Jinnah Contradictions in light of Sir Syed | Part 2
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- čas přidán 9. 08. 2018
- Part 2: Jinnah's contradictory statements on secularism and an Islamic system must be seen in the context of Syed Ahmed Khan's radical naturalist reinterpretation of Islam. Its central characteristic was its brutal criticism of Taqlid (which was continued by Iqbal). The Aligarh School not only deeply influenced the intellectual milieu of the Muslim League of the 1940s, it provided the intellectual justification (right or wrongly) for reconciling Islam with modernity, secularism, democracy, and scientific rationalism.
Hence, to turn Jinnah's statements into a justification for theocracy totally misrepresents how opposed he was to the Taqlidi ulema of his times. In contemporary Pakistan, however, when we talk of the imposition of an "Islamic system", it is sadly not Sir Syed interpretation of Islam that we refer to (most of the public is not even familiar with this interpretation). But the interpretation of the opponents of Sir Syed Ahmed Khan. It is the taqlidi and other orthodox ulema whose interpretation of Islam is put forward and sadly also accepted as the genuine Islam.
Have Syed Ahmed Khan, Iqbal and Jinnah lost in the grand project of reforming the Islamic intellectual tradition? Your thoughts... - Hudba
Today, I understand why Britain give Syed Ahmad Khan the title of "SIR".
Spot on
And same title was granted to Iqbal as well😉
You have yet to get to the point.
@@Thatbeautifulgirl5 guide why they were give the title of sir
@@Thatbeautifulgirl5 اے نبی! اپنی بیویوں سے اور اپنی صاحبزادیوں سے اور مسلمانوں کی عورتیں سے کہہ دو کہ وه اپنے اوپر اپنی چادریں لٹکا لیا کریں،اور اللہ تعالیٰ بخشنے واﻻ مہربان ہے
سوره احزاب آیات 59
I have always been amazed at the quality of researchers in LUMS. Such detached intellectual analysis of our past is absolutely necessary. When we study someone else's ideas, we do not immediately have to either support them or criticize them. Thank you, Dr. Rahman, for this analysis.
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We are not capable to understand the invisible matters of Almighty Allah I don't know who shaped the man Sir Syed Ahmed Khan
Hello sir I am from India, I am an atheist, this is such a beautiful insightful lecture. Thank you so much.
WOW! Sir Sayed Ahmed Khan was an enlightened and logical being of his time. He was far ahead of his time. He seems a very logical person.
It's really enlightening, Taimur sir. Your videos have huge impact and it has certainly altered the way I used to perceive things. Great job, sir. God bless you and I am hopeful that someday your videos will be guiding the many.
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Sir make a video on Abul kalam azad and his predictions
Kalam was the only visionary person of that time....
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اے نبی! اپنی بیویوں سے اور اپنی صاحبزادیوں سے اور مسلمانوں کی عورتیں سے کہہ دو کہ وه اپنے اوپر اپنی چادریں لٹکا لیا کریں،اور اللہ تعالیٰ بخشنے واﻻ مہربان ہے
سوره احزاب آیات 59
Secularism is solely a Islamic concept even at the time of prophet (pbuh). Jinnah followed that kind of secularism, neither theocracy imposed by mullah nor extreme secularist views like Mustafa Kamal and other Western religious phobe leaders.
Secularism is islamic concept 😅I can't stop laughing 😅 fanatic islamic terrorist,Im secular 😅
Very nice lecture ever delivered in Pakistan.
The only person whom i can listen 24/7 . Mashallah
You are not vlongging the video but teaching the thousands of students about fact ... Thanks Sir Taimur for these Informative videos❤
I am pre.medical student. I didn't know anything about Pakistan Studies but now I am taking interest in Pakistan Studies😒😞💔💔
sayed ahmed khan and jinnah were highly secular and progressive..Md. Ali Jinnah was considered as the ambassador of Hindu Muslim unity in the 1920s.. But what made him change his mind is still a mystery.And not only Islam extremists but also Hindu extremists believe that darwin's theory is false . by the way, i am from Orissa and i really like your interpretations.
Sir you have solved one of my biggest questions, I have been swinging between leftist and rightist ideologies but now I am clear
Brother kia tha ?
