I got me some 600 spine arrows with 100 gr brass and 150 gr tips pulling 48 lbs to the fingers. My arrows are flying like bullets. Thanks a million man. I don't have anyone to learn from so you've pretty much been my mentor, I've been watching you for 2 months now and you've transformed my shot. I don't think I would have been ready for the hunt this year without you Jeff, thank you and God bless 😎
Jeff, I changed my arrow set up this summer too. I shoot a 42@28 limbs and draw right about 30in. I used a VAP TKO Elite V1 in a 400 spine. 95gr insert. 200gr VPA 3 blade. Already killed a deer in Tennessee. Complete pass through. Best penetration Ive had since my wedding night!
I love how take the time to help everyone out. I just got a Fed Bear Kodiac recurve and trying to figure out what the best settup is is not easy lol. Thank you for all your help
Back in the nineties I was shooting a 55 LB draw brackenbury recurve. What you were saying I find to be fact. The only difference in your set up was I used a heavier bow being I am 6' 1 1/2" tall and weigh 220LBS .As I was watching your video it dawned on me that Your system looks like a person could use ratio to proportion to set up their bow if one happens to use a different draw weight bow than you? I used a 160 grain broadhead on my arrows and canted my bow till the shelf made a perfect "V" with my bow tuned properly my arrow would jump in line with my eye after leaving the bow. This let me know I was going to hit where I was looking 95% of the time and the few times it didn't it was only a fraction off. You are the first person that I have seen that sets up a bow almost exactly as I use to. People that want to perfect their archery skill would be wise to follow your advice.
I'm new at it I have a 55# at 28" traditional bow ...I mean that's how it's labeled . I was trying to figure out what combo and now I have much better idea thank you very much and God bless👊👍✌️
Last year I got a nice pass through on a buck using 53 lbs longbow@29 inch draw . Using 350 spine almost full length black Eagle outlaw arrows with 220 up front . This year on my 45 lbs bow I use black Eagle outlaw 500 spine cut to 31 inches 200 total up front. Hope for a pass through!!!!!
Always nice to hear from you jeff. When i get asked by new guys what CZcams channel to watch to learn from your #1 Cheers and good luck with the upcoming season
Howdy Jeff, scenario question for ya, 51 pound longbow here, 615 grain arrow...350 upfront...use that arrow on deer and black bear, no issues. Now let's say you get drawn for an elk hunt...on the ground hunting...do you lessen your arrow weight to make 30 yard max shots a little easier, and take abit of a penetration minus....or do you keep the same arrow and now say 25 yards or bust? Thanks my friend. I can honestly say when I hear you say "absolutely perfect" I always crack a smile!
Well, for elk at 30 yards plus you’ll definitely need plenty of FOC for penetration and your 615’s sound perfect to me but you can do the same thing with a faster and flatter shooting 550gr setup like the Airstrike or Axis with around 275 up front, I’ve got some Airstrike 400’s with 120 gr Ethics and 200gr VPA’s flying really fast and flat out of a 50# recurve, definitely a killer Elk setup 👍🏻
I have gotten frustrated bare shaft tuning with a nocking point that was set too low, so that basically nothing was gonna fly. I used to set a temporary nock set about 1/8 of an inch high. I shifted to starting at 1/4 inch high and that seemed to greatly improve the starting arrow flight testing for up and down. Even if you shoot canted, you have to tune holding the bow straight up and down or you will get all kinds of false readings on arrow flight. Isn't it awesome when an arrow will dart with no fletching in a matched set up?
Absolutely! All of my bows typically require between 1/2” and 3/4” usually 5/8” above center is the magic spot and arrow diameter does affect the nock height needed for a good bareshaft tune as far as the up and down are concerned 👍🏻
Great content. Thank you. Looking for some of your advice.... I'm loving how the 7.3 grain in the gold tip 500 Red labeled hunter Is spitting out The full length 30" shaft with 300 grains up front.... Out of my 45lb pound recurve.... My problem is Why in the world did they stop at 30"😳? I have 2 Additional bows that I'm trying to tune with them but I find that the 30" shaft is not quite long enough To work with my other 2 bows. So my questions is What arrow would you recommend That has the same or lighter grains per inch that will accept the standard Gold tip100gr brass inserts since I have a large Quantity of them? Thank you in advance. I always appreciate all your videos.
