says a lot of nothing and uses personal attacks. He is constantly using logical fallacies. But, then again, he is from the left. If you have no facts, that's the only way you can sound convincing.

  • @crazyxazian
    @crazyxazian Před 4 lety +36

    How can people follow and listen to somone this disrespectful. Cenk please watch your ownself and learn how to have a genuine debate without spreading hate. Dinesh thank you for your authenticity, you have earned my respect sir!

    • @user-hn7sg4vk6c
      @user-hn7sg4vk6c Před rokem +1

      What planet are you on? Dinesh says disrespectful things REGULARLY; he’s a very crafty and intellectual manipulator of the English language. He uses paradoxes, and cunning expressions with subliminal messages. One must listen closely to understand.

    • @surreallife777
      @surreallife777 Před rokem +1

      What are you smoking? Where do you get it from?

    • @medmuscle
      @medmuscle Před rokem

      @@user-hn7sg4vk6c Objectively incorrect. Cenk tried to bully the conversation and to use logical fallacies. The left have no facts. We can prove that right here.

  • @acaswell84
    @acaswell84 Před 8 lety +49

    Cenk is nuts, he doesn't listen or even seem to care about what Dinesh has said, he just creates his own narrative out of thin air.

    • @Superplatanoman
      @Superplatanoman Před 8 lety

      dinesh is a crook

    • @Julius1997.
      @Julius1997. Před 8 lety +3

      Leftists feelings are more important than reality

    • @acaswell84
      @acaswell84 Před 8 lety

      if by crook you mean he did something stupid and broke the law then yes, if by crook you mean he tried to corrupt the system for his own power and gain then no, because that's not what he did according to US law that he breached.

  • @cornelioMJr
    @cornelioMJr Před 8 lety +62

    This wasn't a debate. All cenk did was use personal attacks, and when the other guy would defend himself, cenk would just get louder. embarrassing

    • @caruzo9631
      @caruzo9631 Před 8 lety +8

      because he had to repeat himself over and over again since dinesh didn't get it

    • @Skinnymarks
      @Skinnymarks Před 8 lety +2

      It was too easy and it revealed dinesh rediculouseness

    • @BasedSif
      @BasedSif Před 8 lety +1

      I think you should watch the whole video. Your comment is premature and I can tell you didn't even watch the whole thing or listen to it. All you gotta do is plug it into your car and listen to it.

    • @MrTruam
      @MrTruam Před 8 lety +2

      I watched the whole debate. Cenk played all liberal/progressive slimy tactics. Yell racist/sexist/bigot/homophobe/xenophobe/islamophobe/top 1%/top 1%/top 1%... to win the argument by planting people in the crowd.

    • @deepakrao7203
      @deepakrao7203 Před 8 lety

      nelo agreed

  • @GhostsGraphics
    @GhostsGraphics Před 5 lety +16

    "cover the news fairly"
    -biggest lie of 2016 by cenk

  • @bconstantine1181
    @bconstantine1181 Před 5 lety +15

    Dinesh is the man! Dinesh, Shapiro & Crowder have all buried Cenk repeatedly. I don't understand why his ass keeps coming back to just get man handled over & over again.

    • @gchild123
      @gchild123 Před 2 lety

      Cenk destroyed Dinesh.
      The funniest thing is Dinesh was making a movie about Hilary Clitton corruption and bribery while he just got out of prison for bribery and is on probation as he stands on that stage.
      Cenk is also alot smarter and has incredible loads of information and facts while Dinesh rebuttal with his terrible "logic" theory.

  • @geologist1005
    @geologist1005 Před 8 lety +57

    Cenk was out of his league in this debate.

    • @GoodSteve123
      @GoodSteve123 Před 8 lety +1

      But Dinesh totally met him half way on a lot of topics. Right.

    • @booberry6715
      @booberry6715 Před 8 lety

      +GoodSteve123 So are you really Cenk, or do you simply suffer firm the same sort of stunted mental ability?

    • @GoodSteve123
      @GoodSteve123 Před 8 lety +1

      Boo Berry
      Yeah, we got the same thing. It's called common sense and logic. It's a real one-two punch. Very rare nowadays and untreatable. I'm not surprised you've never heard of it.

    • @booberry6715
      @booberry6715 Před 8 lety

      GoodSteve123 I'd say it's more like developmentally stunted and petulant, but you call it whatever you need to in order to feel better about yourself.
      All those characterizations you made above regarding Dinesh's positions are half-truths or outright lies. It's like you intentionally didn't even listen to what he was really saying.
      Like Cenk, you're a simple-minded ideologue.

    • @booberry6715
      @booberry6715 Před 8 lety

      GoodSteve123 *"He was trying to suggest that slavery worked out for black people in the end."* Listen to it again. He was discussing a point made by Mohammed Ali. I've also heard the same point made by African-Americans. I worked with a man that took a trip to the "Motherland." He cam back and literally told me to my face: "I'm so glad my ancestors were slaves. That place is miserable." Now does this translate into every single bleeding heart out there having the insight to understand or appreciate the position? Of course not. Some people simply thrive off of perpetual grievance.

