College Graduates Are Unable To Think On Their Own, They Need Somebody To Hold Their Hand
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*"The problem isn't that Johnny can't read. The problem isn't even that Johnny can't think. The problem is that Johnny doesn't know what thinking is; he confuses it with feeling."*
- Thomas Sowell
That’s what they want.
People with a belief system not well grounded in reality. Not many pieces of info in the mind to put the world together for themselves.
They have to rely on “the experts”
It's because they've been punished for thinking by the mechanism for their entire life.
Historical revisionist and political elite Thomas sowell?
@@imquantum8009
Political elite? Was he the one who chose Kamala?
@@imquantum8009 Yes, elite merit, elite credentials, elite bona fides, elite success, elite impeccable talent, elite intellect, elite proven ability. Yes, that Thomas Sowell.
I got 3 sons. A mechanic. An electritian, and a concrete worker. Im so proud of all of them. They can change a tire, fix a computer or butcher an animal.
I feel so fortunate to be a GenXer, who grew up in a time before smart phones and internet. As a young man, I too learned how to do all those things as well. I pray we are not the last generation to know how to be fully functional people.
I’ve long said that college used to teach students how to think, but now they simply tell students what to think
No, they don’t want them to think at all. They want them to be outraged about whatever they tell them to be outraged about. They are weapons.
A friend’s daughter seriously fell off the rails after graduating from college. She had attended Fresno State because of their top women’s softball program. Between classes and playing on the school’s softball team, every moment of her days was scheduled for her. She graduated, and had no ability to manage her own schedule.
It sounds like she is low in conscientiousness, too. I had no problem with a regimented university life and going into the world of work after graduating.
I am willing to give SOME of these college students some GRACE because they are young and inexperienced.
What worries me MOST are the adults who have COMPLETELY lost the ability to think;
But have become increasingly confident in their uninformed and irrational conclusions.
I have come across MANY who do NOT think at all, but will place heavy judgements upon others for simply asking questions.
they want to start at the top and refuse to start at the bottom
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I’ve seen many like what you describe.
Maybe you can find some with critical thinking skills but usually they seem to not have it. Like not all parts of their mind fully developed.
The left have also shown to be primarily a collection of that.
That’s what they want.
People with a belief system not well grounded in reality. Not many pieces of info in the mind to put the world together for themselves.
They have to rely on “the experts”
@@WokeDEMOCRATShaveASPD what experts?most of them are being told what to say
@@newmobile1455 exactly.
Look at the health industry during Co…….. how that tribalism worked its way in and tore it apart.
The “experts” however good in their field they be are still dumb humans waiting to be taken advantage of.
*"Give me just one generation of youth, and I'll transform the whole world."*
~ Vladimir Lenin
Giving your kid up for any government is dumb you ain't drafted me/my family for some dumb-ass war
Funny you point finger at Lenin when it's gone from your public schools up to uny. Your school system was build for crating slave labor since back when the only thing that change is that you dont have the work places for not smart people to work and thus they go only way open from them a place open for every one who have money.
A former neighbor who was a retired university professor told me, "There are a lot of highly educated individuals in the universities, but very few have any wisdom."
I have met too many idiots, most from college with higher degrees than me.
Absolutely true and very wise words from that person. We lack wisdom.
As a university graduate I can confirm part of this. You have to be a good parrot/order follower to get a bachelor's degree. If you think for yourself or challenge anyone you're the outcast. Teachers I know are told to teach by the curriculum and grade based on approved answers, not actual ones. It's a system that prioritizes conformity, not learning.
The thing is you’re mostly learning from the people who never made their dreams come true.
Want to be successful and make your dreams come true? Ask the people that do it and did it.
Super basic concept.
I'm a non traditional college student. I'm at a community College to save on tuition. I'm in Student leadership and I've learned extensively how internal departments works. The poc kiss diversity kids get all their tuition covered through tuition waivers. No one even at Community College is really paying their own way. We went to dinner at a Sdnior Leadership members house and one of the students said "I'm going to Rob him." Because he's a communist and had nicer things than he did as a communist student.
Jesus wept
When all you're ever taught is WHAT to think, but never HOW to think...
Who taught the plumber or drywall guy how to think? High school teachers?
@@m.j.e.5245 Trade schools gave the plumber or drywall workers skills and practical knowledge.
@@stanleydavidlepretre4241Trade schools AREN'T Universities.
@@m.j.e.5245 When you have to SOLVE PHYSICAL PROBLEMS and not just regurgitate dogma, you HAVE to learn how to think on your own. But people who have no physical-world interaction can't grasp this simple truth.