Yes sir, I’ve actually experimented with that and what I’ve found is that once the FOC becomes too heavy for the particular shaft and they’re all different natured even in the exact same spine and length they start kicking tail high and even with feathers tend to dive quickly and usually that’s around 350-400 grains.
I am shooting a Ogema long bow at 46 pounds draw length is 28 inches. What shaft size should I shoot? I want 100 grain insert and a 175 VPA Broadhead… what is a good heavy arrow that I can shoot from it. I want to cut my arrows about 29 1/2 inches.
I’d say a 400 and that’ll allow you to add point weight if you need to, you’re right on the borderline of being able to shoot 500’s but if nothing else I’d go with a 400 and cut it 30” with 275 up front, I’m not exactly sure how center shot the Omega is and that’s got a lot to do with it also.
@@cavincastleberry8866 okay you can probably still go with 500’s at 29.5” if it’s cut to center and not past center I think they’ll be good, you might want to order a bare shaft test kit from 3rivers just to play with before ordering arrows that’s what I would do just to be sure they come with everything you need to figure it out then you’ll know!
Which cutting diameter VPA 3 blade are you shooting, 1 1/8 or 1 1/4. Im currently shooting a bear grizzly recurve 45# at 28. Im pulling 43#, and using black eagle vintage 500 shafts, simmons 190 tree sharks and factory inserts. The black eagles seem stiffer then other brands and measure 34 inch’s before cutting, so I may add a 100 brass insert along with the 190-200 gr head because I have plenty of room to cut.
That was my 1st (real) bow in 1977 8th grader. Shot that thing to death.. Still shooting traditional..very satisfying..moved to Sky Trophy long bow in 93 still going strong. Sorry,when i read Bear Grizzly Recurve it brought back A Lot of good memories. Hope you have good times with yours. Oh yeah ! use a bow stringer I'd never heard of one when I was a kid and eventually I guess I twisted a limb. Self taught also and still learning 45 years later..
New to traditional archery world transitioning from compound bow hunting. Got me a Mandarin Duck Black Hunter Longbow 28 draw 40lb draw weight. What hunting arrow setup would you run?
I love your videos. I’m shooting a Hoyt satori 47lb @26” draw. I’m looking for an arrow setup with great penetration and descent speed for deer and bear what would you recommend? Thanks again for your videos they are the best
With a Satori I’d definitely go with a 400 loaded up on front at least around 275gr total because they’re true center shot especially without the spacers 👍🏻
Probably gonna be too stiff unless they’re full length, and a lot depends on your draw length , even a 400 spine cut down below around 29” will be pretty stiff for that bow.
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 30" draw. The arrows are cut to 31".So around 53# draw total. It's for hunting. The guy at my archery store said 340 spine with 250 grain broadhead would be perfect. But your opinion helps too. So you would suggest a 400 grain with 250 grain broadhead?
@@chadcowman6293 all you can do to know for sure is skin one and bare shaft test it with a field point to see and it might be fine, you can always bump up the point weight a little more if it impacts tail right but that’s the only way to know for sure unless they’re flying the broadhead really good at like 30 yards, it takes that much distance to really watch what the flight looks like and you can do that if you don’t want to cut the feathers off.
Wayne I shoot a 40lb @ 28in Old Mountain Mesa. I'm pulling 29 so probably 42-43 lbs. I shoot the exact same arrow & weight up front as Jeff except mine is cut to 30.25 inches & they shoot like a lazer😁
I use left, the only difference is which way your string is twisted and even if they’re different it’s not critical but I don’t see any difference in flight at all because the arrow isn’t spinning until it leaves the bow anyway 👍🏻
Dear Jeff! Some time ago you wrote that to your low 40 # bow you use 600 spine with 70 grain insert and 150 grains broadhead. Is it the same like 100 grain insert och 125 broadhead? I know that 100 gr insert is a bit longer than 70. What is your opinion on this? Thank you for your help! Greetings Filip
Yes sir it’s pretty much the same, the longer inserts just seem to strengthen the shaft a little as far as hard impact is concerned that’s why I really like the Victory Shok outserts, they’ve got a longer post and actually protect the arrow tip as well they’re a great option.
@@manuelgonzalezzambrano1989 Hi Manuel! I thought I hade exactly the same draw as Jeff so I cut my arrows at my shortest possible length and this weight was to much. Att the end I end up with 100 grain insert and only 70 grain field point. Then I had to go for 500 spine and 225 - 250 grain fram. These arrows are bit longer than I would like to but as I said 600 was too weak for my 40# bow with 225 fram. Good luck!