  • @TuesdayMoney
    @TuesdayMoney Před 8 lety +100

    All Cenk tries to do is throw insults. He always embarrasses himself. I'm not sure how this guy still has fans.

    • @Chris63084
      @Chris63084 Před 8 lety +6

      You do need an argument, because no one will ever change their minds or come to other points of view without being exposed to new ideas and honestly comparing them to your own. Real dialogue is how people grow, not this insult throwing.

    • @adamling3710
      @adamling3710 Před 8 lety +4

      +dimo s dinesh is stating facts cenk doesn't like to mention.

    • @adamling3710
      @adamling3710 Před 8 lety +6

      ***** it is also a fact that cenk is a fat baby when he is faced with facts and a great debater.
      Dinesh was right, it's not all about what happened, it's about justice and about fair punishment. Democrats have done much worse, like slavery, KKK, and much worse corruption.

    • @TuesdayMoney
      @TuesdayMoney Před 8 lety +1

      ***** Excuse you but you are dead wrong. All the Dixiecrats stayed democrat and died democrats. The only one who actually switched was Strom Thurmond and he ended up making black appointments. Nixon was the only president who actually enforced Brown v. Board. So please stop with the revisionist history. Republicans didn't go from 100 years of supporting civil rights and freeing the slaves to racists. Dems like to whitewash and recreate this fantasy that absolves them from taking responsibility - they are the same today as they were back then.
      0 evidence. 0 proof. 0 logic.

    • @TuesdayMoney
      @TuesdayMoney Před 8 lety +3

      ***** 0 proof. All you have are your accusations and your own inner hatred. You think everyone is a racist because YOU are the racist.

  • @jencayce1552
    @jencayce1552 Před 5 lety +18

    Crank perfectly demonstrated how to evade answering questions, while simultaneously projecting onto his debate partner. It reminded me of how Dinesh is a gentleman and Cenk, not so much.

    • @jencayce1552
      @jencayce1552 Před 5 lety +3

      Cenk also demonstrate Transference, it shows when he recalls our American history and states, “because we did it!!!” Not one country has a spotless historical record. Cenk has cherry picked facts to misrepresent and then holds onto the veracity of his interpretive facts as if they decided law.

  • @Satheesh-Catholic
    @Satheesh-Catholic Před 5 lety +15

    I found this debate posted on Dinesh’s channel and I scrolled down to read the comments. Almost all comments were against this Cenk guy. Then, I found that the same debate has been posted on TYT channel too. So I came in here and glanced over the comment just to get a perspective. But here too, this Cenk guy is roasted. And that told me a lot. Then, I started watching the video and within minutes, I found why this guy got so many bad feedbacks. Really, this guy is so irritating. He is so shameless in throwing ad hominem continuously at a debate. He didn’t even care to be legally correct about the charge which Dinesh went to jail for. Like a boy, he just throws charges like “corruption” and “bribery.” How ugly and disgusting and dishonest he is!!??

    • @MUSICLVR70
      @MUSICLVR70 Před 4 lety

      I did the same! Came here for a different perspective. Cenk must be truly what both channels claim him to be.

  • @alexschmidt5612
    @alexschmidt5612 Před 7 lety +55

    Cenk resorts to personal insults as he has no real arguments.

    • @stephenjoiner3738
      @stephenjoiner3738 Před 7 lety +1

      Sounded to me like he had some excellent arguments.

    • @seanloughrey5732
      @seanloughrey5732 Před 7 lety +2

      All of cenks arguments are idiotic he can't back up anything he says with real facts just like every other liberal goon

    • @Imfphas20
      @Imfphas20 Před 7 lety +2

      He does make some competent arguments at some points, but is entirely disingenuous and crass when facts or questions lean even slightly out of his favor.

    • @allosengin2974
      @allosengin2974 Před 7 lety

      +Imfphas20
      Like what argument?

  • @SilentSputnik
    @SilentSputnik Před 6 lety +39

    It's very honourable that TYT didn't take down this embarrassment of a video. If you honestly think that Cenk won this debate, please remove yourself from the gene pool.

    • @ycc8581
      @ycc8581 Před 6 lety +2

      SilentSputnik strong words in support of a delinquent, don't you think?

    • @Colin22
      @Colin22 Před 6 lety +5

      Cenk destroyed Dinesh on almost every topic. Dinesh was incoherent.

    • @joeweaver1816
      @joeweaver1816 Před 6 lety +5

      I saw denish dance around every single topic, set up cenk with "gotcha" questions then fail anyways, and switch topics mid sentence because cenk said something or shifted his body posture. Your boy got whooped.

    • @Nellsbells79
      @Nellsbells79 Před 6 lety +8

      SilentSputnik looks like you were right by the replies given. Let’s hope they don’t reproduce.

