The Sad Reality of Throne & Liberty
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- čas přidán 28. 02. 2024
- It's been a few months since Throne & Liberty released in Korea... and things aren't looking good. Here's what you need to know. Get LUCKCATCHERS2 here: bit.ly/Force_LC Thank you LUCKCATCHERS2 for sponsoring today's video.
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The Throne may have fallen, but the Liberty will be carried on by the Federation of Super Earth
stop shilling for games that launched bad and didn't even work to PLAY for weeks, at least throne and liberty WORKED
@@xbon1 I only found out about the game this week. It only didn't work because the devs didn't anticipate this amount of positive reception. Their last game had a congruent player count of 10k, Helldivers 2 went over 400k. They had legitimate reasons and they quickly got to work fixing the problem. I just want to have fun, I'm not shilling
i've reported you to my local democracy officer. have a good day@@xbon1
@@xbon1lol wtf are you talking about. You're going to absolutely die alone on this hill...
@@ReiseLukasYou can't rationalize with irrational people. It's not worth your time bro.
instead of focusing on korea or the west they stayed in the middle and displeased both markets.
Yep, as it is often the case, if you try to make everyone happy, you end up making no one happy.
Guys, it's NCSoft, they never make anyone happy. All their games are crashing down right now.
And the success of GW2, they barely have a hand in that, they only publish. Surprise?
@@Eisi0wns >Guys, it's NCSoft, they never make anyone happy.
False. Koreans are pretty ok with NCSoft and that's their primary target market and to the distain of Westerners. Now they tried something different by thinking for the western audience and it resulted on pissing off both audiences. CEO probably now thinks he should have sticked to his guts and not entertain westerner's opinions and now he probably will, more strongly.
no they didnt , in korea its an ongoing beta test , its a huge project and they are taking there time.
@@justcrap3703 I think the suits just tried to be as cheap and greedy as possible when making the game (as usual). As you heard in this video, the first beta of the game was auto-everything with the shittiest combat ever seen in an MMO. They weren't catering to westerners or koreans or literally anyone, and they only got rid of the auto-play and slightly improved the combat because they got such a terrible reaction to it and they realized nobody would play the game at launch if they didn't.
There's two types of pay-to-win games. Ones where the systems are broken, and ones where they aren't broken yet.
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So you mean single-player games and MMOs? I guess that's too harsh
@@mattgenaro
*Cough cough* Shadow of War
I still like that game though, somehow.
Ever notice these "Game Critic's" Always have ad's for the worst mobile games? Then go on to shiz on a game that even at it's worst is, still better then the game's they put there name behind? IE any mobile game also RAID! I get it, You need sponsors to keep ad rev up when your vid's get demonetized. But when your video's hardly ever get demonetized and you still push scam games with your name backing them.... I just don't get it. He can't say he dosnt get normal sponsor's (based on his views and viewer retention), So why promote this TRASH!
@@Mikesusendsadasdc In the history of my life a sponsored ad has never gotten me to buy or play anything. They pay more that is why. Not everything is a moral crusade.
_>> NC Soft_ **immediately turns and walks out the door as if someone just invoked Shadman**
I mean you make it seem like NC soft doesn't have a good game though? with guild wars 2 is amazing. The only biggest gripe I have with GW2 is when they brought it to steam you CAN NOT transfer your data. and I have like 50k hours on it. no way will I start over.
@@sumireravenclaw8034Why would that even matter for you, tho?
ABSOLUTELY THIS! City of Heroes? Wildstar?? Anyone???
@@sumireravenclaw8034 GW2 was developped by ArenaNet and not NCSoft who was only the editor. Although NCSoft owns ArenaNet, ArenaNet is completely independant and that is why GW2 is the only game that has an NCSoft tag on it but it's not P2W garbage. ArenaNet is an american company btw
GW2 is published by NC. I'd say it might not matter as much any more. Considering it's Amazon who will do our version, it will (hopefully) have way less p2w issues.
Bots are the bane of every mmo
Any game on PC will be bottable, cheatable, hackable. An MMO on consoles might be the future
@@quetz6335 yeah but nobody makes any hard systems in console games, because average IQ of console users doesn't allow to do that. So our maximum is four button MOO like TESO.
@@quetz6335 most games will be crossplay tbh
F2P MMORPG's have no chance on PC. Thats why its more logical for them to have a 40 Eur/USD price tag than f2p.
