Hey Ross S . Could You help me With one will be better to Play band Like a Sloughter , Skid Row , G"n"R , Bon Jovi , Ratt ,Def Leppard but I wish Play yet Megadeth , Annihilator , Metallica ..
The reason why these new Ex Harley Benton guitars are so unbalanced when playing standing up, it's the strap button placement. The strap button should have been placed on the back of the neck joint.
You’re right, overall the guitar is pretty well balanced. Now to be fair, playing standing with these guitars is no problem since you forearm lies on the body. It also depends upon the strap you use :)
Just got the Ex-76 a couple days ago, and so far I love it. Haven't really played guitar in almost 20 years, so I was delighted to come across HB stuff as even Epiphone has pretty much priced themselves out of my range at least for jumping back in. No complaints about the guitar itself, but I will probably slap in some EMGs or something in the near future since these Roswells aren't really crunching up to my taste. Aside from that, it's a fantastic guitar and I'll probably grab an Amarok 6 shortly if they can keep them in stock. And maybe even the Ex with the EMGs stock.
These EX 76 and EX 84 are definitely amazing for the price. The only thing that I don't like that much is the shape of the neck, thicker than what I'm used to. But if you like this neck, those axes are a great deal. The amarok is a bit different and the neck is a bit thinner eventhough I think they should make it 1mm thinner. I'm waiting for the Amarok EX to come back in stock and I'll grab one to make a video on the chan.
@@ToroKchannel I haven't played enough guitar, and enough guitars to really have a specific neck preference. The electric I used to have and my bass are both Epiphones with pretty friggin thick necks though, so this feels fine. I'm excited to be getting back into music though, and your channel has been a great help. The way you present things is very easy to understand and makes sense to someone who's not really experienced with the technical side of the instruments. Greatly appreciated 🤘🔥🤘
Great comparaison vidoe. I have the Classic one, the pickups are amazing for my 60s/70s rock tones so it really depends on what you want to do with the guitar. The only real drawback on this one is the bit of neck dive when standing up, it's not too much but it's here. I tried sticking the strap on the back on the neck joint and it fixed it so I might move the strap button here at one point.
Ive just come from ToroK's EX-84 video and i was about to comment the very same thing. I've never been a huge fan of active pickups in general but then again i dont really play anything that requires super high-gain but the pickups on the EX-76 classic sound so very very good and better than the roswell actives. I would be more than happy to gig and record with a stock Ex-76 as is.
Hi ToroK, I certainly love your reviews. I play alot of classic rock, AC/DC, Zeppelin, Beatles, Stones, Greenday, Black Sabbath, that kind of thing. I play some metal sometimes, Metallica, Black Veil Brides, but not alot. They maybe a silly question, but which one would you recommend, for Classic Rock. Thank you for posting this. Stay safe out there.
Hi Angel thanks for your appreciations :) For classic rock I would definitely recommend the EX-76 classic. In my mind the EX-84 is really made for thrash / death. Stay safe !
Weightwise it' interesting!!! In HP 42 (Henning Pauly)'s video who made the same comparison too it's just the other way round, the modern is the lighter one! If I remember right EX 84: 3,1kg and EX 76: 3,9kg ....
I have seen HP’s video just after I finished shooting mine and it made me laugh ! I was sure it was gonna happen. Same thing for the Amarok btw : pete Cottrell’s weigh 4kgs mine is 3.4 :)
I like the 76 , i don t see any extra value with active pups , i also like the fact that they are smaller than the original ex (you can find also smaller models from other big brands than gibson. My only problem : do they have this big frets ? I am used to thin / low frets where you can touch the neck with your finger without bending the string and most modern guitars don t work that way.
@@MathiasBronnes I don't have Spotify but Distrokid put your tracks on CZcams :) Sound pretty good, make me think of some good old Judas Priest songs from the 80's. Your singer's got a good voice. Maybe a bit more bass would help you sounding better, but that's a matter of taste. Good job anyway !
