I'm taking care of my pool in Europe and follow your videos. Once my Alkalinity Up runs out I'm only buying baking soda. 1 lb is 474 grams with is nothing and so much cheaper. Thankfully I haven't had high ph...it's usually low alkalinity and low pH so taking care of the alkalinity takes care of the pH. Thanks so much for making taking care of your pool easy to understand.
Forced to learn myself. Newbie to pool care. After 6 weeks of a weekly pool guy and 2 different pool repairmen, they thought i was crazy complaining my chlorine level was only 0.1ppm. FINALLY, doing video research, i learned about my problem. Chlorine Demand problem on just shy of 10,000 gallon pool. Where i learned by video it is not even safe to enter the pool at that level. By the way. Had a pool store test water once to twice weekly. Still only suggesting 3 oz of shock. Thanks for all your help! Sorry. My email not working.
Great video once again, always with videos that really teach! Already had bad experience raising the alcalinaty first , for me first drop the ph, then the alcalinaty, but I really believe that every country or state have different rules /water Keep on going 👌
Add your acid to a bucket, or even better, a watering can. Fill the bucket or can with water to dilute the acid. Then pour the diluted acid around the perimeter of the pool. Much better than pouring straight acid into the pool.
I’ve got a question about TA and CYA. Leslie’s testing adjust TA according to CYA. On my Taylor 2006 I can test my TA at 100 and CYA at 50. Leslie’s test TA at 58 and CYA at 65. They said with CYA high it lowers the TA numbers. That blew my mind and now I don’t know what numbers to use
First of all I don't trust Leslies period. I've never heard that TA affects CYA or visa versa. I'd also trust your kit over Leslies. They're notorious for selling you a ton of chems you don't need. So if your reading is TA 100 then you're fine! If you CYA is at 50 you're fine!
Hold on, if your pH is high you want to add Liquid muriatic acid to lower it. Watch these two videos. On Alkalinity: czcams.com/video/60J-OcocMPo/video.html On pH: czcams.com/video/l71Iii4uZgY/video.html
@@PoolSchooler I watched the video called, Raising the Alkalinity and lowering the PH. If I remember correctly, you said to raise the Alkalinity first, one pound of Baking Soda at a time, then add the muriatic acid. Is that not what I need to do?
When I get the ph where it should be 7.3 , the next day its back up to where it was (way above 8.0). I have had to put 7 ounces of acid in it four days in a row. It's a 5000 gal. 4 month old pebbletec finish.
he mentioned using bicarbonate of soda to adjust alk.....i would use different wording.... bicarbonate is used to adjust the alk and soda ash is used to raise the pH as soda ash is MUCH more basic. do NOT mix the 2 uses
Sodium Bicarbomate will increase the Ph as well as the Alkalinity. If you want to increase Alkalinity without effecting Ph much you should use Sodium Carbonate, not Bicarbonate.
Sorry, I would beg to differ with you I pulled this from the web and baking soda is sodium bicarbonate baking soda Both are great choices to raise pH and alkalinity, however, if you are aiming to make large pH and alkalinity adjustments at the same time, then soda ash is better. But, if you want to raise the alkalinity level without overly affecting the pH level, we recommend using baking soda.
Our pool has been boxed up and closed since 8/15/23. We won’t open because able to get a filter going for 4 more months. How can we get the chemicals balanced during this time? The pool is a 10’ x 20’ that is 4-5 ft in depth.
Unless you have filtration and a filter pump running, it’s a waste of time and money to try and get your chemicals balanced. You need the pump running to circulate the chemicals around the pool and you need the filter to filter out dirt you can’t just add chemicals and keep the pool clear.
New and barely seeing your video on this issue. So I did muriatic acid first before I came across your video. Can I still do alkalinity after? And how long after adding the muriatic acid can I apply the bicarbonate sodium? And for how long?
