The Guitar of Siouxsie and the Banshees: John McGeoch. Goth Broth episode 2

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  • @CIRCLEOFTONE
    @CIRCLEOFTONE  Před 4 lety +22

    Around 1:22 = Epic drum (Anthony Fantano voice) traaaaaansition czcams.com/video/TjvvK-Rj0WI/video.html

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE  Před 4 lety +2

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    • @spatulasnout
      @spatulasnout Před 4 lety +3

      Thinking you meant 1:40 ("Phil Collins type of a solo") into 1:52 ("Satan's sleigh is coming towards you").

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE  Před 4 lety +3

      @@spatulasnout yep. But buildup is key when it comes to transitions but good point.

    • @Adam_Oreo98
      @Adam_Oreo98 Před 3 lety +1

      That was always my favorite part too. The drums on Juju are fantastic and the production is just perfect.

  • @JMBell
    @JMBell Před 4 lety +149

    McGeoch was brilliant (I repeat myself). Put him together with Budgie, Severin and Sioux and it's an unusual congregation of talent. The like will never happen again. Severin had a great bass sound, Budgie was a highly creative drummer and Siouxsie has no equal. No post-2000s group really compares to the Banshees.

    • @resofactor
      @resofactor Před 4 lety +7

      Would agree.
      None touch that line-up.

    • @edenbeats.8569
      @edenbeats.8569 Před 3 lety

      The Strokes, maybe.

    • @tristansmyth6802
      @tristansmyth6802 Před 3 lety +1

      Totally agree, that lineup was fantastic..

    • @macristina5738
      @macristina5738 Před 3 lety +13

      ​@@edenbeats.8569 The Strokes?
      They don't even come close in any possible way.

    • @edenbeats.8569
      @edenbeats.8569 Před 3 lety +2

      @@macristina5738 I disagree, I'd say MBV, The Strokes and Arctic Monkeys all come close.
      Cheers for that Niandra LaDes profile pic, tho.

  • @RiverOfBlacklights
    @RiverOfBlacklights Před rokem +21

    Man, what a video! This was AWESOME! I really miss Siouxsie & The Banshees and one of my guitar heroes will always be the late, great John McGeoch. As a bass player myself, Steven Severin is one of my bass heroes as well. Thanks for taking the time to shine the spotlight on McGeoch. It's downright criminal how he has influenced so many great players and yet, rarely if ever gets any credit or mention.
    I remember when I heard the news of his passing. I remember going to a retail store and while my mom shopped around for things we needed, I used to just go to the book and magazine section and read all the new music mags on the racks (I didn't have internet back then). I flipped through the pages and my eye caught the mention of Siouxsie & The Banshees. That's when I heard of his passing. That was a crap day for sure.
    I also love the John McKay and John Carruthers eras of S&TB. Don't get me wrong, I love the other guitarists like Pirroni, Smith, McCarrick, Klein and Chandler (though his stint was super brief) but, those 3 are my favorite. Again, hats off to you for having taken the time to make this video!
    _P.S. You are right that not many people recognize Siouxsie in that TV interview (@ __13:59__) with the Sex Pistols and even less people would recognize Steven Severin there as well. He is the one standing at the far left with the 2-tone hair. Also, if you're interested, check out the Curious Creatures podcast hosted by Budgie and Lol Tolhurst (The Cure). Budgie talks about McGeoch every now and then. A podcast "must" for any Banshees and Cure fan!_
    John McGeoch R.I.P...

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE  Před rokem +3

      That's cool man. Huge loss. I've done vids on Marco Adam and the Ants era, Killing Joke, The Cure that you may like too. Thanks for the tip on the pod.

    • @pierrebarrauddelagerie
      @pierrebarrauddelagerie Před rokem +1

      i agree, i will only add Robert Smith to my list, his guitar and composition work on Hyaena is huge (in my opinion, even better than his later guitar work)

  • @KowankoMusic
    @KowankoMusic Před 4 lety +71

    He was one of the all time greats. So inventive, an endless source of hair-raising inspiration.

  • @plasticbudgie
    @plasticbudgie Před 4 lety +42

    The guitarist that blatantly inspired who i believe to be one of the most influencial guitarists of the 80's 'Johnny Marr'

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE  Před 4 lety +16

      Yep. Marr loves talking about McGeoch. The respect is massive.

  • @kaganozdemir4332
    @kaganozdemir4332 Před 3 lety +12

    Spellbound is much, much harder to play than modern metal riffs. Agree with you on that one. And thanks for the video, you are one of those rare people in the guitar world who give him enough spotlight

  • @angularsquare8757
    @angularsquare8757 Před 4 lety +33

    Spellbound is a long term project for me. It's that picking pattern that took a long time to get. Its actually not too bad to finger pick, but with a plectrum it's a challenge to get it as smooth as John. Lots of A string to the B and E jumps. The biggest help to me was the Anyone Can Play Guitar CZcams video on Spellbound.

