No question of referendum in Indian constitution: CJI to Kapil Sibal on Article 370 PIL
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- A five-judge Constitution Bench headed by CJI D Y Chandrachud is hearing petitions challenging the changes made to Article 370 of the Constitution that gave special status to the erstwhile state of Jammu and Kashmir. Here's what happened when Kapil Sibal tried to draw a Brexit-like analogy with the abrogation of Article 370
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Sound is measured by decibels, nonsense is measured by Sibals
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One sentence , you killed the false spirit of Sibal.
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Is any1 going to pin this comment for good God sake👏👏👌
Super funny friend. May I use your quote
This is how intellectuals define themselves..be anti National, Be Anti majority, Be woke!! Kapil Sibbal is a perfect example of intellect gone rogue
Anti Nationalist people like Kapil Sibal have to be exposed and shamed
He is not gone rogue, he has always taken up cases like these, he is perfect example of Anti national within India. Also DY Chandrachud seems to be restoring faith in his nationalist stance from his western ideology in many cases by taking progressive statement in this discussion
Sibal Skooled😂😅😂😅 by the judes😂😅😂😅sibal Britain wanted out Europe its a different scenario
Jammu and Kashmir are part of of India. Sibal is playing a dirty game and is now assuming Jammu and Kashmir was appealing for independent from India.that was the tactical impaled by his backers of Pakistani and Congress jihadi's 😂😅😂😅
Using Brexit was a layman's excuse 😂😅😂😅 but backfired 😂😅😂😅just like your jihadi Congress and your Pakistani funders😅😂😅😂 India is watching you and your 😂😅😅😂tactics😅😂😂😂
He is a Paki with Indian passport
Did he stand anytime when kashmiri pandits were killed for fun.???
I may have bias against CJI
but he points out the gullibility of this Clown very succinctly 😂
Then you can realise by now that SC is independent and works independently.
Doesn't matter if you like it's decision at some point n not later.
@@wanchooo29cji might as well be playing a double game.
He is either paid by western nations or is a clown who is pro India in small matter and anti India in important matters.
For example he decided that next election commissioner should be decided by modi him and Rahul
2 to 1 votes ? Something that can change the fabric of India
@@100chinarapedbygenghiskhan7 has he said election commissioner decided by modi, Rahul and his or CJI, Prime minister and Leader of opposition in Lok Sabha? There is a difference. In a democracy opposition should have equal say in deciding EC as they are also stakeholder in the elections
@@surajrawat6802 judiciary can't interfere in governance and they are doing just that.
Cji is overstepping his bounds and needs to be taught a lesson
@@100chinarapedbygenghiskhan7 when you say cji is biased.. They I think you don't trust the Constitution and democracy..
Kapil sibal and Abhishek singhvi , the two advocates accept all the unethical and controversial cases
You define intellectual ambiguity well. You choose to define this case well too.
Money over mind😢
Provided they get huge fee 😂 fat money,,😂 no guarantee to win the case...
Kapil sibbal also supported pfi in high court
Supreme court knows very well about them.
Kapil regrets that Indira Ghandy did not take the opinion of people while declaring Emergency
Gandhi it is
@@vv-sz4yh Feroze Jehangir Gjandy was the actual name of the upright Parsi Gentleman. For futuristic Political purpose the Father of Family ( Sri JN) made it as Gandhi to match the Father of Nation's surname .
@@manwithamask7276 no father needed for india
first time i have seen someone corrected the "ghandy" but people still not aware of this and merging ghandy with gandhi
@@baskaranganesan9006 Bharat has no father of the nation.
My greatest respect to hon'ble CJI sir.
Kyun?
@jethiya7990 What kyun? Should I condemn him like congress Netas , as they usually abuse the government. establishments and shower praises on anti nationalists.
@@jyotiprakashsingh3759 CJI Chandrachud bhi bohot dogla aadmi hai. Yahan usne aisa isliye bola ki uske paas option bhi nahi tha.
@@jethiya7990 Because Kashmir is a Part of India and it should not be bound by any Conditions like Article 370 which was only meant to be temporary but extended for 70 years due to Votebank appeasement and Bad Politics by Previoius Congress Govt, Creating a lot of issues.
