The GoXLR is DEAD. Buy these instead.
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TC Helicon has laid off all remaining staff responsible for software, driver, and firmware updates - and this means the GoXLR no longer has any official support. BUT there is some hope in a new open source program for it.
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Any suggestions on the best 2 pc setup for the Wave XLR? Willing to grab the Stream Deck + as well.
Saw your tweet, was disappointed. I always used to recommend GOXLR to my clients. Razer Mixer has few bugs which are still not addressed yet since it release. I appreciate you taking time and releasing the video in 8 hours from the post. You have always helped me in ways you cant imagine. Thank You
how do i make a backup of my installer and stuff? My goxlr is working perfectly and I don't really plan on getting a replacement anytime soon.
i have a behringer xenyx 302usb, and was looking to get the goxlr mainly so i can control other audio channels while gaming and talking on discord (don't really stream or make videos, just want a good audio setup). also wanted to get something so when i launch a freshly installed game, i want to be able to turn the volume down on that game and hear others talking (can't stand how loud games are when you first start them for the first time and you can't hear anything else) are there any other devices besides the razer mixer and goxlr that can do all that?
Roland BRIDGE CAST !!! It's a musical instrument maker, and the sound is good! It is convenient to have 4 channels of loopback.
Roland Bridge Cast is also a great device to replace the go xlr
can someone recommend which installer i should download as a pack up just incase i have a goxlr mini would be a huge help
Im not very familiar with audio devices like these too too much, but im looking for one in order to make some voice changer content, I currently use Voicemod, but im looking to upgrade from that and use other features with it, what should I get?
Wow great video thank you for this!! I am specifically looking for something that is known for its low latency. I just want to ensure the audio coming from my gaming PC and going into my headphones (which i imagine will be connected to my mixer) is as close to real time as possible. What do you suggest?
Any recommendations for a dual pc (gaming/streaming) setup? Thanks for the vid bud
any suggestions for another sampler that is setup the same way as goxlrs?
More reasons we need to have companies to build their software/firmware in mind in that if they ever closeup/go under then open source software can replace it.
Probably won't happen till the EU mandates it, but would be a huge proponent to stopping unnecessary e-waste, while also getting more people in to programming and modding.
This. I still have some fantastic firewire interfaces that I keep around because I love the preamps on them. But dead driver support means I have to plug them into another interface just so I could use them. Which sucks because a couple of my older interfaces have motorized faders, full transport controls and all the bells and whistles.
this is not profitable and will not happen
@@wigglerlesbian how is it unprofitable when the company closes up or goes under? Like unless they're bought out or sell off their IP, they're going to the grave and not making money anyways.
I have the Rodecaster Pro 2, and would suggest the newly released Duo if you do not need 4 XLR/line inputs - the Duo has 2, which might be plenty for most streamers.
RCP 2 for the win going forward
Wondering if the RODE Streamer X would be a valid alternative, too. And agree, the RCPII is banging, the Duo looks solid too.
Duo would have been nice if it had a line in channel for something like consoles
I bought the Rodecaster Duo to replace my GOXLR and it's a beautiful little machine the sound quality is noticeably better than the GOXLR, I know it's a subjective statement. However I did return the Rodecaster Duo and went back to the GOXLR for one simple reason, the Rodecaster can't do submixes and that was deal breaker for me. Rumour on the street is that will be fixed in the very near future with a patch according to the Rode Software development map.
@@johnqcanadiantoo4174 They got submixes awhile ago. They have it under routing in the menu.
I valued having the built in sound pad a little more than submixing so what I ended up picking up recently just with how approachable the cost was compared to the GoXLR was the Zoom Podtrak P4. Also being a podcaster, I can also enjoy having the built in recording functionality on top of 4 XLR ports each with phantom power and the ability to link my phone as an input and output as a USB interface.
Hey EposVox! I don't know if you'll reply to this comment as this video is a bit older but do you still use your Revelator io24? I just ordered mine and I am excited to try it out, as I am tired of using my GoXLR and before I used to use the Line 6 UX2 as my interface with an Onboard DSP, however it is ancient and feels like a Fisher-Price toy. I wonder if you still daily drive it and if you don't what interface do you use / recommend that has Onboard DSP?
