Thomas Adès masterclass: Ariel Lanyi plays Ravel La valse

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  • čas přidán 5. 07. 2015
  • www.ariellanyi.com/blog
    If in a game of word association I say “Thomas Adès” you are likely to respond “composer,” or perhaps “conductor,” which is how we tend to think about Thomas Adès, forgetting what a great pianist and teacher he is. Listen to this fantastic lesson and to the reckless virtuosity with which he plays some of the trickiest passages of what is by no means an easy piece. Incidentally, I replaced someone in this masterclass, and when I walked up to T.A. he had no idea what I was going to play. You may want to skip my performance of the piece and go directly to the lesson, at 13:30. You can find a better performance of La valse, in part owing to this lesson, at • Ariel Lanyi plays Rave... .
    And here is Ravel's other masterpiece, Gaspard de la nuit, played at a recital in London: • Ariel Lanyi plays Rave...
    Recorded at the Jerusalem Music Center.
    La valse: 00:10
    Lesson: 13:30
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Komentáře • 71

  • @m.a.3322
    @m.a.3322 Před 7 lety +10

    15:45 loving that sung glissando mimicking the orchestra 😂😂😂

  • @KinkyLettuce
    @KinkyLettuce Před 7 lety +7

    the musicality of Ades is incredible

  • @jegsynes
    @jegsynes Před 9 lety +1

    Thank you Ariel for sharing this very interesting, wonderful and great master class, I enjoyed to listen and learned about what Thomas Adès tells and explains about Ravel's La Valse.
    I now understand this piece much better than ever before. The way he explains is almost "dancing with your (musical) mind"!

  • @pathounais5988
    @pathounais5988 Před 2 lety

    Thomas Adès vraiment extraordinaire de talent, de poésie, de psychologie généreuse..... un Monsieur... et Ariel super aussi bien évidemment. Un moment de pur bonheur. Merci.

  • @chtellez
    @chtellez Před 3 lety +1

    Impressive playing and a great masterclass!

  • @samferguson9171
    @samferguson9171 Před 6 lety +19

    ades' feel for the music is amazing. "very dangerous modulation" - he feels the shit!

    • @spertrand
      @spertrand Před 4 lety +1

      "Can the A major be a little less real"

    • @m.a.3322
      @m.a.3322 Před 4 lety +1

      @@spertrand he was right though, the kid's approach was too direct for that phrase

    • @spertrand
      @spertrand Před 4 lety +1

      @@m.a.3322 For sure. It's a big part of the piece and his critique - the moments when something coheres out of the whirlwind.

    • @aviuscomposer2605
      @aviuscomposer2605 Před 3 lety

      ​@@spertrand he's definitely the new Britten in every single way!

    • @robertbradymusic
      @robertbradymusic Před 3 lety +1

      @@aviuscomposer2605 😂
      I see you coming up in all these Adès videos!

  • @wagnerpolveiro7176
    @wagnerpolveiro7176 Před 9 lety +13

    A great master class, no doubt, Ariel. Your interpretation is very good, your music sound great, but of course there is always a new way to see, to feel, to understand a composition, as the Maestro Thomas Adès showed with his explanation. Anyway, congratulations, Ariel, you are amazing.

  • @ras5999
    @ras5999 Před 6 lety

    Bravo Ariel! What a Masterclass!I think You got to the end really very good interpretation .Thomas Adés is one of my favortites Composer he is really cool.Great!

  • @maurorossi7803
    @maurorossi7803 Před 8 lety

    Woonderful! Thank you very much for sharing!

  • @homepianistaminako9597

    Sounds much more like orchestra I love it. Feels mystique! He is an
    amazing quick learner.

  • @djcowling
    @djcowling Před 8 lety +4

    The Strauss waltz mentioned at 49.35 is 'Tausend und eine Nacht', op. 364. czcams.com/video/rKK-qnZ1HIA/video.html -The part he mentions specifically occurs around 4 mins and 7 mins in the linked video. Ades is not only a brilliant composer but an inspiring thinker and performer

  • @MoniqueChiron
    @MoniqueChiron Před 9 lety +8

    Wow je trouvais votre interprétation très bonne... mais l'œil du maître ne laisse rien au hasard !! Lol !!! :D Très intéressant. J'ai écouté une partie et finirai plus tard... Je ne suis pas très douée en anglais... ;) Bonne continuation de travail sur cette belle valse de Ravel. Amitié et merci du partage Ariel.

    • @aviuscomposer2605
      @aviuscomposer2605 Před 3 lety

      What's all this shite? You chewing pins boy you are making gobble dee gook up you daft farthin yer!

  • @300076379
    @300076379 Před 8 lety

    thanks for sharing!

  • @guarrho
    @guarrho Před 2 lety

    Have a think about it

  • @KenKen3593
    @KenKen3593 Před 7 lety +1

    "We see something. You see the whole thing: Vienna." I could confuse that for Woolf.

  • @marcio3426
    @marcio3426 Před 4 lety

    Ariel, would you share with us the anotations Mr. Thomas did on the partiture? Would be amazing!

    • @ArielLanyi
      @ArielLanyi  Před 4 lety

      I'm sorry, this masterclass took place quite a few years ago and I no longer have the notes.

  • @aoyangli311
    @aoyangli311 Před 6 lety +1

    Cloud you please tell me where you find the scores? I can't find this version

    • @ArielLanyi
      @ArielLanyi  Před 6 lety +1

      All one-piano versions of La valse are to some degree arranged and adjusted by the performers, usually by keeping an eye on the orchestral version.