@natural5584 Hlo mr. Anarchist, I have firm belief on govt. establishments, unilke you and other congress separatist leaders who have firm belief on pakistan, china, terrorist, separatist elements.
Such anti-nationals should not have a place in our country, such people are more dangerous than hostile countries.
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Hi is just doing his job. An advocate can argue any position. Its up to the judges to make the right decision. You cannot call an advocate anti-national for arguing his clients case.
@@jaiku99just because he is an advocate, he simply can not pickup any case that has no ethical or moral background and argue for the sake of money, particularly some like Kapil at this age. Fighting against abrogation of article 370 has no meaning.
@@ravie3214 there is nothing ethical or moral about arguing a constitutional issue like this one.
@@jaiku99 it does
Congress ka level itna gir gaya ki Government ka oppose kerte time desh ka oppose ker baithte hai, RIP Congress
Kapil Sibbal is in Samajvadi Party.
@@Rajat4you case vo opposition ki taraf se lad raha hai , apni party ki taraf se nhi
@@vaibhavmishraallinone3235 Sorry, I didn't know that
@@Rajat4youpahle toh congress mein hi tha na? Cabinet minister tha. Aur agar Samjvadi mein hai tab bhi toh wo Alliance hi hai congress ka.
Very apt analysis. Congress reach to a mind set that what ever government does opposition should oppose, even some thing constructive to public
Brexit is the wrong example. In our case Sibal thinks that JK should be treated as if it wants to peel off from the Union of India. Waste of time!
EU is not a Sovereign Entity or a nation. UK is. Sibal is displaying heights of treason in like with Congress Breaking India/ Union of States policy.
CJI Chandrachud rightly educated Kapil sibal. It was not people decision that article 370 was introduced by then majority congress party. Sibal can't question about majority BJP abrogating it now. It's democracy n the ruling elected body with majority took decision n executed. Kashmir is progressing n congress wants Kashmir people to sacrifice n enslave their lives n children future for Congress. Well responded by the honorable CJI
That is what Sibel is warning about the future of democracy in India;prejudice of majority.
@@tanveermajid6330why even you are talking about democracy, when there is rule of gulhane/nijame chustapa
@@tanveermajid6330I thought what kind of Indian would support sibal. Then I saw your username being a muslim
@@tanveermajid6330
As per your concerned statement, should the majority among the people of India conclude that minority is aching with pain due to wholesome inclusion of Jammu, Kashmir & Laddakh in the INDIA.
Deshkevieodi yonko sath dene valeko sajha ni milni chahiye kyoinki terreristonka sath denevala koyi bi ho
Why Congress is against India?
george soros idological subversion congress have signed mou with china also they have some tready with labour partty of uk radical left globalist agenda financed by western money and idiology
That is KHANGRESS
If they were then who came up with the IITs? Who came up with an independent foreign policy? Why do you conveniently ignore good things that the opposition does? I do agree the current government has also done a lot of good things
He is from Samajwadi Party you 🤡
@@valetudan234Also Nehuru chutiya gave 38,000 square Km. Aksai CHIN to china in 1962
Future generation will remember who is against INDIA or with INDIA>
Why are the judges so polite with him? Kapil has to be put in his place. He is cutting the Judges as they speak. Contempt of Court!! Send him in Thane Jail for 3 years
He's a senor lawyer, Senior lawyers always get respect even if they are dumb.
@@redpillmatrix3046 hahaha!! Well said
Thank God we have such an awesome constitution and the Rule of law that protects the people of India from overzealous fascists like you who cannot even allow disagreements. You don't like him you don't have to but saying he must be in jail just because you don't agree with him is good how? If someone is giving anti-national thoughts, let him. We have a constitution protecting the sovereignty and integrity of India. Being polite with an enemy is a basic decency that you should practice more.
@@r0yceNo offence but udk how dumb you sound. 🙂. Moreover, hes talking about law. Cutting a judge as he speaks is contempt and punishable.
He is in court and still making political points.
So what should he make ?
@@HK-fb8bolegal points
The choice of words by Sibbal is very smartly used to break India, Like "Union of India".
What to expect from Congressians.