    • @mattgilbert7347
      @mattgilbert7347 Před 3 lety +8

      That guy nailed it. Its the best lesson for anyone attempting this deceptive and tricky song.

    • @acceptancecorp.4736
      @acceptancecorp.4736 Před 3 lety +1

      I've been working my way up to the song's tempo, starting at 85bpm just to get the basic coordination down pat. Now at 125bpm about a week later, with the target tempo being 152bpm.

    • @Pulsonar
      @Pulsonar Před 3 lety +5

      I totally agree, Adrian is a very accomplished player does the best Spellbound cover and is a superb teacher. This is a very good channel too, but different- great anecdotes and background stories.

    • @Bruisewillies
      @Bruisewillies Před rokem

      I'm working my way through it too. I can get all the parts individually, but seamlessly linking the picking and strumming parts is aitch-ay-ar-dee! Even Robert Smith struggled playing it.

  • @davidellis5141
    @davidellis5141 Před 4 lety +49

    John Mcgeoch & Geordie were the ultimate post punk guitarists. The Chameleons had 2 guitarists to get a similiar sound.

    • @alexanderbrown4250
      @alexanderbrown4250 Před 4 lety +1

      Just saw Geordie in Milwaukee last week. Fierce player still.

    • @arnaudwest4753
      @arnaudwest4753 Před 4 lety

      Not sure the purpose of the 2 Chameleon's guitarists was to sound like other bands. That's what they said in an interview ?

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE  Před 4 lety

      I did Geordie here: czcams.com/video/aJRrwmfT5uc/video.html

    • @lennertcornette
      @lennertcornette Před 4 lety +1

      Awesome when people now the Chameleons, it's one of my favorite bands, yet very unkown.

    • @miguelrodriguez4498
      @miguelrodriguez4498 Před 3 lety +2

      I do agree with you to a certain degree, I think the chams needed both reg & Dave or the band wouldn’t sound the way they did. I feel like you need that in some bands just because it is such an integral part of the sound. Same with the banshees & KJ, I think if those bands had two guitarists they wouldn’t sound anywhere near the way they should.

  • @Laura_Pleasants
    @Laura_Pleasants Před měsícem +1

    Mad props. He is one of my all time favorite players!!! RIP to a truly unique legend.

  • @bennyshambles
    @bennyshambles Před 4 lety +5

    John McGeoch is definitely one of the genius Post-Punk guitarists and has been very underrated in that recognition. It seems like his profile has grown in the past decade or so, but that could also just be the CZcams effect. "Into the Light" and "Happy House" are my favorite of his Banshees guitar performances. His guitar playing throughout the entirety of Magazine's "Secondhand Daylight" is also amazing.

  • @terrypussypower
    @terrypussypower Před rokem +5

    Cool vid. John McGeoch was a genius. I love his Banshees stuff, but I’m obsessed by his Magazine work! Him and Barry Adamson made that band.

  • @josefk.122
    @josefk.122 Před rokem +5

    Loved this! McGeoch *is* my favorite guitarist of all time. Excellent video!

  • @asparagusbear3323
    @asparagusbear3323 Před 4 lety +21

    You can definitely tell Johnny Marr was a fan.

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE  Před 4 lety

      Yep. I think he said he's one of his top 3 guitar players

  • @FromaTwistedMind
    @FromaTwistedMind Před 2 lety +4

    John was groundbreaking & underrated.
    Great video BTW.
    He Hugh Cornwell & Captain Sensible are my 3 top guitarists.

  • @EliteRock
    @EliteRock Před 4 lety +4

    McGeoch's guitar was often so understated and subtle, he was clearly a true musician, not an egotist and wannabe "star". Check out _The Light Pours Out Of Me_ on the first Magazine album - that riff, right back in the mix so you almost don't realise it's there, but contributing so much atmosphere to the number. (ETA >> I do realise it's as simple a part as could be, a single, staccato chord, but still .....).

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE  Před 4 lety +1

      Well spotted. He was so understated not many people knew he was in PIL for longer than any guitarist.

  • @gentGTR
    @gentGTR Před 4 lety +11

    I thought you were going to say that his parts were easy to play. I'm glad you gave him his proper respect at the end. John McGeoch was amazing. Cheers.

  • @bennyshambles
    @bennyshambles Před 4 lety +21

    John McKay was a fucking amazing guitar player too; his work on the Scream and Join Hands is phenomenal. "Jigsaw Feeling", "Switch", "Placebo Effect" and "Regal Zone" all feature some very creative Punk guitar mutations.
    What's interesting about the Banshees' guitarist Johns is that they both played saxophone as well guitar. Also, they both used guitars with beefier, warmer "Rock" tones (McKay mainly used a Les Paul Custom and McGeoch had his Yamaha SG 1000) as opposed to the de rigueur Post-Punk preference for brighter Fender guitars (Robert Smith and his Jazzmasters, Rowland S. Howard and his Jaguar, etc.).