    • @aoyangli311
      @aoyangli311 Před 6 lety

      Ariel Lanyi Thank you for your reply. I saw the scores, it's difficult to play with orchestra part together. Thank you for your share:-)

  • @mares3841
    @mares3841 Před 2 lety

    💛

  • @stevehaas9515
    @stevehaas9515 Před 3 lety

    Reminds me of James Booker.

  • @lucasvanvlierberghe3641

    I think Thomas tries to explain to the student that it's not a real ('strict') waltz. It's Ravel's way of humor and at the end of the piece he kills the waltz anyway.

  • @playmiaow
    @playmiaow Před 7 měsíci

    22:40
    24:50

  • @playmiaow
    @playmiaow Před 7 měsíci

    26:55

  • @jcholroyd5598
    @jcholroyd5598 Před 4 lety +1

    Did he fight in Vietnam?

  • @user-jq5ce9de7t
    @user-jq5ce9de7t Před 9 lety +1

    Отличная техника исполнения! жаль, что я первый, кто оставляет свои комментарии на русском. либо наши только шансон понимают на пяти аккордах, либо их вообще ничем не проймешь, даже такой игрой...

    • @alex_evstyugov
      @alex_evstyugov Před 5 lety +1

      That, or maybe some people are actually fluent in more than one language.

  • @AidanMmusic96
    @AidanMmusic96 Před 8 lety +2

    Is Ades sight-reading this? (Wouldn't surprise me!)

    • @ArielLanyi
      @ArielLanyi  Před 8 lety +11

      +Aidan6496 He absolutely is! He may have played years and years ago, but he had no idea what piece I was bringing to this lesson, having just stepped into the breach for someone who couldn't make it.

    • @AidanMmusic96
      @AidanMmusic96 Před 8 lety +1

      +Ariel Lanyi Jaw. On. Floor. I'd love to be conducted by him in my life too - I played his Asyla last year and he was in the audience - that was scary enough!

    • @aviuscomposer2605
      @aviuscomposer2605 Před 3 lety +1

      He is the new Benjamin Britten you know!

  • @johnholroyd3864
    @johnholroyd3864 Před 7 lety +1

    Thomas Ades is a working class hero done good, coming from all that hardship, just goes to show you you can overcome all barriers!

    • @Beach_comber
      @Beach_comber Před 7 lety +3

      Working class? You must be confusing him with someone else. Mark-Anthony Turnage perhaps?

    • @aviuscomposer2605
      @aviuscomposer2605 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Beach_comber I think he grew up on a council estate in Dagenham, so he might be working class, not many rich people there!

    • @Beach_comber
      @Beach_comber Před 3 lety +1

      @@aviuscomposer2605 No, he grew up in Hampstead, an expensive part of north London. His mother is an art historian who had a successful academic career; his father is a poet and translator.

  • @aviuscomposer2605
    @aviuscomposer2605 Před 3 lety

    Working class hero this boy Ades, from nothing and doing all this!
    Him and D H lawrence are one!

    • @aviuscomposer2605
      @aviuscomposer2605 Před 3 lety

      Apparently he does not come from Dagenham and is not self taught!

  • @henrylee7995
    @henrylee7995 Před 4 lety +3

    For everyone praising him for this performance sayin he has such amazing musicality, the ridiculous amount of rubato that he used shows quite the opposite. He had ok colors throughout and some decent phrasing, but the rubato was absolutely terrible it ruins the entire point of the piece. There is no consistent pulse when he plays this piece which is an essential for waltz or any dance. People with good musicianship don’t use excessive rubato, they use tone,color, phrasing, rythmic vitality, ect to really express the music. Not wasteful fluctuations of the tempo

    • @marcioqueiroz225
      @marcioqueiroz225 Před 4 lety

      You are right, but it's a masterclass, exactly to discuss this. Pay attention.

    • @aviuscomposer2605
      @aviuscomposer2605 Před 3 lety

      @@marcioqueiroz225 and he overlooks all the Benjamin Britten spirit there, it's all over him!

    • @marcioqueiroz225
      @marcioqueiroz225 Před 3 lety

      @@aviuscomposer2605 He was a boy when Ravel right this valse.

  • @shootayibyukhrabaytak674
    @shootayibyukhrabaytak674 Před 4 lety +3

    Too many words..............the kids playing is flabby..........yes too much meaningless rubato that stops the piece from having having any excitement..........it needs pulse to be exciting - it's not exciting.........

    • @jcholroyd5598
      @jcholroyd5598 Před 4 lety +3

      Really?
      Well Ades is making a good living composing, conducting and playing - we have not heard any of your music Shootayib and with a daft name like that - it is unlikely we ever will!

    • @aviuscomposer2605
      @aviuscomposer2605 Před 3 lety

      @@jcholroyd5598 he's definitely the new Britten in every single way!

  • @johnholroyd3864
    @johnholroyd3864 Před 7 lety +3

    Utter crap!

    • @vcupiano
      @vcupiano Před 6 lety +4

      John Holroyd the video quality? I know it could be better right? Amazing piece of music transcribed for piano though, so difficult to pull off well on the keyboard.

    • @aviuscomposer2605
      @aviuscomposer2605 Před 3 lety +1

      @@vcupiano The video quality is very poor he means! You get the Benjamin Britten vibe though from Ades!

    • @aviuscomposer2605
      @aviuscomposer2605 Před 3 lety

      @@vcupiano definitely the video quality he means!

    • @ViceroyoftheDiptera
      @ViceroyoftheDiptera Před 3 lety

      I assume you're describing yourself, because it doesn't apply to anything in the video

    • @aviuscomposer2605
      @aviuscomposer2605 Před 3 lety

      @@ViceroyoftheDiptera the quality of the video and audio - not Mr. Ades working!
      They should have filmed this better is what I mean!