Can body armor stop a 50 CAL? Could You survive if it did?
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- čas přidán 4. 06. 2024
- I've always wondered if body armor could stop a 50 cal, or how many plates would be required. The more interesting question was could you survive the shot even if the plates stopped it. Today on Garand Thumb science we put this all to the test. Stay tuned.
00:00 Can Body Armor Stop A 50 CAL?
01:36 Experiment setup
04:14 50 Cal vs 1 Armor Plate
08:04 50 Cal vs 6 Armor Plates
10:12 50 Cal vs 3 Armor plates
11:30 RAUFOSS 50 CAL vs Armor
13:23 EXPERIMENT CONCLUSIONS
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real talk 11:40 hollyyyy sheeeeeeshhh
Hey, no spoilers. We haven't gotten there yet.
Flannel Daddy
edwin sarkissian had safe life build him a 50 cal vest
Hey home boy, those asshats are back in your comment section posing as you give out "prizes". I did my civic duty and called them a le figget. I recommend yall do the same.
Collaboration with The Slow mo Guys Gav and Dan when?
Charlie is just the best. "Snorin' Dora Institute"; "Talk is cheap, Ammunition is what, Charlie?" - "Provided by Norma"; "..., because even when bodies are done, I reuse them"; all his off the cuff quips are just so completely unhinged.
I can hardly keep a straight face. it’s so hard to hold it together
@@GarandThumb we request a blooper reel at the end like in Jackie Chan movies :))
@@GarandThumb this channel got better when you quit GAF & started doing the "science" angle.
@@GarandThumb I don't know how you do!! lol
"He didn't need that one"
Please make sure Charlie is not left unattended around the ballistics dummies, for the safety of the dummies.
He would 100% ask for consent, and more than likely respond on their behalf.
Charlie … we don’t eat ballistic gel and we certainly don’t do THAT to it. Not in public
@@zx45zx Charlie: “Silence is acquiescence”
those dummies have all given consent
As he just casually removes a rib. Yup thats an optional bone…
I feel like the question isn't COULD you survive a .50 wearing body armor...but after seeing what a 5.56 does to the body even when stopped by plates, the question becomes would you WANT to?
THIS.
What have you done that is worthy of being shot by a .50 cal is the right question to ask lol.
Probably higher chances of survival than being blown into smithereens. Even if you had 0% of survival at least you still have a body than can be identified by teammates and a corpse to present in a funeral.
@@windshieldwasher6919 IS.
@@MaskedMazter ELON MUSK
I get the curiosity over questions like this, but my feelings are that if I need any kind of armor to defeat a .50 bmg then I have made all the wrong choices in all the worst ways.
It's not necessarily about stopping the bullet. Even if the armor stops the bullet, the impact will likely disable or kill you as that kinetic force is transferred through the armor and into your chest (which houses many vital organs). The closest comparison I can make (and it's an imperfect one) is getting whacked in the chest with a sledgehammer (please don't go try this to see what it feels like). Force transferring through the body like this can cause all sorts of injuries, including internal bleeding from ruptured blood vessels, damaged organs and broken bones. Your initial theory is on the right path. If you're getting shot at by a .50 then you've may have made some questionable decisions and/or had awful luck and are almost certainly about to experience a world of hurt.
Sometimes the choices are made for you.
@@Defx10 And if one of those choices is one of those slugs, there's NO hope at all --- of living...
@@aesirgaming1014 it's certainly more survivable than letting the round actually enter. Yeah, you still likely aren't going to survive and it will either way cause significant damage, but at least theres a chance. It will be absolute hell even if you survive, but if you survive and are able to get medical attention you may end up going on to live a decent life with your family. That's worth the risk of the extra painful death to me if it means a chance at living to see my family again.
I think here if you are inside a main battle tank, then your armor has a good chance of keeping you alive...or suppose you shoot a naval destroyer with a .50 bmg, you get my point. Yes, those are not body armor, but that is not a body bullet either. A better test would be to see if it can stop vehicular armor as in armored cars as well as a dummy wearing body armor inside it.