Picked up a Rodecaster Duo and it is not a replacement for the GoXLR. The sliders/faders are assigned to a USB input. Which means you can't control your game, system, music, voice chat, mic volume, individually. The only workaround I was able to find is to connect a second usb-c from PC to Rodecaster Duo and assign my music to that input. So my music was controlled by that fader, and everything else was controlled by the other fader. Ulltimately I ended up returning the Rodecaster Duo because it just missed the mark.
I like the preamps in my goxlr mini for my mic not sure if i want to get rid of it.
Its on sale rn on amazon 56% off should i get ??
That's too bad. The GoXLR is my favorite device for streaming.
It had a solid place in the markrt
@@EposVox I have no issues at all with mine. Everything works perfectly. I'll continue to use mine untill it no longer works.
The RCP2 that you recommend doesn't have nearly as good of audio routing capabilities according to one person I know who has used both devices.
As far as I know nothing else on the market has such good audio routing. The GoXLRs audio routing table should be a standard UI on all similiar type devices imo.
@@AnthonyGoodley I own both and i still love the GoXLR more because of the fact that you only need one usb cable for all 4 mixers where as with the RCP2 you need to connect two usb-c cables to your pc just for the same functionality, on top of that I've had issues with the RCP2 randomly disconnecting or sometimes my mic would stop being detected.
Have you considered reviewing the Behringer Flow 8? Not sure if it’s a multi mix but looks interesting
Which one has better sound quality and more versatile reverb effects, RODE Caster Pro2, or GoXLR? I only do live singing.
Can I use Yamaha AG03 mixer?
I kept trying to figure out whatever else was running making that background sound that was popping and stuff.
how do I make a copy for the installer/firmware updater like you mentioned? would that be somewhere in my program files? Definitely want to future proof as much as possible.
Just download from their website
Ive got a Goxlr 2 weeks ago... I been wanting one for the past 2 years. Finally got my hands on one and I love it! Does this mean I am screwed as a new owner of this device?
Been using the Revelator IO24 with the Stream Deck+ and MV7. Its been great, the only sore point is the IO24 and some of the quirks in the software interface. If you set it and don't mess with it, its fine. However it had a great tendency to seemingly revert settings which is frustrating. When I get tired of it ill most likely step up to the Rode line of products.
Would love to see a review about the new Roland Bridge Cast.
It seems like a great GoXLR alternative with a lot of physical control.
Are you planning to look at the Rode Streamer X? I'd really love to see you take on it!
I'm supprised that you do not mentionned the Roland Bridge Cast, i bougth one nearly 3month ago to replace my GoXLR, and it is realy good.
I have been using the Wave XLR with the Rode Podmic for about 4 months now and it is great. Picked up the Stream Deck + a little over a month ago and it has been game changing.
Question if I purchase the wave xlr and I connect my rode PodMic , how do you use your headphones like where do you have your headphones connected and what kind a headphones do you have ? I don’t know too much about this
@@Xmatador20 there is a port for headphones on wave xlr. . .with 3.5mm jack
Its time to compare budget av1 codecs? rx7600 x 4060 x a750?
Can we get a update on this
welp thanks for the awesome product even though mine has it's 3.5mm jack break down twice within 1 year of use.
But quick question though, does anyone really removed their protective film?
Not meeeee
question about the elgato wave xlr can you use a xlr splitter for 2 xlr mic audio ?
No
@@EposVox thanks for the reply I always wanted to know if its possible
I’ve been using Rødes Streamer X with their Unify software, shure sm7b mic and a two PC stream setup. Works well for me and saves a ton desk real estate (previously had rodecaster 2).
Shame. I was planning to upgrade my traditional Mackie mixer to it. Incidentally the new Mackie DLZ looks interesting as a replacement and hopefully you can take a look at it as well.
I've been really happy with my Presonus Revelator Dynamic USB combo'd with a Stream Deck+... mostly. [This isn't seeking support here, just saying this solution isn't perfect and has some annoyances which affects workflow.]