Thank you very for making an intellectual video with reference.
But at 21:55, the claim is made that Quaid-e-Azam's interpretation of Islam is based on the Islamic interpretation of Syed Ahmed Khan, but no reference was provided.
Similarly, at 23:19, Quaid's response was negative to scholars who were following TAQLEEDI approach towards religion.
If possible, please provide above mentioned references as it is the main part and climax of both the videos.
Sir I m your top fan, but I'm really sorry that u couldn't manage to justice with the conflict ... Nonetheless, it was much informative.... U must have read that Jinnah was much impressed by iqbal's n azad's version of Islam. Moreover, Iqbal's view of Islam was totally opposite to sir syed's one.
Apki video dekhkar. Aisa Lag raha ki ab Muslims modern aur reform ho rahe. Hai yah ak achi Suruwat hai . I salute to you sir for good informational lecture.
Lot of new things from M.A.Jinnah and Sir Syed Ahmed Khan. It's amazing. I don't know what to believe ! !
While I admit this is an amazing interpretation of islam, I do see a few issues. 1)Thinking there is no difference between science and quran, and curtailing a philosophy in that way does not solve certain issues. Also, questionng Hadith and praising quran based on the idea that Hadihs were written later, makes the time, quran was written, auspicious and a fixed point in time. Which is a dangerous idea and that essentially imploded 2)The contradictions Jinnah had can mean another thing, as an enlightened "british" he wanted to rule a place, which again is a problem.
Personally I think Gandhi, Nehru and Jinnah had tons of issues and at the end Punjabis and Bengalis mainly had to bear the burden. We Bengalis are still bearing the burden in a fascist regime in the form of NRC!
I would like to hear from you about a few other things 1)How to interpret stalin 2) A note on partition 3) A note on Gandhi and Nehru 4)Why Pakistan became an islamist state and India is becoming a fascist nation 4) Is there any way we can achieve peace in the subcontinent, like say EU 5) What do you think about "On the eastern question" and Lenin's comment on Pan-islamism?
I love your videos and I seriously wish I had a chance to sit in your class, and that is one of the reason, I would be hating partition :-\ If only India and Pakistan had free passage and I could sit in your class without having to worry about a visa!
Quran is central to us dude.
I see no contradiction in Quran and modern world.
From India
@@kamranmahfooz12 good for you.
@@kamranmahfooz12 There are many contradictions as Islam is an old pagan religion
Unbelievable. He was a man of modern age. Salute from Bangladesh.
Sir Sayyad Ahmad khan, the great, I salute you
Unho ny deen ko buhat noqsan ponchaya
Great lecture....👌👌
Ideology of Sir Syed Ahmed khan was very progressive and no doubt why he became so famous.
Thankyou so much for sharing his thoughts.
it makes so much sense.sir u just cleared all the misconceptions and reservations i had about jinnah,and muslim league.thank u soooo much
Good Lecture.
Earnest Salute from my heart for this great Soul.
Thank you very much to help us in solving this confusion.
Thank you so much for such enlightened information.
Stay blessed Sir 🙏❤️
Golden lecture sir!
sir me phr bhi puchna chahta hu ap kia smajte hein sir syed ahmed khan ke barey me.
The great sir syed ahmed khan
You very clearly said in part-1 of your video that when Jinnah referred to Islam as a system for Pakistani state, he was influenced by Sir Syed and it would clarify the apparent contradiction in Jinnah's speeches. You did not touch upon. let alone prove, as to how Jinnah's Islamic content was informed by Sir Syed. Did Sir Syed ever talked about Sharia as basis of the constitution ? Or Sir Syed wanted a state based on Islamic Principles ? Where is the link between Sir Syed and Jinnah's speeches ? It means Jinnah talked about Islam based on his own understanding developed over the years.
Great source of knowledge
Traditional Scholars issued 69 fatwas against Sir Syed.
And?
69 seems a nice number
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Well
Please sir book name bta day jisma ya sb lika hai
It was not Syed Ahmad khan's fault. He had just overestimated science which was getting popular at that time.
He still is a great man.