I am also against congress but in court of law, cases are referred to as X Vs Union of India. Union of India typically means central govt. in the language of law. There is nothing wrong in it. You can search google and other cases too where central govt are parties to the cases. Central govt in court are referred to as union of india
I don't really care about Sibbal or what he stands for, but please educate yourself before accusing anyone for that matter. Our very own Constitution states in Article 1 that "India, that is Bharat, shall be a Union of States." Article 300 also refers to cases against the government of India as 'union of India', which you can see in most criminal cases.
There is something called court language. If you go to a Punjabi medium school, they will use Punjabi words or Telugu words to teach? Same applies to court. It has its own decorum and conduct. If you don’t agree with this, you can form your own country and through the Indian constitution in the trash.
@@user-iz2tm5ih4e will you give a small part of India to make a new country where I can THROUGH Indian constitution in trash 🗑📕
kapil sibal is a spent fuel no one in india listen to him so now he is trying to appease pakistani....rest in peace old man.
Every true Indian must just see this and understand what congress can do to this nation and people ....
He is not member of Inc still u spread lies salute to ur falsehood
@@rhythmrealm3026 Bhai Congress m tha tb bhi aesa hi tha ye 😅
@@parmjeetsingh9911 he is advocate and it's his profession to argue in court , he is not part of Congress
@@rhythmrealm3026 Of course for money you can argue anything..... Coz that's PrOfEsSiOn
@@user-sc1wi7nz2n Audi Altrem Partem is Principle of Natural justice, no court proceedings can take place without hearing the other side, Advocates has to do this job , when they represent other side which u don't like , people start abusing advocates, but understand law first before abusing advocates, that's what I was telling you. Yet i know u will abuse i am not that much concerned
Mr. Sibal and Mr. Sighvi are not cheap lawyers they charge as much as a middle class man makes in a year just for a few appearance. In light of this information I just want to know who is funding this case?
Well there are a lot of them from ISI to china , not to mention George Soros 1 billion dollar pledged to remove current goi.
Makes in a year..?
Makes in decades...
Funding definitely all by anti India, anti Hindu intellectuals, human right extremists.
Skamgressi with ill gotten Scam money or some other dalla?
@@varun2250Congress and National Conference
....अरे जे भी कोई पूछने आली बात से।
Referendum is always demanded by Pakistan now demanded by Sibbal ,,so I think there is no difference between Pak and sibbal
The question is why not have a referendum? We can't coerce people to act the way we want them to, I guess in a free democracy that's not what is supposed to happen
referendum is promised to kashmiris by the then prime minister of india
kashmir is a disputed territory...
@@valetudan234what logic are you using here? If a referendum is exercised in this case why not in every other case out there? On UCC, on India being a hindu state and so on.
It is people’s task to vote for the candidate they choose and candidates task is to implement the schemes that he sees fits for the class.
If we allow referendum in such cases it kills the very soul of the elections.
@@vaibhavgahane9802 this is literally a matter of sovereignty, international reputation and in general about basic human dignity
You cannot force Kashmiris to accept things and then expect that they harbour favourable feelings towards India and Indians. This is similar to Hong Kong, at the time that China respected Hong Kong's autonomy, more Hong Kongers identified themselves as Chinese citizens
If you truly want Kashmir to be a part of India, then you'll have to respect what Kashmiris want, it may not be in your favour but it's what they want. If you coerce them into doing things then how does it make a country like India different from China? Do we not have a rule of law?
Look at Kashmir beyond just a piece of land, there are people living there
Besides this, you don't need to make India a Switzerland style direct democracy, it's simply not possible, but article 370 and UCC are two very different things
You can't decide on the future of Kashmir without consulting it's people, it's their ancestral land as well.
@@beinghuman4457No.
Ambedkar had specifically banned referenda as a means of expression of opinion due to it being liable to manipulation and emotional outbursts rather than proper consideration, especially in the wake of the Partition.
Even Brexit is being seen as a big mistake across most of even Britain.
Brexit was right. It was demonized by Anti-national Far Left in Britain far before it happened. Besides Brexit Barely happened, UK is saddled with thousands of EU laws and a Marxist Jihadist ECHR. It can't control it's own borders
Also India is a Nation, a Sovereign Entity. EU is not a Nation or a Sovereign Entity, the UK is. This is an extremely dangerous false equivalence made by Far left Anti Nationals like Sibal and RaGa
Its Dr. Ambedkar or baba saheb Ambedkar. Show some respect.
