Control The Wind: Managing Your Paraglider On Windy Launch Sites
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- čas přidán 24. 09. 2017
- Paragliding in windy conditions can be risky. Being able to control your wing gives you a big safety advantage. Join Flybubble Paragliding on a wind-swept launch site as we demonstrate a step by step system for controlling the effects of the wind.
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Thank you from a novice, I'm half way though my classes. I find videos like this quite informative. Classes give you all sorts of tips, training, and education, but seeing the tips and such in actual demonstration is another thing!
Thanks for all the Tips and Tricks. Windy launshsites were always a thing that made me worry a bit
So many life saving tips !!! One is missing however : with such a wind, gloves can really protect you from line burns !
when ur a pro like greg, you don't get line burns. lol
@@verticallines212 haha rumors say he doesn't even need a wing to fly !!
+1@@flybubbleparagliding ! You guys do a wonderful job for the paragliding community, Thank you so much !
I've been flying paragliders since '92, so what can this guy teach me about strong wind handling?
Quite a bit it turns out! Excellent video! Thanks man!
From what I've understood so far with my limited knowledge it seems to be that there a few things that need to keep going forward in this sport. One is the wing and the other is the attitude of the pilot. There's only one guy that knows everything and is in in danger of nothing and we are so glad you're not him. (SD) Here's to not getting complacent which i hear can have the potential to kill.
Nothing, but he probaly wasn't directing the video towards you.
You should read everything before you comment on something: Two seconds more reading would've saved you the time and sarcasm... ; )
agreed, i've been flying since 92 and what he did is sort of like a muscle memory for me, but it's interesting to hear the narrative from a different perspective, it's always something you can learn, and that's the humble attitude of someone who constantly learns and improves.
Agree … articulate and clear
Excellent instructional video. Where I live, we rarely see winds this strong. So, what you've taught here is especially helpful. Thanks.
Some life saving Tips PPL. Thank you so much!
As a hang glider pilot I really enjoyed this production and learned a great deal that I'm certain will benefit me in the future.
Need to have a word with the landlord, that fence is so inconvenient. Nice workout and no gym membership required :-) Very interesting and educational video. Thank you for taking the time.
I was doing reverse kiting practice yesterday for paramotoring in strong wind and got lifted way off the ground unexpectedly. it really freaked me out I didn't know what to do and I was pulling the brakes as hard as I could trying to stall the wing. thank God the wind died down briefly. You make it look so easy!
Great videos. I find these really helpful when used together with instruction. Thanks!
Very well done, super logical explanation. Thank you very much for taking the time to make the video.
Great video, thanks fly bubble!
Awesome video! Great tips and like how you took raps then moved to you back rider. Keen the good videos coming!
Still learning to kite my wing for PPG. Yesterday was too windy to kite, 12Knots, Gust 17. But I went out to purposely practice high wind ground handling using your techniques. It all worked out very well and I was in control of the wing the whole time. I purposely did not try to get it airborne. This looks like a great technique for PPG to use while warming up the engine. I am a Paraglider wannabe but there are no launch sites around here so I need the motor to get up.
I still need to learn how to package the wing and lines up neatly.
Excellent, very informative! Thanks!
Great Helpful instructions. For any person skill. Thanks boss !
Thanks for a really well produced and informative video.
This is such a well informed video! Thanks! Perfect "script" (IE you are really effective at communicating what needs to be said) as the viewer watches..... Thanks so much! More validation as to why I love your vids! Happy soaring!
Thank for the precious informations ! Thank you Mister ! Good fly ! 😊😊😊
Lovely sensible demonstration
Such a great video! Thank you. I'll have a much better time controlling the wing at launch
Thank you for this very useful video!
Lovely green place.
FANTASTIC! Thank you very very very very much.
this is the second paragliding chan... i think this is actually the first i just have an easy time remembering the other channel but yeah this is the first paragliding channel i have subscribed too after a few hundred vids
Brilliant video!
awesome instructions! thx
Thank you very much ! I think there is no way to self learn this without a lot of pain !
thanks for another great peace of information
Wow that's a precious pack of tips for strong wing conditions! Thank's for this, being stilll a relative beginner, I feel thoses skills are quite difficult to build & muscle SO that are real precious advices in this video.
