227 - How to Install Urethane Bandsaw Tires
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Recently, I was making a routine cut at the bandsaw and noticed that the blade was behaving in an odd way. Out of the ordinary vibration and noise should never be ignored so I immediately stopped the cut and turned off the saw. Much to my surprise, I noticed that the bandsaw tire had partially migrated off of the the wheel and the blade was on it's way to doing the same. YIKES! It was pretty clear the tires were shot.
I've known about urethane bandsaw tires for some time now but never had a need or opportunity to install them, until now. I decided to film the process for your use and amusement. Here’s the set I picked up from Amazon: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000...
How much better is urethane than traditional rubber? I'm certainly no bandsaw tire expert but allow me to pass on some of what I discovered in my research as well as share my limited experience.
Durability: Urethane tires are more durable and last longer than rubber. I'm guessing the hot and dry Arizona air contributed to short life of my rubber bandsaw tires and I'm hoping the urethane will last longer.
No Cement: Rubber tires can sometimes require cement to keep them secured on the bandsaw wheel. This isn't always the case and I never had to use cement on my tires. Perhaps if I did, I wouldn't have experienced the slippage. Urethane tires do not require cement. No cement means easier installation and replacement if/when the time comes.
Quieter and Smoother-Running: This is an area folks typically experience a huge improvement. While I did notice it was indeed quieter and smoother-running, the different wasn't dramatic.
Cool color: Seriously. Bright orange? Yes please!
On the negative side, I have noticed that the tires pick up dust a lot faster than rubber tires. Routine cleanings should take care of that but it's something to be aware of.
If all of the above proves true, it seems like urethane is the clear choice for bandsaw tire replacement, especially since they seem to cost about the same as rubber tires. Keep in mind that not all saws can or should have urethane tires so consult with the manufacturer just to be safe.
If you have perfectly-functioning tires on your saw, don't run out and replace them with urethane. When your rubber tires are ready for replacement, do your research and consider the switch to urethane.
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Surprisingly, I have never had to replace a bandsaw tire over the past 4 decades of work. Always had a shop helper or someone else to do it. Now that it is just me, I had to learn. Definitely upgrading to urethane. Tried to install with the wheels on. YIKES! Even using a hair dryer, it wasn't gonna go. So happy I remembered that you had a video, Mark. Hopped over to the laptop, and got some schoolin'. Much better now. Thanks.
My blade came of on Wednesday night. Made me jump a bit. You couldn't have posted this at a better time. It's already apart but I ran out of time and am away for the weekend. I know what I'm doing when I get home. Big big thank you.
I just changed mine with the same ones you did. Old ones were 20 years old. Also changed the guide bearings. It runs great! I used a 1/4” socket extension, 6” long with my cordless drill to work the tire on. I clamped it in 2 places then stretched it with the wheels still on saw. Worked the extension in between and on slow mode the tire just went right in.
The clamping to the bench is what made the difference
Thanks man!
On my inherited bandsaw, it was missing the tire completely (!) from the top wheel and the tire on the bottom was dry rotted and falling apart. I got a pair of the blue urethane tires online, and was able to install them with the wheels still on the saw. Heating up the urethane, spring clamps, and a "helper" tool really speed the process up. What a difference new tires make!!
Excellent tutorial, I chose to replace mine without taking off the wheels. It worked really well. With it still on the shaft the wheel stayed in place and allowed for me to rotate in order to assist with putting the tire on. Once again thanks so much for the information, well done.
Thank you. Will try it thst way first. If you remove the wheels you have to reset the tracking no? If you don''t remove the wheels, do you have to reset tracking anyway?
Works like a charm. Many thanks for posting!!
I wish you could have done this video a a few months earlier. I managed to get mine changed but taking the wheels off the saw was an excellent idea. Its a good thing no one was around when I changed mine out. There were a few choice words involved.