Kentucky Ballistics has entered the chat 💬
you gonna stick a thumb in that dummy? It might save him
I don’t think a thumb would help here…
literally
you KNOW this thing would have blown up like the death star if you shot it, right? 50 cal. doesn't like you, specifically.
Enter the twilight zone
“I was a doctor in NJ once, but I’m not allowed to practice anymore”
“If you had stopped being so grabby you would be”
13:30 "Oh don't be such a baby. Ribs grow back!"
“Archimedes, no!”
Medic is bad doctor!
You would need the ridgidness of something exceptional for body armor and then about 10 foot of some crazy absorbative foam or material to absorb that absolutely terrifying energy
Or a way to redirect that energy as it travels through the armor
High hardness steel backed by reactive ceramics and then a crapton of trauma padding so that it doesn't just collapse your thoracic cavity anyways.
Or break your neck
a (1) (one) (a single) (one) nokia
Charlie using the tactical rake to judge if the dummy was dead or not had me rolling 💀💀💀
Lmaoo
Pulling the rib out and saying, “he didn’t need that one” got me NGL.
I would say that he went "in depth" for that one.
In Warzone the satchel holds 8 but your actual armor is only 3 plates. The satchel is essentially a backpack for armor but you can only utilize 3 max.
You guys being so professional and so good at imitating the awkwardness of amateur videos really "blows" my mind 😊😇
Absolutely agree
"Yeah he's fine"
*Charlie removes rib*
"He didn't need that one" 🤣🤣🤣
Ribs grow back
no zhey don't
It's one of the spare ones
Well, since he is a man, one was already taken for the woman.
Plant that and see if a girl grows…
can i just say i still LOVE the garand thumb "science" intro clip. its a hilarious vibe and it makes me smile every time. lol
Since the Raufoss is norwegian, I'm glad to inform that it acutally translates to "Ass-waterfall" in english :)
Charlie is a treasure. We need to clone him for future generations
Ehm..rather not:)
Hell yes lmao love him
L0ol
I think the camera guy IS cloned from Charles
I thought the camera guy was his clone
Mike and Charlie have such a unique and enchanting chemistry, I swear it has to frustrate other gun channels because it's so... Intangible but very present at the same time.
Love you guys, keep doing what you're doing, I can't get enough.
It’s what keeps my attention through the whole video, few gun channels can do that for me.
I get the impression charlie was.just cutting up behind the scenes so much Mike just wrnt fuck it, lets film that too.
That’s what you get with such brilliant doctors as Mike and Charlie!
Pretty sure the dude's name is Micah, not Mike.
5:22
Ok, you got me, I HOWLED XD
You guys popped up via Reccomended, and I have to say it's both a hoot and mesmerising at the same time! Well done!
"If you're not fit, you're going to die"
Words that have melted into my brain over the past 3 months. Thanks for the tough love Mike. Lost 30 pounds so far and look better than I ever have. 229 3 months ago to 198 this morning. More to come! 💪 keep up the videos brother!
People underestimate one's ability to survive physical traumas if they are in top shape. If their body is fighting excess weight, high BP, bum knee, etc. they won't be able to take an injury like an MMA fighter, per se. Body can't take a hit and recover if it already has several things it's trying to uphold prior to that.
@@a-a-rondavis9438 I'm law enforcement. At the academy 6 years ago I weighed 185 but that was more just weight loss. Now I'm strength training as well as eating clean. This is by far the strongest iv been since high school. I was never to heavy to not do my job, I work in a suburb city of a large metropolitan area. But I was done with the excuses. And I needed to be better. And one night, I heard Mike say this on one of his urban survival videos and that is what flipped the switch. Now I get grumpy on my 2 rest days per week lol progress my man!
Way to go man, way to go !🤘
Way to go man! Doing a similar journey now with my significant other, which is a great help. Step by step, day by day i'm getting back into that top shape i was when 9/11 happened. I fear the world is close to the same brink again... Stay frosty!
Be fatphobic. You'll live longer
Charlie deserves an award for entertainment value! He deserves his own silver press play award at least!