Exactly, so isnt worth for botters invest in that game@@brunos7995
Game was released in December 7 2023, let me remind you : Q4 2023 is October 1-December 31.
Throne and liberty should be included in Q1 2024 only. Also purchasing market items was locked for players outside KR.
spreading news should include this kinds of details.
Addressing botting issue, quick reminder that one kr account was about 0.2$-1$, their system using kr IDs failed significantly which does not mean that it will be the same for West release.
botting is deleted entirely. it's impossible to bot in TL now.
Force gaming is the CZcams channel I’ve been searching for my whole life. Ur the GOAT.
Greed is what cause the fall of those huge AAA mmos.
these game/devs legit deserve it for all this f2p, p2w microtransaction botting autoplay crap
@@bobbydigital42069they got rid of the autoplay??
Speaking of earning some money...let's hear from today's sponsor! Absolutely 10/10 transition, cracked me up 😆
So if it failed in KR this might actually be good for as seeing as its literally the opposite with maple/dfo/lost ark over there.
If it fails they won't release it elsewhere period , Asia market is massive.
Problem is, theres nothing really to do in the game. Open world pvp isnt really that, its bosses basically and whoever had the most people wins and thats it. Its not skill based its zerg based and its boring.
doubt it, they went on record saying they're relying on Amazons western release of this game. If it doesn't release in the west it will be bc amazon cancelled on them.@@DarkepyonX
This is premium copium
But that also means they won't have a reason to keep updating the game
Great vid
Shazbot! I was looking forward to this one. I will still check it out. But, i am a solo player, and will see if it at all is worth my time in the end. I'll know by the 200hr mark :P Thanks for sharing the news :)
TBH. It's not uncommon to leave out a product in an yearly earning report if it hasn't been a full year.
Mute point. As he then explained... The investors saw this as a red flag. Also this was also in reference to Q4. Financial fiscal years are often broken down into 4 quarters. But I get it... Cope.
@@DreadedLad88*Moot point.
Or the investors saw the overall decline in revenue as a red flag....@@DreadedLad88. But I get it... Cope.
@@Sadows12 Moo point* Mooo
These are quarterly reports not annual.
I think this seems to be a very good indication that if you want to make your game about competition, you need to make that competition be won by player skill.
cant wait to play this.
This seems like a win for western audiences. If the Korean side isn't performing well then they probably want to focus on the western launch and appealing to western gamers. Great.
It will fail even faster in the west.
No, we will be cutting our losses and shutting down the servers after a soft release in the west.
@@kayfrenly5460 who's "we"? Are you a developer on the team? Are you the CEO?
Not likely. None of the top played games in the west, as far as I know, use such a trash upgrade system like the asian developers love putting into their games. Those all end up failing and falling way down to the bottom of the trash pile.
You don't speak for NCSoft, the game isn't going anywhere. Don't spread misinformation.@@kayfrenly5460
Woah! Congrats on the 1 million subs, Force 🤩 - I've been mega swamped and fallen off being up to date with following your output recently, so missed whenever you hit the threshold! So well deserved. Keep up the amazing work and I look forward to when I can be freer again XD
Never heard of this game until watching this video, Then I heard "NCsoft". That's all I needed to hear. Having been there for City of Heroes and Aion and watching them destroy both properties. I wouldn't hold out hope. NCsoft went full P2W and gutted the fun right out of them.
Just saw someone in tiktok live playing it, looked really nice and smooth, but haven't watched this vid yet
Great Review/update. Thanks for the content. I am going to play it regardless -- I miss the guild-driven days of Lineage II and this an itch I have to scratch.
WOAH?! A Korean game where you can pay real money to excel in the game?! NO WAY?!
Except that you can't do that in this game.
Lets just cross fingers is not another amazon quick cash grab
I eagerly await the year when an MMORPG comes out that's so good we don't have to grasp at straws anymore.
botting was a reason why auto farm system was added it in first place, they learnt from lineage
Tbh. All the features and mechanics of this game sound great! The focus on guild is a nice change to all these single player mmos lol.
if you like PvP youll probably like this A LOT
The Sad Reality of Throne & Liberty will be happy reality in the future
I've been following this game's development for several years now. It's been very exciting to see these developments. That said, do I gather correctly that TL will be a high octane mega guild game? So far it strikes me that if you're not in large guild you will likely get steamrolled often. I truly hope I am wrong here because joining a large guild and dealing with the leadership politics never sits well with me. I would love to hear anyone's thoughts on this matter.