Schools absolutely teach kids 'how to think' they just teach them the most-basic/remedial 'how' that there is. Kids need to be reminded that University isn't the end of knowledge, it's the beginning.
Those of us, who had absolutely no frame of reference, went through multiple 'how's in our lifetime, and settled on the how that works for most of the situations we find ourselves in.
Thinking for yourself in college is not allowed even 15 years ago. When you do, you get an F, not graduate, and dont even have the piece of paper you paid for
Universities sound like a complete waste of time in general
It is. Ive got a fucking STEM degree and cant find a job with it that pays more than 16$per hour part time no benefits.
it is for anything other than medical law eninering anything else can be done through apprenticeships
@@newmobile1455 Engineering can easily be learned through OJT and same for Law.
@@aj.j5833 just using them as an example for collage collage is not needed for office work most go to collage for office work
@@sanguineregis5354 "16$per"-- Hmmm... maybe you should have paid more attention to basic grammar before you went to college. Of course, we don't know the quality of your lower ed teachers. Having been a teacher in public schools for a while in a large midwestern city, I saw ijits teaching classes.
I tried to hire a local teen (17 boy) to help out around the house. Very basic. he didn't want to work. he just wanted cash for drugs. Another local teen would rather ride his dirt bike for hours up and down the road, illegally and disturb the whole neighborhood than get a job. The work ethic is horrid. They just expect to put in little effort and get paid 20 bucks an hour. I ended up hiring a 56 year old handiman, no college, who has skills to help out around the house and do some lawn work. The problem is they expect money but don't expect to actually work and yeah, you have to hold their hands for the most basic task that my generation knew as children doing chores.
It’s the same for all fields. Finance, engineering, etc. Kids coming out need a lot of hand holding, and are really unprepared to work. I can hire Vets with families, train them, and I don’t have to watch or worry about them.
Modern management. . . . Bureaucrats. . . . Hierarchy. . . . Rewarded for adherence to banal, stagnant, SOP's, and fire people for petty reasons; while ignoring flagrantly deadly safety issues. Policies backed by no backstories, reasons or intrinsic benefits. "Not my department!"
Did we work for the same companies?
@@Lonovavir If you know who David Niekerk is, then maybe. Ironically, he now consults with companies to make them keep their employees happy and productive.
you should see the circus that ensues at my job when I direct my college grads to come up with user stories. They simply cannot imagine what someone else might need or want. It would be hilarious if it were not so frightening.
@CB-vt3mx make them do the user work.
The story at the beginning, reminds me of a clip of Jordan Peterson responding to a young woman in a crowd with questions about how they can tackle large social issues. And his response was that you need to be able to manage yourself first and manage your own life before you can take on society level issues and problems. And the gal in the crowd would shake her head like “but that’s not possible.”
There’s a lot of similarities between the incompetence of today’s college, educated youth, and that video clip.
My main objection to young adult literature. Instead of lifting teens into becoming readers, adults are reading them.
So what I've read for all ages for most of my life what harm is that.
@@erueka6 I don't think it's a problem unless that's all you ever read. It's why "please read something besides Harry Potter" became a meme.
@@arcanask some of things I read would be considered teen or young adult but it's written by a wide range of ages and a few have been really thought provoking and high brain usage it's all in the person not the object.
@@erueka6Bragging about reading teen books is not a good look. If you have to make excuses for your behavior, it isn't good behavior.
@@erueka6😆 go away, midwit
It’s honestly so frustrating that the majority of people nowadays outsource almost their entire existence. Hungry? Order someone else to make and deliver your food. Sad? Hire someone to talk to and process your emotions for you. Need purpose? Ask someone else what you should. These NPCs don’t even live their own lives, know who they are, or what they like. They love the lives others tell them to and it pissed me off.
Them: "I was only following orders! I can't be held to account for following them!"
Me: "A tool doesn't get a say in how it is used, or if it is discarded."
The entire point of college is to learn how to think critically for yourself and form your own independent worldview, otherwise it's just advanced highschool with a sprinkling of activism and a total waste of time.
Not now. Now college is to train little lemmings that do what the boss says without questioning. They can't think through things on their own
I think it’s nothing but activism now especially in the pseudoscience areas. If we are to end this the thing that needs to happen is no student loans or grants for these worthless degrees. If you want to pursue a degree in women’s or ethnic studies then pay for it yourself. Guaranteed in less than a decade this problem will be solved.
Along with a hefty price tag.
I figured that out in one semester of college. Except you paid for it and they let you smoke in the quad. I assumed it was just like that because it was the first semester of a community college. To learn it's like that all the way through was not a reassuring feeling.