Actually there is no way to donate to my channel but I am producing a travel series that we’re doing crowdfunding on and we’re excepting donations to that. Go to www.tappingtheworld.com and there’s a place to donate either via PayPal or Venmo. Also watch the video it will help you understand the project. And I would love it if you would donate to that. I am the producer/Director/Choreographer of the series. Which we’re planning to release the first season summer of 2023
I actually did a video specifically on that. Here’s a link to it it’s very short, and it will answer your question czcams.com/video/zLQwA3d-e2Y/video.htmlfeature=shared
Do you dilute muriatic acid prior to putting in pool? Or pour straight in? I usually dilute but I didn’t hear you say anything about that step. Thanks!
@@PoolSchoolerI guess everyone has their own preference but here's why I don't like pouring undiluted along side the perimeter. The acid is strong stuff and doing it this way you will get drops at the side of your pool that can harm the pool. I first dilute it in a large bucket and then I pour it slowly in front of a return flow. This way the acid dissolves quickly before it is pumped back to your equipment. Alternatively you could use a dosage pump to automatically add small amounts of acid to your pool. Thanks for your videos!
@@Hannelore7 did you watch my video on startup chemicals and how to add them? If not, here’s a link: Pool Start Up What Chemicals to Use and How to Add Them czcams.com/video/1a4a2PGQc5E/video.html Tomorrow pH is liquid muriatic acid. No more than 2 quarts at a time with the filter pump running a couple hours. Retest and repeat as needed. And I would really recommend you watch my video and instead of chemicals cause it’s very helpful.
Maybe a filter issue. A common occurrence is when the algae is killed, but the filter isn't catching it, so it just keeps recirculating through the system. Sand filters are the most common filter to have this situation, as they have the coarsest filtration. I have seen people spend literally hundreds of dollars on chlorine and algaecides trying to kill algae which is already dead. Other types of filters can have the same issue if the internals are damaged.
I found this online: Also known as “dry acid”, sodium bisulfate is a fine powder commonly used to lower the pH in pools. Sodium bisulfate is typically preferred over muriatic acid due to its safer use and ease of storage
I suggest testing and adjusting your pool chemistry once a week. Unless you have a huge amount of people in the pool say over a weekend then you may want to add some chlorine once people are done.
Does it matter if my pool isn’t salt water? I also have an inline chlorinator but last summer my CYA skyrocketed so should I stick to liquid chlorine this summer?
Without a doubt liquid chlorine is the purest and doesn't have CYA in it. However it's also the least convenient. Meaning you usually have to test and add liquid chlorine daily (maybe every other day if it's not too hot). So that's the trade off.
Can you please email me a pic of what you’re describing. Since i don’t use the liquid kits ill have to see the results. But in short the test kit you are using should have a color scale tied to a correlating ppm level which should tell you if its high or low etc. kennypoolschool@gmail.com
Hi I have a pebble tec pool, that every 15 days the reading of the ph is very low. Every 15 days. I add soda ash to bring it up, next week the ph is ok...eand the following week boomb.!!! The ph is low again..... What i can do
There are lots of factors that can contribute to that climate environment vegetation how much dust and pollen‘s are in your ear. It’s very hard to predict. But if you’re able to stabilize it for 15 days that’s not bad. It could also be your water source. Because water evaporates so you’re adding freshwater to your pool and that water source might have a very low pH.
@@PoolSchooler How do you think about the Clorox chlorine tabs? Had a huge problem with people adding cheap tabs and their Cyanuric acid levels skyrocketing.
@@cjadventures8840 The Clorox tablets are pretty good. FYI the tablets I get from my wholesaler are really good and I've not had a problem with the small amount of CYA they contain.
@@olgakiely6898 glad you were able to find it. On my membership website. Poolschooler.com members are able to access a products page with links to a majority of the products that I use to make it easier for them. It’s $99 for a one year membership plus it comes with more immediately access to me for advice and questions, and special checklists/cheat sheets for daily, weekly, and seasonal pool maintenance for your specific type of pool filter, and system. Might be worth checking out.