Kia app sir sayed ki books k name beta sekty hain..I wanna to read please,,,
“And (remember) when your Lord said to the angels: ‘I am going to create a human (Adam) from sounding clay of altered black smooth mud. So when I have fashioned him and breathed into him (his) soul created by Me, then you fall down prostrate to him.” (Quran 38:71-72)
Really Very very informative sir G...
Hi Sir, i really like your way of teaching, you are a great inspiration.
Which book should i read to study Sir Syed comprehensively ?
Occam's razor Dr.Rahman; the cleaner explanation is that the contradiction lies within Sir Syed's thought as well, & the simple reason is that his priority was Muslim loyalty to the British within a separation from Hindus, not a consistent political philosophy.
Sir can you please give us the referencenes in the form of links or please specify the names of books or other material in which all these things are written.
Bahe ghulam ahmad pervaiz k lectures youtube per mojood hen sun lo
Excellent, marvellous
What is the source that sir Syed ahmed khan said all this?
Sir..what is the name of this book ..from which u have taken the lecture
Sir Syed Ahmad khan not only reject the Ahadees but also contradicted the Quran in his writings.... Because the existence of Jinnat, Hazrat Ibrahim a.s thrown in fire, Hazrat Musa's a.s miracle of stick , Hazrat Isa a.s birth without Father all are described in the Holy Quran.
Umda explain kia hy prof sb
Majority of Muslims Opposed the Partition of India
The majority of Muslims opposed the division of India, which is evident from the fact that most Muslims ultimately did not migrate to Pakistan and stayed back in their homeland (India). Muslim leaders who opposed the partition of India continue to be ignored or misrepresented, which confirms that a false history is being taught.
Gamdhi sahab has written a lot against perwez and sir Syed rahimhullah -
Taimur must hear javid Gamdhi or read his book Meezan
Sahe bol rhy Ho...
Ghamdi sab is a good scholar but its not neccessarily right everytime.
Why are you praising syed ahmed by giving him the title of rehmatullah ?
@@thehumorousfilms3525 kia sach ma Gamdi sab ny rahamtula Likha ha ?
Great research
Excellent.......love it!
Long year before I was searching this history very well... Thanks a lot from India
I, studied at Aligarh Muslim University. Hindu, used to study in complete safety. In, many courses like m.b.b.s.and engineering non Muslim students out numbered Muslims. It, was a good place to study.
Salute to you, Taimurbhai.
THANK you sir you have cleared my ambiguities
Jab hum Aristotle or Socrates ki sayings per believe kr lety hn per Hadith per per believe kerny ma kia masla ha ???
If sir syed is in this era most of his research has gone to a point where quran and science met
I think when Quran says "Who believe in the unseen will be successful in Akhirah". So why people relate it to science.
Science deals with matter only not with the unseen things.
Islam never rejects science and science never discussed religion.
So these are different terms people can go on with both with no issues.
Sir, I wish to meet you. Please let me know where is it possible? Outside India/ Pakistan off course.
Lahore nust university
qatal krna hai hamary teacher ko
Sir koi books bata dein
Sir Syed ki jaha ye sare points detail me milein
In Pakistan, the foundation for fundamentalism, extremism, and hate towards non-Muslims was laid by the All-India Muslim League. If you are unsure on this point, read the types of slogans that the Muslim League used and what their leaders and supporters stated to gain support for the partition of India (and creation of Pakistan). Pakistanis still shy away from accepting the truth. -Nasim Yousaf, November 07, 2018
Thankyou so much !
Sir with huge respect your information about Ghamidi sb is incomplete.
Well done. Continue with the topic so that you could educate the people!!! Take care!!
I am student of physics . I like you because your work is very helpful to abolish superstitions set in our surrounding densily
Carry on God bless you
100 %good analysis Agree with you sir
🌹🌹 Brilliant analysis 👍🏼🌹
Wow I am amazed k ajkal k zamanay mein 1 reformer ka rehna itna mushkil hai magar Sir nay us zamanay mein Islam ko reform kia or Quran ki taseer likhi. Matlab agar hum sab log ikhatay ab bhi hojayen to Mullon ka khatma kar saktay hain jaisay us time pay Sir nay kia
قرآن اور حدیث برابر کی حیثیت نہیں ہے، قرآن واضع طور پر حدیث سے افضل ہے
Ejaz Ahmed Rizvi I agree.