@@arcanask Community colleges are low quality, which is unfortunate because they give admission to everyone. An actual university is a better metric to go off of rather than "insert county here" Community College.
Been saying this for years. They go to school, and in modern society, that takes away all the life experience. Its the main cause of the massive IQ drop. Logic and verbal reasoning are gone
That’s what they want.
People with a belief system not well grounded in reality. Not many pieces of info in the mind to put the world together for themselves.
They have to rely on “the experts”
turd world immigration has a lot to do w/ it too.
Oh? Show us your power or reason and logic! What is the world population of humans?
@@GeorgeFriend79 If you don't understand the logic that's right there, it's a perfect example of the problem.
@@GeorgeFriend79 I will see if I can simplify it. You don't learn life in a book, classroom, being online, in your small group of friends, or even going places for short periods of time. You learn life by living. Which people used to do. Even higher education people had to spend time with real life humans. They don't anymore. It's class, study, go online. Wake up and repeat.
wait til you find out that you actually get punished at work if you dare try and think on your own
Once argued with a kid about the dependence so many collegiate youngsters have on their phones - said it was a sign of fragility and lack of adulthood. He was demanding I change my opinion. Nah.
Glass houses my good fellow, I dare not say that because they just say “is so and so a child too because all she does is play candy crush on her phone?”
Correct, based on all of our observations of younger adults. It's sad. They are like drug addicts.
I interviewed 2 kids out of High School and they kept insisting that their Father be at the Interview. I never let the parents in the Interview. 1 kid backed out and the other one interviewed, but was insulted by the wage I was offering. They thought they should be making $60K straight out of High School without a Post-Graduate degree.
Why not? How much value does the position bring in? Why would their age matter if they get it done?
Unfortunately a college degree means a whole lot of nothing these days.
Yes it does lol. I tryna be a teacher, you need a degree and license for that
College is nothing more than a manufacturing factory
And thats the sad part. Some fields I can understand but why would anyone need a degree to teach elementary school for instance?@@dominictafoya2205
thats unfortunetly not true, some jobs will not hire you unless you have a bachalors and others wont hire if you arent certified. And thats the bare mininum, many also require work experience so working at bottom wage jobs for couple years might also be needed.
@dominictafoya2205 you need to check boxes. The OP was stating that thr degrees mean nothing now in terms of education/intelligence
My old company ceased the hiring of College Grads for those with usable skills . The change paid dividends .
Its not just college graduates. Im seeing gross incompetence across the board seemingly due to a lack of focus or the willingness to engage.
Why interact with other people? You've got a tiny cellphone telling you all you need to know about life!
Doesn't help that we seem to be living in Bolshevick America. Morale is down.
IDIOCRACY. Enough said.
The problem today is everyone is told they are special and great, when most are not. You used to have to do something special or great, now it hurts feelings of the youth if you aren't praised constantly for doing nothing.
Who the fuck is told that? I don't hear anyone telling others that.
This isn't a college issue. It's just human nature to be mostly followers with a few leaders.
While this is entirely true, it's getting worse.
It would be fine if people realized that they can’t even think.
That’s what they want.
People with a belief system not well grounded in reality. Not many pieces of info in the mind to put the world together for themselves.
They have to rely on “the experts”
My God you people have never been to college it is a college issue. We used to teach based on Socratic method you ask questions students answer questions there is no wrong answer the student has to come to his own conclusion on the topic obviously with math and science this is different but you can even use it with science because the student might come up with a theory you've never thought of and then you can put it to test. Nowadays you say three trumps are bad seven bidens are God and we came from monkeys which now has been this proven and if you show the data that it's been disproven you will get an F
The ratio has shifted because we have made survival unnaturally easy for the follower type.
There is a reason jobs all seem to require job experience for anything that pays more than minimum wage. It's because having basic job skills is required to know how to do any kind of work. Most college grads do not know how to do basic work. They have gone all through highschool and college without ever doing more than school assignments. That's not work. If we needed someone to take a test, that might be enough, but this is work. We need people to take initiative and accomplish tasks without constantly asking what they are doing.
The bureaucracy is also the same way. It’s designed to be so detail oriented you have to ask how to do anything or read an encyclopedia of instructions to do simple tasks. And there’s no accomplishment in it, just repetition and punishment for violating ridiculous procedures.
As someone with a masters in brand and media strategy and several years of experience in social media and digital marketing, I think what likely happened there was that the degree people are afraid of making a fireable mistake and realize that effective comms strategy is delicate and involves a chain of approval in larger companies. This was a one-person agency. That’s not what universities train people to do. In a university they prepare you to work at Deloitte, not start your own business. I do absolutely think higher education ought to be more balanced, though, because not everyone has the personality to be fake all the time and endure the blind stupidity of corporate America. But that cog-in-a-machine mindset is all they’re teaching nowadays in a university setting.