Thanks for the news bro, i always watched your game news since i discovered you from the bald one😊
"you need multiple duplicate of this gear". yup this guy didnt play the game at all.
YOu dont need the exact same item to upgrade the trait. you can use lower grade item, to upgrade your trait with 10% chance. and you can use the same grade weapon (not the same exact item) to add new trait
If the game has wider appeal globally and severely tones down the P2W, I wouldn't be surprised that its revenue numbers were lower than the competition in Korea. This is fine as long as it's enough to tide them over and keep the investments going through the global release.
AFAIK, the P2W is actually severely limited already compared to most MMOs (especially korean ones). The market is powered by premium currency, but there is only like 1 actual "buff" in the store that you can buy for money, and it's not a buff so much as a removal tool for a debuff. That is most likely getting removed in the global version, meaning the only thing people can buy with money are things other users have actually farmed in-game, which gives those users the premium currency directly rather than having it disappear into some void.
Basically WoW tokens, if they were the only currency instead of gold.
@@Daktyl198 as soon as a game has the tiniest bit of p2w it is 100% going to get worse over time. it means the dev/publisher dont have that non p2w philosophy and only tone it down to attract more players. once the game has a healthy player base or even worse, is dying out, those sweet dollar signs appear in their eyes and p2w gets increased. hoping for something else this time is extremely naive. no offense.
since its free to play i might even download it and try to get a few hours of fun out of it, but hoping for the next big mmo you can treat as a second life for many years would be dumb.
@@tNuOcCaFrUmS Almost every online game is P2W these days, at this point it's either deal in degrees of separation, or don't play online at all. That's a valid choice, but I prefer to play games and just not interact with the P2W personally.
Ok, but they r a business. Why do u expect to live in cardboardboxes for ur pleasure? Than go on complaining that there isnt enough updates? Nothing new is coming out? Bugs r taking forever to fix? How much of ur time have volunteered to work for free ? Mmorpg community can and will never satisfied most toxic community in the any game genre @tNuOcCaFrUmS
Long response, we expect them to keep most, if not all, of the monetization systems as they are. We hope for small modifications to make them more fair, but not much.
How bad is the P2W? Opinions may vary, but it's not as bad as many claim it to be.
• The subscription / battlepass let you progress faster, but well within the current expected margins of a F2P MMO with optional sub
• You can buy shit from the market with $, but for that someone has to sell it first, so whales will be gated by people actually obtaining and be willing to sell stuff.
• In the current KR game state, most BiS gear is obtained via dungeons, and it isn't tradable. And what is tradable, is so rare barely anyone will sell it, and for a lot of money.
• Some gear/skill enhancement materials are gated behind gameplay, even if you pay for everything else
• Traits are the main P2W pain point. They have a considerable effect in power, and are the main thing people will sell on the marketplace. However, they've been implementing changes to make it easier for F2P/Sub players to get them, and we expect these to be in global from the beginning
• At this point in KR, lots of F2P players are fully geared up, traits included, 3 months after they released a new tier of gear, and the trait improvements released last month I think
I still cant wait to play it when it releases in the west
Just noticed you hit over 1million subs! Congrats on the milestone!
If I ever make a game I'm going to ask to sample the opening second of this video for an NPC dialogue
If it was a late launch into the year, they might wait until next years earning report to mention it.
its just an unofficial beta , game was never meant for Koreans its for the west :)
If even a single person in a Guild Bots they should disband the entire Guild. That's a HUGE incentive not to let anyone bot if starting a guild.
Cant wait for the game 😎
Despite any sales numbers, I am excited to play this someday.
Same here. I just chill and wait until the official Western Release and give it a try.
played in KR and still log in on occassion. its solid in a lot of ways. hoping for a solid global release
Botting is made worse when a game is free to play. The best MMOs in the space have buy to play + subscriptions or some variation of that. Even though bots still exist in those games, they are significantly less prevalent than F2P games. MMO players have shown over the years that they’re willing to pay as long as the game puts the content out. FF14, WoW, OSRS (specifically member areas), GW2 (specifically in the expansion areas), ESO and BDO are massively successful and all have an underlying similarity: buying into the game or paying monthly creates a barrier of entry for botting accounts. Doesn’t negate them entirely but enough so that it does not destroy their game.
TBH still excited
I had no idea about this game and with rumors of a guild wars 3 just recently, this is literally the exact image i had mind. I hope they can make this work because I like the art and vibe of this, It's got that bdo style which I feel is closer to gw1 than what gw2 is.