I had to install a VST to downmix the microphone to mono because for reasons I cannot comprehend it was transmitting left channel only (despite being toggled to mono in Universal Control), and also that the Stream Deck+ has this annoying bug where any input on the touch screen repeats itself after the first one. e.g.: I tap to mute the Browser (works), then tap to mute Game (unmutes Browser, does nothing to Game), tap to mute Game again (now Game and Browser are both muted), and so on, so forth. I don't dare swipe to change pages because touching anything on the new page repeats the swipe function to take me to the previous page.
There's also having to mute the monitor mix from the mic in Wave Link because of the bad delay compared to just listening through the mic itself (which is where my headphones pass through, rather than the PC).
I'm still really happy with the Avermedia Nexus tbh. Especially since they added a routing table. Been getting consistent updates too. Does everything I want, and works as a solution for 2 PC setups too. I feel like it got a bad rap on launch. The Stream Deck+ has some unbeatable value for anyone wanting to use their own interface or a USB mic too.
I need to check it out again
Have they fixed where you have to go to two different places for one channel and its sub mix to change the volume?
@@UnknownReverence Ever since i first owned it, i set a button to change between creator and audience mix. Id press the button, change whatever audio levels i want to audience mix (and its monitoring in the headphones so I can hear how it sounds to the audience as im making the changes), then press the button to switch back to creator mix and all is well. Its easy.
I have it also and I love it, but some stuff really annoy me; like compressor on it is really trash, there is no limiter whatsoever, EQ is fairly good, but no options for custom Hz, so for some music recording or else it's pretty basic.
Also it could be I don't know how to set it up properly, but I either sound compressed as hell, or to low volume with still clipping somehow on sm7b
I'm going to be honest I have an updated the software for it in years it does exactly what I needed it to do
So, I should return the GoXLR that arrived from Amazon today...or, should I keep it, since legally it would need to work through the end of its 3 year warranty period and the company would be responsible for a solution if it failed during that period 🤔
Well timed video, I was looking for something to get
I was just thinking when you'd upload again and my god you did
I just picked up the Rodecaster Pro 2 open box for $400 CAD and I'm loving it so far. Few gripes with it but overall it's a really incredible tool. I actually think the Rodecaster Duo makes a lot more sense as a GO XLR replacement, in terms of price, connectivity, and functionality. As you mentioned, the Pro 2 is a bit overkill.
This open-source version, are they adding windows support? Or is it strictly Linux and Mac only?
Windows support too!
I started with a Maono mixer and mic bundle and it was a decent more "budget" option with dual XLR capability.
Thank you for this. I was actually considering getting one of these things.
The words you want to look for in audio interface is "class compliant" which means it is agnostic to operating systems and near universally supported without additional software.
Wow, that was a close call, i was looking in the market for a new interface and was thinking about the boxer but wanted something that was a bit smaller but i was very close just to buying it, so I dodged a bullet on that one.
Bought one few months ago. Sent it back immediately when i learned part of the team left to work on a different project. Took a Roadcaster 2 instead at the time.
I went with a medium-sized analog mixer (Mackie 1402VLZ4) instead of a GoXLR because I was concerned about losing software support someday, among other things. Glad I did.
Rodecaster Pro 2 looks extremely interesting... nice chunk of change but it looks like it has everything I had in the GoXLR and more
I have been using my midi keyboard as a goxlr type of device. Theres a software called midi mixer that allows you to use it as such. have 8 volume dials in total and 8 physical pads but 16 in total cause theres a bank A and bank B i can switch to.
I don't know how people are using the Rodecaster as a GoXLR replacement without some major compromises. Only 3 USB audio devices (and you have to use up TWO ports on your PC). Whereas with GoXLR, you had 5 USB audio devices. The upgrade path just isn't there if you want to keep it similar to your GoXLR setup.
What do you think of the Lewitt Connect 6? Not a viable option or alternative?
Looks great! I’ll be reviewing it soon acrually
@@EposVox Awesome, cant wait to see the review and your thoughts about it!!!
Can anyone help me understand why this means the GoXLR is dead? Why would this piece of hardware need software support updates to stay fully functional and "alive?"