@@marz6526chill he didn't disrespect
Stop crying. @@marz6526
@@marz6526There is nothing offence in addressing a person by his name. Our other friend has his own right to address B R Ambedkar as Ambedkar. Please remember that you don't have any copyrights of Ambedkar.
That,s the reason no one vote for congress although we know he is lawyer but he is not above national security, he is representing indirectly pakistan here and wasting court's time here.
@natural5584 do you know how many important cases are pending in supreme court , everyone know article 370 was the biggest problem in keeping peace in jand k, article 370 has gone but some antinational wants article 370 to come, no court is above national security of country and will of the people , if today there is survey about article 370 then 90% people will vote in favour of abrogation, sibal has received huge amount to represent pakistan and sepratists in supreme courts, so there is no surprise if u found any former mp or current serving congress leader linked to anti india things.
Indians should remember if Congress ever comes back..first thing they will do is put back article 370.
And what's wrong with that?
@@phunchu8202 women who had dowery issues were not able to legally fight against it with 370 in place.
Like that Child marriage was also allowed within 370 unlike test of India.
Does that sound right to you?
Before article 370 there were stone pelters, where are stone pelters now?
@@wanchooo29 why are you trying to educate blind leftists they don't know the meaning of nationalism, national security nothing stop wasting your time brother
Before there were media, now it is godi media then how would you know sitting in your house that there is stone pelters or not.
@@marz6526My dear friend, please be clear on one point. Andhnamaazis are stone pelters, not only in India but also in every corner of the world.
Congress and left people have gone mad
They are islamic brandishing themselves with green Secular tag see muslims they support Rahul because he is their hope for 2047 gzwa E Hind while Hindus are busy fighting for caste not dharma
The real face of congress
Referendum is only chosen when the parliament is unable to take a decision. So the lawmakers decide to give the decision to people directly. But in India it's not like that , parliament can pass resolutions
Naaah Referendums are only chosen when Parliament doesn't want to be responsible for a controversial or unpopular decision. Instead they do a lot of false advertising and stupid campaigning to dumb down the voters and making them vote for the decision they want by lying to them about their choice. Half the people who voted for Brexit voted for the wrong reasons and still has no idea what actually happened.
Will of the people is expressed through Parliament and Parliament took the decision.
So you're saying there never has been an incidence where Parliament took an unconstitutional decision that the SC overturned that you liked?
@@r0yce where does the question of unconstitutional decision arise.
Kapil wants a referendum. So if the other states ask a referendum, then what? Would he argue for a referendum
Wondering why the SC is entertaining the argument or discussion on referendum when the matter of the hearing is on abrogation of article 370 and 35A.
And of Ofcourse, Bringing up the referendum is the last resort on Kapil Sibal’s end when he figured he is fighting a losing battle…
Because it's democracy.
@@wanchooo29yep, good ol democracy
@@sympathiser_of_Germans_in_40s say what you want to say man.
This is how democracy works.
For Sibal money is religion, he will fight anything for money😅
Full support to the Government, Police and Military in securing the nation and eliminating Jihadi terrorism. Jai Hind 🇮🇳
On the first day of hearing itself it was clear to me Mr.Chandrachud will give his verdict in favour of the abrogation of Article 370 and 35A.
i read ur Comments than got shoked than again read ur user name so got the fact that pakistani's comment doesn't values here
This is how they ruled this country for the past 65 years...
Kapil Sibal tu kuch bhi karle Kashmir is and always be an integral part of Bharat .. Ja apna malik Pakistan ka chat le ja.. Jai Bharath 🚩🚩🚩
How come Mr. Sibbal refers BREXIT issue with Article 370 issue???? That relates to different countries and here J&K is an integral part of India!!! Does that mean Mr. Sibbal beleives that J&K is not part of India!!!!!
During discussions and arguments in courts, discussions often happen on jurisprudence. And when it comes to jurisprudence, it has no boundaries of any countries. It becomes a broader discussion about jurisprudence - science of law
@@Insightful_Truth can't disagree but do you think it sends a wrong MSG in the society as may not correlate or understand the "jurisprudence". However, will accept ur logic. Thanks for the insight.