Excellent job
You're a very good teacher.
Awesome 😍 Thanks a lot mate
Nice one. Thank you.
Hi ive not flown for seven years , im buying a wing , This winter (wrong time i know) just the way finances go , anyway cracking videos so many thanks for that ,,lots of real handy tuition for a returningpilot GREAT ,
Very instructive! Tx
Bravo Amazing video! I saw Mike Kung videos before this one to learn this, but this video even includes taking it out of the bag and even folding it!
and I didn't even wear my underpants on the outside... ;-)
Gostei do treino e suas explicações. Obrigado. Brazil.
Nice walk-through.. wish my instructors at Torrey Pines spent this 15 minutes with me!
amazing!
Gr8 vid thank you for tanijg the time
Thank you very much!!!
Thanks!
Very hepfull, thx.
Greg, what a wonderful
a place?
Very very good
Nice one Greg, another good video. I always treat strong wind launches like a ticking time bomb, always in my head is be gentle and make sure you get it right :-)
absolutely. I focus on choosing the best layout spot so I've got space downwind - things go wrong fast
I've seen you fly in some tasty winds :-) vimeo.com/232620906
As short legged and light pilot I've been struggling with strong wind for years.
This technique is ok for stabilizing the wing. But as soon as it launches it will drag and kick aggressively... specially when using a B-low or old low performance gliders.
For this last step I found better results by using B lines to reduce exposed area and slower inflation. Usually by holding both A's with one hand and pull and both B's with other hand till middle of A's forearm. With B's pulled back, use A's as usual and and glider will rise slowly, a little bit horizontally folded but without dragging. As soon as it gets over the head, by slowly releasing B's it get as normal without any agressive kick!
Not sure if this works on 2-liners... but I guess pilots that can safelly fly such performant wing will have no troubles in takeoffs. :)
this video was about stabilizing the wing, not launching. Check out czcams.com/video/DyP4jQcCXNA/video.html for that. Interesting idea about the B lines, but that definitely doesn't work on many wings because the placing of the Bs is not consistent. Some wings will fly up on the Bs then rotate.
Any vídeo tô show US?
Thanks so much for the video, how did you print on the parachute?
This is a really good video. Any chance you want to do one for 2 liners?!
Your name supposed to be Great 👍🏽
Excellent wing control techniques
Great 👍
merci beaucoup je viens d'apprendre quelque chose :-) maintenant c'est tout très claire youpi
great thank you soo much:))
Greg, Thank's so much for your incredible advice ! I got stuck once with my wing inverted in strong wind and it just didn't want to come back (well definitely not as easyily as your's did in this video). Would you have any additionnal piece of advice when stuck in a situation where your wing is inverted , does't want to come back over and the wing starts dragging you like a kite... ?
That would be great. Hasen't happened to me again, but I do admit I really didn't like that situation and I don't really know what the best thing to do would be if it happened again. (I've been flying for over 20 years in switzerland)
Useful
Really great video that will give me lots to work on during those windy days. Thanks Flybubble for all your videos and for sharing so much great knowledge to educate and keep pilots flying safer! :)
Aside from the wind, how much concern did you have regarding the fence?? That would have been something I would have been worried about potentially flying in to.
fence=zero concern, as I'm on the downwind side of it. My forward speed during launch is about 1-2km/h, and I can make that -4-5km/h (ie. backwards away from fence) just by pulling the brakes.
Love from Nepal
Thx
Practicare en campa tus enseñanzas
i like your glider!
полезно. спасибо
this reminds me of that sting game thing we played as kids
A very interesting video, thanks for posting it. Kneeling on one knee just prior to bringing the wing up certainly works well. Dunstable in the UK has a similar fence which forces pilots to make a short take-off.