I still use my GO XLR Mini for all my audio. I'm still happy with it but back in early 2020 there wasn't nearly as many options out there for something like it.
I might be a little bit bias here, as I helped getting the opensource GoXLR Utility working on Windows (yes, the windows version is the port from the Linux one).
I would say, use the stable firmware, it should be possible to flash back if your on the beta. I don't think the firmware will be opensource, and there is some encryption when flashing, making it hard to reverse engineer without support from tc-helicon.
For the opensource GoXLR Utility, the device has never been more alive. Everything is controlled through an API, that means that everything you can do from the app. A plugin can also do.
So now it's theoretical (until a plugin exists) possible to control the device from not only Stream Deck, but also OBS and similar. And you will also be able to use multiple plugins (not like the official one that was limited to just one).
The opensource version also a lot better when it comes to accessibility, and can now be used by blind or visually impaired people.
For the Windows version, it does require the official tc-helicon drivers (Linux and MacOS does not). And you cannot run it at the same time as you run the official GoXLR App (as the official one gets confuced and crashes).
All in all... the device has been "dead" before, and only time will tell if this is the case for now.
However... I understand the skepticism as there is basically just one developer on the opensource version at this point. I would suggest all that starts using the free opensource version to consider sponsor the developer (I do monthly), but that's not a requirement.
I would love to see what you think of the Roland Bridge Cast. It seems very promising as something that could replace a GoXLR.
Ditto
It was too expensive and when completing solutions appeared, the prices should have been lowered.
Still using mine, though I have a Mackie DLZ coming this week, which does not rely on Windows software to run it. It already has it all onboard.
All I'd love is an XLR interface with the ability to run custom VST plugins on the device. I know that would require additional hardware because they wouldn't be able to run on the DSP as most of the time that's quite specialized hardware, but just adding in what is effectively a microcomputer with just the capabilities of running VST plugins, even if limited to just a couple and under a certain size, would be very nice. It's often necessary to still add further effects to a voice other than just the typical noise gate, EQ and compression provided on most DSPs. Not that running a couple VST's cause that much work for the PC, but it's not completely negligible if you're already close to bottlenecked.
For the Rodecaster Pro 2, they have released the Duo recently which is 2 XLR ports instead of 4 and 4 faders instead of 6. It's $200 cheaper at 499 instead of 699, still on the high end but you still get all the features as long as 4 physical faders and 2 XLR ports are enough.
The Avermedia Nexus is getting better with each update, I still find it lacking a bit from what I've seen.
As for the Beacn Mix and Mix Create I agree that most of the functionality can be achieved with a Streamdeck+ if you have one, however you'd need to find a separate solution for a routing table. the Routing table in Beacn software is in my opinion the nicest to use routing table I've seen in a software yet, and hopefully other companies take note of how intuitive and easy it is to use without lacking flexibility, I just seriously, seriously wish they have just added an XLR port to it, the idea of getting it alongside another interface is a bit silly. For USB microphones it would be fine, but for XLR setups you need an XLR interface along with the Mix. Honestly I wish they'd just release a version of the Mix Create that basically just took the internals from the Beacn Mic and connected it to XLR instead of the analog signal directly from the capsule, it'd be nice to use the Beacn software and features (for example the noise removal, not noise gate, which I haven't seen really anywhere else) on any XLR microphone.
Wave XLR let’s you run VSTs
@@EposVox I meant on the device, not just in the processing chain. I like how interfaces with built in DSP's help to offload the processing off your device. While the Wave XLR allows you to run VSTs prior to the sound being emitted to the output, those VSTs as far as I can tell run locally, not on the device, meaning the processing takes up CPU resources. I'm just saying I'd like a device that allows you to upload VSTs to the device and have the device run a VST host that processes the audio before being sent to the PC.
Compared to DSP which is designed to be very fast, effectively running highly optimized simple math on a stream of data with very little latency between input and output, VSTs can be quite intensive sometimes and may introduce a sizable amount of delay, so it most likely wouldn't be able to be monitored effectively without hearing the delay.