He deserves his own personal dummie
@@80sonly Dummies can't own dummies, dummy...o wait! NOOOOOOO!
Some steel body armor might stop a .50 BMG. But I think the blunt force trauma from it would seriously injury you to the point that if you didn't die you'd probably wish you had.
Maybe with some ridiculous amount of padding it wouldn't be that bad
@@slavicemperor8279 Maybe a mix of multiple ceramic plates backed by steel with a good amount of padding and kevlar. But the shear force of being hit by one of those will probably crack or break ribs.
I feel like you would get all your ribs broken, at least.
I’ve shot through 2” iron with a Hornady 750gr @ 150yds. Idk how that equates to steel but it blew right through the iron like nothing.
@@chadgardnerdds3197 Think of the Ar500 steel target silhouettes. They aren't super thick and they can take a .50 BMG.
Finally subbed, ive enjoyed so many videos and always forgotten. You guys are the best.
This was really cool, thanks guys. I also think maybe brick walls, lots of dirt, dirt walls/dried mud walls (like the ones in afghanistan), trees, sheet metal & other types of metal, drywall, wood doors, car doors, tile, and woods of increased thickness could be tried next to really go in depth. Or other things we run into on a daily basis in our lives.
I'm assuming a couch or a fridge wouldn't be temporary cover but you never know. Sometimes you can only do what you can with what you've got, or just decide you have no reasonable cover and you face it head on while moving. Shoot, move, communicate type of stuff. Tough decisions you make but you have to make them based off of what you know with the situation around you.
Some forms of "cover" seem to only stop so many rounds (such as with the .50 cal) and it's pertinent for you to move and change position frequently if hiding behind that particular form of cover that could crumble quickly after a few rounds.
I'm also curious how risky it is to have your head too close to the surface level of dirt (could be tested with a target backer like in this video), if being shot at and the round passes through the ground at a superficial level. Perhaps you're in the process of making that video or those videos though. Thanks again, this was really good work. I look forward to whats next
Body armor can stop a tank round bro. You just gotta back way up.
Agreed! Take enough steps and you can survive a nuke
I mean technically you aren't wrong. I saw a dude who took a 125mm HE round from a T-72 to the chest at around 3km. It was apparently a dud (or he just wasn't solid enough to set it off) but it smacked him square in the chest. Shattered his plate, utterly crushed his ribs and turned his insides into mashed potato but didn't actually penetrate him.
I mean if the HE had gone off he'd be giblets and I'm sure if it was a APFSDS it would have gone through him and kept going. But as it stand his armor "technically" did stop a tank round.
@@liquidacid1983 where tf did you see this?
@@mr.randomperson9900 just trust him bro
@@mr.randomperson9900 Iraq. Who the fuck else would be using cheap Russian shit from the 70s
You guys need to get those pressure sensitive stickers MythBusters used to use during testing. The ones with the internal vial that ruptures. Would love to see the actual number of foot lbs a certain round transfers through body armor onto your chest.
I thought of this during the video too.
Deadliest Warrior used them too… “red means dead”
when goo starts coming out of the dummys nose its not because its got a cold... its because its full
Let me summarize the video: "L internal organs"
This is definitely a concern to me. I presume it is killing you. But at least you are looking good and not a messy bloody corpse.
“Awwww man these are new Costco pants” 😂😂
Love you guys...keep up the great work!
Charlie really has some one line bangers in this one 👏👍👌
OMG yes he did!!!
Something about the character Charlie plays on dr.gt's talk show makes me think he's probably a good bit smarter than most of us think we are, irl
@@fetidcreeper 100% dude is probably a natural weapon in real life lolol
@@scubapsa 🤣
I barely noticed Charlie’s Walkers have Peltors written on them in sharpie lol 😂
the longer you look at Charlie’s kit the worse it becomes
Lmao, I saw that and was like what, did I just see that
@@GarandThumb I appreciate the tactical Altoids tin
@@GarandThumb That sounds like jealousy that Charlie has superior drip.
@@jimmypop777 when your on a gov sanctioned terror mission of struggle snuggling and pilaging you gotta have fresh breath.