I shot split for many years and never bare shafted. I switched to 3 under and tried bare shafting this year. I have gotten prefect arrow flight out of these shafts out to 30 yards. Decided I wanted to switch back to split and am having a heck of a time finding the correct nock height. I've gone from 1/8" to 3/4" and it always flies nock high and into the dirt past 15 yards. I've tried a split finger tab and now a glove and am getting the same results. I don't think I'm pinching the nock but I could be wrong. I also feel I have a fairly consistent release. Any ideas on what could be happening?
Yes sir and this is an all too common problem with lots of people and from what I can determine it’s in the tiller of the bow itself, sometimes the bow is just not tillered for split meaning it’s closer to even than positive which is perfect for three under but not split, sometimes you can get certain arrows with higher FOC to tune and fly well, I’ve found that in that situation the best fix is to do the old toothpick under the rest trick to elevate the rest a little 👍🏻
@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 I spent the afternoon trying to figure it out. I tried the toothpick with no luck and also a small piece of furniture pad to raise it to over a 1/4 of an inch also with no luck. The tiller measurements of this bow are 7 3/8" for the top limb and 7 1/2", so that's a negative tiller, right? Could that be the problem? Not sure if this matters because I had gotten great flight out of them with 3 under but I am shooting full length Easton Gamegetter 340s with roughly 205 grains up front (including insert) and a total of around 610 grains. 60lb black hunter longbow with a 26in draw length. Thank you for taking the time to get back to me, I really appreciate it.
@@ZombieOnaStick21 yep that’s the issue for sure, it’s just gonna have to be a three under bow lol unless you can just run the nock high enough to get decent flight with feathers on split but I’d just shoot it three under brother 👍🏻
@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 I'll give it another shot with split tomorrow but I'll probably run it 3 under. I'd rather have the good arrow flight. Just been hard for me to get used to 3 under trajectory after shooting split for so long. But I'll get it. Thanks again and good luck this season.
Hey Jeff, how are you buddy? Hey I don't have an email address for you so I hope you find this here. I need your advice on something. Right after I got my bow from you I bought a Sellway Bow Quiver for it. It came and I tried to mount it on my bow, and I ordered the recurve model, but it would not fit. I could not mount the quiver any closer than about 6 to 8 inches from the fadeout of the riser and the limbs. The first time I drew the bow with that on there it was definately harder to draw. If I tried to force the thing down the limbs closer to the riser, the rubber parts would just come apart. So this just wasn't going to work and I returned it. Then I bought a "Big Jim's Bow Company" quiver with about the same results. So at that point I just gave up on using a bow quiver at all. Then I came across Bob Lee Bow Company's website. Bob Lee was the guy who owned Wing Archery many years ago and in fact I have two of his bows I bought in the early 70's. Anyhow, they sell a Great Northern Bow Quiver and a mounting system that uses the limb bolts to attach the quiver to the riser. I thought this would be the perfect quiver as it mounts to the riser and not the limbs. So I ordered one and asked when I ordered it if they thought it would work with my bow. Bob Lee Bows have two bolts per limb, whereas mine only has one bolt per limb. In my first communication with them they thought it should work just fine. But this morning I got an email from them saying that: “Unfortunately, we are flying blind on how the Quick Mount Great Northern will perform on your Instinctive Addiction Archery longbow, and as such, cannot offer much input on the subject. Have you spoken to the bowyer, and/or to Great Northern about this? They would no doubt be able to help. We are reluctant to ship but we will do so with your blessing.” I’m at a point right now where I feel like if this quiver mounting setup won’t work I will just hunt witht my bow in my left hand and an arrow in my right hand. I probably will only get one shot anyhow if I do run onto and elk, but these quivers that mount to the limbs just aren’t working out for me. Here is the link to Bob Lee Bows company video where they show how this quiver mounts to the bow. If you wouldn’t mind watching it and letting me know what you think, I sure would appreciate it. Here is a link to the video on their website that shows the mountin of one of these quivers to their bow. bobleebows.com/install-quiver-bob-lee-bow/ Thanks Jeff and I’m sorry to put this in the comment section of your video but don’t know any other way of getting touch with you via a message of some kind. Thanks again Jeff, and take care of yourself. Jim
Hello Jim, yes sir the great northern bolt on quivers work just fine and we’ve ran selway slide on recurve quivers on all the Carbon Vapor longbow limbs because they’re usually around 1 3/8” wide limbs finished but anyway the bolt on is a great option 👍🏻
@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 Thanks Jeff I appreciate the help. I emailed them back and told them to go ahead and ship it to me. Thanks again pal. Jim
I got me some 600 spine arrows with 100 gr brass and 150 gr tips pulling 48 lbs to the fingers. My arrows are flying like bullets. Thanks a million man. I don't have anyone to learn from so you've pretty much been my mentor, I've been watching you for 2 months now and you've transformed my shot. I don't think I would have been ready for the hunt this year without you Jeff, thank you and God bless 😎
@@chrischris4869 and now I know arrow lingo 😂
Spin 600, 48lbs and strike weight 250 greins.....that arrow can't fly well, nor will it hit straight...it will affect penetration too much.