Thanks ! Well all I can do is give you the direct links to both the black and the white EX-84 modern EMG. If one of them was unavailable for a long time it would help, but they will both be available in less than one week. So I guess you can take your favorite coin and toss it up :) The white one : www.thomann.de/fr/harley_benton_ex_84_modern_emg_wh.htm?partner_id=53268 The black one : www.thomann.de/fr/harley_benton_ex_84_modern_emg_bk.htm?partner_id=53268
Amazing comparison review man. When are you going to upgrade the ex 84 with Emgs? What set do you think it's better for this guitar? Emg 81/60 or Emg JH Papa Het set?
Thanks man ! I’m currently recording with theRoswell active and when ths job is dine, I will change for EMGs. Don’t know yet how it will sound with the Het Set of the 81/60 but they both will be on video :)
The EX-76 will not sound really good for metal, no matter what amd or pedal you will chose because the pickups don't have a good note definition. I don't some EMG 81/85 would sound like on some Bon Jovi tracks, but when you wanna play some Slash leads, better have a pretty fat tone on the neck pickup. I think the EMG 85 would do the job wth an OD like the Mooer Green Mile in "Hot" position. Now, I think the one that would really match is the Amarok EX that's currently out of stock. It comes with EMG Hot 70 that are a great mix between active and passive. Of course you could get the EX-84 EMG and change the pickups but it wil cost you more money.
Ex-84 modern with EMG pickups, with 0 doubt in mind. And yes, they are smaller than classic Explorer so you should be able to avoid damaging your furnitures with this guitar :)
So we're gonna talk about the SC series and the EX series. First thing to know : the neck shape on the EX series is much thicker than on the SC. EX = 23 to 25 mm, SC = 20.5 - 22.5. If you're ok with a thicker neck, the EX are very good guitars ! I would recommend the EX-84 modern with EMG pickups. And as far as the SC are concerned, well I think I've said it all in a previous answer :)
Is the EX84 Modern a better guitar than the Jackson JS32 Kelly ? Id like to buy an explorer to get into metal and i cant buy a really expensive guitar (i have a ~300€ budget)
I have tried the Jackson JS32 Kelly 2 years ago and, for me, the Benton is way way better. The kelly felt fragile, had sharp fret edges and a high action that I was unable to set up at a correct level. The Harley Benton is a truly good guitar and it’s worth more than its price.
I will compare this EX-84 modern with the Extreme 84 (this one : www.thomann.de/fr/harley_benton_extreme_84_progressive_series.htm). I would say that there's a 5-6 cms difference at the point of the long horn, not more.
There are 2 different 84 : the Ex-84 modern you have seen in this comparison and the EXTREME-84, a cheaper version made in China and that comes with HBZ pickups. But I have seen no guitar called Ex-84 progressive.
@@ToroKchannel so It's looks going to be the Thomann's best Seller by far, It' s reazonable in my opinion cause Gibson are expensive has hell, epis are usually bad, and the guitar that most of we would like ESP MX 250 It's banned
I’ve just tried and though I’m not at all a specialist in classical position, it feels a bit strange and not very stable. But maybe that’s because I never play in this position :)
Du coup le modèle blanc vintage équipé de EMG à 400€ c'est un peu la perfection rapport qualité / prix !? m.thomann.de/fr/harley_benton_ex_84_modern_emg_wh.htm?o=3&search=1593788894
Je pense clairement que oui. On a une pelle qui joue bien, qui a de la gueule, qui tient l'accordage, avec en plus des bons micros et le tout pour 400€. Impossible de trouver aussi bien pour ce prix-là. Ca va que j'ai plein d'EMGs en stock à ma maison, donc je vais moi-même faire la modif sur la mienne, mais sinon, y'a pas photo.
@@radojcicrick3686 il y en aura même plusieurs puisque je vais comparer les micros actifs Roswell avec les HBZ qu'on trouve sur d'autres Harley Benton, et avec les 81/60 ;) Merci à toi pour tes encouragements !
I think the quality is better on this EX-76 indeed. I have reviewed a jackson JS 22 (same quality as the JS 32, the difference lies in the shape of the neck cos' the 32 has an interesting compound radius) and you can really sense that everything is rerally cheap. The EX-76 and EX-84 feel more solid, with good quality hardware but the pickups on the Jackson are really great for metal. On the EX-76, the pickups are more versatile and have less output.