  • @polyphemae
    @polyphemae Před rokem +3

    I like the way you style the chops of this tune your own way - fabulous and inspiring. Nice one.

  • @adzbox
    @adzbox Před 4 lety +5

    The fact you say you struggle with spellbound makes me feel better. 😆

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE  Před 4 lety +2

      Hehe. He's an alien.

    • @adzbox
      @adzbox Před 4 lety +2

      He's a genius. It was because I was looking for videos of him a came across your channel.

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE  Před 4 lety +2

      @@adzbox Good to know. Glad you found me.

  • @lovetheghost4485
    @lovetheghost4485 Před 4 lety +13

    Dreamy sounds from a Master... great job with this video, Sir

  • @dorothysboy1
    @dorothysboy1 Před rokem +2

    McGeoch influence on future music cannot be denied. I was scratched fiercely by, Spellbound. It's lyrics are powerful and dark. When I first heard this song I instantly fell in love with this amazingly talented group of individuals. Wow!!!!❤️👍

  • @myshelby500gt
    @myshelby500gt Před 4 lety +12

    I applaud you for such great playing you cover these perfectly.
    They were one of my favourite bands growing up.
    John McGeoch would be proud of your playing.
    John McGeoch RIP.

  • @MusicTherapyLaz
    @MusicTherapyLaz Před 4 lety +5

    Dude...such a killer episode! Love those bands...was so into the punk/new wave sound of the 80's...Goth Broth! Awesome...learned a bunch and will be searching for some hidden gems at the record store...yes, LP's, if I can find them! 😎🎸

  • @alejandrohualdez5550
    @alejandrohualdez5550 Před 4 lety +11

    Captain Sensible is another great underrated guitarist...check out their Strawberries album...wow!!!

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE  Před 4 lety +4

      Yep. I'm listening to him as we speak. Love song. He stole the amp from Mick Ronson for that song. Haha

    • @Ronno4691
      @Ronno4691 Před 4 lety +2

      Sensible certainly had a pretty productive streak from 1979 onwards. As a young teen, Punk Rock was the perfect outlet for new teens whose hormones were pogoing all over the place! Punk Rock made the B-side fashionable again and flipping the 7" of Love Song over to hear what the two songs Suicide and Noise Noise Noise sounded like, I was hooked. The whole Machine Gun Etiquette album was my favourite guitar hero album at the time.

  • @FrancisF23
    @FrancisF23 Před 4 lety +10

    Saw Siouxsie and the lads at Hammersmith Odeon in 1977: the support was The Human League (pre-girlies).
    You tell young people today, and they won't believe ya!

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE  Před 4 lety

      That's awesome

    • @screwbags
      @screwbags Před 4 lety

      Did the Banshees really play Hammersmith Odeon before they even had a record deal? I was intrigued, but can't find anything online to suggest it happened.

    • @FrancisF23
      @FrancisF23 Před 4 lety +1

      @@screwbags I questioned the date after posting it, actually. A couple of links give Nov. 1978, so I was only a year out. :-) There was a power cut in the middle of the Banshees' set! SS was not happy...

    • @CelticSaint
      @CelticSaint Před 4 lety

      Hammersmith Odeon. Luxury!

  • @michaelng4141
    @michaelng4141 Před 4 lety +2

    Much thanks for this. John is criminally overlooked

  • @petercushion9780
    @petercushion9780 Před 4 lety +5

    Good work Owen. Years ago without ever really listening them I had this idea in my head that the banshees were another hamfisted punk band. They are definitely not. I especially love the albums they did with McGeoch. He was /is a really interesting guitar player.

  • @benjaminlinus2792
    @benjaminlinus2792 Před 4 lety +2

    Thank you so much for this section of your channel. You're digging into best music there is.

  • @Vaifan1981
    @Vaifan1981 Před 4 lety +11

    Frank Navetta of the Descendents also rocked Yamaha SG2000 in the early 80s

    • @galetinm
      @galetinm Před 4 lety +2

      McGeoch used a SG 1000. This is an Eastwood McGeoch 1000.

  • @polyphemae
    @polyphemae Před rokem +2

    The thing about McGeoch is that his playing liberates us, We start focusing on own individual creativity. I haven't found any McGeoch clones on YT...

  • @Adam_Oreo98
    @Adam_Oreo98 Před 3 lety +10

    I really love Monitor off of Juju. That little opening riff is perfect and I love how he's just constantly playing different picking variations throughout the song.

  • @crazylikeafox1000
    @crazylikeafox1000 Před 4 lety

    Thank you. John was always my favorite SATB guitarist. Brings back many memories.

  • @mrsenorsalami
    @mrsenorsalami Před 4 lety +31

    He bought so much life to those records, also in Magazine.
    Geordie Walker next!?