People in Government and education institutions just don’t understand that money doesn’t manifest out of air. They just think if they spent more money they can make things better but have no sense of, more spending just can’t justify the spending.
They haven't even caught up with the old promises for that money.
I was reading recently that it is not uncommon for young adults to bring their mommies into an interview with them. Employers are reporting this new phenomenon as well as not being able to speak or dress appropriately for an interview. Have you all noticed the uptick of commercials catering to dog moms? I love my dogs and they’re part of our family but they are not children. Saw a commercial for Pet Fresh some dog food and it was overweight late twenties gals singing to their dogs about being dog moms.
They have the intelligence of a 4yo. I raised my dog like he was a part of the family and kept in mind human/animal psychology. They are like us in many ways. They can even learn words.
But some people are bound to take it too far and probably shouldn’t raise children in general.
I respect my dog’s nature like making sure he isn’t overweight/feed him beyond dog food.
The issue is students. My college had a mock job interview project for students as part of communications (a mandatory class). My university business program regularly has presentations where one must answer questions from the class. Pretty much any class has presentations anyway.
The problem is that students don't care. No matter how many times since junior high they are told not to put an entire script on slideshows, my university classes routinely have students who only read from the projection with their back to teachers. One student showed up to the mock interview in gym clothes, then ignored the few answers our professor gave to 'guarantee points' (namely, ask the interviewer ANY question at the end instead of just leaving). The professor almost broke character. I had a classmate once complain that plenty of better alternatives to presenting in front of the class exist in case students are shy. Oh, and I once had my group presentation interrupted by the professor practically beg for eye contact (my group refused to practice their mediocre, bloated scripts).
Don't call it a "mock interview" if you want people to take it seriously.
@@user-zu5do6ri6r It was done by our professor in front of the entire class, with our professor pretending to be an expert in whatever you "applied" for and making stuff up as needed. What else would you call this if not a "mock interview"?
In 1985 in join the US Navy. I was a sonar technician. That was part of the contract i signed. During the schooling, we were told if you fail out, you go to the fleet unrated, probably deck division as a ships janitor. That is motivation.
My niece was homeschooled all through school. College almost ruined her, but she’s figuring it out and doing well. Solving her own problems, managing her time, analyzing workplace problems and handling them well. College gets zero credit in any of this, other than the cool PowerPoint presentation she put together.
When you work any job without requiring a degree. Your problem solving skills sky rocket. My dad did a double take when I (at the time) for the first time in nineteen years didn’t need to be told what to do while working in the garage. I just made myself useful and I have done so since then.
I had a group of kids about 5 years behind me growing up whose parents literally solved all of their problems. Any time those kids would get mad at another kid they'd go running hole and their parents would tell them "you can't play with so and so anymore". Kids would then taunt the other kids with this. They would eventually make up and they'd have to go back to their parents who would then say "oh you can play with them again" this was a constant ridiculous cycle. This is the start of why so many adults have anxiety and cannot do anything for themselves anymore
I was an 8 th grade dropout. I retired early from a 6 figure income. My daughter's have college degrees and they struggle. And not just my kids , all their friends as well
That story is very similar to my friend. I've always tried figuring things out and bettering myself, he's always done what he's told. Now that he has the chance to choose what he wants, he's frozen.
He once adamantly yelled at me "How? How do better myself? Tell me how!?"
I tried asking what he wants in life, he genuinely couldn't answer me
That's incredibly depressing. Almost as depressing as the 'education' that was bought with your tax money, only for everyone else to have to drop everything and teach the next generation THEMSELVES anyway. Like, we don't have the time or money to reeducate every person that goes to public school or college so that they may actually have an understanding of how society works. THE WHOLE POINT was that it was THEIR JOB to do that. If they can't do that, we'd be better off keeping the money, so that even if we do have to educate the next generation ourselves, we at least will be able to take off to do so.
Glad I went to college in the 90s, and yes, I learned to think for myself.
I manage a carwash and recently hired a third year college student on as a shift runner.
It's been an interesting few weeks. I am contacted every two hours for what seem to me to be almost trivial reasons.
Mostly it's like time and resource management...
It's like he is afraid to make decisions.
Kid has to call me to ask how much help he needs.
I took him of the front end this afternoon and replaced him with a guy I hired off of a walk in and everything ran smooth.
My family owns an ice cream shop. My first season managing. All employees are 16-21 and I can’t believe the number of times I’ve had to handhold for “do the trash, stock the condiments, mop up, DO NOT MESS WITH YOUR PHONE IN FRONT OF A CUSTOMER.”