Jeff, I changed my arrow set up this summer too. I shoot a 42@28 limbs and draw right about 30in. I used a VAP TKO Elite V1 in a 400 spine. 95gr insert. 200gr VPA 3 blade. Already killed a deer in Tennessee. Complete pass through. Best penetration Ive had since my wedding night!
🤣👍🏻
At what distances do you usually hunt, with that configuration of arrow and bow power. Thanks.
I love how take the time to help everyone out. I just got a Fed Bear Kodiac recurve and trying to figure out what the best settup is is not easy lol. Thank you for all your help
Back in the nineties I was shooting a 55 LB draw brackenbury recurve. What you were saying I find to be fact. The only difference in your set up was I used a heavier bow being I am 6' 1 1/2" tall and weigh 220LBS .As I was watching your video it dawned on me that Your system looks like a person could use ratio to proportion to set up their bow if one happens to use a different draw weight bow than you? I used a 160 grain broadhead on my arrows and canted my bow till the shelf made a perfect "V" with my bow tuned properly my arrow would jump in line with my eye after leaving the bow. This let me know I was going to hit where I was looking 95% of the time and the few times it didn't it was only a fraction off. You are the first person that I have seen that sets up a bow almost exactly as I use to. People that want to perfect their archery skill would be wise to follow your advice.
I'm new at it I have a 55# at 28" traditional bow ...I mean that's how it's labeled . I was trying to figure out what combo and now I have much better idea thank you very much and God bless👊👍✌️
Thank you Jeff , Can not wait to see you put those bows to work in the woods !
Last year I got a nice pass through on a buck using 53 lbs longbow@29 inch draw . Using 350 spine almost full length black Eagle outlaw arrows with 220 up front . This year on my 45 lbs bow I use black Eagle outlaw 500 spine cut to 31 inches 200 total up front. Hope for a pass through!!!!!
Awesome setups! Sounds like a boxer punching a heavy bag when it hits that target.
Always nice to hear from you jeff. When i get asked by new guys what CZcams channel to watch to learn from your #1
Cheers and good luck with the upcoming season
Man I really appreciate that!
Love your videos, Jeff! Learning a lot. Entering my first hunting season. Super excited!
Best of luck to you this season!
Good to see you back on the tube. Good luck to you and Ty!
Love you brother! We just got back from a shoot today had a blast with all the guys at the bowhunter challenge in Tennessee 👍🏻
Great video. I am curious if you've tried/are into wooden or bamboo arrows. I love my bamboo arrows. They fly very nice
I have about the same set up. Ended up with 340 spine, 400 upfront at total weight of 740.
Killer 😁👍🏻
Howdy Jeff, scenario question for ya, 51 pound longbow here, 615 grain arrow...350 upfront...use that arrow on deer and black bear, no issues. Now let's say you get drawn for an elk hunt...on the ground hunting...do you lessen your arrow weight to make 30 yard max shots a little easier, and take abit of a penetration minus....or do you keep the same arrow and now say 25 yards or bust? Thanks my friend. I can honestly say when I hear you say "absolutely perfect" I always crack a smile!
Well, for elk at 30 yards plus you’ll definitely need plenty of FOC for penetration and your 615’s sound perfect to me but you can do the same thing with a faster and flatter shooting 550gr setup like the Airstrike or Axis with around 275 up front, I’ve got some Airstrike 400’s with 120 gr Ethics and 200gr VPA’s flying really fast and flat out of a 50# recurve, definitely a killer Elk setup 👍🏻
I have gotten frustrated bare shaft tuning with a nocking point that was set too low, so that basically nothing was gonna fly. I used to set a temporary nock set about 1/8 of an inch high. I shifted to starting at 1/4 inch high and that seemed to greatly improve the starting arrow flight testing for up and down. Even if you shoot canted, you have to tune holding the bow straight up and down or you will get all kinds of false readings on arrow flight. Isn't it awesome when an arrow will dart with no fletching in a matched set up?