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE  Před 4 lety +5

      The Damned is next, then Geordie and Killing Joke. As it happens Geordie was on the shortlist before McGeoch joined the Banshees. .

    • @mrsenorsalami
      @mrsenorsalami Před 4 lety +2

      @@CIRCLEOFTONE Maybe Stuart Adamson, East Bay Ray, Nicky Wire,.
      Love your work brother from sunny Australia via Southampton in the 80's

    • @mrsenorsalami
      @mrsenorsalami Před 4 lety

      Zal Cleminson would be a great visual treat too

    • @davidellis5141
      @davidellis5141 Před 4 lety +1

      @@CIRCLEOFTONE Geordie , one of the most under rated guitarists from under rated band who have had songs covered by both Mettalica & Foo Fighters ! On tour now with Tool.

    • @maciiikZH
      @maciiikZH Před 4 lety

      @@mrsenorsalami Stuart Adamson's Scared to Dance guitar ;)

  • @christopherecatalano
    @christopherecatalano Před 4 lety +2

    One of the greatest albums ever recorded. Haunting and really quite terrifying in places. Such an inventive guitarist...Thank you for making this series!

  • @miketunky2277
    @miketunky2277 Před 4 lety +1

    This is brilliant. He is my favourite guitarist ever, much underrated. Sadly I didn’t see him with the Banshees but did see him with PIL at Reading 1992. Awesome. Died far too young and a great shame he just gave up on his immense talent to go into something else towards the end of his life.

  • @VostoxVI
    @VostoxVI Před 15 dny

    Excellent video here. I'm a bassist myself but, John McGeoch will always be one of my all-time favorite guitarists.
    Hopefully the new planned biopic of his life will shine the spotlight upon him like he rightfully deserved/deserves.
    Like you, I also made a tribute video to John McGeoch's memory (though, on bass) and I hope to make more featuring other material he played on...

  • @DisjectaMembra
    @DisjectaMembra Před 4 lety +5

    Great video, first time I've seen your channel, just subbed. There's really nothing like this for goth and post-punk guitar players, so thanks for filling the void. I think you pulled off Spellbound really well too. To pronounce Severin, listen to the VU song Venus in Furs. He's also in your screen shot of the Pistols on the BBC (back left), and one of the Bromley Contingent. Original lineup for that first gig was Sioux, Severin, Marco, and Sid Vicious on drums. Still on the subject of underrated Banshees guitarists, would love to hear your take on John Valentine Curruthers. Keep up the great work man, cheers!

  • @quintessenceSL
    @quintessenceSL Před 4 lety +2

    Oh hell, I will have to subscribe now as you could mine this era of music for years to cover all the weird sounds that were coming out. From Rikk Agnew to Mark C. to Daniel Ash- there was just a barrage of weird sounds coming out.
    Especially useful for those of us who want to use this as a jumping off point, but have no idea of where to begin.
    Thanks mate.

  • @LightFromADeadStar
    @LightFromADeadStar Před rokem +1

    John McGeoch is my guitar hero always

  • @anthonyfisher5076
    @anthonyfisher5076 Před rokem +1

    lovit nice tone jeez,
    and wonderfully informative , thanks for the research you did wow spot on .
    your very inspiring and a amazing guitarist/bassist and producer.
    also really good stuff from your old projects

  • @BedeLaplume
    @BedeLaplume Před 3 lety +1

    Totally agree with your assessment.of J. Geoch's talent..Also J McKay as you said did a great job especially on Hong Kong garden and the Staircase (mystery) songs..

  • @thedukeofchortlebury9124
    @thedukeofchortlebury9124 Před 4 lety +4

    Commendable mate, I really enjoyed watching and listening to your synopsis of McGeoch, and really really looking forward to your coverage of Geordie Walker too = )

  • @GolgothaBlack
    @GolgothaBlack Před 3 lety +1

    This was the exact kind of video I was looking for!

  • @SteveMurrayMusic
    @SteveMurrayMusic Před 4 lety +2

    Really Cool Video, The SG 1000 is a great guitar I'm sure eastwood does a good job with them.. Great Sound And Mix..

  • @machmen1000
    @machmen1000 Před 4 lety +3

    Love Siouxie and the Banshees. Sevrin and Mcgeogh were so original.

  • @michaelhoskins6579
    @michaelhoskins6579 Před 4 lety +1

    McGeoch was a superb talent. His use of effects was so interesting. The best guitarist of his era. The Banshees had some great guitarists. John Valentine Carruthers was a damn good guitarist too.

  • @cumshotdelux
    @cumshotdelux Před 4 lety +3

    Johns daughter Emily use to come & watch a band I use to be in years ago got to know her quite well even gave me one of his old PIL t shirts,

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE  Před 4 lety

      That's awesome. I wonder if she has any demos of his last work with his own band?