I have a rotation of about 18 kids, in an affluent area. My kids all start for-real chores at age 6. So I’m always shocked when employees push a broom to sweep (not a push broom) bc they don’t know how to do it. 🤦♀️
Sounds like an ideal democrat
It's not necessarily they can't think for themselves. It's more like there's no incentive.
Workers get paid hourly or salary. No point in grinding harder for the same salary.
Employees need an incentive structure. Like bonuses for exceptional performance.
The "bonus" for exceptional performance is opportunity. You do a good job, you meet people, eventually that leads somewhere. Otherwise known as "pride" in your work, and boy is it rare these days.
@Dave-cf4vd not really. I've worked at many companies where if you do a good job they don't want to promote you because they don't wanna lose a good worker.
I change jobs about every 3 years because of such companies, and it's made way more successful than I'd have been staying in those dead-end jobs.
I'm not about to stress myself out so the firm managing partner or the CEO can buy a bigger house.
@@Artak091 Then start your own company and treat people the way you think they should be treated. Be a solution instead of a problem.
@@AB-ez4rm Why don't you just start a search engine to fix google?
This brought to mind the conversation the two Bobs had with Peter in Office Space.
Just one tidbit Tim is missing is when a company says "social media experience" that usually means 9 out of 10 times they're looking for someone with a few thousand "followers" that's it... plus our schools aren't teaching students how to "solve" problems they teach em instead how to answer questions, two totally different things. And to top it off you have to answer the questions in ways that they approve of. Like that "show your work" 💩 I did it in my fckin head I don't know how to "show" that... lol
This shit all started way back in the rising of the 90's. Does anyone remember all of a sudden out of know where you were scoring the winning run of your pee wee baseball game. And so the teams line up and tell each other "good game" and when you go to grab your trophy you notice the losing team is being given trophy's. This blows your mind and you don't know what's happening. Participation trophy's they call it. But it's really just something for nothing. Now we're here
Im retired now. In my job, my performance was judged daily, weekly, monthly and yearly, relative to my coworkers, and this was a global company. I had no supervision and was expected to make my own schedule. producing results. As time went on, I began to see this phenomenon with newer hires, and assisted when I could, but emphasized that working independently was a requirement to be successful. Many didnt make it
I remember in school my teachers telling me to vote for Bill C. I was far left, I couldn't think for myself. My dad challenged me, I finally moved to Libertarian side. Now I can think for myself!
I was just informed yesterday that every youth working at a local business cannot read or write. Wtf. What has the current school systems done to the youth?
Who teaches that in college? None that seem credible anymore.
arrested development
Communist ideology
@@therealhydropxThe lockdowns certainly didn't help
I work on a college campus and we utilize students for labor. There is so much truth here.
When i scheduled time with my high school advisor and basically had my entire HIGH SCHOOL career planned out she was utterly baffled. Years later i was dating a guy going to community college and he got hella pissed that his advisor didn't tell him he needed to take a specific class a specific semester to graduate. He did not like the fact I told him it was his responsibility to know that.
My father used to say, “those that can do and those that can’t teach”.
This is me with a GED and a company earning 6 figures annually! I am a problem solver and always had to figure things out! 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
It always blows my mind when i meet somebody with a two degrees, that does not know how to drive.
I could learn, but it's pointless when I can't afford a car, despite having no debt. Not that I could trust modern cars anyway...
@@TarsonTalon trust me, learn, a car is not as much as you think, if you factor in what most cities charge for transit these day, and the opportunities its brings..
I'm Gen X and had my will broken by an old boss who routinely said "But we've always done it this way." and opposed any innovation. What does one do when thinking and problem solving independently are frowned on? That's how you get workers who mindlessly defer.
In a way the same thing happened when cell phones became common.
Instead of “learning” anything they “Google it” to get an answer and get none of the context.
When I tutored people in college, it was frighteningly common to have people tell me a textbook-perfect answer, only to crumble when I asked , "What does that mean to you?" I also had pupils lay out the proper procedure for answering questions, then fail to execute anything. I usually had to string together knowledge in a way that made it usable.
There is a scene from the movie Ghostbusters that sums up academia. Dan Aykroyd and Bill Murray are talking about what they will do now that they no longer have their university gigs. Bill Murray makes a flippant comment about how Einstein did his best work as a patent clerk. Aykroyd replies: "Do you know how much a patent clerk earns? Personally I liked the university. They gave us money and facilities, we didn't have to produce anything. You've never been out of college, you don't know what it's like out there. I've worked in the private sector, they expect results." No truer words were ever spoken.