Greg we love your videos, but this technique absolutely would fail in the gusty, windy conditions we fly in here in the desert southwest of the USA. We mean 15 to 20 mph. What we do, is keep the wing in a tight rosette and stand near it while detaching the brakes. Then get both C's in one hand, and both inner As in the other. Back up and tease the wing out of the rosette a bit at a time, with gentle tugs on the A's using the C's to keep it low. After the wall is built, the C's are used to hold it diwn. When bringing it up, the brakes stay up at the pulleys until the wing is stable overhead - we practice kiting never touching the brakes. Brakes are not effective in De-powering a wing! Only when ready to turn, or if plucked, do we let go of the A's and C's and use brakes.
err, buzzy that's the same as how the video begins. I agree your method would work fine. In both cases, it's a deflated glider, slowly moved into position by keeping it pinned down. Of course you can start out with back risers and brakes in hand already - I was showing pilots here how to reach the back risers without losing control. What you maybe don't appreciate is that some wings won't stay pinned with C's alone. There are various riggings used by various manufacturers, and I get to see a lot of them. Some wings will need brake input to prevent tips flying up. So I'm careful to recommend only things that work for all pilots. As for depowering the pullup, that was not discussed in this video - that's for another time.
Hi Buzz, you method is known as the Australian reverse launch or Mitsos method, and is indeed the only way of doing it properly. As you mentioned, without using the brakes at all. Here's an example of another way of launching in high winds. czcams.com/video/LSEg_xCCAck/video.html
Cheers, Rob!
Robert DeRomph Since posting this comment, our human watched Greg's more recent video on pure-rear riser inflations, and he has tried them in very strong conditions. He now uses the traditional A's and C's for all conditions up to about 18mph, but the pure-rear technique is absolutely brilliant for above 18. So, we are open to new ideas!
agree, for the Caucasus as well. You never get leveraged out, if you use that approach.
Great video, I know this is for control on the ground but have you ever tried bringing the glider up using the "big ears or Torrey Pines" method? At our local site in Cleveland Ohio it is often blowing over 16mph and the hill has a very steep incline. This way of inflating the glider during windy conditions after the ground handling is done is becoming more attractive so we don't get yanked into the air.
that is very site-specific. When you have open sites with significant wind at ground level, setting up for a big ears launch is very tricky (the tips fly up and meet). Many wings don't do bigears easily enough, some older wings are well suited to it as they had floppy nose sections so easily folded in, but with more reinforcing and set back As nowadays many wings just don't respond in the way you want. Also it creates a cravatte risk which is lethal in strong wind. It also removes steering control. Not my recommendation, but use what works where you are! If it's steep, try run uphill really hard, it will give you much more time to control.
Спасибо за перевод. (хотя бы заглавия)
Very useful tutorial here Greg! A question that I have is about the launch phase itself. Every time I took off in strong/lifty conditions on a steep slope I found that as soon as I started pulling up the wing I was basically fully committed already, because in that kind of conditions the wind lifts me off the ground straight away, and more often than not even before I can turn around.
It's my impression that braking or pulling the Cs at that point won't do any good because you'll most likely end up getting dragged.
I'm wondering if that's inevitable of if you have some tips to avoid that and be in full control till after you turn around, with your feet still on the ground and with the option to abort.
I guess that basically the question is if there's a way to reduce the wing's upward force once it's vertical above your head and you're still standing on the ground.
If you're not standing on the ground you just brake of course and you'll still be below the wing and lose height....but if you do that while kiting, the wing offsets from you and you get dragged.
Think he has a video on that actually. Im just a PPG pilot so strong wind launches arent something Im super familiar with, but I know two easy ways are to lay the wing out on a slope, and you can walk toward it as it comes up to take energy out of it, and also starting in a crouch allows you to stand as it inflates and take more energy out of it.
It is a very nice video, very informative. After so many strong wind launches, I still found some interesting tips. But it is missing 1 very key point of launcing in strong winds. In slightly stronger winds, with the technique you showed in the video, the wing has the tendency to come up very fast, lift the pilot 2 to 3m above the ground and then take a frontal collapse. End result pilot hits the ground really hard and then starts dragging. The wings with lower ratings like En A and En Bs are even more aggresive in my experience, due to their big cell openings. Solution: Use back risers with strong hands to limit the launching energy until the wing is on the head. Always bend the knees to allow more control on pulls. Once the feet are lifted from the ground without full control on the wing, you are at the mercy of wing. That should never happen. And this issue has to be demonstrated as part of this video.