I'm taking care of my pool in Europe and follow your videos. Once my Alkalinity Up runs out I'm only buying baking soda. 1 lb is 474 grams with is nothing and so much cheaper. Thankfully I haven't had high ph...it's usually low alkalinity and low pH so taking care of the alkalinity takes care of the pH. Thanks so much for making taking care of your pool easy to understand.
So glad to hear my videos have been helpful and money saving. Hope you'll share my channel with your friends.
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Forced to learn myself. Newbie to pool care. After 6 weeks of a weekly pool guy and 2 different pool repairmen, they thought i was crazy complaining my chlorine level was only 0.1ppm. FINALLY, doing video research, i learned about my problem. Chlorine Demand problem on just shy of 10,000 gallon pool. Where i learned by video it is not even safe to enter the pool at that level.
By the way. Had a pool store test water once to twice weekly. Still only suggesting 3 oz of shock.
Thanks for all your help!
Sorry. My email not working.
You make all these videos so clear and easy to understand! Thank you for doing these, it helps! Another thumbs up.
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Accuchek 7 test strips are wonderful to use. I use sulfuric acid. Not so harsh.
Thank you for your helpful videos. This is exactly the issue I have currently. Confident I can correct now.
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Great video once again, always with videos that really teach!
Already had bad experience raising the alcalinaty first , for me first drop the ph, then the alcalinaty, but I really believe that every country or state have different rules /water
Keep on going 👌
Great point and I agree thanks for commenting.
Great video, BTW. I subscribed.
Thank you.
Add your acid to a bucket, or even better, a watering can. Fill the bucket or can with water to dilute the acid. Then pour the diluted acid around the perimeter of the pool. Much better than pouring straight acid into the pool.
Is it put water in bucket first then add acid? I can't remember. I like the watering can with a spout idea.
@@amc2510 yes, first put the water in the bucket or the watering can. Then add the chemical.
Excellent video!
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Great information! Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for watching.
Glad I found your videos just subscribed
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Thank you i'm presennt!
I so hope this helps me thank you so much
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You are an absolute life saver. Is it better to do it during the day or night or it doesn't it matter?
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Sorry it really doesn’t matter when you add the chemicals. Make sure the pump motor is running to help mix the chems around.
Thank you very much
I’ve got a question about TA and CYA. Leslie’s testing adjust TA according to CYA. On my Taylor 2006 I can test my TA at 100 and CYA at 50. Leslie’s test TA at 58 and CYA at 65. They said with CYA high it lowers the TA numbers. That blew my mind and now I don’t know what numbers to use
First of all I don't trust Leslies period. I've never heard that TA affects CYA or visa versa. I'd also trust your kit over Leslies. They're notorious for selling you a ton of chems you don't need.
So if your reading is TA 100 then you're fine! If you CYA is at 50 you're fine!
@@PoolSchooler thank you sir!! Love your channel! Keep up the good work for us non pool pros!
@@stevedeviney2273 Non pool pros are the reason I started the channel. Glad to hear it's been helpful. Keep on watching and sharing. 👍
6/25/22. Alkalinity 40, PH 9.0. Will be picking up some Bicarbonate of Soda later today! Thank you! Already have the muriatic acid.
Hold on, if your pH is high you want to add Liquid muriatic acid to lower it. Watch these two videos.
On Alkalinity: czcams.com/video/60J-OcocMPo/video.html
On pH: czcams.com/video/l71Iii4uZgY/video.html
@@PoolSchooler I already watched!
@@PoolSchooler I watched the video called, Raising the Alkalinity and lowering the PH. If I remember correctly, you said to raise the Alkalinity first, one pound of Baking Soda at a time, then add the muriatic acid. Is that not what I need to do?
@@Keep-on-ok You are correct.
Thank you!
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Thank you. You are so helpful
When I get the ph where it should be 7.3 , the next day its back up to where it was (way above 8.0). I have had to put 7 ounces of acid in it four days in a row. It's a 5000 gal. 4 month old pebbletec finish.