The dog-human-as-permanent-adolescent analogy at around 15:00 is spot-on
This learned helplessness also starts in the public K-12 school system. Because of this, homeschooling with actively involved parents quite literally is the best chance kids have to learning some life skills.
Learned helplessness is a real plague
They got rid of teachers who didn't buy into the program.
I just graduated college and I’ve noticed my peers have no sense of how to solve a problem. I have worked full time while going to school and doing that this semester for a technical writing certification. However, I didn’t live on campus which I think is the biggest thing, I also run my own blog in my free time and get access to conventions because of it. My peers don’t do anything outside of college, they don’t do events that aren’t on campus, they don’t have friends outside of college, they don’t get info outside of the college. I made a concerted effort to keep up with news outside of the narrative my college said, and I’m glad i did with all of what’s going on.
Pretty much why I hated college, do this problem from the book and don't do anything else. Completely pointless when I had already taught myself well beyond the books back in high-school and people came to me over the teacher when they needed help. The couple of teachers who tried to teach from their 20-30 years of industry experience had their job threatened when someone complained that they weren't following the book. American educational system is a joke.
Tragic! Abolish the Teachers Union and the NEA!!
when you’re young you need to be a doer, when you’re old you need to be a thinker.
Absolutely True. No critical thinking, no initiative… it’s like below the bare minimum.
I went back to college after a 12 year break, and the level of difficulty was about equal to 6th grade in the early 90's. There were a couple of math classes that actually required some effort, but 90% of the classes literally required no real work. I didn't even have to write a 2 page paper in order to graduate with a BS. I put in more work in my senior year of high school than all of college.
Community College might be that easy if your professors are that good at explaining concepts. But where the hell did you go to university? A degree mill?
My public university in California (freaking California) is internationally recognized. Here, we routinely have 10+ page essays- some of which are due to necessity rather than arbitrary minimums. At best, the one page essays we had in communications required us to analyze and define complex issues, then devise solutions before recommending one and planning its execution all in concise terms in a short time limit, hence the low page count (they were dense and you had to cram a convincing, well thought out case in just a few brief sentences). Every class has us graded based on our peers; the bottom 20% fail regardless of their score. Professors routinely make exams harder to minimize how many students pass, let alone get A's. Oh, and every class has a massive project (often a group project) or two.
This problem seems to be Genetic. When I was a kid.. I recall hearing a story, about how George Washington wrote a book about "Common Sense", and it sold like Hotcakes. I thought to myself "Who would need a book, to tell them common sense?!". But as I aged, and experienced various people in my lifetime... I would soon realize why that book sold so well. There are people whom are literally incapable of Independent Thoughts... and it appears to have been getting worse, and worse, each passing year. This isnt really because of the school system... Though... its poor quality standards today, are Atrocious... and likely to cause harm to many whom otherwise would have progressed much further.
Children really need to be Diagnosed, from very early ages... to see if they have certain Mental Health issues, Personality Disorders, Behavioral Issues, Signs of Abuse, Special Allergies, etc. Early screening, for example... could easily detect dangerous Psychopaths... and thus separating them from the general population... to prevent Tragedy. Or at a minimum... fixing a Camera and or Tracker on them, and Tatting a special visible Mark on them... to watch over + track them... And to visibly Warn others.
I also heard of a Test that was performed by a very Large, and very Famous company. I cant recall exactly how it worked... but ultimately... its was designed to see of the person being Interviewed, was able to figure out something on their own. It was done in a very Clever way... maybe leaving the person alone for a certain amount of time... and maybe a unique task needed to be performed / situation unfolded. Many whom had special degrees... Failed to pass the test.. while many whom had no degrees at all... easily passed the test. It was quite a brilliant thing. When I heard about it... It was probably +15 years ago. However, its very possible, that its been going on since the 70s.. or possibly even further back.
The toxic Jabs, Mercury Fillings, IQ destroying Fluoride, and all sorts of Pesticides, GMOs, and Poisonous Chemical in the Food supply, and Lack of Good Proteins and Nutrients in School lunches (way too much Carb-Garbage)... have collectively been destroying our Childrens developments... and corrupting the DNA pool, as a result.
Autism used to be something like 1 in every 500,000. Now its something like 1 in every 20. ADHD, extreme Allergies, and all sort of other mental health, and physical health issues... have all escalated EXPONENTIALLY, in western world areas. The rise in Feminine Males, Masculine Females, and far more Gay / Bi / Trans citizens... is also HIGHLY SUSPECT (and likely points to Intentional genetic sabotage... Likely for the purpose of De-Population efforts).