    • @cumshotdelux
      @cumshotdelux Před 4 lety +1

      No idea about his last work, last time I spoke to her about 10/12 years ago she was in the process of selling off all his guitars

  • @moonglimmers
    @moonglimmers Před 4 lety +1

    John McGeoch was a Genius. Thanks for sharing.

  • @booklover3959
    @booklover3959 Před 4 lety

    Sir, you know how to make a truly great video on the history of the guitar playing and musical instruments and devices of a great player. Your video is full of entertaining and knowledge increasing information. You have the knack for singling out the unique and what gives the playing pizzaz and mystique. And your passion is infectious along with your consummate taste. Kudos and thanks.

  • @edwardmulholland7912
    @edwardmulholland7912 Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you for showing us how good he was, and how good you are.

  • @chadwilliams8583
    @chadwilliams8583 Před rokem +1

    Man you slapped a home run with this one!!!I've watched this one at least 10 times!!love it!!!!

  • @marcraygun6290
    @marcraygun6290 Před 3 lety +1

    Ju Ju what an album

  • @The.Last.Guitar.Hero.
    @The.Last.Guitar.Hero. Před 4 lety +2

    Loved McGeoch and the SG1000 also played by Stuart Adamson

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE  Před 4 lety +1

      Yep that guitar is still holding a good price for good reason.

  • @kevfullo
    @kevfullo Před 4 lety

    Great video, I'm glad to see you have real love for John McGeoch. I tried playing spellbound because I thought it would be piss next to Magazine tunes. Sweet baby Jesus it's impossible you did a good job there mate.

  • @Gonzo2707
    @Gonzo2707 Před 4 lety +2

    Thanks so much, great vid about one of the most underrated guitar greats.

  • @BatEatsMoth
    @BatEatsMoth Před 4 lety +1

    This is the song that introduced me to gothic rock. I saw the video in the early 80's on Mtv. Scary, miserable, frenetic and seductive all rolled up in one. It scared the crap out of my mother, but I wanted more. Never had I heard a song or type of music so stunning. I was hooked for life.

  • @iainswales1903
    @iainswales1903 Před 4 lety

    ''Thankyou, for it is not often I hear today's Guitar players even mention John McGeoch, never mind hear many people praise his playing style in the way you did here. I have to agree with You, I always loved John McGeoch's Sounds & Styles since hearing Magazine's first album, 'Real Life' in 1978, which was the year I left school at 16, right through his career, I finally saw him play live with P.I.L. in Preston UK in 1986. The most under-rated Guitar Genius but I think he'd have preferred it that way. He struck Me as a reluctant Guitar Hero. The way you've re-created his sound & style also in your video is great. You've certainly done your homework. It's great for Me Your mention & appreciation of Steve Severin & Budgie too. What a line up that was. I cut my teeth as a musician, beginning on Drums, listening to Siouxsie & The Banshees, Sisters Of Mercy, The Cuilt, David Bowie & The Doors. During the UK's 'Goth Scene circa 1982 - 85. It was a great time to be 22 and a budding musician. Thanks for this Tribute and I shall subscribe & look forward to more.'' Regards I.S. North UK. x

  • @woodycfc3429
    @woodycfc3429 Před 4 lety +5

    I saw John McGeocs first official gig with the Banshees in 1980.

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE  Před 4 lety +2

      That's awesome.

    • @woodycfc3429
      @woodycfc3429 Před 4 lety +1

      @@CIRCLEOFTONE The Banshees were my 1st ever gig age 13 in 1978.

    • @gentGTR
      @gentGTR Před 4 lety +2

      You are very lucky!

    • @woodycfc3429
      @woodycfc3429 Před 4 lety

      @Black Sun No Leeds Queens Hall Futurama Festival 1980 was his official first gig they did about 4 before that as Janet & the ice bergs played Nottingham Boat club & few others.

  • @The1stMrJohn
    @The1stMrJohn Před 4 lety

    John McGeoh was very important to the late 70s and early 80s by bringing originality and colour to many bands. I loved his sounds from the first time I heard him, which I'm guessing was probably playing for Magazine, but it's a long time ago!
    👍🎵😀🎸⭐

  • @anthonyyoutubefan7567
    @anthonyyoutubefan7567 Před 4 lety +7

    I liked your rendition of "Spellbound" (I liked the unique version you did, it sounds like something McGeoch would do, and approve of; it also sounds very "Tinderbox-y"...JVC did things like that with his mighty (and subtle) power chords)...it reveals just how good Banshee tunes are, even when they're just instrumentals. I agree, Steven Severin seems to be underrated..his bass playing is unique, esp. because his instrument had a very prominent part/role in his band. Yes, John McKay is the originator of the "Banshees sound". I was hoping you would play McGeoch's exotic riff/melody/arpeggio from, "Israel". What's sad is: Siouxsie seriously wished to ask (but didn't) McGeoch to tour with her and Budgie, when they did their Hai/Dreamshow Tour in 2004, but he wasn't well, and soon died. Since his death, I've always hoped that somewhere in his vaults/tapes, he has long-form guitar tunes, riffs, and instrumentals that his Wife would offer out to some of the artists he's worked with., including Siouxsie, to create new material with. If Siouxsie ever records a second solo LP, I want her to do a cover of Magazine's, "The Light Pours Out of Me"; since it was the tune that got S&TB to seek out McGeoch. Cool seeing you holding the 2 guitars from the 1980 to 1982 era.