The damage done by that last shot is both amazing and terrifying.
How have I never seen your channel with all the gun stuff I watch.... Love the vids.
Charlie’s commentary is always top notch 👍🏻 great video
the small random edits like the godzilla bit and charlies shenanigans in this video were just hysterical. really adds a ton of entertainment value. more of this please =)
That energy the 50 produces is unreal
Agreed
It’s a war crime
Not compared to the cannonball
This was the most enjoyable video ever , thank you boys 🤙🏼
"well I had a father for at least 4 years," wow cut deep
Charlie is hysterical. His timing is amazing, and his remarks are delivered perfectly. Too damned funny.
"I have a good question now though."
"Once in college but I don't remember his name."
That comment was so great, just perfect timing and delivery. I can't believe nobody else has mentioned it..
"Well if you stopped being so grabby" made me lol
New subscriber. Brilliant video 💪🏻🏴
Sick, sick shot on the slo-mo incendiary
I desire to be more like Charlie after every video. Absolute Chad one liners.
Mike needs to put up a t shirt on his store that just says "more like charlie" or "be more like charlie"..... some shit like that. They'll figure out which ones funnier I'm sure.
Simply become a schizophrenic, you’ll be just like him!
@@nsob8897 what would Charlie do?
@@noahbouchard5155 I approve..haha
That blowfish meme gets me EVERY FREAKING TIME 😭
THE ENERGY IN THIS VIDEO WAS FANTASTIC. Nice introduction
Man that Raufoss impact was so fkn cool
What I've learned - don't catch a 50 Cal...
"Can a boyfriend stop a .50 BMG? Let's find out!"
wait what?!
@@cilla2614 demolition ranch.
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Charlie is awesome! Every video he absolutely cracks me up. The banter and b.s. he adds to each video is pure dynamite!
Why is nobody talking about 9:28 🤣🤣🤣
“I have a good question though”
*”ONCE IN COLLEGE BUT I DON’T REMEMBER HIS NAME”*
Your sense of humor is refreshing. Wouldn't want to experience the impact of a 50 cal. even if the body armor stopped the round. As one person stated in an earlier comment, "the condition of one's life wouldn't be something one would want to live with even if one survived the concussion/impact". All you've got to do is observe the compression that the dummy experienced to know that there would be severe damage to various organs.
the real question is whether or not you'd want to survive to see the results
I Do some quick math for you:
50 cal enegry is around 18.000 J.
Armor can eat lets say 10.000 J.
Your upper ribs cab broke under 600-800J.(Mike Tyson can punch you by 1600J)
And lower ones under 400J.
So what is better?Slow or fast dead....
@@joe125ful That's not how that works. The energy of the bullet is roughly the same (lower actually) than the energy transferred to the shoulder of the shooter. Every action has equal and opposite reaction bla bla bla. However the effects are very different. It depends on how large the impact area is as well as the time of the energy transfer. It's very difficult to asses how much the plates will spread the impact over a larger area (depends on how much deformation they have) as well as how much they spread it out time wise. A push won't break your ribs, a hit will.
@@sardoniclaugh9646 Ofcourse but numbers are real what i write and if final energy If its 8k J is still deadly for you,just look on that slow mo in 10:24 you can clearly see broken ribs and they can pierce heart or lungs when armor push so hard to other organs.
10k J is like crushing in 90km on scooter to wall for example.
Just go for some examples and you can imagine how much is that 8-10K J.
@@joe125ful Dude please do not bring physics into this, it's CLEARLY not your area of expertise. A scooter crashing into a wall is multiple orders of magnitude more energy than a bullet. I can do the math if you want but suffice to say if a scooter hits you at 90 km/h (which is something like 50 mph in freedom units) you're going to fly through the air like a ping pong ball. If a .50 cal hits you even if you absorb all it's energy it will barely tip you over, in fact if you brace against it you won't even do that. Bullets do not carry a lot of energy. They cannot. If shot from a conventional rifle the same energy is also transferred to the shooter via the butt stock, if it's too much the shooter's shoulder will also break. That's why past a certain caliber recoilless rifles are used. Now don't get me wrong a .50 packs a punch. But it's not some ungodly force and if it's spread out over a large enough area it's not that big of a deal. Life is not a Hollywood movie, a bullet will not send you flying through the air my man. It's only deadly because it delivers it's energy over a very small area and all at once. If body armor spreads the force both over an area and also over time you can survive it just fine. Not saying that's the case here, I don't know. But it very well might be.