As a lineage 2 player
Seeing the auto bots
HAHAHA and HAHAHA HAHA
War never changes
LOL YES!!!
NC Soft not releasing this at the same time killed this for global. Theres no more hype.
Korean devs always fumble this by not releasing the global version simultaneously. Its genuinely 1/2 the reason these fail bc they comes to the west 5-10years later when its completely outdated.
@@FabricateFrogeven if they only wait 6 months to release globally, the real issue is that from that point on the global market is X months behind the korean version. and nothing gets changed between patch releases. so the global market (being X months behind korea) already know all the content coming out; already know the min/max class combos; and, sadly, hackers/exploiters already know which cheats/exploits work in that current patch.
i have been waiting for this still
I didn't even know Throne and Liberty was a game until this video right now.
But ngl, the graphic is god damn good.
Runs like shit tho
Horrible optimization and it's nothing special that of releases from over 5+ years ago.
You will be very disappointed when you go to mass pvp/event/world boss,it runs like garbage and its expected when there are so many people on screen,unless you have some 4090 24gb or something crazy,expect to be let down.I have over 300hrs on KR so im not talking out of my ass just so you know.
@EckoUntitl I do have a 4090 but even then I can really feel the input lag when turning camera etc, feels really sluggish
If it is bad in korea we may have fun here in the west.
But they gotta tone down, A LOT, the p2w
I imagine some designer at NCSoft sitting in their office, smug and exasperated, saying "I told you so." lol Hopefully they can get the botting under control. While I understand the reasoning behind it, I usually dislike game systems that more or less validate cheating techniques (like built-in autoplay vs current cheating bots dilemma). Here's hoping they can get it under control, but cheaters never really go away, they just get a new tool.
To be honest, most mmo companies have complete control over botters. Just not in the way the players want. They let botters buy account. Let them play a while. Do a banwave. Cash in on botters buying more account. Wait a bit. Do a banwave. Etc. Etc. It's all about money. Most companies could give a shit about the influence botters have on their game.
@@Delythyx it's cute that you think that bots don't spend anything to speed up the process of making more money.
I have played this game in Korea and it’s amazing!
Same.
Force with the 1440p I love you bro!
I played the game in January and it was very fun I even considered to buy premium version on wester release, or pack or whatever its called. I hope on western release there will not be bots. They are dropping the prices on the market down very much.
Like any korean mmo that makes its way to the west.. it will be plaqued with bots
p2w
Just played a West Closed Beta and to be honest there is no better MMO on the Market now. Game is "Pay to Progress" not "P2W" because of Battle Pass Rewards. Game looks amazing and i cant wait for a Global Launch ! As ex Lineage 2 player i had much fun !
Great vid! On the side note tho, the comparison between Lucent and Gold(Lost Ark) is a bit off, since you do earn gold for most in-game activities in Lost Ark, I'd say it is hard to compare both systems since Lost Ark has Royal Crystals(only real money exchange currency) that then can be sold for gold that buys most stuff in-game.
The game is so grindy, lots of bots, and even more of a grind. After that grind, there's something else to look forward to though! More grinding! I put in 100 hours, it feels like I just spun my wheels and went nowhere.
so it's a shit asian knock off of New World, can see why amazon is involved.
Welll thats Korean MMOS! once you grind to the top, you PvP.....and noone in the USA wants to pvp because theyre all noobs lmfao. too bad ill be playing the hell out of this
MMO'S can't be p2w. They just can not. It's simple as that.
Yes TL is not p2w. Play the game instead of watching delusional CZcamsrs
Thanks for posting this. Explains alot and why they havent posted anything on there Twitter since Oct 2023
It had all the AFK and auto-play because that's what is sells in Korea, where they spend much less time sitting down with games and more time playing them on the move.
In the west it's entirely different.
Developers need to understand that they can't market a game to the east and west without changing to match the climate and expect to be successful.
That's the only true comment here. They knew that game will be burned after lunch (especially in Korea) because whales there don't like to play - they love autoattack. I'm pretty sure that NC will turn it down in the same moment when they get their invested money back.