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE  Před 4 lety +1

      Yep he had his own band that he was working on. I would love to hear any demos etc that he may have done. I think it was called Pacific.

    • @mindtpi
      @mindtpi Před 3 lety +1

      You can get an Israel tutorial from Anyone Can Play Guitar on CZcams including the riff you're after

  • @kevinsturges6957
    @kevinsturges6957 Před 4 lety +1

    Fantastic post!!

  • @pittbrat7963
    @pittbrat7963 Před rokem +1

    so very underrated musician! Love his playing, sound and especially those Yamaha SG's are incredible!

  • @spookyoyster4014
    @spookyoyster4014 Před 2 lety +3

    Please can you cover the sound of The Chameleons?! I absolutely love your videos and music picks.

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE  Před 2 lety +2

      Great suggestion

    • @RiverOfBlacklights
      @RiverOfBlacklights Před rokem

      Hell yes! Dave Fielding and Reg Smithies are two other unsung heroes who have been denied their rightful place in the spotlight for far too long....
      John Lever R.I.P...

  • @AL_1991
    @AL_1991 Před 3 lety

    this was really good brother. I'm still waiting on that disintegration album tone episode! cheers!

  • @mattgilbert7347
    @mattgilbert7347 Před 3 lety +1

    Spellbound is cleverly constructed. Methinks Johnny Marr was definitely a McGeoch fan.
    Those Yamaha SGs were phenomenal guitars. I believe that both Zappa and Santana used them at some point (not a fan of the latter, but it goes to show how versatile that guitar can be).
    The Roland is a great amp to match up with a valve amp as a wet/dry rig - or as part of a Master/Slave rig. I think Bob Mould used a Roland and a Fender (maybe a twin) as a four-amp rig, with the Fenders driving the Rolands. He also used the same Eventide unit as McGeoch. Very different guitarists, but both had killer live tone (Mould's didn't translate as well to record, at least in the early HD years),

  • @ls6660
    @ls6660 Před 4 lety +3

    Steve Severin is in that Bill Grundy clip with the Pistols too. That's him directly behind Steve Jones.

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE  Před 4 lety

      Yep I noticed that after I uploaded and watched it. Hehe.

  • @resofactor
    @resofactor Před 4 lety +9

    Kaleidoscope, JuJu, and Kiss in the Dreamhouse (along with Nocturne) are simply the BEST Siouxsie & the Banshees albums. Ever!

    • @franckt263
      @franckt263 Před 2 lety +1

      Itis not relevant to compare the Banshees MK1 with giutarist John McKay and SATB Mk2 with McGeoch. Not the same dynamics, not the same type of songs

    • @edwardmorris3453
      @edwardmorris3453 Před 7 měsíci

      I like Tinderbox the best of their albums. The songs were just better. John Valentine Carruthers mighta stole his sound from earlier Banshee guitarists. I don't know. I think Tinderbox is analogous to the mid-seventies Dylan triptych. He got the reputation first, and then years later he grew into it. Also analogous is the fact that Dylan fans always go to his early stuff, like Siouxsie fans. Kaleidoscope had some good track for sure. Desert Kisses stands out or me. Real Goth right there. Not eerie, exactly. More like, it creates an atmosphere of desolation and inevitability and ancientness and doom. Another early Banshees song I like a lot is Israel. Like Rock the Casbah, it reminds us that once punk rockers were not sleeping with Islamo-fascists. And also, it's funky as get-out.