@@sardoniclaugh9646 You do realize first and foremost
You don't get anywhere near the full energy back at you right?
The gun it taking a lot of it in every direction before it ever gets to your shoulder
You're spreading a fraction of the opposite reaction into that area, the bullet is doing basically the opposite to the target
I think you're assuming it's about half as capable as it is
This video was a masterpiece. Audio, visual, all of the transitions. Absolutely killed it.
Whoever edits these needs a raise, or some form of cookie.
@@GiantArapaima74 I think thats why they have Charlie. He appreciates the little things. You could pay him with the guts of ballistic labs dummies and hed be like a pig in shit
I am sure the body armor could stop a semi truck but the blunt force is going to be to much
That shock wave on the body when just the 3 plates were there was more than likely fatal. The shock wave would've probably ruptured your internal organs so you certainly would've been in trouble....
13:54 “Awww man these are new Costco pants” Charlie cracks me up 😂
Putting on extra plates to stop a .50 round.
* *scoliosis intensifies* *
or would it correct it?!?!?!
Wear the same amount of plates on your back to compensate. You’d just have compressed discs
@@GarandThumb Ballistic Orthopedics w/ Dr. Garand Thumb?!
#onwardchiropractics
You guys are great!
Charlie is a national treasure please protect him at all costs
yes he may be good with what he is doing, however no one in their right mind would just test that out. unless you are wanting to do so??
If you see Charlie appear right off the bat in a video you know it's going to be an absolute banger haha!
Y’all are such an underrated comedy duo.
"The liquor’s calling the shots now, Randy." made my heart happy to see Lahey!
then quit drinking
Awesome video guys
Can’t be that bad, the lungs are still in the body(even if the last shot heavily ventilated the right side). Now if you used one of those unicorn gov issue 9mm the hill behind the target would have been deleted.
This is the only science I trust anymore. Thank you for your contributions to the community.
I actually wonder about purpose built armor. The United States fielded aircrew armor rated to 12,7x108mm API, for use by helo pilots.
I feel like unified strike face of... what, that has to be like, over an inch of ceramics and like 3/4ths in of backer...
That might well do better.
To community? Its to the world dude
It’s just, such good content. Like how? How do you continue to do this?
explosive bullet really impresive that nice to see that in slow mo
Great video, Charlie killing it with the observations. The slow-mo was stellar!
Yes, please check the pants because there is probably a foot of intestine, a portion of spleen, and a smidge of shit covered liver in there😂
Are we just going to ignore the grooving skeleton at 1:25 ? Really? Dude was rocking out.
he was vibing pretty hard
@@GarandThumb But did he have a "boner?"
@@GarandThumb Was he twerking?
I absolutely love these guys!!!!
1,000,000% best intro yet. I just love the regression. xD
Charlie never ceases to provide a laugh with his added commentary.
I would love to see Charlie run an episode in the future, maybe the MCX Spear when it gets to you due to how unique the ammo and suppressor are, just because I feel like his humor stick would go great with one of the more out-there firearms you could review.
schtick* ☠😭😂
That was Awesome!
Love the intro ...it's original cheezy quirky it's hilarious 😂
You know just about every video shows armor taking hits perpendicularly. One thing years of geeking out over tanks has taught me is that air gaps but especially angled armor significantly aid in protection. I really wonder different rounds look like at various angles. Obviously there’s an angle at which most rounds, even the 7N6 can’t yaw and curve that hard. It would be cool to see at what point rounds are just skipping off, as well as how the angle of personnel body armor affects resistance to rounds.