It could bet that your water source has that pH. Test the water that is used to fill your pool and see. That just may be the problem
he mentioned using bicarbonate of soda to adjust alk.....i would use different wording.... bicarbonate is used to adjust the alk and soda ash is used to raise the pH as soda ash is MUCH more basic. do NOT mix the 2 uses
Sodium Bicarbomate will increase the Ph as well as the Alkalinity. If you want to increase Alkalinity without effecting Ph much you should use Sodium Carbonate, not Bicarbonate.
Sorry, I would beg to differ with you I pulled this from the web and baking soda is sodium bicarbonate
baking soda
Both are great choices to raise pH and alkalinity, however, if you are aiming to make large pH and alkalinity adjustments at the same time, then soda ash is better. But, if you want to raise the alkalinity level without overly affecting the pH level, we recommend using baking soda.
great video ! can you also use hydrochloric acid too ? to lower ph ?
To be honest with you, I’m not sure so I could not recommend doing so.
Our pool has been boxed up and closed since 8/15/23. We won’t open because able to get a filter going for 4 more months. How can we get the chemicals balanced during this time? The pool is a 10’ x 20’ that is 4-5 ft in depth.
Unless you have filtration and a filter pump running, it’s a waste of time and money to try and get your chemicals balanced. You need the pump running to circulate the chemicals around the pool and you need the filter to filter out dirt you can’t just add chemicals and keep the pool clear.
I don't understand your issue about "able to get the filter going for 4 more months"...please reword
New and barely seeing your video on this issue. So I did muriatic acid first before I came across your video. Can I still do alkalinity after? And how long after adding the muriatic acid can I apply the bicarbonate sodium? And for how long?
Yes you can. I’d wait a couple of hours before adding the Bicarb
Do you have a PayPal account? I didn’t see a link in your description. You have been a great help!
Actually there is no way to donate to my channel but I am producing a travel series that we’re doing crowdfunding on and we’re excepting donations to that. Go to www.tappingtheworld.com and there’s a place to donate either via PayPal or Venmo. Also watch the video it will help you understand the project. And I would love it if you would donate to that. I am the producer/Director/Choreographer of the series. Which we’re planning to release the first season summer of 2023
@@PoolSchooler Will do!
Hi, how bout if Alkalinity is low, but ph is good.? Thanks for the help.
I actually did a video specifically on that. Here’s a link to it it’s very short, and it will answer your question czcams.com/video/zLQwA3d-e2Y/video.htmlfeature=shared
Do you dilute muriatic acid prior to putting in pool? Or pour straight in? I usually dilute but I didn’t hear you say anything about that step. Thanks!
I’ve never diluted it I pour it gradually around the perimeter of the pool with the pump motor running.
@@PoolSchoolerI guess everyone has their own preference but here's why I don't like pouring undiluted along side the perimeter. The acid is strong stuff and doing it this way you will get drops at the side of your pool that can harm the pool. I first dilute it in a large bucket and then I pour it slowly in front of a return flow. This way the acid dissolves quickly before it is pumped back to your equipment. Alternatively you could use a dosage pump to automatically add small amounts of acid to your pool. Thanks for your videos!
Just refilled pool...and ordered test strips..all ok except PH is 8.4...Alk is ok...now what do I do.
@@Hannelore7 did you watch my video on startup chemicals and how to add them? If not, here’s a link: Pool Start Up What Chemicals to Use and How to Add Them
czcams.com/video/1a4a2PGQc5E/video.html
Tomorrow pH is liquid muriatic acid. No more than 2 quarts at a time with the filter pump running a couple hours. Retest and repeat as needed. And I would really recommend you watch my video and instead of chemicals cause it’s very helpful.
@@PoolSchooler Yes I did after i posted...did what you said..pool is perfect this am. Your the best !!!!
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mi above the ground pool is green and after done every thing possible still is green
Maybe a filter issue. A common occurrence is when the algae is killed, but the filter isn't catching it, so it just keeps recirculating through the system. Sand filters are the most common filter to have this situation, as they have the coarsest filtration. I have seen people spend literally hundreds of dollars on chlorine and algaecides trying to kill algae which is already dead.