  • @modsleix6
    @modsleix6 Před 3 lety +1

    Awesome video here. McGeoch is most certainly one of the most criminally underrated and overlooked guitarists ever (as most musicians are in Post Punk, Goth, New Wave, Darkwave, Coldwave etc. and other similar genres. I have long said that Budgie (in my honest opinion) should have been asked by Smith to join The Cure after Williams departed. Budgie is the only one who I think can really rival and even surpass what Williams did behind the drum kit.
    Steven Severin despite being an awesome bassist, also wrote/co-wrote tons if not most of the lyrics for the songs and to this day remains a personal hero of mine. John McKay, Kenny Morris, John V. Carruthers, John Kline, Martin McCarrick - all awesome musicians that each brought something of value to the band and augmented it in so many ways.
    A nod in your direction for shedding the spotlight on John McGeoch (R.I.P...). Here are some other awesome guitarists that are just as criminally underrated and overlooked. Maybe some might grace Goth Broth someday (even if they're not really Goth but, as most of us know, all those genres are intertwined and linked so they're all one big family in musical references):
    Dave Fielding and Reg Smithies - The Chameleons
    Paul Reynolds - A Flock Of Seagulls
    Jamie West-Oram - The Fixx
    Elliot Easton - The Cars
    James Honeyman-Scott - The Pretenders
    Bernard Sumner - Joy Division/New Order
    Philippe Planchon - Asylum Party
    John Aston - The Psychedelic Furs
    Daniel Ash - Bauhaus/Tones On Tail/Love & Rockets/Poptone
    Russell Bell - Gary Numan/Dramatis
    Robert Holmes - 'Til Tuesday
    Gary McDowell - Modern English
    Marty Wilson-Piper and Peter Koppes - The Church
    Charlie Burchill - Simple Minds
    Will Seargent - Echo & The Bunnymen/Electrafixion
    Steven Fellows - The Comsat Angels
    Rocco Barker - Flesh For Lulu
    Billy Duffy - Death Cult/The Cult
    Bruce Watson - Big Country
    Jerry Harrison - Talking Heads
    Roland Orzabal - Tears For Fears
    Tom Ashton - The March Violets
    I mean this list could literally keep going on and on...

  • @bobk9879
    @bobk9879 Před 4 lety +2

    Brilliant! Thank you. 👍😊

  • @schattenheim
    @schattenheim Před 4 lety +2

    Yes Sir nice joice... he was a great guy.... you als do a great Job !

  • @TheAdambee7
    @TheAdambee7 Před 4 lety

    old goth here. You nailed it

  • @markysinister145
    @markysinister145 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Great Stuff. McGeoch is up there w Ronno , Rhoads, I have 2 SG 1000’s. A ‘78 & a 2008 CS reissue. So I’m a bit of a fan lol. what a feckin’ Resume the man had. Mag-Suisxe-PIL.

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE  Před 3 měsíci

      A few years after this I got myself an SG1500. I INSTANTLY sold all of my Gibsons. It's not even close. Mine is a late 70's.

  • @whssy
    @whssy Před 4 lety +2

    All the way through without a mistake? I did. Once. And that was after months of practice. I'd given myself the ultimatum of learning it before I turned 50. I even ordered a tobacco sunburst SG1000 from Japan - and Spellbound had to be the first thing I played on it.

  • @davidpggarrett
    @davidpggarrett Před 4 lety +1

    No way!!! How did I not come across your vid before? I'm originally from Bromley, Kent (Siouxsie, Billy Idol, Bowie...). John McGeogh was amazing. I just ordered an MXR Flanger, partly due to him.

    • @davidpggarrett
      @davidpggarrett Před 4 lety

      MXR Flanger was out of stock... so opted on the new small A/DA "PBF" Flanger.... hopefully an amazing pedal!!

  • @ytperson5
    @ytperson5 Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you for this info, i love this band, I would had never heard of them if it wasn't for Mindless Self Indulgence song Bitches. I tried to play Spellbound on guitar its so hard

  • @lloyddarbon5034
    @lloyddarbon5034 Před 4 lety +1

    F****ng YES!!! That is amazing!

  • @lander.96
    @lander.96 Před 4 lety

    Awwww yeaaaaah! Stupendous, thanks!

  • @Cabrona_lol
    @Cabrona_lol Před 4 lety

    Aww I can picture Siouxsie singing along to this :)

  • @MateSosas
    @MateSosas Před 4 lety +1

    Gotta love spellbound!!!

  • @underpressureman
    @underpressureman Před 4 lety

    Killer job my dude!

  • @LawrieFamily
    @LawrieFamily Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you for doing this important video

  • @mukhumor
    @mukhumor Před 4 lety +1

    Love John McGeogh. Thanks.

  • @davidcomaxington
    @davidcomaxington Před rokem +1

    Hello fellow Welshman. love the channel. Love to see you take the chicken of the bone of New Model Army, bass player Stuart Morrow his tone is the best i have ever heard ever. All the best. Fagin.

  • @LeighDWYC
    @LeighDWYC Před 4 lety +1

    Loving your vids mate

  • @jeffblack5024
    @jeffblack5024 Před 4 lety +1

    I began playing in bands for the first time around that time and was quite obsessed with the McGeoch sound. I have a 1979 Yamaha SG1000 and it is built like a tank. I only use it at home nowadays, but everything I do with it exudes quality tone-wise. The coil taps mean you can switch it to single coil too for a more Fender sound.
    At the time, I also had an MXR Flanger and MXR Dyna Comp that I stupidly flogged when Line 6 Pods came out (I know, I know). I’ve tried modelled versions but they’re never the same.
    There was some BBC In Concert TV programme in about 1980 that featured this Banshees line-up - I must see if it’s on CZcams. The version of ‘Voodoo Dolly’ was mesmerising. This was Goth before Goth actually became a thing.