I can even recommend to make 2-3 steps towards the wing in a strongwind launch. If you do so, you detract some energy so it won't lift you off when applying brakes. Combined with "stalling" the wing with the C-risers (on a 3 riser-glider) or D-risers (on a 4 riser) as soon as it is over your head you can prevent overshooting, I always had perfect gliderhandling. Or just go for the snake-launch, it looks way cooler ;)
I'm a beginner and have found it hard to move to those C risers fast enough, have had a few of these frontal collapses groundhandling , glad I wasn't in the air. But maybe its just a matter of time. Like my cowboy friend who was bucked off of his horse, You haven't ridden long enough if u haven't been bucked off
@Tom Power Myself being a low airtime pilot, I can't stress enough, how important is mastering the ground handling. After hours of kiting&playing with the paraglider on the ground (yes, I'm a slooow learner :D ) I'm way much more confident dealing with the stronger winds. IMHO it should be "pushed" even more in flying schools than it is actually (or my school sucked in that aspect).
I always go through the launch procedure in my mind before launching. Weak wind? 1-2 steps back, bend the knees, twistout fast and lean forward. Strongwind? make 2-3 steps towards the wing as soon as you pull on the A-risers. Dont wait untill the wing pulls you, then its too late, run as soon as you pull the As. And as you said correctly, you dont have much chance to stall the wing in strongwind when it has all its energy, front collaps is nearly impossible to prevent.
I agree Zuhaib, that's on our other video czcams.com/video/DyP4jQcCXNA/video.html This video was about controlling the wing on the ground, not about launching.
Always thank you for your great informations every time!! I'm a president of paragliding club of Ulsan university in korea. Someday if you come to visit South korea🇰🇷 I'd like to invite you and fly together with my club members^^
Thanks for the invitation
We that’s so sweet 🥰
Good demonstration on how to use the rear riser and break lines, which is the follow up video as to how you suggest to launch in strong wind with both hands busy with the rear risers and break lines? Would be great to see the launch method with that hand position.
it's demonstrated right at the end Vic, just let go. In this strength of wind, the wind will usually pop up by itself. If you'd prefer, keep hold of the rear risers to control the overshoot.
Thank you. I will practise this asap, looks a lot more comfortable than rear risers in one hand and a's in the other.
try flybubble.com/blog/strong-wind-depower-rear-riser-control
Great video, thank you! Addresses the exact issues I was looking to improve.
Always so interesting! What is the difference between a paraglider wing and a paramotor wing, or is there any difference?
Motor risers. That's about it. I actually Motor a paraglider wing. Gin Calypso. We just put motor risers on it and now it's a motor wing. Typically paraglider wings are more efficient at thermal hunting and lift. Dedicated motor wings typically use heavier weight fabric and heavier lines. But I still do mild acro with my gin calypso under heavy load with me and my motor. Motor and fuel is about 65-75 pounds and I'm 186 pounds. The glider doesn't really notice the extra weight.
Great idea close to a fence like that, guess that's why we have so many good blooper video's.
That's good , I learned paragliding in canada and we learn a lot to use the ''d'' lines. they said in europe nobody use it , the most people only use brake but brake will raises the wing without being able to control it . I see so many video in europe with so many crash . Some people go with ''c'' wings and he dont know how to use it propertly
I can't say for everybody else over here, but I was taught, that best way to pin the wing to the ground is using brakes WITH rear risers. For me personally, Mitsos technique is the best way to go! YMMV :)
A's + rear riser technique works great on some wings, in some situations. works badly in others, where brakes and correct technique offers more control. I agree mirogster, just grabbing the rear risers and brakes in one hand offers great pinning and I use that mostly. This video was to help most pilots who end up in that 'trapped' position (brakes and leaning back, can't do anything anymore) ... it lets them get to the back risers with the critical step of wrapping the brakes. As for launching techniques, that will be another video!