Regarding Tim's example of social media management, I kinda think there should be some . . . structure or SOPs or policy guides. One obviously doesn't want their subordinates calling them for every single little issue, but you have policy documents to instruct your employees in how they're expected to operate, what to do in certain situations, when they should escalate, etc. Just handing off your entire business to a pair of people you recruited off CraigsList seems incredibly risky to me.
Exactly!
As Dr. Stantz said in Ghostbusters, "I don't want to go to the private sector. They expect results".
Anecdote here. My college had a cool critical thinking course for business probelm solving and case analysis. At one point, we had to figure out a direction for a company on the eve of economic collapse navigating a legal minefield during its hail Mary attempt to modernize. We could suggest anything as long as it addressed at least one important issue and made sense, but our professor was nice and told us to avoid suggesting the one thing that would set off the legal minefield (high risk, low reward type stuff. She told us multiple times to NOT suggest that. When the report was due (worth a huge chunk of our grade), she almost lost her grip on reality and asked the class "Did I ever tell you guys not to do that one thing?" For a second, she thought she was going insane. It turned out multiple students wrote reports recommending the one thing that she told us not to do, and failed.
Even in a critical thinking class, there are always some students who will outright ignore professors and do the wrong thing rather than think for a second. These are people who will handle crises one day.
On a side note, this professor also taught us that the only diversity that actually helps anyone is the diversity of ideas and diversity hires objectively hurt everyone involved.
I blame a lot of this on how these kids were raised. Chances are, their parents didn't care what they were learning in school, or if that was anything at all, so long as they got A's. Many of these parents also put their kids through multiple activities like sports or music lessons. So every moment of their day between school, activities, homework, meals/showers/other basic necessities was micromanaged for them. Then they were pushed into college, often into specific career paths chosen for them by their parents, regardless of their actual strengths or interests. Or they were told to go to college "no matter what" but because every moment of their days were decided for them, they've never developed any real interests so many of them just take a major that sounds cool to them or they were told was easy. So by the time they're no longer in school, and the job market goes to crap, now what? they don't have any real skills other than doing what they're told, and now no one's telling them what to do anymore. 😰😰
The US government has been doing that for years. Every over seas millitary base is required to have 35% of there civilian employees to be of the local population.
Im not military but ive heard the higher ups are like college students even the older cats. And the enlisted are the ones who figure out how to complete the tasks
Higher up: we need a bridge, how do we get a bridge. Tell the men to do it!
That's correct military officers are college grads and enlisted aren't required to have college. And most of your officers are more engaged in looking good as opposed to doing good. Its mostly up to enlisted to get sh it done. Officers just benefit off the enlisted doing all the work. Most officers cant even read a compass.
Yep! I just finished grad school. I noticed a distinct lack of intellectual engagement in their writing. Almost as if they cannot actually share a thought with planning and effort. As a result, I felt like I was bullying them with my ability to articulate my thoughts with proper logic and challenging debates. Degree mills man
Self taught myself screenwriting by buying Final Cut Pro X and buying a bunch of books on screenwriting my friends recommended to me. Only thing I went to college for was video production. Lol
Career military go through the same thing a lot of times upon retirement. They spent decades being told what, when, and where in a very structured environment. If they come out without any civilian skills, they have a ROUGH time of it.
There's not a civilian market for career bomb loaders, for example.
Education system teaches how to listen and do as you're told. They do not teach critical thinking or how to even think on your own.
Even art has become trash. Just look how they keep recreating the same movies. No creativity.
They remake the same movies since creativity doesn’t sell. For every original idea that did well, 100 crashed and burned. The smart thing is to keep redoing the same thing to milk as much profit from it as you can and not risk the unknown. When movies are a business that’s always going to be the case. You’ll need super rich people making vanity project movies with original ideas that may or may not get audience support as the default for Hollywood and the film industry for that to change.
What's the point in even opening a business if i cant discriminate against who i hire based on race.
I don't like basketball players, why do i need to employ them? Doesn't my tax money give them enough?
I have been saying this for the last few years. These businesses that where started by people who often time dropped out of school now requires a college degree to even get an entire level position and these days school is not for the smart it's for the obedient.
It’s actually going on from elementary on up-the colleges produce the education majors that become the teachers at all levels
I work in a management group and I'm the only one without a degree. I make decisions based upon experience and working my way up the ladder. I'm not afraid to make a wrong decision I just recover from it by adjusting and correcting the mistake. I'm the only one that will not spend days and many meetings to come to a decision and direction. I make decisions and provide direction in minutes where it takes colleagues days to even suggest a direction.
This is why homeschooling is on the rise.