Aka, scaled down tank armor
Its always perpendicular hits because its probably whats gonna happen if you get shot
@@sigmamale4147 In most situations, sure. Plate towards enemy and all, but that’s not to say you’ll never be attacked from the flank. It’s also the most difficult angle to stop the round at, it’s the standard that plates should be held to.
That is why plates are not flat.
@@stephanb.3342 I mean they’re very slightly curved but that’s mainly to fit the body better. The slight angle of the plates is likely insignificant. To begin with the angle isn’t significant enough to cause any deflection, nor doesn’t is significantly increase the depth of armor due to its angle. In really any scenario that curvature would play no difference. Even at slightly different angles with the ideal plate-towards-enemy posture. It’s only when you start getting into extreme angled shots in the real world that I think rounds will start behaving differently.
The way things go with Charlie I literally lean towards my screen at his intro into each episode. If you can’t vibe with his character you are taking life way to seriously. His delivery is freaking epic
💯
Cool video, I always wanted to know what the Slow Mo guys would be like if they only said the word "YOOO"
Dude…Charlie is a great addition to the videos. F’n hilarious 😂
I really wouldn't want to find out for myself because I probably wouldn't be around shortly after being hit.
Thank-you beat me to it, took the words right out of my mouth 👍
Lol it just delays the inevitable
With any luck it would be quick. There's a point where you wouldn't want to be around to tell the story.
I found Charlie in the comments
Your entrails become out-trails
Would have been cool to see one of those pressure sensor things like on “human weapon” to see what kind of force is hitting the dummy through the plates.
Science!!!
Yeah get one of those pressure sensor stickers mythbusters used to use
Lots
@@jaredwilliams2357 The stickers Mythbusters used were unsuited to even what they were using it for, those shock stickers are basically garbage when you put any material stress through them instead of using them as an approximate pressure measurement
I don't accept this. My people however say this is not right. You don't argues so your agree. Now help or die.
your voice is so damn calming that you could be doing anything and I could still fall asleep to it
I love your videos guys. Specially its so funny how you start the introduction, and Charlie is the best there. Wouldn’t be fun without him
Gotta find some way to protect my lungs being blown out by a nine mil
You guys are so good together, love it.
Charlie is the chaos this channel needs
HAS CALL OF DUTY EVER LIED?!
Dad advice at the end.... Pure Gold!
Until you realize that he is advocating one of two things. Breaking the law by switching to a stock, or begging government to let you put a stock on for an extra $200 and some wasted time.
@@jeoffreylocke3121 Free men don't ask permission.
@@zenkiz33 exactly
@@jeoffreylocke3121 you're missing the point, brother
@@jeoffreylocke3121 exactly. Glad you understood
@9:24 “I have a question…”
Charlie: “once in college but I don’t remember his name.”
This slipped by me the first time I watched this video.
I'm still lost what does he mean? Lol
Some of the best real world scenario training I've seen is from John and the crew over at Active Self Protection! A lot of great lessons to be learned over there!
I would be very interested to see an armor concept revolving around deflecting the round instead of catching it.
8:15 when you make lvl 4 plates that can stop .50 but forgot about the energy transfer
Those slow-mo APIT shots were beautiful Mike. 👏
You are definitely Administrative results. The fake tattoos are pretty cool. That was a slick one you pulled with the hand gestures. I like you’re style
Nice posting. I would like to see an armor piercing round like I have played with. It has a copper jacket to protect the barrel and the penetrator must be carbide. It bore thru 2 inch steel plate with no damage to the bullet.
Honestly, I think Charlie was the star of the show here with his demented sense of humor. The off-the-wall remarks had me howling.
I love charlie. We need a dr.charlie show with garand thumb as the assistant
This was pretty funny and awesome 😂
Best channel in the webs, hands down. Lol
The knowledge, the info, the comedy.. It's an all in one stop.
Charlie is a national treasure and we must protect him at all costs
Great video.
When Charlie called Mike "Dr. Garand Thumb" at the end... I was recently visiting a hospital and they kept talking about "Dr. Granthem", which sounded exactly like "Garand Thumb" the way they said it. I laughed every time.
Garand thumb is the best gun channel but Charlie brings it to another level, he is a national treasure