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE  Před 4 lety

      Awesome gear. I still use the old MXR dyna comp and rack delays etc.

  • @mindtpi
    @mindtpi Před 4 lety +1

    The basses I'd mainly associate with Steve Severin during the McGeoch-phase (their best period) is a MusicMan Stingray and a Wal. He started off on a jazz bass but moved to the Stingray and moved to back to the Jazz later

  • @blakecurtis7809
    @blakecurtis7809 Před 4 lety +1

    Warren at produce like a pro YT channel has a Yamaha similar to the SG 1000, or same guitar. Uses it in many of his videos and gives it a lot of praise. Big fan of Yamaha gear. The drums they make are great, and the drum hardware is one of my favorites.
    Even the $200 bass I owned was awesome. That brand never disappoints.

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE  Před 4 lety

      Yep I used to have the same guitar. I think it's a Peavey though.

  • @prook2001
    @prook2001 Před 4 lety +4

    I love that Eastwood are making the more oddball guitars rather than knocking out the usual S. T and LP type guitars. If I were in the market for a new guitar I’d definitely be going the way of Eastwood. Another great video. It’s great to see you’re getting some support from forward thinking companies like Eastwood onwards and upwards to great things I hope.
    It’s also nice to hear you mention the MXR flanger. I was lucky to pick one up from Monty’s guitars last year for £60. It looks a bit of a mess (but it is from the 70’s) but works perfectly and sounds amazing! Another great flanger is the Dod 670. Very much like the MXR but uses the SAD512 rather than the SAD1024..
    Now you’ve got the SG1000 how about a Stuart Adamson Skids/Big Country video?

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE  Před 4 lety +1

      Man you got DEAL on that flanger. Agreed re Eastwood. It plays so great.

    • @Bansidhe
      @Bansidhe Před 4 lety +1

      Great flanger.
      I managed to source an old black label BF-2 a few years back. Got it for £37 as it wasn't specified on the ad that it was a black label. Rare to see them for under £100 on the rare occasions that they show up.
      Billy Duffy uses it all over the Love album from the Cult.

  • @keithbarry7522
    @keithbarry7522 Před 4 lety

    Massive McGeogh fan. Probably the most underated player along with guys like Keith Levine. Sid Vicious played drums for her at a gig very badly lol. Great great video thank you very much

  • @DaveBessell
    @DaveBessell Před rokem +1

    One of the things John used for his chorus sound was a yamaha E1005 (or similar model E1010?) delay. You can hear it in full effect on the track Voodoo Dolly from Ju Ju but I think its probably doing most of the chorusing on that album. I have one and its instant John McGeoch more or less whatever guitar you put through it.

  • @blueshorecreative3146

    Wwwwwwwhat an exciting and entrancing guitarist!

  • @The1stMrJohn
    @The1stMrJohn Před 4 lety

    A Gizmatron!
    I always wanted one if them, but I don't think they are made anymore and they would wear out and break. I got an E-bow for similar linear sounds, which aren't straight forward to get hold of in England 😀

  • @TheMisterMonkeyman
    @TheMisterMonkeyman Před 4 lety

    Cool video. John McGeogh was a monster player, That's proven by all the great bands he played with. Also I just wanted to mention that Sid Vicious played drums with the "Banshees" at that first gig at the 100 club "punk festival". Peace.

  • @machmen1000
    @machmen1000 Před 4 lety +5

    Eastwood guitars are a cool company.

  • @robbocop33r12
    @robbocop33r12 Před rokem +1

    Yamaha sg's are one of the most underrated guitars ever,one of the greatest clean sounds of any guitar,'before' adding anything!
    Oh yes and they'll do twangy Fender sounds and the Les Paul all in the one guitar! ;-)

  • @Johnnybananass-_
    @Johnnybananass-_ Před 4 lety +1

    you nailed it !

  • @fabricecallot8560
    @fabricecallot8560 Před 3 lety

    In love with his sg 2000..

  • @Jakegothicsnake
    @Jakegothicsnake Před 4 lety +2

    I searched "gothic rock guitar" and this video was listed.

  • @Ronno4691
    @Ronno4691 Před 4 lety +2

    McGeoch's rhythm guitar on Magazine's Definitive Gaze is spellbinding. Listen to his playing underneath the synthesizer melody lines - it sort of....drops off the beat? It's seriously impressive, anyway. He rose to the challenge and then some with that song, that's for sure. Howard Devoto once said working with John McGeoch could be a bit difficult sometimes! A hard drinking Scotsman like Thin Lizzy's Brian Robertson difficult? As if :-)

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE  Před 4 lety

      Yep. Hehe. He was a Scott for sure. I've been to Glasgow and by god they put it away.

  • @sauksieandthefrenchees

    Amazing !