Thats a good tips , Thank you guys !! Its nice to have new tricks !
thats wrong buddy in switzerland we learned to control and use the d lines also in case the brakes cant be used
Greg Hamerton Greg, I used this
technique (wraping brakes, and 'crawling' with hands towards back risers) recently, during quite strong wind groundhandling session. Works like a charm (especially if you're surprised by strong gust ;))!! And with positioning yourself parallel to the wind direction - a life saver :). Thanks so much, always very informative!! Looking forward to new uploads!!
Great vid!! Is it absolutely necessary for strong wind handling to not wear gloves?
Admitted, second sentence was to kid you :))))
Nice! Would have been Good to state the actual windspeed in mps.
yeah id like to know what the speed was too
I had a dream about paragliding or some kind of made up gliding last night. I remember explaining something about center of gravity in my dream. Which is strange because I have never been paragliding or anything like it, and I dont often think about it. So I looked it up, as I often do with things I make up during my dreams--just to see if these little factoids my brain produces are the result of knowledge from a past life or something like that (not that i necessarily believe in that, just trying to check for anomalous information i couldn't possibly know). Anyway, thats how I got here, and I can honestly say this looks terrifying. I mean one minor error, and you end up taking off in a bad state.. and i imagine that doesnt end well. I can just imagine being out there alone and realizing you are getting exhausted and don't know how to resolve the situation you have gotten yourself stuck in. I can see myself latching onto one of those fence posts for dear life.
WOW!! I saw the shadow of your clothes flapping and the grass fluttering at the start of your video and clearly it was a very nasty day. I don't think I took a breath throughout that whole video. It was worth it's weight in gold. I have done some ground handling in windy (but considerably milder) conditions than yours and my heart was pounding. I took to the B lines because it reduces the drag but of course the whole wing leaves the ground. Now I have I much better plan and grasp on this kind of situation. What would the story be if you took the back risers from the beginning along with the brakes before you turned the wing?
Try the CurbTechnique ;-)
Nice video!! How can we a get a magnetic compass like yours??
flybubble.com/pin-on-mini-ball-compass
@@greghamerton4422 sold out of those, can't get any more at the moment :(
Do you sir have a parachute in case of something going wrong ? 🧐
Sr. Do you happen to measure the wind speed there. 30kms or up??
All those strings bundled together look like it would be worse than trying to untangle christmas lights!
most Launch sites i have used in Aus. are narrow with little room for side setups
if you could do a video of small launch sites med/high wind would be good . Note with small sites the problems of rotor and trees to catch wings . this is typical of Australian costal sites launches
Is Paragliding possible in island??
What kind of Advance wing this is ?
Now try doing all this when you're knee deep in snow on a side of a fell in a full winter gear :)
How do you know the lines are not twisted a couple of things if you (like you did) already wearing the harness connected to the glider???
Easy answer, he probably never unclipped from the caribiners when he bagged it. It was attached to the harness just the same way from the last time he flew it. So it had to be correct.
what wing is this
good video but you need gloves :) and to solve one big cravat you need to pull a bit on the stabilo line
correct!
I would to thanks you for these helpful lessons! (*_*)
Знал бы английский подписался бы на канал. Дельный автор👍👍
@@flybubbleparagliding Спасибо Вам, всегда с удовольствием смотрю Ваши видео. Привет из Харькова Украина
glider price in your country
Why wouldn't you use an A-wing, like the Ozone Mojo in high winds?
large camber (curvature of upper surface, basically, a fat nose) generates tons of lift at low speed (during pullup) and the wing is very stall resistant (to help beginners in flight) - these two combined can make it challenging, because its hard to pin on the ground, hard to bring down and hard to avoid tons of power. Then its trim speed is low so it will be the first wing to be pushed backwards on launch. Running towards the wing before it starts to pull you helps remove the punch, but the Mojo is not a high wind wing.
is´nt OK!
Bonjour, C'est une super vidéo S'il vous plaît pouvez vous mettre les SOUS TITRE en anglais? pour ce qui on un peu plus de peine :-) merci beaucoup
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it is already subtitled, click the Settings
That fence is giving me anxiety
Using C+D works even better to demobilize.
And a dos-à-dos... Please sir, step to your left. That fence makes me nervous.
Sigma 10??