Close. EX-84 does it for me on rhythm(more chunk), Classic wins for leads(brighter). Killer playing and quality editing!! Thanks.
Thank you Ross :)
Hey Ross S . Could You help me With one will be better to Play band Like a Sloughter , Skid Row , G"n"R , Bon Jovi , Ratt ,Def Leppard but I wish Play yet Megadeth , Annihilator , Metallica ..
@Janusz Jarzynski, any nonbroken guitar with a humbucker in bridge
And the winner is ......................Harley Benton EX-76 Classic!
The reason why these new Ex Harley Benton guitars are so unbalanced when playing standing up, it's the strap button placement. The strap button should have been placed on the back of the neck joint.
You’re right, overall the guitar is pretty well balanced. Now to be fair, playing standing with these guitars is no problem since you forearm lies on the body. It also depends upon the strap you use :)
Just got the Ex-76 a couple days ago, and so far I love it. Haven't really played guitar in almost 20 years, so I was delighted to come across HB stuff as even Epiphone has pretty much priced themselves out of my range at least for jumping back in.
No complaints about the guitar itself, but I will probably slap in some EMGs or something in the near future since these Roswells aren't really crunching up to my taste. Aside from that, it's a fantastic guitar and I'll probably grab an Amarok 6 shortly if they can keep them in stock. And maybe even the Ex with the EMGs stock.
These EX 76 and EX 84 are definitely amazing for the price. The only thing that I don't like that much is the shape of the neck, thicker than what I'm used to. But if you like this neck, those axes are a great deal. The amarok is a bit different and the neck is a bit thinner eventhough I think they should make it 1mm thinner. I'm waiting for the Amarok EX to come back in stock and I'll grab one to make a video on the chan.
@@ToroKchannel I haven't played enough guitar, and enough guitars to really have a specific neck preference. The electric I used to have and my bass are both Epiphones with pretty friggin thick necks though, so this feels fine. I'm excited to be getting back into music though, and your channel has been a great help. The way you present things is very easy to understand and makes sense to someone who's not really experienced with the technical side of the instruments. Greatly appreciated 🤘🔥🤘
Great comparaison vidoe. I have the Classic one, the pickups are amazing for my 60s/70s rock tones so it really depends on what you want to do with the guitar.
The only real drawback on this one is the bit of neck dive when standing up, it's not too much but it's here. I tried sticking the strap on the back on the neck joint and it fixed it so I might move the strap button here at one point.
Ive just come from ToroK's EX-84 video and i was about to comment the very same thing.
I've never been a huge fan of active pickups in general but then again i dont really play anything that requires super high-gain but the pickups on the EX-76 classic sound so very very good and better than the roswell actives.
I would be more than happy to gig and record with a stock Ex-76 as is.
Really like the cleans on the 84.
If I had one I would wish I had the other! Only solution is to get them both, dang it.
Fortunately we’re not talking about $5000 Gibsons ! :D
or wait for the EMG version
Classic is killer!!! 😍
Hi ToroK, I certainly love your reviews. I play alot of classic rock, AC/DC, Zeppelin, Beatles, Stones, Greenday, Black Sabbath, that kind of thing. I play some metal sometimes, Metallica, Black Veil Brides, but not alot. They maybe a silly question, but which one would you recommend, for Classic Rock. Thank you for posting this. Stay safe out there.
Hi Angel thanks for your appreciations :) For classic rock I would definitely recommend the EX-76 classic. In my mind the EX-84 is really made for thrash / death. Stay safe !
Weightwise it' interesting!!! In HP 42 (Henning Pauly)'s video who made the same comparison too it's just the other way round, the modern is the lighter one! If I remember right EX 84: 3,1kg and EX 76: 3,9kg ....
I have seen HP’s video just after I finished shooting mine and it made me laugh ! I was sure it was gonna happen. Same thing for the Amarok btw : pete Cottrell’s weigh 4kgs mine is 3.4 :)
EX-76 Classic
I like the 76 , i don t see any extra value with active pups , i also like the fact that they are smaller than the original ex (you can find also smaller models from other big brands than gibson. My only problem : do they have this big frets ? I am used to thin / low frets where you can touch the neck with your finger without bending the string and most modern guitars don t work that way.