I disagree about westerners not wanting auto farm. As a Lineage player, I like that I can go to work, come back, do stuff around the house, spend time with my kid or help the wife while I can put my char do 1 hour session(instance) or 3 hours session or just let him on the map somewhere in a pack of mobs. You can do the fun stuff when you play active, like PvP, Sieges, Olympiads(or pvp arena) and the borring grind stuff can let it auto farm. I think for most people with stuff to do and with a certain age, autofarm is the only way to play an MMO. And as said, not only in the East, but America, Europe, Russia etc I think most who complained about it either have too much free time or just want it removed so they can bot autofarm and have an advantage over others.
afk mechanic thing is for phone gaming general
@@indang3r610 if you have content that can be done by a bot, that cannot be called content at all and doesn't need to exist.
They moved away from the Korean play model, of course it isn’t doing so hot over there.
Saved by Amazon. Wont touch my hand on Amazon game ever after Lost Ark. i swear any game published by Amazon are just going downhill trash.
Yeah I don't think my stance of "No Korean online games" is going to change anytime soon.
Quote from Force gaming on this video at 00:44 seconds "everyones visibile. nobody is phasing" oh yeah ? check 00:52 seconds and replay that few times, invisible players casting spells
So lost ark 2 with the bot army, basically.
Eh, they're actually very different games. Lost Ark was all about PvE raids, with some pretty brutal progression systems. This is much more about PvP and guild vs guild.
I started BDO a couple of years ago thinking it would be a placeholder MMO while I waited for something better to come out, but uhh idk maybe it’s just the MMO now
How is BDO?
I think the action combat and graphics/effects are top tier, even among most games out there.
However, the progression curve becomes extremely steep relatively quickly. But there’s lots to do and it’s easy to go off on different tangents, and I actually enjoy that aspect.
That being said, I think the game is best enjoyed casually when you have a few hours you want to turn your brain off…. But that might just be me considering I have other things going on in my life I often would rather do.
@@JaeCi-sh6fx It's 1$ on steam right now so I might try, thanks!
@@JaeCi-sh6fxexactly on a casual level all ptw mmos are fine but sometimes we have that competitve side of fun thats when we start to pour money into the game and to the point its gona get addictive and we spend and spend and spend…..
@@chadlineage BDO mostly removed that by making open world pvp on regular servers far less of an issue, also most of the pvp content is gear equalized/capped. BDO overall is not a very competitive game, you don't need parties to progress thus you are not competing for party invitations, you can just do everything at your own pace.
Ah man I was looking forward to playing this when it came to a western release. I do hope it still comes to consoles
It is coming out in the west. No one has said otherwise. ffs.
Can anyone give me link to the lost ark in steam, because I could not find one. Force, the Lost Ark is Developed & Published by Smile Gate, not NC soft.
What about Blue Protocol? Still no mention of a global release date
The game was doomed the moment they mentioned mobile crossplaform for me.
No way a game that was being developed with mobile as a priority would succeed in a PC market thats way more strict in terms of the final product quality, no changes can fix this, just close the game and make a new one with PC as a priority from the start.
The comeback is coming! I love this game at its current state.
Im shocked, SHOCKED! Well, not that shocked
Ditch the pay to win and just focus on pay 4 look and pay 4 new classes, western market won, nc soft saved.
Sword of Legends had too many issues but p2w wasn't one. They had cosmetic monetization and people still complained because the outfits (the only thing that would keep the game afloat) were $20. I really think people want everything free.
@@mrfish229 some ppl for sure, but those would be silenced if you have great gameplay, your cosmetics can be overpriced and your playerbase will throw money at you, ie Path of Exile with armour costing even 60+ (fusion ones where you merge 2 'cheaper' ones).
Lost Ark was ruined by bots and this game will be no different. Hard pass.
I wont come even close to that kind of pay yo win
What headphones is he using?
Never play a Korean online game. How have people not learned this?
Listen gamers are tired of these bad live service games...tired of game after game phoning it in year after year
Looks like I’m getting Hell Divers 2
If they don’t stop bots: I won’t play.
If there is a hint of P2W: I won’t play.
I hope a lot of the gaming community feels the same with the goal being devs adjusting.
i love your videos so informative I've watched so many of them and seeing how throne and libertiy isn't here yet in us but yet we have Night crows coming in march 12 i think that is going be same concept but with crypto currency it's going be interesting with amazon release if throne and liberty vs night crows where are players going to spend money to make difference they looking for but my guess it's going be on night crows people wanna spend to make more money but i hope you cover night crows and this game together wanna see what happens as things unfold
I want to play this game!
wow who would have thought launching a game in 1 country would not do well
I would still play this, it’s nice to have a new mmorpg and grind a little. Most games have taking out the grind element to really make you’re character powerful.
just imagine T&L with business model of gw2 or nw. oh god it will be so good
Just a strategy to undervaluate the product before the sell, the game will rock for sure, they will make money without p2w for sure.
thanks for the news not sure im going to try it feel to much like bless :/
The only way to make this game good is let it die by itself by not playing it. Either the dev will do a big move for us, or they will hide forever and set us free
Gonna just be pay to win trash bin it
Why is this sad? Feels like a reason to create content just because...