When Jaichands are within why do we need enemies like Pak And PRC
In the first place, Mr. Kapil Sibal and Congress Party are mentally not prepared to accept Kashmir is an integral part of India. According to them It is a separate Nation, and Indian Government have no right to interfere in its Special Powers it has got under Article 370. But its security, peoples' welfare and everything to be taken care of by the Indian Government, with the money it collects from its citizens across the Country. For the last 7 Decades the Government might have spent several thousands of crores, sacrificed several hundreds of soldiers to keep intact of Kashmir's existance. After normalcy has been slowly being restored and the people of Kashmir are reaping the benefits of peaceful life, and integrating themselves with other regions people, some people are still provocating Kashmiris, that they are far superior than Indian Citizens and by birth have the luxury of enjoying the resources forever at the cost of the Nation.
You know about the art 371? Are the states like Gujarat, Mizoram, not a part of India since they come under Art 371?
Use your brain.
vote for congress if you want preachers like him in the future who will for sure remove article 370. they will not hesitate to sell our country for their own sake
Vote for BJP if you want people calling rapists sanskari and let them free.
Maybe you want sanskari rapists to visit your home? Is that it?
Highly respected supreme court judges, with your permission I am speaking in your court.
Ask this man kapil, this 370 made before this earth created.
Law can be made and also can be removed. This is all about people beneficiary, people get benefits from it, or without it.
Thanks for allowing me to talk in your court sir.
Sibbal charge crores for a single hearing, and still not winning a case in last couple of years. Be like him.
Kapil sibal must know how kashmir is important to india and what kind of emotions attached to indians
People who have ever voted for and want to vote for congress should be ashamed of themselves. Disgusted
This is the real face of congress and it's team . People should understand and vote them.
I watched a couple of videos on this and I like how the CJI puts forth his points in a calm way without raising his voice. Unlike the advocates who are adding a lot of emotion and drama while putting forth their arguments.
When u have such people inside the country itself we don't need enemies!
There are more important things than teaching/schooling overaged people who don't have any positive contribution.
After all taxpayers money has to be secured for benefit of country and its people.
When a client wants a lawyer to argue too much out of which mostly are superficial and not to the point, then he or she may jolly well engage him.
Some times Honourable CJI also has to become Head Master for these errant and headlong advocates, when they start asking out of line questions on constitution and put forward nation harming arguments for their lollipops.🦴🦴 Good that! CJI showed him his corner.👏 NO ! means NO!🐕.
If a junior had argued this case, SC would have dismissed this case with penalty. Only crore club can go on and on in the SC.
This is why Indian citizens are loosing trust on Judiciary system of India. Few Elite Lawyers are running the judiciary, this drama should be stopped immediately before it's too late.
Mast demography change hone Diya aur bol rahe hain refrendum karvao. What on earth Congress wants? Muslim league ya AIMIM hoga then one can understand that they are doing for their religion but these people are filled with hate towards India and Hindu and this hate is just for the sake of hate.
We did not take a referendum when we bifurcated states in UP,MP, Bihar .
The same way I'll never understand how someone can defend a rapist in Court, I'll never understand why anyone would ever say that the Abolition of Article 370 was wrong.
Now Kapil is going to abuse CJI 😂😂😂
Thanks CJI for clearing Mr Sibbal on the referendum.
Sir CJI you know what is happening in our country and I know that you are aware of it any step sir CJI you can take, if not then please don't pass justice to commen people please sir, that would be injustice sir CJI
Kapil sibbal is what one should not be...
They are just discussing.. your thumbnail was utter rubbish
Massive respect for CJI 🙏🇮🇳
No common people of India not only interested but also bothered much what is going on the court because everyone has their own work and no one is free
Only intelligent people will understand what kapil sibal is saying makes sense
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What CJI says also makes
It’s just different perspective
Its fascinating to see such intellectuals in India
Whenever I make my mood to vote for Congress in 2024, these kinds of videos comes in my suggestions automatically.
Sibal is congress, Congress is sibal 😇
its always good to criticize government but one should always support govt when its valid and in intrest of nation.. fact is no party is clean but khangress is worst it has damaged and will damage nation to the core.. majority in central is need of the hour and only bjp can do this i support majority till india reaches 10 trillion economy than i dont care abt party in central
Amit Shah: Jaan de denge iske liye.
Sibbal: Let the people decide.
CJI: No question of a referendum.