  • @9sunskungfu
    @9sunskungfu Před 5 lety +29

    Cenk you got owned.

  • @miguelmartins4703
    @miguelmartins4703 Před 4 lety +37

    I love the fact that Cenk is getting destroyed in the comment section of his own channel.

    • @JohnnyBorrelli
      @JohnnyBorrelli Před 4 lety

      Miguel Martins and the fact that every time Cenk is losing he comes up with a personal attack.

    • @JohnAC4
      @JohnAC4 Před 4 lety +2

      Johnny Borrelli yeah I mean they did start that before on Twitter, but when it comes to a debate where people are actually spending money to attend (at least I’m assuming, I’ve never been to politicon) it’s time to put the insults way for both of them but more specifically Cenk, you can say whatever u want to someone behind a screen. But when you are debating issues, especially in an election year, it’s more important to have a debate instead of a rap battle

    • @10003159
      @10003159 Před 3 lety +1

      Well the conservatards found this video

    • @BLUDDYknucklez
      @BLUDDYknucklez Před 2 lety

      Watch from 33:53 and listen very very carefully and you will learn and see how Dinesh and right-wing talking points get demolished over and over again like a teacher admonishing a child.

  • @JudoLover71
    @JudoLover71 Před 8 lety +64

    Dinesh kicked Cenks ass! Hands down!

    • @shortlimb1
      @shortlimb1 Před 8 lety +3

      ? much like logic kicked yours?

    • @JudoLover71
      @JudoLover71 Před 8 lety +2

      Short Limb Change the second part of your name to brain.

    • @shortlimb1
      @shortlimb1 Před 8 lety

      Judo Lover said the guy w/o one. pfft you're too easy, you bore!

    • @JudoLover71
      @JudoLover71 Před 8 lety +1

      Short Limb Well I was going to say change the second part of your name to pee-pee, but I was trying to be nice.

    • @shortlimb1
      @shortlimb1 Před 8 lety +1

      Judo Lover that's funny cos it actually means big dick, hence short limb haaaahahahaha
      what's also funny is that you guys swear buy tiny 'hands' trump!
      what else ya got Dinesh fan!
      it seems like I'm taking Cenk's role here! haaahahahaha

  • @Ancor3
    @Ancor3 Před 8 lety +53

    D'Souza already lost the debate in the opening. India was governed by socialists? The not so smart and lazy guy has two cars and a nice house, wtf??? He is so devoid of reality it's almost funny. Almost.

    • @changeittowumbo8399
      @changeittowumbo8399 Před 8 lety +1

      +Chancho Bandito have you seen India? lmaoo that's far from a socialist country.

    • @Ancor3
      @Ancor3 Před 8 lety

      *****
      Not sure if sarcasm or genuine ignorance.

    • @BasedSif
      @BasedSif Před 8 lety

      +Change it to wumbo yeah, also not to mention do we really even know if the facts of India are true? I haven't seen India from anything other than Bollywood. It looks nice? XP

    • @MrTruam
      @MrTruam Před 8 lety +2

      Yes, India was mostly ruled by a socialist party since its independence in 1947. The party is INC. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_National_Congress

    • @Ancor3
      @Ancor3 Před 8 lety +1

      MrTruam
      Given the results of the Indian National Congress, I think I can safely conclude that it's socialist in the same way the Communist Party of China upholds communist principles (it doesn't).

  • @williambailey442
    @williambailey442 Před 2 lety +22

    One comment for every hundred is in support of Cenk... And this is his own CZcams channel 💀

    • @randommthrfkr6568
      @randommthrfkr6568 Před 2 lety +1

      Because they're bots and your extremely easy to manipulate lol wow

    • @rje613
      @rje613 Před 2 lety +1

      @@randommthrfkr6568 By your astounding logic, when 99% of people think one way and 1% think otherwise, the 1% is right, and the 99% is comprised of stupid, unintelligent morons who just follow their leader. Have you ever considered that when everyone is telling you that you're wrong, that you might be just that, wrong? Based on your comments throughout the section, it looks like you're in a complete state of denial. You can't bare that someone disagress with you politically, so you're crawling through all the comments that say Cenk lost (which is almost every comment) and telling them that they're stupid. That's really immature of you.

    • @randommthrfkr6568
      @randommthrfkr6568 Před 2 lety +1

      @@rje613 constantly in the wrong side of history and somehow you freaks think you have the right to call out the left out in anything? Get over yourselves

    • @alexmason8557
      @alexmason8557 Před 2 lety +1

      @@randommthrfkr6568 what ever dont upset your weak mind. Don't loose sleep over it.

    • @randommthrfkr6568
      @randommthrfkr6568 Před 2 lety

      @@alexmason8557 im actually not, that pathetic response did not address the issue whatsoever. The only ones who get upset are you freaks, everytime you don't get your way you'll shoot up a school or some public place because your not getting the attention you needed.

  • @artecona
    @artecona Před 5 lety +35

    Wow this YoungTurks guy is not so bright. It's painful to listen to him.