It makes total sense for them to be counting on the Amazon Global Release.
It's freaking Global for a reason. L2 was massively popular in Korea, true, but let's not forget it also did very well in Western markets.
Def @KanonXO fan
If it's not making money in Korea it's gonna make less here with those P2W mechanics
That's probably why they are talking about relying on Amazon's global release to save the game. Amazon has shown a history of toning down pay to win and making games more approachable to the western audience. That's probably also why it's taking so long to come out. Amazon really has their work cut out for them, trying to get a game that isn't making money in Korea to make money in places that hate P2W
I'm surprised new MMOs are still being developed honestly. What made them fun and engaging was the novelty of online play and community. Given online multiplayer is a norm across most games, what does the traditional MMO bring to the table? ... sub par combat and narrative, as well as usually aggressive monetization.
I loved MMOs years ago, but I just don't see a new one being successful without a substantial degree of innovation.
This game was one of those "just ship what we have and get what we can out of it" situations. NCsoft is struggling and doesn't have the capital to invest in endless development.
They been working on this game since like 2012
why hasn't there been a global release yet?
Korean game companies usually release their games in Korea first, and only after a year, they release them worldwide. This can be annoying for players in other countries. People wonder why everyone can't get the game at the same time. This way, players from other countries end up playing the game later than Korean players. And it's not clear why they do this, but it often makes players from other countries unhappy. This delayed release might also affect how well the game does outside of South Korea.
Who could have seen it coming?!?!
Seen what? Best mmo ever released in 20 years. Go play pubg or some shit
@@abdelrahmanrad 💀
@@abdelrahmanrad best mmo in the 2000s maybe.
Is that really soo unexpected? 😅
I actually can't wait for the global release, hopefully goes off smoothly, like the changes they've made and I've been itching for a new mmo to get into
It is NCSoft which means the game will be filled with bots which is game breaking.
@@rooster1012 That's true, a lot of bots but I didn't have much problems at all in GW2, haven't played much of any others of theirs though
Hopefully they can do something about the bot issue, honestly wouldn't mind if T&L was buy to play
@@KrissKingdom You don't see bots in GW2 because NCSoft didn't develop the game. The games they did develop were pretty much ruined by bots and/or P2W
@@user-to1su2iy4d ohhh that makes sense and is unfortunate, the p2w stuff I've defo heard of but hopefully the game itself is good as it seems like it and not too egregious with the p2w
@@user-to1su2iy4d NCSoft has a history of P2W, but botting is an MMO issue in general. WoW has tens of thousands of bots daily. GW2 has bots as well, they're just less obvious since most of what you do in GW2 isn't farming in a single area (unless they're AFK farming, which is very easy to spot), and it's a very single-player experience game as a whole. Not much paying attention to other people in general. Every western MMO has bots, and every Korean MMO has even more bots because they skimp on the anticheat due to their requirement of ID to play games over there.
Bots aren't an NCSoft issue, they're an online game problem.
it will make a comeback.
I was on the fence about trying out this game when it releases in the US, but this video put a hard stop to that, 0% chance I play this game now.
All these issues you mentioned, along with the fact that it's a primarily PvP game, nah this game ain't for me, thanks for cutting through the bullshit and giving an honest opinion of the game.
The search for a replacement for New World continues.
facts
Dude ive moved on from mmos. Its just giving me headaches when i just farm aimlessly for nothing. Maybe bcoz im getting older at 37. Mostly play coopgames like squad or helldivers2... Maybe you should consider that? Last epoch came out me and my son are also enjoying it
tbh the only way to deal with bots will be giving everyone access to a bot like they had
They should add road stops to MMO's you get checked in some way... and if there is no response, some way to surely know someone is human... you get flagged/disabled or someshit and them some process plays out to potentially ban. (this is not an exact thought, more so a general baseline)
It’s not too hard to have a check for that with bots, would make it slightly more difficult to make a bot but it wouldn’t solve the problem, unfortunately
It is very much like lineage 2 with the gameplay feeling, but much improved.