Absolutely! All of my bows typically require between 1/2” and 3/4” usually 5/8” above center is the magic spot and arrow diameter does affect the nock height needed for a good bareshaft tune as far as the up and down are concerned 👍🏻
Great content. Thank you. Looking for some of your advice.... I'm loving how the 7.3 grain in the gold tip 500 Red labeled hunter Is spitting out The full length 30" shaft with 300 grains up front.... Out of my 45lb pound recurve.... My problem is Why in the world did they stop at 30"😳?
I have 2 Additional bows that I'm trying to tune with them but I find that the 30" shaft is not quite long enough To work with my other 2 bows. So my questions is What arrow would you recommend That has the same or lighter grains per inch that will accept the standard Gold tip100gr brass inserts since I have a large Quantity of them?
Thank you in advance. I always appreciate all your videos.
The best for the money in a 7.3gpi is the gold tip warrior and hunter xt , the hunter pros and black labels are the same just a bit more expensive 👍🏻
Another good one jeff.
Thanks Mike!
Can you do a video on how far you can push the front weight of an arrow? Kind of showing when too much is too much…Really what you’re looking for.
Yes sir, I’ve actually experimented with that and what I’ve found is that once the FOC becomes too heavy for the particular shaft and they’re all different natured even in the exact same spine and length they start kicking tail high and even with feathers tend to dive quickly and usually that’s around 350-400 grains.
I am shooting a Ogema long bow at 46 pounds draw length is 28 inches. What shaft size should I shoot? I want 100 grain insert and a 175 VPA Broadhead… what is a good heavy arrow that I can shoot from it. I want to cut my arrows about 29 1/2 inches.
I’d say a 400 and that’ll allow you to add point weight if you need to, you’re right on the borderline of being able to shoot 500’s but if nothing else I’d go with a 400 and cut it 30” with 275 up front, I’m not exactly sure how center shot the Omega is and that’s got a lot to do with it also.
I call the guy that made my bow and he said it is center shot
@@cavincastleberry8866 okay you can probably still go with 500’s at 29.5” if it’s cut to center and not past center I think they’ll be good, you might want to order a bare shaft test kit from 3rivers just to play with before ordering arrows that’s what I would do just to be sure they come with everything you need to figure it out then you’ll know!
Which cutting diameter VPA 3 blade are you shooting, 1 1/8 or 1 1/4. Im currently shooting a bear grizzly recurve 45# at 28. Im pulling 43#, and using black eagle vintage 500 shafts, simmons 190 tree sharks and factory inserts. The black eagles seem stiffer then other brands and measure 34 inch’s before cutting, so I may add a 100 brass insert along with the 190-200 gr head because I have plenty of room to cut.
1 1/4”
That was my 1st (real) bow in 1977 8th grader. Shot that thing to death..
Still shooting traditional..very satisfying..moved to Sky Trophy long bow in 93 still going strong.
Sorry,when i read Bear Grizzly Recurve it brought back A Lot of good memories. Hope you have good times with yours.
Oh yeah ! use a bow stringer I'd never heard of one when I was a kid and eventually I guess I twisted a limb. Self taught also and still learning 45 years later..
New to traditional archery world transitioning from compound bow hunting. Got me a Mandarin Duck Black Hunter Longbow 28 draw 40lb draw weight. What hunting arrow setup would you run?
What kind of target are you shooting ? I’m new to trad archery , and would like to shoot at a deer , but need a bigger backstop.
What about easton axis long Range? 7,4 gpi in spin 400 and 4,2mm inside diameter
I love your videos. I’m shooting a Hoyt satori 47lb @26” draw. I’m looking for an arrow setup with great penetration and descent speed for deer and bear what would you recommend? Thanks again for your videos they are the best
With a Satori I’d definitely go with a 400 loaded up on front at least around 275gr total because they’re true center shot especially without the spacers 👍🏻
Will the blackout x3 hinter 340 grain with the bear broadheads at 250 grain front work on a 45# bear montana bow work?
Probably gonna be too stiff unless they’re full length, and a lot depends on your draw length , even a 400 spine cut down below around 29” will be pretty stiff for that bow.