Original version of Hinduism is"Arya Samaj" which was revived in your West Punjab
Iam student of aligarh muslim university he was great educationist
Please make videos on Bartand Russell , please make
Thank you sir for enlightened me..
NICE ONE
sir har bar kr trah great
Sir plz recommends book
Aur ziada confuse karny ka shukria🙏.
I would to comment on symbolic representation of Quran the idea given by Syed Ahmed Khan.
Sir, you have mentioned at 6:17 that Syed Ahmed Khan started looking at Holy Quran from new perspective, that is symbolic representation of Holy Text.
I found this point interesting so thought I should share it with you and learn from your feedback/ suggestion/ comment.
The idea of viewing Holy Text as symbols particularly prepositions or descriptions is first started with Charch who were Kristian Philosophers who were unable to philosophically prove the existence of God so during the Reynaisaaance period. So, they realised that philosophical ideas adopted from Greeeek Philosophy is not going to help them prove philosophical or logical basis of their religion so they finally came up with symbolic representation of Holy Text. It helped Charch during Reynaisaaance period to convince that religion is still relevant.
Syed Ahmed Khan got this idea from them and used similar interpretation of Islam. So, it was not a new approach. It was done previously couple of centuries ago by Kristian Preeest Philosophers. However, it doesn't mean there is no symbolic text in Holy Quran. It is there to but exceptional (which is also supported by intellect) not general. Quran is a book of Haq (reality), not symbolism.
So, it was natural for scholars at that time and at this time, to show their response because it was coming from Kristian school of thoughts, may be modern interpretation of Holy Bybal.
This is how I understand.
Wanted to share background of symbolic representation of Holy Text.
Sir Syed actually promoted the esoteric interpretation of Islam which exists since the time of Prophet Muhammad and a small sect in Islam have been practicing it since the last 1400 years .
thanks a lot explaining so well
syed Ahmed khan ny deen ko buhat noqsan ponchaya
Well explained
Great sir...
sir i have a question. secularism ki had tak to baat theek he samjh me b aati he lekin farishton ka mojud na hona ya vahi ka nazool na hona aur baqi b jin cheezon ko tamseeli bina pr kaha gya he us k barey me aapki kya raye he. aesa b to ho sakta he vo baten metaphoric na hon aur jin cheezon ko science proove nhi krti ham usey mojza samjh lety hen lekin jesy hi vo cheez aqal ki grift me aati he ham usey maan lety hen phir vo mojza nhi rehti. to ye b to ho sakta he k science hi us level tak na pohnchi ho jo un cheezon ko explain kr saky. jesy waqat k sath kafi cheezen proove hui. like waqa e miraaj mumkin he physics isko kisi had tak manti he ab. to aap apni raye den is pr plz. please i want to listen your answer. please answer my question.
یہ تو معاملہ وہی ہوا جو اج عمران خان کے ساتھ ہے۔۔۔۔ ایک طرف مدینہ کی ریاست اور دوسری طرف عملی زندگی۔۔۔۔!
Well explained brother
Very nice
Stuff knowledge sir...
Resounding success
I LOVE YOU 😍 SIR. SYED AHMAD KHAN ♥
Wo deen ko noqsan ponchany waly thy
This guy's a legend
👍 thanks sir!
Sir what you wanna say
Can you plz clear jinnah contracdition
Beautifully explained very thing, Thank you very much Taimur Sab.
Suggestion: Sir you should maintain your blog or a website as well. Archives can be organised topic wise etc. And more significant thing is that you should ask people to subscribe the channel so they could become the members of this community. It would be a pleasure if I could create an Intro or outro with your background voice.
Wow...You make things really easy.One question is badly stuck in my mind that how sir Syed could interpret quranic verses that way?He didn't see or observe all that to comment with such surity.Few verses are clear cut mentioned and they can't be just metaphors.
U can get ans by molana ishaq
Sir Karl marks ki political thoughts pe b video banao???
Thx
Dear sir, please quote the source on Sir Syed's radical views???
Please quote the source on you are syed
Wow sir Sayed was so intelligent
Why Pakistan did not recreate Aligarh Muslim University in Pakistan like India recreated Punjab University and many other institutions after partition?