  • @SergioLeRoux
    @SergioLeRoux Před 8 lety +129

    Cenk: "Nobody disputes this except you!"
    Dinesh: "That's not true! I dispute it!"

    • @ZVPieGuy
      @ZVPieGuy Před 8 lety +7

      I lost it when he said that 😂

    • @joeheinz3494
      @joeheinz3494 Před 8 lety +3

      😂😂😂

    • @loganmazer3716
      @loganmazer3716 Před 8 lety +1

      Ikr that was hilarious XDXD

    • @SergioLeRoux
      @SergioLeRoux Před 8 lety +3

      Yes, we shall make the Internet Great Again. We don't win enough internets anymore. We're going to stop losing internets, and start winning.

    • @alejandroespinosa1767
      @alejandroespinosa1767 Před 8 lety +1

      He was stumbling mumbling and shaking. That's when you know that HE knows he's getting annihilated........ Dinesh is one of those right wingers that you can plainly see he actually does not believe in his heart of hearts his views are right.

  • @Sinnessa
    @Sinnessa Před 8 lety +77

    You could literally get any random person on the street, without preparation, without knowing the issues up front, and they would win in a debate against Dinesh D'Souza. In fact, you could have D'Souza debating against an empty chair and D'Souza would lose.

  • @jherydpatterson3855
    @jherydpatterson3855 Před 3 lety +26

    Cenk’s entire debate philosophy is “appeal to the crowd and slander your opponent”

    • @gchild123
      @gchild123 Před 2 lety

      Cenk destroyed Dinesh.
      The funniest thing is Dinesh was making a movie about Hilary Clitton corruption and bribery while he just got out of prison for bribery and is on probation as he stands on that stage.
      Cenk is also alot smarter and has incredible loads of information and facts while Dinesh rebuttal with his terrible "logic" theory.

  • @strausszahard9251
    @strausszahard9251 Před 5 lety +34

    Without the audience...Cenk would have CRIED...LITERALLY

    • @MK2EA
      @MK2EA Před 3 lety

      Even with the crowd he looks like hes going to break down at any second.

  • @jwill1215
    @jwill1215 Před 7 lety +23

    Cenk is the weakest debater ever. So weak it's actually amusing.

  • @ASMRShalom
    @ASMRShalom Před 8 lety +63

    Condescension and pointing to his zombies for feedback, is not how you win a debate. Dinesh wins this hands down. And, hey Chunk, I'm black and I'm proud to be an American. Right now in Africa - I could be the victim of a 20 year famine, or inter-tribal warfare, or fighting a lion for my food. Instead I'm producing a TV show and I'm writing movies from a great apartment in Texas.

    • @AlexDeLarge1
      @AlexDeLarge1 Před 8 lety +3

      So you are a self-hating, slavery and Jim Crow apologist. Nice. I can see why Republicans and the right wing are so appealing to you. You just hate yourself and generalize blacks just as much as any white racist. You yourself are a racist.

    • @TheXxmadmanxxkkk
      @TheXxmadmanxxkkk Před 8 lety +2

      TRIGGERED

    • @TheXxmadmanxxkkk
      @TheXxmadmanxxkkk Před 8 lety +5

      I'm sorry mister SJW, you have just generalized against black people and republicans. Also, it seems that you got triggered because this black person doesn't fit your victim projection. Also, what makes you the authority on saying who is racist and who is not?

    • @ASMRShalom
      @ASMRShalom Před 8 lety +5

      Furthermore, since I read and know my rights, and know how to work the system, instead of murmuring something about "systematic oppression of melanated peoples", I THRIVE in it. Shove that black fist medallion and your BLM t-shirt square up your ass.

    • @TheXxmadmanxxkkk
      @TheXxmadmanxxkkk Před 8 lety

      jaguilar7643 That is a moral argument and it actually makes no sense. You're overflowing with white guilt, it's not healthy. I suggest you research your cause before you attack people and show everyone how stupid you really are. But saying that you agree with Cenk the primate tells a lot already.

  • @krad1363
    @krad1363 Před 5 lety +15

    I wish Cenk would cool it with the sarcastic tone and senseless mocking. It made everything he said sound like rhetoric.

  • @sierragreen
    @sierragreen Před 3 lety +13

    Cenk doesn't have the maturity or intelligence to engage in a real debate.

    • @enufots4621
      @enufots4621 Před 3 lety

      Are you kidding, Cenk responded to every diatribe Dinesh came out with, put everything into context, and then shut him down with the real facts, and when appropriate Cenk even explained how Dinesh is trying to misguide you.
      Yes, Cenk method was strong but Dinesh’s attempt with his propaganda is part of the problem our nation is in today.