Very curious to the version that is rumored to come with EMG pickups. Hope it will look amazing like the amaroks.
It has been announced by HP 42. I wonder when it will come but I don’t think it will look different from the current EX-84 modern.
Cant wait to use this explorer on my bands next album, wanna hear our current album and lemme know what u think torok?
Well, yes, I'll be happy to listen to what you play with your band !
@@ToroKchannel awesome, we are elektrik steel on spotify
@@MathiasBronnes I don't have Spotify but Distrokid put your tracks on CZcams :) Sound pretty good, make me think of some good old Judas Priest songs from the 80's. Your singer's got a good voice. Maybe a bit more bass would help you sounding better, but that's a matter of taste. Good job anyway !
Great review! I'm thinking about getting the EMG version but I don't know if I should get the black one or the white.
Thanks ! Well all I can do is give you the direct links to both the black and the white EX-84 modern EMG. If one of them was unavailable for a long time it would help, but they will both be available in less than one week. So I guess you can take your favorite coin and toss it up :)
The white one : www.thomann.de/fr/harley_benton_ex_84_modern_emg_wh.htm?partner_id=53268
The black one : www.thomann.de/fr/harley_benton_ex_84_modern_emg_bk.htm?partner_id=53268
Amazing comparison review man. When are you going to upgrade the ex 84 with Emgs? What set do you think it's better for this guitar? Emg 81/60 or Emg JH Papa Het set?
Thanks man ! I’m currently recording with theRoswell active and when ths job is dine, I will change for EMGs. Don’t know yet how it will sound with the Het Set of the 81/60 but they both will be on video :)
@@ToroKchannel Thanks for answering so fast.
And in 2023, the champion is...
EX 76 Classic!!!
Why do both reviewed models have flush tails while the tails on the online models (linked in the show) have a pronounced divot for the guitar strap ?
Cos' this video was made when the first models were released. Since then, the shape has changed to avoid lawsuit from Gibson.
please You ! Give me advice With one will be better off I wish Play : Bon Jovi ,G"n"R , Skid Row , Slaughter but Megadeth and Metallica too 🔥💪🤟
The EX-76 will not sound really good for metal, no matter what amd or pedal you will chose because the pickups don't have a good note definition. I don't some EMG 81/85 would sound like on some Bon Jovi tracks, but when you wanna play some Slash leads, better have a pretty fat tone on the neck pickup. I think the EMG 85 would do the job wth an OD like the Mooer Green Mile in "Hot" position. Now, I think the one that would really match is the Amarok EX that's currently out of stock. It comes with EMG Hot 70 that are a great mix between active and passive. Of course you could get the EX-84 EMG and change the pickups but it wil cost you more money.
@@ToroKchannel Thank You ! Have Great 🤟👍 a Day!!
Which of the Harley Benton ex-84 guitars for metal do you recommend? If they are smaller than the explorer?
Ex-84 modern with EMG pickups, with 0 doubt in mind. And yes, they are smaller than classic Explorer so you should be able to avoid damaging your furnitures with this guitar :)
@@ToroKchannel 😀😃😄😁
hello !!! of all the catalogue. of Harley benton guitars with a 24.7 scale, what are your recommendations for metal?
So we're gonna talk about the SC series and the EX series. First thing to know : the neck shape on the EX series is much thicker than on the SC. EX = 23 to 25 mm, SC = 20.5 - 22.5. If you're ok with a thicker neck, the EX are very good guitars ! I would recommend the EX-84 modern with EMG pickups. And as far as the SC are concerned, well I think I've said it all in a previous answer :)
@@ToroKchannel thank you!
Good video! Thanx!
Thank you ! :)
Does the gold hardware stays gold after 3 years ?
I wish I could answer but I have returned the guitar after making the review video.
Just ordered my ex76 yesterday and now I cannot wait for it to come how long I don’t know 🤔
your patience will be rewarded ! Now, how long ? Well it depends on where you live.