About there being a few areas where the tire fits too tight, needing trimming with a razor blade... I have no doubt that Wood Whisperer has it right, in his case. However in mine the tire also had that appearance in a few places. The edge on the side from which the installation was done stuck up maybe 3/32'nds above the rim. But I then found that pressing down hard with my thumb caused a small snapping noise to be heard as the tire popped down into the proper position. There were a couple of stubborn places, so for those I used the edge of a small block of wood to push the tire edge inward and down. No cutting needed.
OK, I was watching this because surprise, my 18-inch Jet bandsaw tires were shot. Couple of useful tips in hindsight: I used my wife's dehydrator to heat the tires (she would kill me). Set it on 131 degrees F and just sat back for 10 minutes until they heated. I used gloves to handle them, but they were not very hot. It took 3 tries to get the first one on, but I was able (barely) to get the tires on by hand with no tools. It was not easy, like mini-stroke veins sticking out tough, but they went on. Pro tips: 1. Clamp the pulley down to the work bench. 2. Note that Jet has REVERSE THREADED PULLEY NUTS. A subtle point that about threw my back out until I looked harder. Good luck. Seems to run better now.
Great instructional video Marc. Glad you shared about the hot water tip.
A great tutorial Marc for future reference, when my tires need changing, which they surely will, this will be my guide.
Cheers
Mike
I wish I seen this before doing mine... clamping the wheel down looks like it made the job much much easier!
General 490 Bandsaw Setup & 1st Run & Urethane Tire Install
Don't know if you gave this any thought, but when you are struggling to stretch the tire you are only able to stretch the section of tire that isn't between the clamps. The length of tire that's between the two clamps is immune to your stretching efforts, due to the clamps you put on there. That's why the directions say to put a clamp to hold the beginning, but doesn't say anything about a second clamp. Now if, like me, you need to pause for a rest (!) then, yeah, put a second clamp on to hold your place. But take it off when you resume stretching. : )
Thanks for bringing this up Marc. I checked out my 14 and yikes, a bit ripped up. So I have a pair ordered. Thanks.
If you have a J-Roller (thingy you use to apply laminate to surfaces with contact cement), the J-Roller does a nice job of flattening out the tire on the wheel.
Two questions hoping they might get answered on a 7 year old video haha
1. Why don't people upvote? If you watched the video and found absolutely any part of it useful, help the creator out, they took time to make this and you watched it for free, share the love people
2. I just bought an older bandsaw and need to replace the tires. My research tells me I need to but urethane tires that are 2" smaller than the diameter of the wheel. My wheel measures about 5/16" shy of 14". Does this mean I buy a 12" tire, or is a 12" tire properly sized down for a 12" wheel and what I really need is a 14" tire as I have a 14" bandsaw. The description of the tires on amazon don't give me enough information to feel confident in purchasing.
Thanks if someone happens to get back and thanks for the video
Thanks. I was able to install my new tires after heating them up in water. Thanks for providing this video. My bandsaw and I thank you.
Nice! Another bonus? You don't have to crown them! Love urethane.
Great demo. I've got some on order for my old Craftsman saw.
I find that using a single clamp makes the installation easier, and I can do it by hand. When you use 2 clamps the way you did, you end up clamping a portion of the unstretched tire in place limiting its ability to stretch with the other portion. So, when you stretch the tire, only 3/4 of the tire stretches making it much harder to install. Using a single clamp allows the entire tire to stretch.
Great advice and helpful tips and tricks, now all I need to do is get my hands on a band saw... soon, soon enough... :) Thanks for the upload!
good informative video marc, I never thought of urethane tyres. or how to install them, good tip using hot water to soften them. thanks for posting the video.
Regards Shayne......
Task complete, Thank you Sir!
This has helped me a lot. The heating of the tire must be controlled stay no hotter than 170 degrees T and don't burn 🔥 your hands this will help tremendously.
Monsignor Ray
Good timing.
I'm due.
Thanks Marc.
This helped me so much thanks for posting this quick video
I like you video very much. I like how you get to it and don't waste time.
Saludos son muy útiles y practicas las enseñanzas me da mas seguridad en mi trabajo gracias sigan adelante con las ideas geniales felicitaciones
VERY helpful. Thank you. My tyres just broke.