  • @joshnatalina4107
    @joshnatalina4107 Před 8 lety +16

    Honestly, Dinesh and the moderator should have apologized to the audience on behalf of Cenk. Literally HALF this debate is Cenk accusing Dinesh of being a racist idiot and thus Dinesh has to result to defending himself. This debate accomplished absolutely nothing except for Cenk displaying he has absolutely no debate skills or intellectual honesty and must belittle his opponents arguments through misrepresentations, straw-mans, and empty character attacks. Disgraceful. Cenk should submit a formal apology.

  • @donde2k
    @donde2k Před 8 lety +52

    If it were't for ad hominem and straw man arguments, Cenk would've been mute the whole time.

    • @Stonefallow
      @Stonefallow Před 8 lety +2

      That's just untrue. Can we please actually talk about the merits of the debate? Instead of criticizing Cenk's presentation?

    • @thebullybuffalo
      @thebullybuffalo Před 8 lety

      +Mr. Stonefallow No because treating others with respect is more important than talking about what treating others with respect means in society

    • @Stonefallow
      @Stonefallow Před 8 lety

      thebullybuffalo That did not make any sense in the context of my post. I said let's talk about the merits of the debate, I didn't say let's talk about what respect means. Are you trying to say that Cenk's lack of respect is more important then the actual arguments in the debate?

    • @thebullybuffalo
      @thebullybuffalo Před 8 lety

      Mr. Stonefallow​ Depends what the argument is about but that's clearly not what my comment said. My comment meant that a conversation about social injustice is meaningless when the person arguing his point is treating others badly. 

    • @Stonefallow
      @Stonefallow Před 8 lety

      thebullybuffalo I disagree. Cenk is free to be a douchebag, that is his right as an individual. The debate is about political freedoms/restrictions that should exist within the government. I suppose in some grander sense, being a dick is a social injustice, but are you really going to use that as a deflection of real substantive discussion? It seems to me that you are also violating the spirit of ending social injustice.

  • @17clareyd
    @17clareyd Před 4 lety +35

    Pro tip any time Cenk says oh golly gee he is completely wrong and caught in a trap

    • @honestabe6926
      @honestabe6926 Před 4 lety +4

      I thought liberals were supposed to be young and hip, especially a group called "The Young Turks", but their vocabulary consists of "google it" and "golly gee".

  • @mathewgodfrey1517
    @mathewgodfrey1517 Před 4 lety +30

    Dinesh brought facts to this debate.
    Cenk brought people who agree with him.

    • @gchild123
      @gchild123 Před 2 lety +1

      Cenk destroyed Dinesh.
      The funniest thing is Dinesh was making a movie about Hilary Clitton corruption and bribery while he just got out of prison for bribery and is on probation as he stands on that stage.
      Cenk is also alot smarter and has incredible loads of information and facts while Dinesh rebuttal with his terrible "logic" theory.

  • @JimBarnetts1
    @JimBarnetts1 Před 8 lety +50

    I honestly can't believe anyone actually follows Cenk, he literally argues like a child. Name calling, straw man arguments and absurd statements it's all right there (if you can stomach listening to him for more than a minute).

    • @3000kristian
      @3000kristian Před 8 lety +4

      Nice job mentioning specifics! And also both sides did namecalling.

    • @JimBarnetts1
      @JimBarnetts1 Před 8 lety +7

      Actually no, Mr. D'Souza did not resort to name calling.

    • @blakesun
      @blakesun Před 8 lety

      Cenk goes after Dinesh and Ann Coulter with their own medicine but I agree it's not the best way to win arguments.

    • @JimBarnetts1
      @JimBarnetts1 Před 8 lety +6

      You haven't watched, read or listened to much of Ms. Coulter or Mr. D'Souza have you? If you did you never would have made that comment. They don't argue anything like Cenk, it's literally night and day between them. They use facts throughly researched, Cenk uses shiny objects and slander.

    • @blakesun
      @blakesun Před 8 lety +3

      If you don't think Ann Coulter uses personal attacks against her opponents in debates I don't know what to say to you...

  • @jonnjakesonn602
    @jonnjakesonn602 Před 5 lety +46

    Cenk, you got steamrolled on literally every topic aside from who's more popular

  • @cv-broker9925
    @cv-broker9925 Před 5 lety +16

    My politics has been on the left for the most part, not the radical left but I considered myself a liberal. I became a fan of Dinesh after watching this debate. I may not agree with everything he says but I respect the way he presents his argument based on facts that can be verified. For example, I didn't know till today that of all the "dixiecrats" in the south, only 3 left the party to convert to the GOP after the Civil Rights Act was passed. I don't think Cenk knows this fact. His style of debating is to shout, insult, sarcasm and very unprofessional.

    • @laurenbeaman766
      @laurenbeaman766 Před 4 lety +1

      I too was on the left and currently am an Independent. I never knew much about the young Turks or heard this guy Cenk. I watched this debate only because I have huge respect for Dinesh. This guy Cenk was an embarrassment from the first time he opened his mouth. He’s no match for Dinesh so he has to resort to attacking Dinesh by being crude, loud, disrespectful to both Dinesh and all in attendance. I’m tired of listening to extreme progressive rhetoric and broad generalizations vs. intelligent debate.