1st year college students complaining that 16 per hr isn’t enough😢
When I was in Saudi (GWI) I learned the only people that have any rights are members of the royal family. The rest are poor, yes their are poor Saudis!
Gwi?
The weird thing is, College Students who do think for themselves are discriminated by their peers and the institution for thinking for themselves. The level of discrimination I faced just for thinking in College amazes me, and after 13 years with two degrees. I realized I learned more doing unpaid internships than in the classrooms!
Department of Education formed 1978 by Pres. Carter. Yuri Bezmenov told us why in 1984. Demoralization. For this step in the process, 15 - 20 years, the amount of time required to educate a generation. Helping along the way are media and teachers who have become sympathetic (consciously or unconsciously) to the theoretical causes of the subverting nation. By the end of the 90's to early aughts, participation trophies, no scores kept, 2+2=5 Common Core, and on and on to now. We must return education to the States and their local communities.
President Reagan wanted to get rid of the Department of Education but he got snookered by the two establishment RINO's he appointed to run the thing (Terell Bell and William Bennett) who lobbied him not to do it and kept finding reasons why it couldn't be done. He called his failure to shut off the funding to that unnecessary department one of his biggest regrets.
I still struggle with this kind of issue. Taking initiative and doing things without instructions in work requires active effort, it's not my natural state. Everything in school was always ultra specific and college was just a continuation of school. Public schools were based on the Prussian system to produce people ready for military service without any defiance.
The same reason why employers tend to value military veterans for hiring. Things are always going screwy when serving in the military, whether from equipment degradation or situational failures, but the military doesn’t tend to value order-reliant decision making and instead teaches/instills/builds self-reliant problem solving. Different services do this is different ways/at different times, but they all do it at some point.
The higher the veteran’s rank, the more likely they have extremely high problem solving and independent thinking skills. Not to mention the high value of being thrown into team environments with a literal smorgasbord of other individuals which teaches (or forces) great communication skills.
When I graduated from college over 10 years ago with a bachelor's in biology, I honestly had little idea of what to if I landed a job in my field of study simply because the colleges I attended all focused on memorizing random fact rather than hands on experiments or grant writing. In fact I noticed that every job I applied for afterwards required 2-3 years of experience or a masters degree and the lack of knowledge was why they had these requirements.
Honestly, past 6th grade, you really dont use much, if any, of the knowledge they teach in school and I think they should change that and once you reach 7th grade I think you and your parents should choose if you want to continue down the traditional academic path or have a trade school focused path were you learn skills like carpentry, metal working, auto repair, sewing and the end goal of this trade school is apprenticeship once your graduate from your senior year.
It's amazing to me that this surprises people... I used to work at a college and the dumbest things I've ever heard were said there. The dumbest people I've ever met had the most degrees.
As someone who didn't want to waste time and money on a useless degree it really pisses me off that I am pretty much discriminated against bc I don't have a useless peice of paper and an insane amount of debt.
I have a small tech company. Been lucky to attract the very top students in great local tech graduate schools. Even they need to be told what to do and don’t show initiative. Average students are virtually useless to me.
They don’t know common sense things like apples grow on trees, bananas you can actually pick them and eat them. These people think you have to go to some kind of process to actually eat these things. That’s how crazy it is.
Hell yeah best combination: Graduates don't know how to think and companies don't want to train.
I hated school with a passion. I loved aviation from such a young age. All I wanted to do was fly. I aced math and physics. Flunked history biology and english. I could not care for a damn thing about any of those subjects and was deemed a failure in the eyes of the school. By this time ive saved up all my allowance since i was 6 to pay for flight school and was 5 hrs away from getting my license.
The board tells my parents that i was not on track to graduate and was going to be held back. I dropped out of high school, finished my private pilot certificate, got a job to finish paying my endorsements, get my commercial, my tail wheel endorsement, and my ag training certificate. I loaded the first two seasons, jumped in a training craft on the third, been spraying every season ever since.. Well I lie. I did take a season off to learn cave diving. 85,000 for 6 months work.
The 6 month time to live and travel. That's priceless. I remember so vividly back then how weird it was to see everyone stressing out so much over trivial work they had to do to get a grade that didn't matter.
That’s because they’re use to looking up everything. I use to be a professor and chose obscure authors that couldn’t be looked up on the internet and the students would lose his and her mind. They don’t truth themselves to answer the questions on their own.
This is happening at large corporations also.
I work with so many of those….I didn’t go to college but a can outthink all of them n my sleep… More importantly is the lack of creative thinking…
Our college college graduates have been groomed to think one way they can’t think on their own employers today in 2024 do not want to hire people like graduate college and I don’t blame them. I’ve known people like this is what’s going on in the real world.