Other types of filters can have the same issue if the internals are damaged.
Thanks is there a substitute for muriatic acid to lower ph levels
Not that I'm aware of, however a search may turn something up.
I found this online:
Also known as “dry acid”, sodium bisulfate is a fine powder commonly used to lower the pH in pools. Sodium bisulfate is typically preferred over muriatic acid due to its safer use and ease of storage
hydrochloric acid too aparantly
So want to get your levels an order and you have a salt pool how long until you should have to do this process again this process again?
I suggest testing and adjusting your pool chemistry once a week. Unless you have a huge amount of people in the pool say over a weekend then you may want to add some chlorine once people are done.
Does it matter if my pool isn’t salt water? I also have an inline chlorinator but last summer my CYA skyrocketed so should I stick to liquid chlorine this summer?
Without a doubt liquid chlorine is the purest and doesn't have CYA in it. However it's also the least convenient. Meaning you usually have to test and add liquid chlorine daily (maybe every other day if it's not too hot). So that's the trade off.
When incorporating R-0009 the water in my test tube turned blue. TA too high?
Can you please email me a pic of what you’re describing. Since i don’t use the liquid kits ill have to see the results. But in short the test kit you are using should have a color scale tied to a correlating ppm level which should tell you if its high or low etc. kennypoolschool@gmail.com
Do you recommend Arm and Hammer Clear Balance tablets?
I have never used them so I really can't recommend or not. Sorry.
Hi
I have a pebble tec pool, that every 15 days the reading of the ph is very low. Every 15 days.
I add soda ash to bring it up, next week the ph is ok...eand the following week boomb.!!! The ph is low again.....
What i can do
There are lots of factors that can contribute to that climate environment vegetation how much dust and pollen‘s are in your ear. It’s very hard to predict. But if you’re able to stabilize it for 15 days that’s not bad. It could also be your water source. Because water evaporates so you’re adding freshwater to your pool and that water source might have a very low pH.
Howzit Kenny
Is hydrochloric acid and muriatic acid does the same thing.
No!!!
No they are not. Don't use Hydrochloric acid in your pool.
Muriatic acid is 31% hydrochloric acid. Stick with muriatic.
Question: wouldn’t Muriatic Acid then lower alkalinity?
Typically liquid muriatic acid has a greater effect on pH. Dry pool acid tends to affect the alkalinity more and the pH less.
Is it possible that your alkalinity can lock up? Mine will not go up
You can add so much bicarb that it can over do it and possibly lock up the alkalinity.
How is your Cyanuric Acid Level?
@@PoolSchooler How do you think about the Clorox chlorine tabs? Had a huge problem with people adding cheap tabs and their Cyanuric acid levels skyrocketing.
@@cjadventures8840 The Clorox tablets are pretty good. FYI the tablets I get from my wholesaler are really good and I've not had a problem with the small amount of CYA they contain.
I’m going to stop using chlorine tabs unless I’m going on vacation. I’m switching to liquid chlorine.
Not sodium bicarbonate? hard to find just bicarbonate of soda. Read the labels on the arm and hammer baking soda.
If you do a google search for bicarbonate of soda for pools you'll find what you're looking for.👍
@@PoolSchooler found what i needed thanks. you have to look that's for sure
@@olgakiely6898 glad you were able to find it. On my membership website. Poolschooler.com members are able to access a products page with links to a majority of the products that I use to make it easier for them. It’s $99 for a one year membership plus it comes with more immediately access to me for advice and questions, and special checklists/cheat sheets for daily, weekly, and seasonal pool maintenance for your specific type of pool filter, and system. Might be worth checking out.
Sodium bicarbonate & bicarbonate of soda are the same thing
Definitely a Jim Carey ism here
You have to have your alkaline up to where ?..before you add muriatic acid to bring down the pH ..? You are not making sense,....
The ideal range for alkalinity is 80-120ppm.