    • @FM-dm8xj
      @FM-dm8xj Před rokem

      only 2 i believe.

  • @jamorroni
    @jamorroni Před 5 lety +13

    Hey cenk, way to debate like a 4 year old.

  • @briskzeus8312
    @briskzeus8312 Před 8 lety +67

    All around, Cenk got destroyed by Dinesh

    • @gavtronics
      @gavtronics Před 8 lety +34

      How opinionated and yet vague of you.

    • @briskzeus8312
      @briskzeus8312 Před 8 lety +5

      In the mind of a Liberal like you everything is vague.

    • @badbizza1
      @badbizza1 Před 8 lety +4

      How😕

    • @gavtronics
      @gavtronics Před 8 lety +10

      Brisk Zeus How condescending.

    • @theheat510
      @theheat510 Před 8 lety +2

      Care to explain how

  • @tor1nd
    @tor1nd Před 8 lety +51

    Wow this Cenk guy is dangerous!! His argument about debt and deficit clearly shows that he has no understanding of the difference between debt and deficit. The fact that debt is now double that of 8 years ago clearly shows that whoever was in charge during the past 8 years had lost control of the budget and has overspent the country's money, thus bringing the debt up by over 100%. And deficit is totally within the control of the person-in-charge in those 8 years.

    • @BrunoCCoutinho
      @BrunoCCoutinho Před 8 lety +5

      Do you know the difference? You can't change the deficit overnight, and the deficit was very high when Obama took over. i.e. the government was spending much more than was receiving. 
      Obama did decrease the deficit. Nevertheless, because the deficit was very high to begin with, it accumulated debt over time.
      Do you know how this works right?

    • @tor1nd
      @tor1nd Před 8 lety +2

      Does not matter who started it, but 2 terms in office and not reducing debt efinitely shows bad management, incompetence and possibly lack of business acumen. Would you invest your hard earned money in a Company which keeps losing money in a big way year in year out for 8 years running? I certainly won't! So what should the shareholders do? Replace CEO with another from the same management staff of the last 8 years running same ideas, or recruit someone from the outside with proven track record?

    • @BrunoCCoutinho
      @BrunoCCoutinho Před 8 lety

      Tor Ind Governments rarely reduce the debt.... negative deficit is a very rare thing.
      Of course it is important who started.... Obama couldn't just stop spending money overnight, specially because of Iraq war. Wars are exactly the big problem here.
      Bush involves America in War that costs way too much money and in your opinion Obama is responsible for that?

    • @tor1nd
      @tor1nd Před 8 lety

      so what did Pence do in Indiana?

    • @tor1nd
      @tor1nd Před 8 lety

      Leichstenstein, Brunei, Macau, Virgin Islands, Palau

  • @erwinraj823
    @erwinraj823 Před 3 lety +19

    When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser. ~ Socrates

  • @Pollutical
    @Pollutical Před 3 lety +15

    Cenk debates like a child in a lunchroom

  • @mindflow82
    @mindflow82 Před 8 lety +17

    Cenk is by far the most annoying and illogical debater I've seen.

  • @LogosTheos
    @LogosTheos Před 7 lety +31

    Cenk sucks at debating. All he does is make caricatures and straw men.

    • @nikkawick312
      @nikkawick312 Před 7 lety +3

      LogosTheos These TYT fans don't understand what your talking about. Those concepts are foreign to this channel.

  • @michaellezama1398
    @michaellezama1398 Před 4 lety +20

    Everytime cenk speaks he either turns to the audience for confirmation or attacks dinesh' s character instead contending with points made. Its disgusting.This isnt a debate its a charade.

  • @Artxst
    @Artxst Před 4 lety +22

    As a conservative, I previously thought that Cenk was genuinely a good person. That changed when I witnessed him personally insult Dinesh, mock him, and misleadingly quote him. Wish I had seen this earlier.

    • @seanlacalle8638
      @seanlacalle8638 Před 4 lety +2

      I love how cenk thinks he knows more about the crimes D'nesh D'souza committed better than D'nesh D'souza

    • @b5lovermore
      @b5lovermore Před 3 lety +3

      Same!!! LITERALLY yesterday I had the thought “I don’t agree with the young Turks but I respect them because I think they really believe in what they’re saying” just to come here and watch cenk debate like a middle school mean girl... the respect is dwindling down lol

  • @gradstudentUCM
    @gradstudentUCM Před 6 lety +101

    Why are so many of Cenk’s answers a direct attack rather than a direct answer?

    • @MLP88
      @MLP88 Před 3 lety +4

      Because D'Souza is a documented direct liar.

    • @InTheZ0n3
      @InTheZ0n3 Před 3 lety +4

      @@MLP88 proof ??