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 30" draw. The arrows are cut to 31".So around 53# draw total. It's for hunting. The guy at my archery store said 340 spine with 250 grain broadhead would be perfect. But your opinion helps too. So you would suggest a 400 grain with 250 grain broadhead?
@@chadcowman6293 all you can do to know for sure is skin one and bare shaft test it with a field point to see and it might be fine, you can always bump up the point weight a little more if it impacts tail right but that’s the only way to know for sure unless they’re flying the broadhead really good at like 30 yards, it takes that much distance to really watch what the flight looks like and you can do that if you don’t want to cut the feathers off.
What happens is primerely the high FOC. With 25+% my arrows always fly good
Absolutely
What arrow setup would you suggest for a 42# long bow ? Acadian Woods “Tree Stick”
Wayne I shoot a 40lb @ 28in Old Mountain Mesa. I'm pulling 29 so probably 42-43 lbs. I shoot the exact same arrow & weight up front as Jeff except mine is cut to 30.25 inches & they shoot like a lazer😁
What length feathers work for foc arrows?
Do you use right or left wing fletching? Does it matter which one to use?
I use left, the only difference is which way your string is twisted and even if they’re different it’s not critical but I don’t see any difference in flight at all because the arrow isn’t spinning until it leaves the bow anyway 👍🏻
I shoot 48#@28 inch but my draw is 26.5 whats a rough arrow setup to start with
Thanks brother you’ll want to run a 500 spine cut around 28.5” with 100gr inserts 👍🏻
What is the target you are shooting?
How well do the smaller diameter stay in your quiver or did you have to modify it?
You do have to modify a little with selway but now I believe they’re offering small diameter options like Big Jim’s
@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 ok thanks I'll have to look up how to do it
Dear Jeff!
Some time ago you wrote that to your low 40 # bow you use 600 spine with 70 grain insert and 150 grains broadhead. Is it the same like 100 grain insert och 125 broadhead? I know that 100 gr insert is a bit longer than 70. What is your opinion on this?
Thank you for your help!
Greetings Filip
Yes sir it’s pretty much the same, the longer inserts just seem to strengthen the shaft a little as far as hard impact is concerned that’s why I really like the Victory Shok outserts, they’ve got a longer post and actually protect the arrow tip as well they’re a great option.
@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 thank you for the answer, sir!
Excuse me, but an arrow with a spine of 600 and a forward weight of 225 grains isn't very soft on you? Thanks.
@@manuelgonzalezzambrano1989
Hi Manuel!
I thought I hade exactly the same draw as Jeff so I cut my arrows at my shortest possible length and this weight was to much. Att the end I end up with 100 grain insert and only 70 grain field point. Then I had to go for 500 spine and 225 - 250 grain fram. These arrows are bit longer than I would like to but as I said 600 was too weak for my 40# bow with 225 fram.
Good luck!
I shot split for many years and never bare shafted. I switched to 3 under and tried bare shafting this year. I have gotten prefect arrow flight out of these shafts out to 30 yards. Decided I wanted to switch back to split and am having a heck of a time finding the correct nock height. I've gone from 1/8" to 3/4" and it always flies nock high and into the dirt past 15 yards. I've tried a split finger tab and now a glove and am getting the same results. I don't think I'm pinching the nock but I could be wrong. I also feel I have a fairly consistent release. Any ideas on what could be happening?
Yes sir and this is an all too common problem with lots of people and from what I can determine it’s in the tiller of the bow itself, sometimes the bow is just not tillered for split meaning it’s closer to even than positive which is perfect for three under but not split, sometimes you can get certain arrows with higher FOC to tune and fly well, I’ve found that in that situation the best fix is to do the old toothpick under the rest trick to elevate the rest a little 👍🏻
@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 I spent the afternoon trying to figure it out. I tried the toothpick with no luck and also a small piece of furniture pad to raise it to over a 1/4 of an inch also with no luck. The tiller measurements of this bow are 7 3/8" for the top limb and 7 1/2", so that's a negative tiller, right? Could that be the problem? Not sure if this matters because I had gotten great flight out of them with 3 under but I am shooting full length Easton Gamegetter 340s with roughly 205 grains up front (including insert) and a total of around 610 grains. 60lb black hunter longbow with a 26in draw length. Thank you for taking the time to get back to me, I really appreciate it.