We now know who stands where.
Request the judges to throw this anti national out of court and revoke his practicing licence.
We have come down to filing suite asking to provide more power to a state in comparison to others. What if any other state where to do so ?
And then congress blame evm for their election results 😂
Nice to hear that both these experts value the sentiments of common people. When cases are pending since decades then why not dispose them off first instead of wasting time on article 370?
is it a waste of time you think
Did Nehru ji put in Article 370 after taking permission from the people of India,then why Mr Sibal is concerned about removing of article 370 without asking people of India.
It's a slap on the face of sibal type of people. CJI is right, referendum is not mentioned in our Constitution.
hit like if you won't vote congress for defending 370
His voice is good. Must think of playing strong father roles in films
Campus Law Centre's impression on the Indian jurisprudence is unparalleled!
you are from clc?
Thank you Sibal sir for sticking to the truth. Let the snakes bend themselves for power.
Pakistani
Kapil Dev should come to politics for defending Kapil sibal
Dev will bowl si - bal, take the wicket- wicked *
Kapil sibbal
Godi media on the job
Since there was no assembly courtesy broken fax machine how can people's will be understood
Indirectly sibal says that J&K is the paternal property of Sheik Abdullah. What a clown 🤡
We are very proud that we kicked communal BJP out of Karnataka! Rahul is the next PM
ನಾವು ಕರ್ನಾಟಕದಿಂದ ಕೋಮುವಾದಿ ಬಿಜೆಪಿಯನ್ನು ಒದ್ದು ಓಡಿಸಿದ್ದಕ್ಕೆ ತುಂಬಾ ಹೆಮ್ಮೆಯಿದೆ! ರಾಹುಲ್ಗಾಂಧಿ ಮುಂದಿನ ಪಿಎಂ ಜೈ ಕನ್ನಡಾಂಬೆ ಜೈ ಭಾರತಾಂಬೆ 🇮🇳
Yes Rahul Gandhi will become prime minister in dreams
What a fanatic U r
😂😂😂😂
Yavo ivella
Farid your community filmed Hindu woman naked In udupi Muslims talk of manipur not about their own community
the article removed is removed... it will never be restored again. A historical blunder corrected after 75 years...
This is their true colors. Imagine what will happen to our sovereignty if such clows are elected at centre.
First Fighting For PFI, Now This. Anything Anti National In The Courts, First Name To Appear Is Kapil Sibal.
I am waiting when I would say R.I.P to kapil sibal
Once Dr. Jaishankar said - 370 is history
But he didn't get it 😂😂😂
Imagine congress would have brought referendum process into this issue congress has just learnt to create mess of issues and set them for decades without swerving,,,,so they literally learnt to create permanent problems.
Excellently and Gentlemanly said by Lord
How shameful is that in Supreme court of "INDIA" someone is fighting for pakistan against india
Great for this lakhs of people lost their lives during freedom struggle
Sibal is one among senior most advocates.
But How can you skip Constitution in constutional democracy.
Never hoped this by Sibal. 😮
Why a referendum was not taken while partition
Comman man to CJI "there was no question of hearing of article 370 case in supreme court at all".
This sort of grand lawyers are endangering the integrity of our country.
Our founding fathers who allowed Kashmir's instrument of accession and their constitution in the first place endangered the integrity of our country.
its INDIA. Its our land we can die for it and will kill for it. whether he is insider or outsider who wants to break India.
Proper schooling to kapil sibal..
Karma at its best. The way sibbal treated baba ramdev and anna hazare, CJI treat him same way 😅😅
When they divided andhrapradesh congress didnot consult the asembly of undivided andhrapradesh
Still finding where cji schooled mr sibal if you want to see how cji school lawyers see the proceedings of shiva sena dispute 😂
KS and Khangress are extremely upset that there's 99.99% reduction in incidence of terrorism in Kashmir
Imagine govt asking permission from the public before making any decisions..🤦♂️.
Generally our Supreme Court has a weired sense of justice. Not this time 😅
The worst of experienced advocate comes in when he questions against unquestionable matter.
सुप्रीम कोर्ट ने सुनवाई चालू कर बेकार के लोगों को मुंह खोलने का मौका दिया
This particular lawyer will claim he was not born to his mother, if you give him enough fees!