    • @InTheZ0n3
      @InTheZ0n3 Před 3 lety +4

      @@MLP88 it’s ironic bc u just lied lmao

    • @MLP88
      @MLP88 Před 3 lety +4

      @@InTheZ0n3In a review for IndieWire, film critic David Ehrlich wrote, "This is the same old dog and pony show upon which D’Souza has built his brand. It’s his usual shtick of piggybacking a baseless personal attack onto a pseudo history lesson, a feature-length dog whistle that’s blown at a pitch so high that only the most ignorant or paranoid of people are capable of hearing it." Writing in The Guardian, Jordan Hoffman described the film as "paranoid" and "so demented that no synopsis could do it justice" and D'Souza as a "simpleton". He goes on to say that the basis of the film, the "purposely misunderstood fact" that "the Republicans used to be the good guys when it came to the issue of racial equality in America" is as surprising a discovery as the Soviet Union being an ally of the United States in World War II because: "things change, and labels are semantics, and the concepts that bind a political party then might not be the same ones that bind them now." Dann Gire of the Boston Herald called the film "an embarrassment to propaganda films", full of "mind-boggling conspiracy theories" and "fried thoughts and lapses of basic journalistic practices".

    • @zerocool7146
      @zerocool7146 Před 3 lety +3

      But even the guy you cited, is stating an opinion. Which could very well be wrong. Perhaps look into some of Dinesh’s lectures and maybe state an opinion of your own? Still, cenk attacking dinesh doesn’t prove his arguments as correct

  • @RKAddict101
    @RKAddict101 Před 8 lety +50

    It seems to me like Cenk purposefully misunderstands Dinesh's points in order to try to make him look bad. Dinesh's point makes complete sense: Slavery was an immoral and terrible thing, but even many of the African Americans that are not well off in America live better lives than they would have if they lived in Africa instead. Doesn't seem that controversial.

    • @chanv2624
      @chanv2624 Před 8 lety

      At the price of losing our identities, language, culture? By having millions of us killed, raped, tortured, etc??? No. That is such an ignorant view, but you have the right to your ignorant opinions and so does he. No one makes that argument about the jews benefiting from the holocaust. You can respond if you like but I won't be responding, Gross.

    • @RKAddict101
      @RKAddict101 Před 8 lety +3

      Do you purposefully misunderstand it too? In no way was I making a claim about whether slavery was a net benefit to humanity or not.

    • @Easternphuckit
      @Easternphuckit Před 8 lety +1

      +Channel Verdell that language and culture still presides in Africa. You can give back everything that makes life great here in the western world and take up that standard of living.

    • @personal61319
      @personal61319 Před 8 lety

      But Dinesh said it was Democrats who were more into owning slaves. So he is thanking Democrats.
      Also, what's the actual point being made? Millions of people come over here without having to have been descendants of slaves.
      He said that those millions I just mentioned have a very hard time to get here. So he is implying being born here is easier, and it's of little consequence regarding your ancestors being enslaved to make that happen?
      Literally what is the point he is making?

    • @RKAddict101
      @RKAddict101 Před 8 lety

      GBU, I think you understand his point, but you're trying hard to misunderstand it.

  • @strausszahard9251
    @strausszahard9251 Před 5 lety +32

    RIP Cenk...
    Dinesh D'souza is a Gangsta...

  • @damarismayer1507
    @damarismayer1507 Před 5 lety +12

    Dinesh won this debate in spades.

  • @certifiedsolja1824
    @certifiedsolja1824 Před 8 lety +57

    Dinesh won this and I don't even like the guy but he was trying to be reasonable and Cenk was throwing personal jabs at him and just distorting history

    • @McSpooner06
      @McSpooner06 Před 8 lety +2

      Dinesh writes books and produces movies to sway opinion. Citing his totally relevant criminal history and pointing out illegitimacies in his book is not only a totally acceptable attack on Dinesh' ethos as a debater but entirely relevant to the conversation. In no way shape or form did Dinesh come close to winning this.

    • @FromTacoma
      @FromTacoma Před 8 lety +3

      uh....no D'Souza is the one distorting history, and Cenk, whether it's on the subject of fiscal responsibity, or the history of the Democratic party, keeps trying to bring D'Souza back to reality. If what I'm saying isn't true then please give me an example using running time. I'd like to see it.

    • @robertmiller2786
      @robertmiller2786 Před 8 lety +2

      You're as delusional as Dnesh if you think he won this debate. Dnesh is anything but reasonable.

    • @certifiedsolja1824
      @certifiedsolja1824 Před 8 lety

      Because one about the civil rights act the republicans were the first ones to present the bill wheb Eisenhower was president but democrats filibustered. And if Cenk was so happy that Johnson got the bill passed than why doesn't he quote Johnson? I wish Dinesh went harder on him asking him questions like minorities voted for the Democratic Party why aren't they doing better. But when Dinesh was bringing up fact all Cenk did was tell jokes personally attacked him Dinesh did the same thing but not on the same level as Cenk trust me man I saw this 3 times before I commented cause I thought it was close

    • @robertmiller2786
      @robertmiller2786 Před 8 lety +1

      +jonathan oviedo you do realize Dnesh is the champion of distorting history.