Wood dowel tool = VERY smart! Good Job :)
Thanks worked great 👍🏼
Great up grade Mark, I have heard a lot of positives about this you'll have to do a follow up after a little use.
thank you for sharing
totally helped thanks!
thank you. you saved my day.
I do question the heating of the wheel though. The heating may cause it to anneal at the new diameter. Being that it is plastic and not rubber this can happen. It makes it easier to put on, but there is a reason why they are made to the diameter that they are made.
Good day Mark and thanks for the video.
Quick question - what make and model of band saw are you using?
Are you happy with it.
Thanks Rod
Very good information. Thank you. I am a little surprised that you didn't already have an upgrade though.
No need. The rubber tires worked fine until that point. I don't actually recommend the upgrade until replacement is needed.
Have you tried to carter tires.they seem to be really good tires with great results thanks for the post
OMG that bandsaw is soooooooooooo clean
Just had to change mine because it did the same thing; tire just came off the wheel. It looked like urethane tires too so I don't know what the deal was with that one, but it looked like it was time anyways. Added 2 drops of dawn in the 140 degree water to help lubricate it onto the wheel and it worked perfectly. I didn't even need to clamp it; just had to stretch and slide it on.
Thank you 🙏
I think my little old bandsaw needs a tire replacement and quite a bit of tlc too. Not sure i can get tge upgrade on the machine i have. Still, its good to see how its done. Thanks
Do you think the denatured alcohol will take off old adhesive? I'm refurbing a neglected band saw and the top wheel had a ton of glue and the bottoms had none.
Worked for me. No trimming needed. I guess it helps that I have the same bandsaw..
My band saw blade is worn out. Do you have any recommendations ???/ I usually use my band saw to saw bowl blanks. Thanks, John
you have the greatest damn shirts every video.
Have bought such from America when a tyre broke on my bandsaw this summer. Havent got them yet though. Probably stuck in custom and only place I found them was from American stores.
Thank you so much for giving me the excellent idea of removing the wheels and doing the tire installation on my work bench. It made a frustrating experience into a controllable one. Done! I soaked the new tires in a bath of near boiling water for ten minutes, quickly dried them and stretched them on with the aide of two holdfasts, four quick clamps, two screwdrivers and only a few mild curses.
Thanks for the info. I have to replace mine also.
I just bought an older "14" inch band saw. cant figure out the manufacturer though. Wheels measure 13 and 3/4 across though? Do I need a specially sized tire? Anyone have any tricks for figuring out the manufacture?
"Tired" of writing these... I got it! But now I guess you need a new bandsaw because your's is "retired."
Tyres are a great upgrade. But otherwise always glue your rubbers to avoid them expanding or slipping.
Clamps wouldn’t work on my wheels so I used tie wraps. Went better than I expected. Didn’t even cuss.
Here is how to install tires - by NOT doing it. Let me save you a lot of money and time. We run a commercial cabinet shop with several bandsaws. Tired of the issues with poor tires, we experimented with several wraps of high quality hi-temp duct tape and Scotch 3M #33 electrical tape. Perfect results for little money and many years of service on each wheel. Either one works, I prefer the Vinyl #33 tape, it is amazing for electrical uses even submerged in water as with submersible pumps. As a bandsaw tire, it is bombproof. Try it and love it.
Richard Raucina interesting .can you make a video of you doing that?
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Nice vid - same music as ***** uses!
Crap. My bottom wheel wasn't reverse threaded. Now it's super fdup. Make sure you check first. It's a pretty big deal.
No adhesive needed??
Yes, taking the wheels off is the key. Here's another, instead of the homemade stick, use a nylon bicycle tire changing "iron"
I have the same shirt lol
I'm no expert, nor do I pretend to be one, but the manufacturer of my urethane tires doesn't recommend heating them at all. Per Sulphur Grove Tool, says this in their packaging:
"There is a lot of bad information about heating up tires to install them They will be easier to install while hot but this can ruin your tires. If you choose to heat them for installation, soak them in water no hotter than your tap or 140 degrees."