I have been using the Rodecaster Pro 2 and I am one of the ones that swear by it. LOL. I have 2 pc's and a ps5 connected to this thing and it has severely simplified my setup. Gaming console does not work properly if you connect it with a usb-c. You will have to get an audio extracter at least for the PS5 and a balance 3.5mm to 2XLR Male Stereo cable and connect it to 2XLR female ports on the RC2. Great thing is you can combine the 2 ports to 1 knob on the device through the software and is very easy to do. Great thing is you do not need a hum destroyer to get the noise out. This works very well for my 3 device setup as I do not have to switch cables or do anything extra. With all the audio features to process the sound the way I want it connected to my sub and 2 studio monitors, it is like i was in a new world that I was missing out on. LOL
I originally regretted selling off my GoXLR but, that was back in early December and money was a far more pressing matter for me at the time. I always favored the Wave XLR over the GoXLR due to its control via Wave Link. I drooled over the release of the Stream Deck +, and was hoping to get it someday. After finally getting it, I can now no longer go back to the GoXLR even if I wanted to have it. The level of control the SD+ gives me now is just too good.
I'm hoping the volunteer GoXLR team tries to implement a lot of what customers have been asking for, but now that official support is done I think it's going to be highly unlikely that I'll ever pick this up again.
And today they announced their white model. Fire sale?
I swear the the Rodecaster Pro II but I would like a couple extra features including extra ins and outs on the 2ndary USB instead of just 1.
I love using my stream deck plus with my SSL2+ audio interface. IT'S PRETTY AMAZING. My rodecaster 2 sits on the side if i ever need it. With having both im covered.
What? how? I'm sorry for your loss.
Voicemeeter Potato with a AKAI MidiMix Mixer. My only complaint is the driver is unable to be used on multiple programs at once, so if you wanna use some of it with obs and some with voicemeeter you have to setup a relay program. Which AKAI would update this.
Lewitt Connect 6 and Beacn Mix Create here, both of them have been pretty good for me so far.
I’m playing with the Lewitt soon, stoked for it
Don't really understand why behringer does'nt weighs in with a "streaming-specialized" product. I use a Xr18 for years, works great just need a reduced and more user friendly version.
I use the Roland Bridgecast and love it.
Actually just got around to upgrading to XLR recently and got the Yamaha ZG01 as my interface. Super solid and has the more basic overall features you could ask for and then some with the HDMI switch that pulls surround sound audio.
no audio splitting which is critical for content creators/streamers
@@ArthurTully It does split the audio though. Full separate channels with individual mixing dials for voice and game.
If anything the main problem is what most everyone points out in that it's a brand new mixer with only HDMI 2.0
Damn thats rough. But thanks for the update
I've been using the io24 since you did your first Video on it. I've been more or less happy with it. I run an odd setup where I use a single SM7B going into 2 different comptuers with Art Pro Split into the io24 to my main rig, and a GoXLR Mini that I got for free into my work laptop (use the mic for VOIP/Teams).
People should also take a look at the Yamaha AG08 too, as a GoXLR alternative.
I bought the Rodecaster Pro 2 as a replacement of my GoXLR a month ago to have the possibility to plug instruments and do some new stuff on my streams. I am not disappointed. It's really a good device, but it's quite expensive (but if you do the math of all the things it can do, that's not really the case).
Unless you are using all 4 mic inputs it´s waste of money and there are interfaces that comes along with pluging in instruments, that are made for it, Rodecaster was not made for it but is possible.
@@luk7n List the interfaces you recommend, then.
@@ChaseFace the Rodecaster Duo! Its functionally the same just smaller and 200 bucks cheaper. You lose some inputs and whatnot but its still more than enough for the average user
I've had mine since 2020! And I still love it to this day. Sucks to see the company go.
I've been digging the Lewitt Connect 6
It's strange that you didn't mention the "Rodecaster Duo" that runs at exactly the same price as the GoXLR and the new FIFINE AMPLIGAME SC3 that runs around $50.00.. I know you haven't reviewed them but would really like your input on these devices..