  • @teratokomi8731
    @teratokomi8731 Před 8 lety +26

    Cenks petty and childish behavior ruined the debate...

    • @nightbob6718
      @nightbob6718 Před 8 lety +11

      TRYING TO HAVE REASONABLE DISCUSSIONS! GET OFF THE PHONE!

  • @sandycartee2109
    @sandycartee2109 Před 4 lety +12

    Cenk did a great job being a fool.

  • @kiwi-bp2jt
    @kiwi-bp2jt Před 5 lety +7

    Cenk is an embarrassment to journalism. It’s disgusting listening to him talk and he came off as the biggest fool in this debate. You can tell he is loosing because he starts loosing his mind and childishly talking over Dinesh.

  • @terrimorris6962
    @terrimorris6962 Před 5 lety +17

    Cenk doesn't even really address the topics... He loses his train of thought and starts talking about nothing and throwing insults. Which is the democrats go to all the time!

  • @1in10million
    @1in10million Před 8 lety +33

    Even if you disagree with Dinesh, he still won the debate. Cenk was hardly debating, but rather character attacks, than ideals.

    • @stephenjoiner3738
      @stephenjoiner3738 Před 8 lety

      Dinesh shouldn't have committed a crime then there wouldn't be anything to attack.

    • @TheRoguesource
      @TheRoguesource Před 8 lety +2

      +Stephen Joiner lol, ad hominem is for idiots like you ;)

    • @jakedillon9113
      @jakedillon9113 Před 8 lety +1

      +Stephen Joiner His "crime" was donating money to a canidate. And he got jailed for a while. Though most punishments for that crime is a fine. You have google. Read up before you say something that makes you look like a degenerate

    • @1in10million
      @1in10million Před 8 lety

      +Torbjorn Wodinheim That's not debating, that's distracting. Cenk is a pro at speaking the language of the sheep.

    • @rainmanslim4611
      @rainmanslim4611 Před 8 lety +1

      that's his whole job

  • @tylerhusky4065
    @tylerhusky4065 Před 5 lety +14

    Cell got his ass whooped. I love how he won’t answer the question about Obama’s defecit

    • @Evan8787
      @Evan8787 Před 5 lety

      He kept refusing to answer Dinesh on what party voted on civil rights more.

  • @martinceder9301
    @martinceder9301 Před 5 lety +20

    Who is Cenk really debating? He seems to have updated the strawman argument to 2.0. It is like he is debating his own demonized version of Dinesh in is head and it happens to come out loud. He shouts, screams and makes strange voices and postures. The audience is his therapist whos acceptance he is longing for. This was pretty disturbing.

  • @NicholasWongCQ
    @NicholasWongCQ Před 8 lety +48

    47:10
    Dinesh: You don't read them, but you talk about them...
    Chunk: Have you watched every one of my shows?
    Dinesh: No.
    Chunk: How dare you! Don't talk about anything I said.
    Dinesh: I didn't even talk about your show.
    Chunk: Al-right, by the way...
    LOL.

    • @CodingMadeEasy
      @CodingMadeEasy Před 8 lety +7

      Lol! I died when I heard that. Cenk is a joke.

    • @darkduck-qg2so
      @darkduck-qg2so Před 8 lety +3

      and somehow the chunk has the crowds eating out of his hand

    • @vee_del_sol
      @vee_del_sol Před 8 lety +1

      did you not catch the sarcasm? jeez dude

    • @carlowen9163
      @carlowen9163 Před 8 lety

      My point exactly. He has a child mentality.

  • @amh5ify
    @amh5ify Před 7 lety +37

    "have you watched all of my shows?"
    "no"
    "How dare you, don't ever talk about things I say again"
    "I haven't talked about your shows"
    Cenk is an idiot, whenever he's against an actually intellectual person, he loses. that's hilarious

  • @miriamsreality
    @miriamsreality Před 4 lety +18

    Cenk is so immature ... doesn't read the book... but he's critiquing it. does that even make sense?

    • @LunaElectrolysis
      @LunaElectrolysis Před 4 lety

      Dinesh doesn't watch TYT... does it mean he can't debate Cenk's ideas? Cenk just asks him questions about the book and what Dinesh has said in it. What's wrong with that?

    • @tommywd40
      @tommywd40 Před 4 lety

      @@LunaElectrolysis Dinesh wasn't making outlandish claims that "Cenk said this" or "Cenk said that". For Cenk to try to quote Dinesh he would have to have read his book. He wasn't and was trying to lean on the trained seals he had in the audience to clap everytime he resorted to as hominem

  • @trentonduke5199
    @trentonduke5199 Před 4 lety +12

    What kind of person does cenk’s behavior appeal to? So inappropriate and insecure 🤢

    • @viewer7200
      @viewer7200 Před 4 lety +1

      'Insecure' is exactly right