Is the EX84 Modern a better guitar than the Jackson JS32 Kelly ? Id like to buy an explorer to get into metal and i cant buy a really expensive guitar (i have a ~300€ budget)
I have tried the Jackson JS32 Kelly 2 years ago and, for me, the Benton is way way better. The kelly felt fragile, had sharp fret edges and a high action that I was unable to set up at a correct level. The Harley Benton is a truly good guitar and it’s worth more than its price.
ToroK merci beaucoup !!! Et superbe review, j’adore ;)
How much smaller would you say it is to a normal explorer? if you have played one?
I will compare this EX-84 modern with the Extreme 84 (this one : www.thomann.de/fr/harley_benton_extreme_84_progressive_series.htm). I would say that there's a 5-6 cms difference at the point of the long horn, not more.
@@ToroKchannel Oh, that gives it another perspective since the extreme has a really long horn so the sice isnt that bad! Thanks for answering.
How smooth are the necks?
very smooth, not a satin finish of course but you feel the painting is good, it glides very easily.
Bien ouèj les sous titres ! ;)
Cimer ;) - Eh, sérieux, faut pas parler en verlan, ça fait vieux jeunes lol
@@ToroKchannel looooooooooooooool
Euh.... pardon... je ris !!!!!
Superbe chaine, abonnage immédiat ! :)
Merci :D Et bienvenue à bord !
@@ToroKchannel De nada frérot CZcams !
It the ex84 modern the same as the ex 84 progressive?
There are 2 different 84 : the Ex-84 modern you have seen in this comparison and the EXTREME-84, a cheaper version made in China and that comes with HBZ pickups. But I have seen no guitar called Ex-84 progressive.
How did you get them? They are unavailable. 8)
I had pre-ordered them :) Now if you want one of these you should order right now. The second batch is gonna be another sell out.
@@ToroKchannel so It's looks going to be the Thomann's best Seller by far, It' s reazonable in my opinion cause Gibson are expensive has hell, epis are usually bad, and the guitar that most of we would like ESP MX 250 It's banned
👍
is it possible to play them in the classical seating position?
I’ve just tried and though I’m not at all a specialist in classical position, it feels a bit strange and not very stable. But maybe that’s because I never play in this position :)
@@ToroKchannel so does it fit well between the legs or is it kinda weird? Thanks of being so quick with the answer
It fits well but it slips away from my right leg.
@@ToroKchannel i use my strap sitting too so that wouldn't be a problem
Well yes it should work. And I’m very likely to hold it the bad way or put my right leg the wrong way :)
Du coup le modèle blanc vintage équipé de EMG à 400€ c'est un peu la perfection rapport qualité / prix !?
m.thomann.de/fr/harley_benton_ex_84_modern_emg_wh.htm?o=3&search=1593788894
Je pense clairement que oui. On a une pelle qui joue bien, qui a de la gueule, qui tient l'accordage, avec en plus des bons micros et le tout pour 400€. Impossible de trouver aussi bien pour ce prix-là. Ca va que j'ai plein d'EMGs en stock à ma maison, donc je vais moi-même faire la modif sur la mienne, mais sinon, y'a pas photo.
@@ToroKchannel et bien j'espère voir une autre super vidéo de la bête équipée en EMG sur ta chaîne prochainement et merci encore pour tes vidéos !
@@radojcicrick3686 il y en aura même plusieurs puisque je vais comparer les micros actifs Roswell avec les HBZ qu'on trouve sur d'autres Harley Benton, et avec les 81/60 ;) Merci à toi pour tes encouragements !
La Harley benton ex76 cómo será en comparación con una Jackson king v js32?, será mejor en calidad?
I think the quality is better on this EX-76 indeed. I have reviewed a jackson JS 22 (same quality as the JS 32, the difference lies in the shape of the neck cos' the 32 has an interesting compound radius) and you can really sense that everything is rerally cheap. The EX-76 and EX-84 feel more solid, with good quality hardware but the pickups on the Jackson are really great for metal. On the EX-76, the pickups are more versatile and have less output.