Honestly today is the first I’m hearing of the Duo. Fifine mostly makes junk so I don’t bother recommending them most of the time
Weeeeell, Shiiiieeeeet. 🙃 That explains literally all of my conversations with anyone (formerly) on the GO XLR team back when I was trying to find out how to do Submixing. I'm glad I've had it for over a year at least. Still... that's an expensive purchase that I hope lasts a few more years before the software craps out.
The PreSonus Revelator IO24 becomes totally useless after updating to the latest firmware. It has so many annoying problems, like the phantom power shutting down after a reboot. Even though they released an update recently, it's still a mess and has major issues, such as the last active preset getting reset every time you reboot it.
I put a few tickets in with them. They acknowledged it but didn't say others were having the same issue. Just advised to roll back the software and drivers. Which I did. Still no new update with a fix though. Frustrating.
The RODE Duo and Streamer X just came out too.
i have an evo 8 on my main desktop and an evo 4 on my studio pc. great interfaces imo.
So happy you're fixing the audio errors with the Mac, this video is riddled with pops and clicks...
The Audient EVO 4 is a tough little beast. Been using this hardworking, no-nonsense interface for two years and it's going strong.
Meybe there is posibility to see you doing review of this thing? I kinda looks promising, just not can’t find value review
The Rodecaster is amazing, but it is overkill for most people. However, they have now released small versions which are more akin to the GoXLR in terms of price that may be worth visiting
Love my Beacn products, the Mix Create & their Mic. Had to ditch my previous XLR mic, I forget what model Shure, since that connection isn't supported by Beacn, but all the better IMO.
A real shame what happened here. I wonder if it was simply a "business decision" that profits were not large enough, or there were no profits at all.
Saw senpaigaming also use the mackie DLZ creator mixer and it seems it might be a good replacement for GO XLR and seems to have less issues than the rhodecaster pro 2 atm except its around that $700 mark so a bit more pricier. However it has a larger screen and a lot more fine tune optimization imo
I know a lot of these kinds of mixers/interfaces have features that streamers and creators love, but I've always found the interfaces offered by established companies with a track record and history of quality audio engineering hardware design and making to be much better performance wise such as quality preamps and much more reliable. I went with an Audient iD14 mk2 a year ago and have no regrets. It lacks some of the not really critical fluff style features of streamer style mixers, but it's got a damn good preamp and has been solid, plus cost less. I wish GoXLR users the best, but a healthy level of suspicion for new companies and products can help save future headaches
Hopefully the company can open thier internal hardware documentatiun to support opensource driver development.
Damn...welp, I guess that's the kick in the pants I needed to move on to the Wave XLR. I stopped streaming and making content a few years ago but the GoXLR was great for my remote work and the content I create in the context of my job. However, ever since I upgraded to Win 11, the whole thing turned...clunky. The Stream Deck plugin always needs a few restarts of the GoXLR app to kick in. Even the app itself seems to have a delay between switching profiles and them registering on the device. I've been itching to switch to a more software based solution and the Wave is perfect. RIP I guess....
😢 my hopes for a dry wet nob for vocal effects has just died. I wish the goxlr would have continued support for many years. Sad to see a solid audio interface not be supported.
it is currently a paper weight. newest windows update broke mine
I have the presonus it works on my Mac,iPad,pc
Scarlet 2i2 since begore goxlr came out (for recording online courses), and just last month picked up streamdeck+, wave xlr for input and output control... Cause already I saw no point in the goxlr since it is too big (I have a zed 14 if I want sliders for input and midi mixer + nano krontrol 2 for output with sliders
As someone on a tight budget, I hope this means a significant drop in price. If so, I might pick one up and use the open source options.
I have been using the RodeCaster Pro 2 since it was released. It is awesome!!!
Well this explains why my mini hasn't gotten an update in forever.
I would've kept using a GoXLR if the USB-B wasn't so awful. I tried a couple different cables and none of them worked. Every time I went to the discord to talk about it, they never once blamed their own product and just suggested trying other cables. How could it be that even the cable supplied with the unit would not fit snug and cause it to disconnect if my desk made the slightest movement?
Either way, really happy with my Elgato Wave XLR. It is a much more stable product and even supports VST plugins through Wave Link. It is really great.