@@ZombieOnaStick21 yep that’s the issue for sure, it’s just gonna have to be a three under bow lol unless you can just run the nock high enough to get decent flight with feathers on split but I’d just shoot it three under brother 👍🏻
@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 I'll give it another shot with split tomorrow but I'll probably run it 3 under. I'd rather have the good arrow flight. Just been hard for me to get used to 3 under trajectory after shooting split for so long. But I'll get it. Thanks again and good luck this season.
What are the two bows are you using in this video?
Thanks one’s a Carbon Vapor longbow and the other is a Ghost C2 recurve they’re custom bows we used to build 👍🏻
@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 do you still make them and what is the cost?
@@CliffBailey53 we don’t but I’ve got a couple special ones that I kept for myself lol let me know if you need any information on them thanks!
Jeff do you still build 1 peace bows ? I'm not seeing your website anymore....
No sir we closed the shop and aren’t building any longer for serious health risks I’m only doing instructional videos now.
What will happen if my inserts is heavier than the broadheads?
It won’t hurt anything but the longer the inserts are the more they will stiffen the spine of the shaft.
@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 I'm melting lead and casting them like the insert shape they have more mace then the brass
What recurve are you shooting love the look
Instinctive Addiction Archery Ghost C2 58”, there was actually one on Big Jim’s website yesterday!
Hey Jeff what kind of quivers are those...thanks
Selway 👍🏻
@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 thank you
Hey Jeff, how are you buddy? Hey I don't have an email address for you so I hope you find this here. I need your advice on something. Right after I got my bow from you I bought a Sellway Bow Quiver for it. It came and I tried to mount it on my bow, and I ordered the recurve model, but it would not fit. I could not mount the quiver any closer than about 6 to 8 inches from the fadeout of the riser and the limbs. The first time I drew the bow with that on there it was definately harder to draw. If I tried to force the thing down the limbs closer to the riser, the rubber parts would just come apart. So this just wasn't going to work and I returned it. Then I bought a "Big Jim's Bow Company" quiver with about the same results. So at that point I just gave up on using a bow quiver at all. Then I came across Bob Lee Bow Company's website. Bob Lee was the guy who owned Wing Archery many years ago and in fact I have two of his bows I bought in the early 70's. Anyhow, they sell a Great Northern Bow Quiver and a mounting system that uses the limb bolts to attach the quiver to the riser. I thought this would be the perfect quiver as it mounts to the riser and not the limbs. So I ordered one and asked when I ordered it if they thought it would work with my bow. Bob Lee Bows have two bolts per limb, whereas mine only has one bolt per limb. In my first communication with them they thought it should work just fine. But this morning I got an email from them saying that:
“Unfortunately, we are flying blind on how the Quick Mount Great Northern will perform on your Instinctive Addiction Archery longbow, and as such, cannot offer much input on the subject. Have you spoken to the bowyer, and/or to Great Northern about this? They would no doubt be able to help. We are reluctant to ship but we will do so with your blessing.”
I’m at a point right now where I feel like if this quiver mounting setup won’t work I will just hunt witht my bow in my left hand and an arrow in my right hand. I probably will only get one shot anyhow if I do run onto and elk, but these quivers that mount to the limbs just aren’t working out for me. Here is the link to Bob Lee Bows company video where they show how this quiver mounts to the bow. If you wouldn’t mind watching it and letting me know what you think, I sure would appreciate it. Here is a link to the video on their website that shows the mountin of one of these quivers to their bow.
bobleebows.com/install-quiver-bob-lee-bow/
Thanks Jeff and I’m sorry to put this in the comment section of your video but don’t know any other way of getting touch with you via a message of some kind. Thanks again Jeff, and take care of yourself.
Jim
Hello Jim, yes sir the great northern bolt on quivers work just fine and we’ve ran selway slide on recurve quivers on all the Carbon Vapor longbow limbs because they’re usually around 1 3/8” wide limbs finished but anyway the bolt on is a great option 👍🏻
@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 Thanks Jeff I appreciate the help. I emailed them back and told them to go ahead and ship it to me. Thanks again pal.
Jim
Buy a back quiver. Problem solved 😃
I got the Bob Lee quiver and it works PERFECT!@@jackmasters9953
Last i checked it was impossible to find airstrikes. Mabe that's changed.
Lancaster usually has them.
What kind of recurve is it
@@user-di3ow4qv9z it’s a custom bow we built actually, it’s one of the C2 Ghost double carbon 58” recurves that we used to manufacture 👍🏻